Whether you want one, or want to avoid them, it's always good to know, right? Some of them are players, some of them actually do hate women, others are husband material, but here are some indicators based on lurking and a few IRL guys:

  • He lifts weights or otherwise actively maintains his fitness (could be martial arts, calisthenics, etc.).

  • His tinder bio is short (ASL, maybe a few hobbies in one word), and his pics look great and genuine. That spontaneous shirtless pic with a ball in the park? Could be made by a drone...

  • If you are online dating, he uses your name, quickly asks for a meet and then stops replying except a confirmation on d-day. Their reasoning: they already have a date, saying more just risks messing things up. And it comes across less needy.

  • He never DEERs, always DAREs ( https://trpbackup.com/posts/2 )

  • He calls you out on your BS.

  • He uses dread game. This could be overt and ridiculous (bragging about other women), or subtle (putting you in a position where you notice other women want him).

  • He's hot and cold, teases and compliments, unpredictable, confident in dealing with you. Doesn't seem to feel lucky or have that can't-stop-grinning foolish in-love look. Doesn't give or buy you stuff.

  • He may (pretend to) be very non-judgmental about sluts to get you to open up and find out your past, if he is potentially interested in upgrading you.

- Never shows weakness (vulnerability). They reason it kills attraction.

  • Gets you in bed quickly. If you have doubts at the very last moment, he will not show disappointment, but agree with you and make ready to leave. Their reasoning: either you beg him to stay, or you don't want him badly enough anyway.

  • Tests your compliance. Doesn't comply, but may throw you a bone now and then.

  • A dead give-away for a noob RP man (or MGTOW) would be ranting about divorce laws, but most are probably a little smarter than that (I know one though... lol). They may be genuine, or they may tell you whatever you want to hear. They may tell you interesting-sounding nonsense just to ensure you spend time hamstering over them.

Anything I got wrong or forgot?