Does unconditional love actually exist ?

FattestRabbit · 2015-04-27T21:30:03+00:00

Unconditional love definitely exists. I will always love my dog.

alreadyredschool · 2015-04-27T22:17:13+00:00

Does 100% unconditional love actually exist ?

No.

TRPillers say that only men are capable of unconditional love , but I have my doubts.

Idiots say this. People who misunderstand TRP theory or explain it badly.

ThorLives · 2015-04-27T21:57:31+00:00

I don't believe in unconditional love. And by "don't believe", I mean that I don't believe that it exists or that it is healthy. I have heard someone argue once that you can still unconditionally love someone and cut off contact with them (for your own good), which I think is a healthy way to look at it, since it avoids the trap of "unconditionally loving someone" who is harmful to you (say, if they develop a drug problem and they steal and hurt you).

I think that people like the idea of unconditional love because they want to know that someone will always love them. We want to be loved and accepted, and not feel like love are contingent on some service we provide for that person (i.e. a kind of transaction). I think "unconditional love" is something that young people tend to believe is some kind of pure / real / ultimate kind of love. I've heard friends of mine (younger than me) talk about unconditional love like it is some kind of goal that one should strive for. I've also noticed that people closer to my own age tend to agree with my view that unconditional love is not something that is healthy or that we should strive to achieve.

Even though I reject the usefulness of unconditional love, it's still good to be generous in your love towards other people. That avoids the two pitfalls of "loving" someone who is generally harmful to you (a pitfall of unconditional love), and the opposite extreme of turning "love" into a transaction where you're equalizing the give and takes of each individual relationship (which makes the whole thing seem shallow and unstable). It's harmful to keep score in relationships.

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HonestThrowAway212 · 2015-04-27T21:46:02+00:00

Not if both parties are rational. Either the person who is doing the loving must be irrational or the subject is irrational (and thus cannot be faulted for certain behaviour).

I love my dog unconditionally. I can never love a woman unconditionally. I expect that I will love my children unconditionally. Even into adulthood but that is because at that point I will no longer be capable of not loving them and thus irrational.

RareBlur · 2015-04-28T01:25:37+00:00

Only between a parent and child. There are always conditions in relationships ex. Cheating will probably end the relationship.

purple_lock · 2015-04-28T01:34:02+00:00

No. When TRP says that "men love unconditionally" they are intentionally exaggerating.

I do believe that men (on average) have far fewer conditions that must be met for them to love a woman, and that those conditions are generally easier to fulfill.

The women I've met who have very few conditions that aren't unreasonable at all are in the tiny minority, and I have yet to meet a dude who does have any unreasonable conditions. Most women seem to expect quite a bit while offering very little in return...

speed3_freak · 2015-04-28T01:47:37+00:00

It completely depends on the person and the situation. 100% unconditional love would only be able to be proven if you were able to put it through all of the conditions to test it. My mom loves me unconditionally, but would she still love me if I was strung out on crack? Maybe not. Does the fact that I will never be strung out on crack make her love unconditional because the condition that would cause her to no longer love me doesn't exist? The Titanic was an unsinkable ship until it sank.

haircombsnightmare · 2015-04-28T01:59:52+00:00

I think unconditional love for other humans is dangerous. I don't have a kid, so I can't answer myself, but that's the only human relationship in which I've seen unconditional love.

Ultramegasaurus · 2015-04-28T06:37:53+00:00

No. Men have significantly less conditions though.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-04-28T07:15:53+00:00

No. Thanks for playing.

EDIT: Ok, saw the dog stuff. I'll make an exception for dogs. It's just no for human-human relations.

teeay · 2015-04-28T07:22:44+00:00

Unconditional love can exist in the Buddhist sense, a gift of metta to the recipient, who might be someone easy to love, or very hard to love.

But in the romantic sense, no.

GridReXX · 2015-04-28T17:07:43+00:00

I've alluded to this before.

I think unconditional love can exist.

I think unconditional tolerance does not exist.

Pretty sure I still love my ex. Couldn't tolerate his ass. Still love him to some degree.

Pretty sure some parents HATE the way their kids behave, but on some level will still always love and worry about them. They could be a mass murderer, and a mother or father would still on some level care for their child. Even if they were the ones who turned the child into the police.

relationshipdownvote · 2015-04-28T20:48:53+00:00

I think, realistically, in a healthy relationship love is conditional. The relationships where I see less conditions on love seem to be the ones I see where I see the less conditional partner getting walked all over. If your partner continously treats you poorly, you should move on.

kittukatsu · 2015-05-04T15:30:05+00:00

All love is conditional for both genders.

Fuschia19 · 2015-04-27T21:41:35+00:00

yes, a mother loves her child unconditionally

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[deleted] · 2015-04-27T21:32:16+00:00

In order to love unconditionally, you need to be an incredibly selfless person. Most humans are not. It exists, but it is very rare.

Title	Does unconditional love actually exist ?
Author	HappilySingleWoman
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Date	April 27, 2015 9:26 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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