9-10s are for recreational use only

BlocknGhost · 2023-09-29T22:13:18+00:00

Pros to getting with 9s and 10s:

Social proof to get with more 9s and 10s
Massive confidence boost
Massive social status boost

Cons:

If you catch feels, they will ruin your life
TONS of exes and orbiters waiting in the rafters to swoop in
Dating them is expensive in terms of time, money, and emotional tax

The key is to remain detached and not to see them too often. If you’re the fun hookup guy for them and don’t come on too strong, it’s a great spot to be in. If you’re giving off boyfriend vibes, you’ll end up losing time, money and sanity before they branch over to the next shiny object.

Suspicious-Watch9681 · 2023-09-29T13:46:47+00:00

Most women i know who were very attractive have way higher body count than normal women, i agree with this

JF803 · 2023-09-30T02:09:06+00:00

Everybody wants a 10 til you live with one and you see how vapid, boring, and high maintenance their whole existence is. Most I’ve spent time with are the most impractical people you’ll come across. Sleep til noon. Wake up bitchy and hungry. Take two hours to get ready, get hangry they haven’t eaten yet. Refuse any solution to the problem at hand and just share their misery with you. Most I’ve spent time with are minor alcoholics and low sex drive/boring in bed and have a disproportionate amount of IBS for some reason - anecdotal but every really exceptionally hot girl I know and her hot friends deal with it. Idk gimme a small town 7 with a fat ass and high sex drive over a big city 9 for a relationship all day everyday

Tousen71 · 2023-09-29T17:15:28+00:00

Love these kinds of posts. 9s are a lot of work. You’re going to get tried by other men constantly and if you’re life/game isn’t EXTREMELY tight hypergamy will eventually sway your girl if you ever have problems. From experience it’s VERY difficult to check a 9 without dumping her. You need to be ready to eject at any time and even then they may just move to a new option that afternoon.

10s don’t exist because no girl is everyone’s type.

samsmith67 · 2023-09-29T16:03:49+00:00

I do know a bartender that I would consider an 8. I've observed and been told by an ex of hers that she cheats on any boyfriend she's with.

horsestud6969 · 2023-09-30T02:18:07+00:00

This post has mental stability written all over it. I need to get my 6 pack figured out pronto so a 9/10 girl can ruin my life. Seriously thought I've have plenty of 7s and below ruin my life too, so at least you have a trophy status symbol with a 9

mister_k1 · 2023-09-29T12:57:36+00:00

good thing is the WALL don't care if you are a 5 or a 9-10

runningwily · 2023-09-29T22:41:39+00:00

I struggle with this. 9-10s are not worth the effort and distraction. Problem is once you get a taste it's hard to go back down to less attractive girls

Strawberries_n_Chill · 2023-09-29T14:54:03+00:00

A Miami 10 is an international 6-7. Those saline injected petri dishes ain't shit.

TheZimboKing · 2023-09-29T16:21:32+00:00

~~9-10~~ Women are for recreational use only.

TRPSenpai · 2023-10-01T04:54:57+00:00

I've had couple of 8's and 9's. Yup. This is more or less the truth-- hell, 7-8's are sometimes worse-- because 9 and 10's are so hot they're borderline unapproachable.

My friend from our College friend group married and had kids with someone way below his SMV. We were kind of baffled-- and amused at the time. 8 years later, they're happy and she still worships the ground he walks on. She knows she couldn't do better.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2023-10-01T12:03:47+00:00

Guys interested in this topic will find this link informative.

Uncle Vasya’s Guide On Dating Models

-You Landed a 10. Here’s how to keep her in line.

bowhunter6 · 2023-09-29T14:08:34+00:00

Your last sentence says it all and is 100% the truth. You have to be significantly above her in value to even have a hope of maintaining something long term and even remotely faithful, if that's what you're aiming for.

Thanks for the post, man.

Saborizado · 2023-09-29T13:12:50+00:00

I do not agree with this. The quality of women based on their beauty is similar to the quality of people based on social hierarchy. Those at the top are not necessarily more special than those you meet in the middle or at the bottom and those you meet at the bottom or in the middle do not necessarily have greater moral virtue than those you meet at the top.

Besides, you're talking about a specific niche such as social media models and influencers, who are widely known to have a personality based on external validation. But most beautiful women are not models or influencers.

As an anecdotal experience I can tell you that I am from Latin America but I live in Dubai, which is probably the city with the highest concentration of promiscuous women in the world, but at the same time there are many high value women who are mainly immigrants from Eastern European countries and other conservative societies, and I certainly have not found a direct correlation between beauty and women's behavior.

In this case I don't think it is worth making such sweeping generalizations.

PFD_2 · 2023-09-30T07:35:37+00:00

Disclaimer: this really applies to 9s and 10s who KNOW they’re a 9 or a 10. Its one thing to be one, its another to know you’re one and think so. Ultimate headache

PuppyPulverizer · 2023-09-30T13:54:26+00:00

You’re basing this off of Miami though. While it’s rare I’ve certainly met 8s and 9s in states all over the country who know their attractiveness but don’t act that way. Women are a product of their environment and what they can get away with they will do. It’s the access to the planes, boats, clubs, and mansions that do that to them. I’ve flown private, I’ve had the tables in Liv, I go boating on a nice boat every weekend, and all it attracts are Miami 9s. I go to other states and the fact I had done that wasn’t a selling point for other hot girls. Not just Miami but all of south Florida actually. I’m in Jupiter and the the only difference is if you’re on the opposite end of the spectrum “bad boy” the hot girls with super rich dads will totally hop on it.

Soggy_Head_4889 · 2023-09-29T18:35:21+00:00

I mean this just sounds like Miami or LA.

Tzar_93 · 2023-09-29T19:17:59+00:00

I think rating scales are bullshit.

If a girl a 9-10 looks wise but has barely any intelligence or anything else to offer then she’s not an 9-10 to me because she’s an airhead. She will only ever be capped at a 7.5 max to me.

Since a young age, most 9-10s would have experienced many offers from all types of men just because they look good. So they won’t feel the need to have anything else to offer.

Literally the OP has given a girl a ranking of 9-10 just based off her looks which is crazy to me.

I hate ranking girls as 9-10s cause it gives them unnecessary praise

Stop putting girls on pedestals.

Legitimate-Luck-9503 · 2023-10-02T15:44:20+00:00

I can tell this guy is telling the truth about who he is and his experience, what hes saying about 9s + is 100% true

Dry_Satisfaction_623 · 2023-10-07T00:24:21+00:00

I just moved to Miami a few months ago and I'm finding this out too. If I see a hot girl on a dating app with pictures on a yacht, I just swipe left.

It's weird though. I've lived all over the country and Miami is, by far, the easiest place for me to get dates with 7s and 8s. Like literally 100 times easier. It's dating on easy mode here. Maybe because there are so many 9s and 10s that are getting most of the attention? I absolutely hate the Miami lifestyle, but I can't go back to my old life of putting in tons of efforts to try to get dates with ungrateful 7s who usually flake before the first date anyway.

AnonTheGreat01 · 2023-09-30T10:36:03+00:00

I'm pretty curious, u/Elysium____

Can a girl per your definition only be a 9-10 if she's a model/influencer or something along those lines? Cloud in general?

Because that would explain your experience to me. I do not believe on the other hand that the best looking women all have triple digit notches, BPD and other characteristics you mention.

What I'm saying is, can the prettiest girls with a 'regular' job never be more than an 8 on your scale?

Which I can understand if your line of thinking is 'Since everybody follows the path of least resistance, the most beautiful women will earn money with their looks, therefore anyone who doesn't make money with their looks can't be an 9-10'.

If you’re with a 9 or a 10 in her mind you’re always competing with her memories of all those men and anytime you bore her or piss her off, she knows that if she walks out the door, she could find another guy of that Caliber in an hour

This is an interesting point that I don't recall ever being delved deep into here. All girls do this comparing. All girls want someone with higher SMV than them. However, if a 9 or a 10 is comparing you to her previous partners, all of whom were 10s, there's no way to outperform these men because they're all at the pinnacle. So in other words, if a woman has access to the absolute top of the social hierarchy, as a man you lose the ability to outperform your competitors.

I do think this is a non-issue for every guy though, except the vain ones who want a woman with the best of the best looks wise as an ego/status boost instead of settling with what is a sufficient level of beauty to spark the necessary amount of sexual attraction. If it's the former, I think you deserve what's coming.

The woman has to feel like she hit an absolute walk off homer getting you, if she doesn’t feel that way, you will never have lasting peace in a relationship.

It's been my view for quite some time that it's best to eventually settle down with a girl who has maybe a 7/10 face but 10/10 body and other good characteristics. Both because a lot of men sleep on that type of woman, but also because it's easier to maintain your edge relative to her.

surethingjanet · 2023-09-29T17:49:50+00:00

Another thing to consider is 9+ model tier girls not using social media are complete unicorns. Good luck finding those.

Personally cannot picture myself ever bonding with a woman using social media for anything more than sharing the meals she cooks for me.

Efficient-Ad2392 · 2023-10-06T08:23:20+00:00

As someone who got red-pilled by his 9-10 wife, I wish this was written much much earlier

Malakyas_ · 2023-09-30T20:51:59+00:00

I know it's stupid to look for exceptions.

But I would like to be with a 9 a 10, who is smart, like you can actually talk about something.
Maybe it exist, maybe it does not. Don't have to be marriage, but it would be good. Max I had was an 8.

people are starting to look more at me, I'm also seeing more IOI than before, it's interesting to notice it.

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-10-13T05:07:37+00:00

Most hot women aren't influencers or IG models or heavily engage in degeneracy. Also, statistically, a very desirable woman will probably sleep around less, just because she can more easily lock down a desirable guy than a less desirable woman, so she won't have to jump from situationship to situationship all the time. I think the "9s and 10s are for recreational use only" is a huge cope. A woman's character has little to do with her beauty. Beauty provides more options and opportunity obviously, but genetics and early life experiences are what will shape her character, behavior and personality. And even if it's just a matter of options and opportunity, a woman who is a 7 can easily sleep with a very desirable man just as easy as a woman who is a 9 if she makes it easy for him, and she is far more likely to not be able to lock him down, thus continue going from situationship to situationship increasing her body count and acculumating baggage.

EtemAll · 2023-09-30T00:31:14+00:00

Everyone is coping super hard in this sub lmao. It really depends on the 9-10’s background, family, and friends. There are plenty of bombshells that want to be wifed up and start a family immediately. Just not with you. They know their worth. They actually are usually the best women I find, it definitely depends on how their own interests align but I find they cheat less because they’re comfortable and confident and don’t need validation, if they cheat it’s probably cause you went for a whore or you suck, but if you are the chad you say you are you can find plenty of 10s that don’t seek that lifestyle. Based on your Reddit profile of 8 years and constantly in the seduction subreddit since your post about being divorced I assume you’re bitter about a bad divorce with a hottie and you can never get back to it.

ElectricObsessed · 2023-11-20T01:16:33+00:00

You generalize too much. I have met 5s and 6s who were sluts, and I have met 8s and 9s who were prudes, it's not all black and white. The thing that is common though is that the more attractive you are, the higher the quantity of women you can attract, which means you're more likely to attract the women you like instead of having to choose between accepting what you can get and getting nothing at all.

As a tall man with a handsome face I basically have access to long term relationships with average looking women. Sometimes some better looking ones show interest but for the most part, the ones who like me tend to look very average and not stunning.

If you're below average in looks and have a low income job, you'll be an incel or in a relationship with an obese woman. In the worst case, she might already have a kid. This is where most of the college dropouts who didn't even go into the trades either usually are.

If you have a good looking face and have muscles, you can hookup with lots of beautiful women. But if you don't have a good income, the beautiful women will only want you for sex. This is what is commonly defined as a Chad. It is not something you are born with, but something you have to work hard to get. I met even short guys who were in that spot. Some guys need a surgery to fix a major deformity to get there though.

If you have a high income job (think 80k or more per year, but it depends on the city you're in), then no matter how you look like, you'll have many options but it will always be women who want to be in a long term relationship with you, and they will want to offer you starfish boring low effort sex since all they care about is the money and not you as a person. Most men in the mgtow community fit into that category, they were wealthy but not very good looking so they got used for their money. If they didn't have money though, they would be incels or with ugly women. In the case where there is physical attraction, there is more sex and a lower chance of divorce. That's basically where my parents are at. I mean the income gap between them is huge (my dad makes like 3.5 times her income, and she's in the top 1% of incomes in my city) but they are physically and romantically attracted to each other so it's not a toxic relationship.

roxannastr97 · 2023-09-30T11:20:31+00:00

You pointed out something about them leaving you for certain reasons. Isn't that hypergamy? You're afraid that a woman who's just as good looking or better can get better treatment from another guy? I think it's fair. You just seem to want an uglier looking girl so you can get away with more and treat her less than what she deserves because she feels so lucky to be with a "Chad".. Hypergamy exists to push men to do and be better, it's for a reason in nature and human society.

sapphiredawn · 2023-09-30T17:32:21+00:00

I’m a curious lurker. What about an 8 or 9 that has also been red-pilled? Or has substance and intelligence and emotional depth and doesn’t sleep around?

The ladies over at the women of redpill sub talk about how ridiculous it is to use dread as a woman. Men know that beautiful women can always get male attention; reminding him of this is stupid and doesn’t add value to the relationship by making him question your loyalty. Interestingly enough, dread for women is about gratitude. It’s about making him feel ridiculously lucky that you are in his life. Copious enthusiastic blowjobs, (learn to love this, ladies, and he’ll always feel lucky) consistently showing up emotionally, mentally, and spiritually in any way he might need.

My take on your post isn’t necessarily that 9+ is recreational only, but rather, systemically, on a sociological level, we have a disturbing problem wherein women in particular have internalized that beauty and sex are the only valuable things they can offer a man, and her whole personality becomes vapid, superficial, boring or worse. Destructive. Because deep down these women will always understand that they are acting in ways that are hostile to creating flourishing life. And for the feminine to live that way for any length of time it is cancerous.

I’m interested in this topic because I want to grow and become a better first mate to my future captain. It scares me a bit to think being beautiful could be a deterrent. :/

Maybe it is a unicorn pursuit, but I’d say that the best women are ones who grew up with trauma and/or hardships; this contains the capacity to build character. It’s about the tremendous wisdom that comes with hard fought battles. Like the cliche, fabled hot chick who loses her beauty and suddenly finds she needs to build an entire personality/identity, there’s an opposite side of the coin. There is the ugly duckling turned swan who grew up with intimacy issues and then did psychoanalysis to heal that shit. Now, she doesn’t want to hide her beauty anymore and she’s looking for her soul mate. If you’re a woman: be that girl. If you’re a man: date that girl.

RadioPimp · 2023-09-30T17:36:19+00:00

I’ll just leave this here and no, it’s not a rick roll. Lol.

https://youtu.be/fxUY-99TPRY?si=L9pbNtctkSRxRA6K

Malakyas_ · 2023-09-30T20:39:25+00:00

what's the tip to banging 9-10 in miami ?

BikesLOVER · 2023-10-01T10:18:20+00:00

Damn you banged many 9-10s. OP teach me your way of craft.

caveman_lol · 2023-10-22T19:41:32+00:00

I'm a 10/10 and I'm not for recreational use mr chad

Sad_Farm · 2023-11-02T01:24:23+00:00

I feel like this only applies to 9-10s who rely solely on their looks. 9-10s who were raised to develop actual personalities tend to have lower bodies imo because they can pick whoever and don’t need as much external validation because all their worth doesn’t lie in their looks.

Title	9-10s are for recreational use only
Author	Elysium____
Upvotes	441
Comments	121
Date	September 29, 2023 12:26 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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