RedPill alternative

gepeg-libre · 2014-03-30T20:02:35+00:00

If 'blue pill thinking' is that women are special Disney fairy tales, then he shouldn't go back. If 'red pill thinking' is that women are Machiavellian hypergamous deceitful animal-children by nature, then he should get a grip.

Yeah dude, being confident and healthy, on average, is going to make you sexier, and being 'respectful' isn't what gets you dates, it just makes you a decent human. This is not rocket science nor is this idea the monopoly of the red pill. Where the red pill diverges from basic 101-level common sense is that it claims that women are inherently and by their very natures controlled by their emotions and hormones, find it difficult to use logic, and are so stupid/deceitful that they won't admit it.

You don't need to believe in ridiculous pseudoscience from the 19th century to get laid and neither does your hypothetical young man. Yeah, putting women on a pedestal and treating them like magical fairy queens isn't going to get you laid. No fucking shit Sherlock, that's creepy as hell, and a basic sense of social awareness should be enough to figure that out. You really don't need to be a member of some fucked-up male-supremacist circle-jerk to understand these things.

juswannabeanony · 2014-03-30T20:25:19+00:00

Literally invisible to vagina.

My first suggestion would be to stop thinking of women as 'vaginas' and start seeing and respecting women as people, not sexual objects.

why he's wrong for seeing the world for what it really is?

RPers aren't seeing the world 'for what it really is' any more than any other fanatic is about a given lifestyle. Fundamentalist Christians see sinners and the unsaved, RPers see betas and cock carousel riders.

In actuality many RPers often prefer to be deceptive rather than upfront about the method behind their behavior, especially towards the people they're trying to have sex with. How do you explain to an average woman that you consider her to be less of a person than you are in a way that would make her want to fuck you?

There's no sales pitch coming from those who believe the red pill is a toxic, misogynistic ideology because there's nothing redeemable about the red pill approach that can't be found elsewhere with all the hateful bullshit removed. Everything you've listed as 'red pill' doesn't have to be. You can get in shape, build self confidence and social skills without all the sexism.

If you want to get laid: be attractive, respectful, and honest. I recommend Paging Dr. Nerdlove as a great sex/romance/social skills resource for the more socially awkward types, especially if you'd consider yourself part of the nerd/geek/gamer demographic.

Whisper · 2014-03-31T00:21:45+00:00

It doesn't make sense to ask bluepillers this question because they do not care about your needs.

They only care about what they want you to not do, and that is act in a way that makes them uncomfortable.

jacks1000 · 2014-03-30T20:48:28+00:00

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pillburt · 2014-03-30T21:22:51+00:00

BP men and women have a natural disdain for your sexual needs. Therefore it makes zero sense to ask them ways in which you can get your sexual needs met. You are only going to be met with gaslighting, anger, vitriol or pure disgust that you want to get laid.

If you don't agree morally with parts of TRP that's fine. Nobody is asking you to sign a bill that stops women from voting, or to make slavery of women legal. It's annoying that you see the truth and there are so many around you that don't want to, but so be it. Keep spinning plates and having a good time.

happyparallel · 2014-03-30T20:46:54+00:00

First I'd have to actually see an instance where Red Pill was responsible for this change.

Red Pill, to me, feels like fundamentalist Christians who pray for something to happen and then go around saying "God helps those who help themselves."

Being confident, working on a killer body, and reading philosophy are not mutually exclusive with viewing women as real people rather than walking vaginas.

[deleted] · 2014-03-30T22:26:35+00:00

What would you tell a hypothetical young man who can't get laid to save his life. He spent high school "doing all the right things" being respectful, nice etc etc. yet he can't get a date to save his life. Literally invisible to vagina.

I would tell him to stop focusing on getting laid and to start focusing on himself.

Then all of a sudden he starts listening to Jay-Z, Pimp-C & most RP music.

Oh never mind, this is just a troll.

jacks1000 · 2014-03-30T20:38:51+00:00

What would you tell a hypothetical young man ...

I would tell him he'll never really swallow "the red pill" until he stops trying to get moral validation from blue pillers.

juswannabeanony · 2014-03-30T22:09:17+00:00

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whatsazipper · 2014-03-30T21:54:21+00:00

Red Pill is not about working out or self-improvement, despite their claims otherwise. Blue Pill doesn't advocate not working out. That's stupid. That's just common sense. They don't get to claim common sense as their own. Red Pill is the other stuff. The sociopathic stuff.

GridReXX · 2014-03-31T11:43:06+00:00

Whys is being respectful and being sexy mutually exclusive in the red pill universe.

Because in the real world most people can be respectful and considerate and sexy and attractive at the same damn time. These people have sex and cuddle times all the time.

MagicGainbow · 2014-03-31T09:52:12+00:00

"he's drowning in pussy", "he's flooding in it"

Every thread like this consists of a loaded question. Red pill working is by no means a verified fact.

2014-03-31T18:24:51+00:00

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mc0079 · 2014-03-31T22:12:17+00:00

Wow...I really don't know what to make of this post, since you basically made up a hypothetical person that neatly fits into your own preconceived notions and desired outcome.

But I'll take a crack at it.

The person you describe in HS is most likely socially awkward and out of shape. He hides his social ineptitude by hiding behind terms like "nice guy" and "friendzone". He most likely lacks the perspective to to look inward and thus blames his troubles on outside forces.

RedPill music? Oh Jesus...Pretty much everyone has heard a jay Z song or two ....It's pretty mainstream...

Ahh....your hypothetical dude goes to the gym! and starts to take care of himself! I don't think anyone disputes that attractive people and/or people who take care of themselves receive more attention. That is not red pill or blue pill.

It should be noted Machiavelli was talking mostly about leadership in terms of a noble ruling class...and many people think he was writing satire...

What you describe as this hypothetical man realizing women are not Disney princess ...is pretty much...very "blue pill" actually..Women = people is a pretty solid "BP" concept. Women are people, not a fantasy object.

I doubt you would have any serious person tell you it's not a good idea to be in shape and take care of yourself, that's not blue or red pill.

You hypothetical dude, basically starts to take care of himself, gets confidence and does better with women? Yeah....that's not red pill or blue pill...that's some solid advice for anyone.

Title	RedPill alternative
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Date	March 30, 2014 7:10 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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