Fuck this place

SkorchZang · 2015-02-01T15:06:33+00:00

Cypher, is that you, mate?

It's a fantastic post, someone was asking a few days back what the best real argument against TRP was. This is it.

Eating that rebel gruel is gruelling. "Fuck that, give me the juicy perfectly done steak, the woman in red sucking my dick, and make it so I remember nothing, and I mean NOTHING, about this Matrix shit."

BrunoOh · 2015-02-01T13:31:23+00:00

The red pill destroys the magic. That cannot be undone. But you can get something better in the long term - understanding.

That I know the mechanics behind how a droplet of water fractures light, makes a rainbow more beautiful, not less.

When I gaze up at the night sky I know that the stars aren't pinpricks on the raiment of heaven but are suns like our own billions of leagues distant with possibly civilizations just like ours orbiting them. That makes me more amazed, not less.

That I know my life is finite gives me the strength to make the most out of it. It does not make me depressed.

When your girlfriend greets you with those giddy fuck-me-eyes, remember you're an imperfect being just like she is, and that makes it all the better.

That said, knowing TRP can make a man want to have nothing to do with women anymore, and I can't blame them.

cocaine_face · 2015-02-01T14:00:11+00:00

I feel bad for men who took the pill rougher than I did. I had two years of PUA before I found out about the Redpill. Admittedly I dated a girl and lost her and it hurt me during that timeframe, so I guess I did my suffering a different way.

That being said, once you let go of the bitterness and sadness that you have right now, you will be in a position to better go after what you want in life. You will sense the power of this place.

The biggest Redpill in life is that you will die, and sooner than you want to, and everyone technically knows that, but viscerally accepting it is harder. Once you've done that - this subreddit doesn't bother you nearly as much. It's not nearly as harsh as that truth.

netgrey · 2015-02-01T13:56:58+00:00

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.

foomfoomfoom · 2015-02-01T15:16:38+00:00

A couple of weeks ago, a friend and I were talking about the times when we were young and our families would all get together on the holidays. We lamented that since then, our cousins have all got jobs all over the country, and now our aunts and uncles are grandmas and grandpas, and so now the"old gang" doesn't get together any more. New families have been formed, and now everyone goes to their own gatherings.

But of course, the same was true for our parents and grandparents. At one point, they had to stop relying on some other patriarch to host for the holidays and some became themselves their own patriarch. In other words, they had to shift from the child-mentality to a parent-mentality.

This is only a bad thing for the part of you that wants to remain a child forever. That's also the part of you that wants the women in your life to love you forever as a mother would - a role no woman will happily assume in your life. When you feel like 'thinking like a grown up who has to take care of himself and others' sucks because ultimately no one cares enough to take care of you, that's just the childish part of you feeling nostalgic.

TRP helps men get accustomed to the reality of their situation. There are all kinds of social mechanisms in place to prevent disillusionment, and that's because disillusionment is painful, and people always avoid pain by any means necessary.

At first, this view point sucks, but that's just because children are fearful and lazy. So the child-part will only focus on the suck aspects. But TRP also releases a lot of adult mental energy. It's great to feel like your happiness is your responsibility, that your sense of mission and your ability to realize that mission are how others judge you. We're actually fortunate that women reject us insofar as we remain bluepill children. We're surrounded by people who hold us accountable to our potential, and only 'love' us just as long as we're realizing the highest potential available to us.

Stop thinking like a consumer - a consumer who just wants to trade deeds/compliments/feats for affection, and become a producer - a man with a plan who fearlessly invites others into his plan if they can add value to it, or fires them as soon as the relationship is unproductive. Weakness and childishness are the psychological drives that make us want to simply join a stable plan of someone else's making, and assume an eternal role in that plan so we never have to think for ourselves. TRP lets you know that if you stay like a child, the world will punish you - you will be punished by having your heart broken by women who you mistake for your mother but soon become revolted by your weakness.

moodymela · 2015-02-01T13:29:33+00:00

"Happy is the man that knows the causes of things."

H42 · 2015-02-01T14:29:42+00:00

My friend, you are SOL.

"A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions."

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

cagethepepper · 2015-02-01T14:27:42+00:00

Damn, OP is choking hard on that pill. Have some water.

thredditsowaway · 2015-02-01T16:03:04+00:00

What you're doing right now is admitting that you're weak.

Even when you were blissfully confused by the "nice guys finish last" bullshit, a strong man would have known that the answer is obviously to stop being a nice guy... whether or not he's been exposed to TRP. I started moving towards TRP before this was even a subreddit, finding it has only accelerated my progress.

You're wishing you could purge TRP from your brain because you know it's right and you can't justify being a lazy bluepiller while knowing that you're doing the wrong thing. So you'd rather just unsee the truth.

If you're weak, you'll get angry at this and every other comment here because you know we're right. If you're strong, you'll cry for a few days, then go buy a fucking gym membership and quit complaining.

You're being a pussy, but that's okay. Everyone here was a pussy at one point.

watersign · 2015-02-01T16:36:24+00:00

well, i see where you're coming from but id rather be informed and miserable than being a blue pill chump who gets divorced raped or duped by a woman. knowledge is power

isthatyourdaughter · 2015-02-01T17:08:56+00:00

I just want to go back to before when I never thought about this stuff, when I was genuinely confused by the "nice guys finish last" phenomenon

You mean, so you can end up like this guy?

I've seen the long term results of blue pill ignorance; many of us here have. Trust me, you most definitely do not want that. Every man has an existential crisis at some point, better you have it now when so little is at stake.

aditas · 2015-02-01T13:24:57+00:00

TRP is not for everybody. Some prefer their bliss. You will not be missed.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-02-01T15:28:18+00:00

Growing up is always hard.

Learning that women look up to men and down to children is the essential transformation as you enter adulthood.

As long as you look up to women you will stay in the role of a child to his mother.

This has been true for all of history.

Feminism tries to prevent you from growing "UP".

laere · 2015-02-01T15:20:34+00:00

See reality for what it truly is. It hurts, and it sucks, but you need to use those feelings to fuel goals and aspirations. Living a lie never works out, but fucking reality and making it yours is what will help you reach the stars my man.

throwaway1643 · 2015-02-01T13:37:02+00:00

"Always better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy."

The reality is that social interactions between men and women doesn't happen in a vaccum. A lot of it is a consequence of human nature and biology that has been shaped by hundreds of thousands of years of natural selection.

Yes, it might make you unhappy, but wouldn't you rather live with that knowledge of reality and an understanding of how things actually work? I'd trade the price of happiness for that knowledge every time.

TekkomanKingz · 2015-02-01T13:44:29+00:00

Dude that's like saying you want to go back before 9/11 happened. You can't, we can only deal with this fucked up world we live in now where nobody trusts anyone and the government is watching your every move.

I see your point. However, the positive part of all of this is that you now have the power to create your own reality. Please read more and learn about "Frame". With frame you can sell people into how you think things should be, and not how they may naturally act. So in your presence their behavior will be different. Is this not creating the dream that you think is reality now?

You have to be young because most of the guys at my work have heard of RP or at least some diluted version of it and they don't outright deny that it's effective or necessary. So the pendulum has shifted and you don't want to be the last one on the boat setting sail to the new continent where Women respect Men and don't throw them under a MAC truck.

Also possibly get checked out for Low T or another vitamin deficiency. If you think TRP is "cringeworthy" then your estrogen levels are probably pretty damn high. Good luck.

CrustsRemoved · 2015-02-01T14:06:21+00:00

They call this the anger phase for a reason. It'll pass. Realizing that everyone is self interested and is mostly out for themselves is a bitter pill to swallow.

Transmigratory · 2015-02-01T14:33:07+00:00

Sounds like someone couldn't handle too much truth after seeing how deep the rabbit hole really is.

Trail_of_Jeers · 2015-02-01T16:00:40+00:00

The truth is not for everyone. Enjoy your steak.

2comment · 2015-02-01T14:59:09+00:00

Santa Clause isn't real Timmy. Don't be mad at me, I'm not the one who lied to you.

ChivaVonChiva · 2015-02-01T14:12:59+00:00

Maybe this place is just about mean ones.

This is fucking adorable. I'm gonna assume you're in High School. Get pushed around by women in college a few times and you'll be back.

BrotherBloodAngel · 2015-02-01T13:53:36+00:00

Imagine finding this after being a virgin for 24 years and finally losing your v card and having a shitty breakup. It makes any and all pain a lot more understandable. I'm some ways it is worse knowing and I hate knowing the nature of women. But I don't begrudge them. Fact is, if you're man enough, emblifying red pill gets easier. On my second ever first date, I felt exactly as you dedcribe, some fucking machine/copy. Like a manlier PUA. Such robotocism will fuck you over for engaging a woman's emotions more than having an aura of fake confidence. But you learn to merge rp lessons with your own personality that it becomes natural. Withholding validation, a&a, outcome independence. These are all valuable tools and life lessons that are useful in life not just women. Red pill might be the most effective strategy for women, but it is also the most excellent resource for learning to become a man again. Just keep at it.

chill1995 · 2015-02-01T14:04:51+00:00

You now realise that ignorance is bliss, mate. You can't ask for a handful of blue pills now, it's too late.

popthatpill · 2015-02-01T14:29:12+00:00

This is apropos (https://anarchopapist.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/redpilling/):

What is it to red pill, or as I will now refer to it, redpill?

What is entailed by redpilling is not merely the learning of new information, but information situated and arranged such that one experiences a quasi-traumatic shift in one’s interpretation of the world. It is not merely knowledge, but knowledge of a kind which introduces a previously unknown hermeneutic. After redpilling, one cannot go back. One is “unplugged,” he perceives the way in which his experience was previously structured by an inadequate means of belief formation. You see the reality, and so see the matrix for itself.

The redpill is always a counter to the bluepill, and so redpilling is understood as a choice. When one becomes aware that he has reached a boundary, one can either revert or convert. You can remain ignorant, but you will not have another opportunity to redpill; you can choose knowledge, but you cannot return to ignorance. One adopts a model which models their previous model, and once one has that insight on his previous means of gaining insight, no insight under the previous model is as complete as under the new model. This is why you can’t go back. Once you see the matrix, you cannot unsee it. To perceive an illusion for itself is to see through it.

Redpilling isn't just when you "unplug", it's more like tearing the cable out altogether.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2015-02-01T21:33:07+00:00

Bitter Misogynists

There is no going back.

NEO: “There’s no going back now is there?

MORPHEUS: “No. But if you could, would you really want to?”

One dynamic I encounter from guys who’ve experienced the ‘community’ in varying degrees is a desire to go back to their previously comfortable, ignorant bliss. The reality they become exposed to is too much to bear and they spit the red pill back up. They want to plug themselves back into the Matrix.

No person both frightens and disgusts me more than one who understands truth, but willfully opts for denial. It’s not the desire to do so that disgusts me, I understand the desire, it’s that there is no going back. Even if you never read another post or blog and regressed back to your old ways, you’ll still make the associations, see the signs of what others have analyzed in your own periphery, in women’s and the world’s behaviors and motivations, and you’ll be reminded (even if subconsciously) of that truth, or at least the uncomfortable push to get at the truth. You will only get what you’ve gotten if you keep doing what you’ve done.There is no going back now. Don’t wish it were easier. Wish you were better.

There comes a point of conflict (or revulsion if you want) after a guy has been unplugged from the Matrix long enough where he begins to doubt himself and what he’s seeing go on around him. All of the gender dynamics and the complex, but discreet, interplay between the sexes that’s been such a mystery for so long starts to become apparent to him. The Neg Hits he never would’ve dreamed of attempting in his AFC days become so predictably reliable at sparking interest that it becomes depressing. A backhanded compliment shouldn’t work; it goes against everything any girl has ever told him will endear him to a woman, but once he musters up the courage to experiment, he finds that they do.

What’s depressing isn’t that a well delivered neg, or C&F, or harnessing the attractive Alpha Asshole energy could actually generate sexual interest in women, it’s the principle behind them – the reason why they work – that prompts the internal conflict. Are women, generally, more like this than not? So a guy experiments a little more, and tests other theories, and discovers that with some minor variations, yes, for the most part the principles are valid if not predictable. This then becomes a real tough pill to swallow, especially when you consider ideas like the ruthlessness of feminine hypergamy. It’s very despairing, almost nihilistic, to a man fed on a steady diet of the flowery tropes of feminization for the better part of a lifetime. It’s very hard to measure oneself up and adjust to a new understanding of how women operate. He can’t reconcile what he’d been told and conditioned to believe before (the soul mate myth, pedestalize her, just be yourself, etc.) with this new paradigm. So either he learns to live with this new understanding, benefit from it and grow into a new role for himself, or he rejects it and vilifies it wholesale.

teeelo · 2015-02-01T13:25:42+00:00

You'll be OK buddy.

You're still a kid, plug back in for a while and ride that dream a little longer. Come back when the time is right.

spicy_fries · 2015-02-01T17:40:19+00:00

Better to be a confused incel

Chop your dick off already

Hazetrain · 2015-02-01T18:47:55+00:00

For anybody who got here too late to see the original rant before it was removed I was able to snag a couple screenshots. http://i.imgur.com/Bs0CTlT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CNwqp1u.jpg

GhostInTheRedPill · 2015-02-01T21:07:37+00:00

I read this post before it was removed and I'm glad I did. I think it had value, even though it was just a whining beta bitch wishing he could retake the blue pill and remember nothing about reality.

It could have been written ironically, but it was an insight into the depth of the blue pill illusion. The Disney dream that we can just let our guard down and live happily ever after. Some people don't want to let go of that.

I'm sure the mods had their reasons for removing the post, but I would ask that it be put back. The comments put the sentiments of the guy in place. Yeah, fuck this place, it bursts your bubble and exposes you to cold hard reality. Adapt or die.

dennislang · 2015-02-01T13:27:45+00:00

I see where you're coming from and I can understand you might be angry.

But you have to understand that this is part of the process. Right now you're shell-shocked by the things you've recently learned. As you regain your sense of hearing and your new perspective starts to settle, you'll find comfort once again.

Making an effort to delude yourself back into your old ways is extremely misguided. This is something you have to face head on. Don't worry - you can set your own pace. Take a break from RP theory and come back once you've settled down but do not make an effort to regress.

If you value and respect yourself you will embrace TRP.

jcrpta · 2015-02-01T13:47:03+00:00

Patience, young grasshopper.

It sounds like you're still in the early stages - you've read a few things on here and you're thinking "yeah, I know it all now...".

The problem is that RP is a fairly complex philosophy that you cannot hope to understand properly by browsing through here for a few hours - do that, and the likelihood is you'll see enough to realise there's a glimmer of truth to it but nothing like enough to fully understand.

You cannot un-see what has been seen. But you can make yourself a better man such that it no longer bothers you.

BluepillProfessor · 2015-02-01T17:41:27+00:00

We see people cough up the pill all the time. Don't be a Cypher.

I still manage to be sweet and come across like a nice guy that I want to be, but it's really hard and I don't want to have to try.

Once you actually swallow the pill- instead of choking on it- you will understand that a "nice" guy is not really "nice." In fact, that "nice guy persona" you have going really sucks and girls hate it. Don't listen to what they SAY, act Red Pill and watch what they DO. Read No More Mr. Nice Guy before you do any more redditting.

I need an antidote, an anti-redpill to take me back to before.

The antidote is called "Acceptance." Only then will you have some of the peace you need.

I like girls! They're just like guys in that there are nice ones and mean ones.

I like girls too. I love my wife. I love her soft skin and her sweet disposition. I don't love the Shit Tests, or the cyclical bitchiness, or the sexual reticence. The Red Pill lets me understand and handle what I don't like.

However, you can claim that we are 'the same' all you want and you can tell yourself that while sticking your fingers in your ear going "La La La La" like a little girl but it will not change the fact that girls and guys are NOT the same. Not at all. We are motivated by sex. They are motivated by manipulating us with sex. They have a dual mating strategy while ours is rather singular. Their hamsters are quite different. They are cyclical in mood and affect depending on their cycle- and whether they are "nice" or "mean" depends way more on how strong YOU are than whether you have a typical slutty bitch or a special snowflake. AWALT.

Accept the truth and use it to make your life better than you could have imagined.

DoctorWelch · 2015-02-01T17:28:36+00:00

Grow up and stop crying about the fact that you didn't know everything. If you haven't gotten to the point in life where you can routinely question your own line of thinking and analyze information to build a better foundation for your life then you have more problems than finding TRP.

No matter what the subject, finding out you were wrong about something should be a good thing because you can change the way you think or your actions to align better with the new reality you have discovered. Only children want to live in a made up world and not meet the challenge of living in the real one.

thegr8b8m8 · 2015-02-01T15:38:42+00:00

I can relate completely. It's hard to deal with. But living a lie is not the way I want to be either. This sub is not what's wrong. All we are doing here is trying to figure out the best way to cope with our new found reality. You can't go back so don't even try.

HelloJapan1 · 2015-02-01T16:37:01+00:00

dont get angry..... use what you know to your advantage!

Steve_Wiener · 2015-02-01T17:09:01+00:00

Can I get you a tissue or something? Some warm milk?

therock6658 · 2015-02-01T17:54:27+00:00

Are you trying to cough up that red pill and go back into the Matrix?

Too bad. Maybe you could advocate for men's rights though by participating in the next men's rights conference.

so6p · 2015-02-01T18:02:14+00:00

This rant reminds me of this scene from Matrix: Cypher and Smith

Also, if you incompletely swallow the red pill, you will feel choked all the time. Let it slide down or vomit it out.

beta_cunt · 2015-02-01T18:05:07+00:00

Reality sucks and wonderland was much better. Echoing those sentiments myself but I now know what I'm doing wrong and it will save me a world of trouble.

rabblerabble8 · 2015-02-01T18:07:22+00:00

There are plenty of people out there who never want to know how the sausage is made. They'd prefer to live their life like an ostrich with his head in the sand, in an "ignorance is bliss" haze.

There are also those who want what comes with true manhood, the ability to look at the world and see it for what is it instead of what we're told it should be. This path does not come consequence free, as true knowledge and understanding rarely does.

Mildly_Sociopathic · 2015-02-01T18:09:02+00:00

"For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow."

randarrow · 2015-02-01T18:19:20+00:00

Cognitive dissonance is painful. Eventually the pain goes away. Relearning how to enjoy things is a part of the process.

This is like knowing which food you loved gave you the gurgles and shits. I love oatmeal, but it took years for me to figure out that that is why my stomach sounded like the percussion section of the mutant orchestra some days. Didn't think I would ever enjoy oatmeal again. Now that I know, I save the oatmeal for days when I'm going to be home alone or out in the woods and enjoy it in peace.

Not sorry for the shitty analogy. Grow up dude.

RealRational · 2015-02-01T18:20:32+00:00

OP wants to live the feminine lie. I get it, it's comfortable, it's easier, and he probably comes from middle class in a first world country as well; or better.

If you want to have what little control is actually possible over your own life, you can't reject the pill.

To take the feminine route of life, turning everything into a lie that suits you, ignoring reality and instead lying to yourself about what reality is, pretending that reality adapts to you, instead of you having to adapt to reality, can only end badly.

It means you'll never achieve anything of worth. Living that way makes your existence meaningless.

TL:DR If you truly prefer living a lie to the truth, just kill yourself. You're already dead. Your body just hasn't caught on yet.

R4F1 · 2015-02-01T18:21:38+00:00

Ignorance is bliss, huh? Well, there is an antidote for the red pill, its called Kool Aid, keep drinking it. You'll be back to "normal".

nuc22 · 2015-02-01T18:30:47+00:00

Damn! It hurt so much being a Red Pill knowing that every step you will encounter shit test from people around you so watch your foot and step.

KarmaEnthusiast · 2015-02-01T18:35:16+00:00

Don't give up on it. This subreddit can often (and has to me) seem like a honey trap of information. You get stuck on this notion and that notion and eventually you're out in the world being a dick to everyone since you're constantly self-analyzing.

The best advice is to tell yourself this: You're not special, you are playing the exact game as everyone else. There's no 'playing harder to win more', there's only where you choose to devote your resources.

Then, jump in and splash around and have fun with it.

Or don't, I swallowed the pill a long time ago and don't really care what you do.

balalasaurus · 2015-02-01T18:41:36+00:00

No-one's stopping you from going back to your BP fantasies. It's your life at the end of the day.

What pisses me off is the fact that you think it's ok to make a post in TRP sub, hating on TRP and telling people to turn away from it.

We get enough misguided hate from outside this sub. We don't need it from you.

instaswole · 2015-02-01T18:51:26+00:00

Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

Obsequiae · 2015-02-01T13:56:12+00:00

Well-being should not be ascertained by looking at how one relates in a clearly dysfunctional society. Then again, if you want to pull to veil back over your eyes then be my guest - as you said quite brazenly, fuck TRP.

stealthcreeper · 2015-02-01T13:45:51+00:00

sure go ahead and blindfold yourself again

loin_fruit · 2015-02-01T17:34:22+00:00

Look man nothing will be more bitter or hurt more than the amount of fucked up shit that women will do to you due to the fact you opted out of trp and decided learning the hard way was better.

You will get fucked over and not respected and when you get married someday your wife will still be thinking about dudes that drove her crazy and made her attraction levels insane. Guys like us.

Before taking trp it was nice to not have to worry about the specifics of what we're coming out of my mouth. "I was being myself". However I was never getting laid. Now that I've been a member here for a little bit, I've gotten laid every month and more. I have two plates. As much as its not morally correct one of them is married.

I used to be the dude that married this girl. I used to be just like him and a pussy. I got cheated on before. Now the tables are turned and now I am desired and wanted and I don't always have to hit the girls up for sex. They'll hit me up. It's an awesome feeling being wanted.

Lastly and more importantly this place has made me a better person. It showed me what direction I need to go and improve myself. I've been working out and getting into shape. I've been learning French. Reading more books. Picking up hockey and other hobbies. It's been one of the better things to happen.

saltinado · 2015-02-01T14:36:36+00:00

You are definitely right, there are nice women, and there are mean manipulative women. There are nice men, and there are mean manipulative men. This sub is mostly composed of the latter. Lady hate is not normal, dude. Unplug from TRP and get back to real life.

souredPA · 2015-02-01T18:19:25+00:00

Fuck you...once you step into the light you can't go back into the darkness. Go stick your head in the sand, it's where it belongs.

COGofSOUTHbend · 2015-02-01T13:58:43+00:00

Fucking pussy. If you and I were prison inmates you'd be my bitch because you ain't a man.

As it is, next time your with your skank girl - know she'd rather be riding me.

Go to the blue pill faggot.

Weedwin31 · 2015-02-01T18:39:50+00:00

I think, I see like many people here the things you just posted differently, in a different perspective I may say, TRP is a way of understanding how women react to certain situations and how that could give us in some way benefits , I think the more you know about something , the easier it is to interact with and comprehend it, I love my bitches but I behave in a way so they can love back, the fact that life might get to the end in anytime does not mean I will complain about it , I'm gunna take advantage of this of much as I can

Title	Fuck this place
Author	-robknows-
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Date	February 1, 2015 1:15 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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