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Five years ago I was about to kill myself..

October 20, 2021
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Five years ago I was searching the internet for a painless method to end my life. Before I do that, I just wanted to know "why?". What crime I did or what I am doing wrong to deserve such life.

Why girls can't see me as a human who can have sexual needs, why they behave differently around me and completely different around every other guy. Why my own friends turned against me and made fun of me instead of defending from the guy who bullied and humiliated me. Why I am judged harshly, why I am made fun of, why people don't respect me even when I sacrifice my own well-being for them.

Another girl had told me that she can only see me as a friend, and I should keep in touch with her. I did whatever she said. She told that she don't like men who are want relationship to have sex, she told she like compliments, she told she likes the attention I give. I did everything she said, why she left me for her ex who do the opposite of all that. It don't make any sense.

I want answers before I kill myself. I went to relationships sub, told them my situation. Some woman tell me to not date for at least 10 years and I need to work on myself before I even think about dating. Why I have to wait when everyone else is enjoying their youth, I am now more frustrated to know the answers.

I am tired of hearing women, they speak the same. The same pattern. It's not the few rejections and miserable social life that is making me kill myself, it's the pattern. Seeing that the pattern would continue no matter what I do. It's seeing that things would be the same and never change made be think that there is no point in continuing the misery.

Had a father whom I once told as a kid that some kids outside had beaten me up, and I need his help to take revenge from them. I saw fear in my father's eyes, he stepped back. And after few moments of thinking he started beating me saying that I must had something wrong to them. He beat his son who came home covered in bruises who asked his help because the other kids were outnumbered. The beaten kid needed a father figure who can protect him, but instead he got a realization that he don't have a father and he is all alone in this world. Long story short I never had a masculine role model to guide me.

I searched for answers on subs that were made by men for men. I think they were related to hobbies and activities men can do alone or develop some skill. I have no recollection that how I landed on the sidebar of this sub.

All the answers were there, and that were not something I liked. They were bitter, they were cold. Every ounce of my existence want to reject them. My whole worldview was shattering right in front of me. I am furious. I've been lied my whole life. I am angry towards women, I am angry towards the people whom I considered friends. I am angry towards the people who never told me that if I made some improvements I could change outcomes. I used to be angry towards the people who treat me badly. And now Im even more angry at the people who told me Im nice and perfect and every other guy should be like me. They reinforced my personality that lead me towards killing myself.

In a way I killed myself. People are telling me that I used to be good. They can't fathom that not only I'm doing good but eventually I will be doing better than me. They are insecure because of me. Those people are guilting me. And Im enjoying them seeing getting disappointed. The new people in life respects me, they think I've always been like that. I respect myself, and people respect me.

Im lifting, giving my best. Other guys come to the gym to socialize. I come to sculpt my body. Im laser focused. I have purpose. I know the things i've been denied my whole life. Other people don't have this privilege. Even though I am smaller than everyone, even though outside gym no one else could tell I lift. I am proud of my hard work. In my mind I'm big, i'm strong, compared to my past self I'm infinitely better. It doesn't matter if others don't know, but I know that and it's enough.

I get my first kiss, my first girlfriend. For the first time in my life a girl is interested in me and i'm not chasing. Finally my existence feel validated, finally things are working for me and not against me.

Five years have been passed. TRP have not given some magical formula to improve life, in fact it made me realize I have to work harder than others to just have things in life that an average guy have. The only thing it gave me is the hope that you can change things.

Just like the people who had been in this sub for years, I now lurk sometimes once in a month or two. Its the second time here i've seen a post from a same guy doing mastubratory rationalization that which is better, to fuck multiple women or one women many times.

Before I become this old man who says that back in my time TRP had father figures and men genuinely wanted to help each other because of the pain they went through. I decided to retire from TRP instead. I have gained whatever my soul needed and the path forward is all by myself. I have to know my destiny and dictate my life all by myself.

One day maybe I too save a lost soul who have lost all hope. One day may I become hope for others

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Title Five years ago I was about to kill myself..
Author atifhere
Upvotes 438
Comments 72
Date October 20, 2021 6:17 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Adeus_Ayrton 104 points105 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I consider this a field report. Maybe even much more meaningful than the ones we're used to seeing over here.

[–]throwabcdaway3 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same. Field reports were a light of inspiration in a darkness of dumb rationalizations and "essays" /s.

@ OP. Thank you for it

[–]atlas794 60 points61 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

I died a long time ago. When my ex wife cheated on me with my best friend. Now I’m indifferent to the world. Do I want love and affection? Yes. Do I need it? No! I focus on myself and my personal growth. I have a career. I have a house and hobbies and I have my dogs. I love them like the children I never had. But am I happy? Yes in a simple way. I come home. I do what I want to do and when I am horny I call up a fwb who I treat well and help but she knows where I stand in the world. A solitude man. I love living alone. I don’t need the shackles of a women anymore. I don’t need societies ideas of what I am. I see a pretty women in the street. Let her be her but she has no sway over me. I got what I need and I’m happy. Be happy bro. Love life for you and only you. The rest will come.

[–]Timely_Ad_2311 18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Man. What a beautiful post.

I was with my ex for 2 years and she broke me. I out her first instead of me and I had to end it

But your ex wife cheating in you with your one of your niggas ? Thats harsh man

You strong as fuck though. It makes my story sound like I'm bitching lol.

[–]atlas794 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah bro. We all experience things differently. Trauma isn’t universal. Some people can handle things others couldn’t dream of.

[–]Timely_Ad_2311 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good point.

Its been a year and ans some change now since I ended with my ex. No lie. I loved her. But I couldn't save her. Had to learn the hard way

I have to admit. Sometimes it still bothers me. Like, I did everything I could and she just didn't give a fuck/she had her own issues

Months after the break up she found another guy and got pregnant. My family told me. And asked if it bothered me. I said I didn't care.

But to keep it real. It bothered me a bit. Because we talked about kids. But hey ...

Anyways. Iv been doing okay. I posted on here not too long ago got some great advice from guys on here.

I just saw your post. It reminded me to keep going. Thanks dude

[–]atlas794 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your stronger then you know. Focus on yourself and someday she won’t seem like much of a thing in your past.

[–]DoubleConversation4 189 points190 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

When society fails to recognize the inherent differences between men and women and treat everyone like women, and therefore not only give women the means to exercise their femininity, but also push them on men, men inevitably end up depressed.

There are people out there who claim that TRP is toxic for teaching men how to 'manipulate' women, when it actually took the gun out of the mouths of hundreds of men, if not thousands, by teaching them how to improve and become more attractive, act more like a man and connect further with their nature. The result is a happy life when implemented correctly. You had a coward father who didn't teach you what was right and wrong, so you created a better one for yourself. Good job man.

[–]1319Skew 104 points105 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Men teaching other men how to be successful in life through hard work = TOXIC masculinity.

Women teaching other women how to manipulate, use the victim card, be promiscuous = Empowerment.

It's why we've got so many people who are high fiving each other for being cucks, androgyny is being looked into as favorably, INCELs are a thing, and we get lovely commercials like this.

Remember fellas, we're quarantined because we provide dangerous information and corrupt impressionable minds. Meanwhile this is what we're striving for to be tolerated, women are still victims, and our armed forces are more combat ready inclusive and diverse then ever before.

OP: Keep improving. If you have a son. Teach him how to be a man and if you have daughter make sure she's someone who is proud of herself when she's old and wise. If you don't have children then live a beautiful masculine life.

Best of luck.

[–]PimPedOutGeese 26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Masculinity is under attack… men are under attack. We’ve. Been under attack for quite some time and it’s getting worse and worse.

Interestingly enough the same men that are under attack are the ones asking for it. OnlyFan subscribers. Men dressing up as women. You got these extremely thirsty chumps buying that girl a fucking house… and then she’s back asking for more money and they will give it to her. It’s like men don’t want their masculinity back.

How do you combat feminism and mainstream widespread cuckolding of men when the men decide to engage with the system?

You can’t. You don’t.

You check out. Watch for your own. And make sure your bloodline isn’t corrupted with such nonsense.

[–]SavorThePill 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The best we can do, and it’s been said on TRP for years, is to “enjoy the collapse.”

It will only get worse. Male compliance in this radioactive environment will only lead to stranger, more perverse outcomes.

This is why TRP still exists—whether we’re in a golden age or a dark age, the principles contained largely in the sidebar are good and the best things for a man to do.

(I now maintain faith is another important facet of life for a man too...long story short, life is better for it)

[–]zino193 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Good on you man.

What do you think was missing from your mindset before TRP?

Because, there's a lot of manlets here, that have taken the pill, and still think they deserve to be fucked. They still think that just by existing as a human with sexual needs, society - women, have the duty to relieve them. They still think that sex must be equally distributed among the male population... Any chocce and preference(that excludes them obv) makes sex unfair and a personal insult.

[–]atifhere[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

every organism is determined to get the maximum outcome in terms of survival and reproduction with minimum energy expenditure.

I can understand their frustration. But the question is where does their rant and hopelessness is leading them. Is it leading them to their desired outcome? Is it increasing their well being? if the answer is no, then they need to break the pattern

[–]TheRedPillRipper 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

maximum outcome

For minimum input. Bet you prior to TRP you’d never have thought to incorporate heavy lifting into your daily routine. Most men too would put it in The Too-hard Basket; as opposed to working hard to establish solid habits. Similar to Stoicism, TRP teaches us to embrace adversity; and smile in it’s face. Great post!

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]youareshandy 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You had a coward father who didn't teach you what was right and wrong, so you created a better one for yourself.

Can someone provide an explanation/opinion on the psychology of the father in the reported situation?

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[–]youareshandy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this insightful response

[–]izzyinjurious 36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I felt this. Sick man congrats. Keep moving forward my dude.

[–]yaboyebeatz 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unplugging saved this man’s life. GOOD FUCKING JOB BRO! Don’t stop for anyone, including yourself.

[–]The-Wizard-of-Oz- 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Another girl had told me that she can only see me as a friend, and I should keep in touch with her. I did whatever she said. She told that she don't like men who are want relationship to have sex, she told she like compliments, she told she likes the attention I give. I did everything she said, why she left me for her ex who do the opposite of all that.

A common theme before one's entry to the manosphere.

A catalyst, in fact, if you may call it that.

[–]V1vil 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post. Every guy that is depressed because of his lack of success with girls should read this. Things can get better but it takes a lot of work and you need to swallow some bitter facts that you were lied to.

[–]red_blood_cells 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post.

There is a quote in Fight Club (great red pill movie by the way, Edward Norton playing the blue pill, Brad Pitt being the red pill) that says "self improvement is masturbation. now self destruction [ is the answer]"

TRP is about killing the old you. The old beliefs. The old habits. The old mindsets. It seems you have done that, great job

[–]TheOffice_Account 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

God, agree with everything you said. It is truly freeing to realize that you are alone in this world.

mastubratory rationalization that which is better, to fuck multiple women or one women many times.

Fuck me, so true, lmao. Keyboard TRPers who need to get under the barbell stat. For physical problems, the most common solution is be stronger!

But that same advice is true for most other life problems too. Be stronger!

[–]theomniscience24 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what I love seeing when opening this sub every couple months. I owe TRP too much. It saddens me that I never found out how to red pill a fellow man in need, and I failed everytime I tried and pushed them the other way. It's hard to admit that men have to find their own way, and you can't do anything to help them. Fuck reddit for the hoops its forces us to go through to find this gem.

[–]DevilishRogue 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im lifting, giving my best. Other guys come to the gym to socialize. I come to sculpt my body. Im laser focused. I have purpose. I know the things i've been denied my whole life. Other people don't have this privilege. Even though I am smaller than everyone, even though outside gym no one else could tell I lift. I am proud of my hard work. In my mind I'm big, i'm strong, compared to my past self I'm infinitely better. It doesn't matter if others don't know, but I know that and it's enough.

You're a motherfucking hero.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool. Looks like you made the same or similar post and it was removed. This is more of a rant post than anything. Glad you improved your life. Adios.

[–]velvetunderground111 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had great success with women in my 20's, but I realize how hard it is. For me the harder part is realizing that my heyday of dating and mating with 18-24 year old women is over with. Not really that into women my age, and not wanting to date a girl with a kid. Pretty much got into MGTOW in my late 30's and said "fuck it". Dated a 29 year old girl last year and it ended in disaster...but wasn't that great to begin with. The real magic is when you are a kid, and this is why I feel so bad for young guys in their 20's who aren't doing well in this modern online dating cesspool. Best of luck.

[–]bludkraze 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beautiful post. You should be proud of yourself and keep up the good work.

Dont let any negative comments in here move you even one millimeter away from your path!

[–]AlienFix 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

why are women so important to you?

[–]DoubleConversation4 35 points36 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Being bad with women is never a problem in and of itself, but it's the symptom of a bigger problem. It is not that women are actually important for men and we need them to be happy, but it is that women are the quality control department of nature. They act almost like a litmus test in every situation they're put into: as an individual, when your life is going bad, you can't get laid because women are disgusted by weak men; as a collective, when your society is taking wrong decisions, the women are depressed, they act like men and are promiscuous. They're the symptoms, never the actual disease. They don't really have any real power over the situation, they're beings of emotion and that ends there.

[–]AlienFix 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes thats why we are here on the red pill. Now if this kid keeps putting so much importance on women he is going to get lost in life, he needs to find himself, and the acceptance of himself. Woman are unimportant in this equation, the red pill is meant to liberate you and understand that.

[–]atifhere[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are absolutely right. And Im determined to start my journey, find my destiny, and walk towards it till i die. I am leaving everything behind and it includes TRP and pursuing women.

But its not an advice I would give to everyone. I say first take it all out from your system. Taste everything you had been denied and let you yourself be the judge if it was worth pursuing, if it was worth giving so much importance.

Many TRP veterans give advice to newbies that pursuing women is not worth it or just work on yourself, women would come. They come to this realization only after they've done all that themselves and want others to learn from it.

But this is a phase a man should not skip, because they cant tell if they are just coping or actually so determined about destiny.

For me getting women's love. Them letting me love them. Making love with them. Are one of my most profound and happiest experiences. My brain is wired to find them attractive. I can feel the rush of serotonin. I enjoy every bit of it and people would try to make you feel guilty about it. But I decide it for myself

TRP made me realize that my wellbeing is important and only I have to take care of it. There would be no one to save me. No friend. And no girl who will be your mother figure. Your well being is your own responsibility. And yes, women are part of it, not the whole equation. And one should let their own experiences, failures, and success determine that equation

[–]alikebabay 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes veterans sometimes are hard to understand for a new guys. He might have shit tonnes of lays, become desensitized, have confidence and plates at his disposal. But that all doesn't fit into one sentence: sex is not important. Ofcourse it is not important if you get it like water.

[–]pappo4ever 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

women are the quality control department of nature.

This is a very insightful quote. There's a reason most CEOs don't get promoted if they aren't married. Women are great at detecting weak and bad men. That's why you know Elon Musk is not that great of a dude as he cannot keep a girl even being the richest man in the world.

I'm 40 and single and every single person I know suspects there is something wrong with me or I'm gay, and this is becoming a problem in professional life.

[–]1New_Guard 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm in your same age bracket and am delighted to be single. I don't know of anyone who has sneaking suspicions about me. Seems to me maybe your being single isn't the issue, but perhaps feeling bad about yourself for being single is making people feel uncomfortable for you.

[–]1SeasonedRP 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lots of CEOs aren't married. It isn't like the 50s.

[–]M133A 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

well, am not going to bring you down. But when I was a kid, I was fat and had acne. and many people bully me...but for me, I look at things both ways and the harsh reality hit me...maybe, I I the problem and people only bully people when there's something wrong. so I started exercising, I I the insanity workout when it first came out. my physique improve and later I started a skin health routine. before I knew it, I stand up to my bullies and beat them up. u need to see things and look into self development. that's my real take!!!

[–]Sharmanix 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

why people don't respect me even when I sacrifice my own well-being for them.

Right there at the end of your second paragraph, you summed up your issue there in totality. One cannot have respect without self-respect, much like love or money or SMV, you cannot have any of those things if you do not have it for oneself.

I've come to realise that this sub has entered its decline, I still come here for my daily prescription but I've found Youtubers who represent this ideology better and actually show to you that they are living it, rather than just having a blank faceless wall of text written with no idea if the author is actually putting this into practice.

https://www.youtube.com/c/Hamza97/videos Hamza Ahmed
https://www.youtube.com/c/1STMAN 1st Man

These are some of the best YouTubers at the moment IMO who are giving out the red-hot pill daily and have been instrumental on my journey as well. Do you guys have any other channels who inspire you?

Still well done man, I relate to your story and thank you for sharing your experience strength and hope.

[–]Kurokaffe 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am glad TRP helped you and I agree TRP has a lot going for it.

But I hope you try to tackle why you feel so hard that you need external validation. Of course we are social beings and we all crave that external validation, but you seem to place all your worth around it. Until you try not to place so much of your worth around how others see you, TRP is just a bandaid.

[–]erusch18 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great story, I’m glad that you did not give up and that led you to find a lane to improve yourself that you are comfortable with! Keep up the good work!

[–]GosuTomTom 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad you're still with us Bro !

[–]Dplayerx 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

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You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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