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[–]chippy21 30 points31 points32 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Never take an ex back. She tried to do better and is settling with you.
This. I'm glad i've woken up to see this and helped find girls who are not only hotter, but treat me better too.
[–]throwawaymuffeater 37 points38 points39 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
While I read this, I can't help but imagine a bunch of guys in suits standing in the elevator. One after the other letting out a piece of advice. Lmao
[–]Venividivixii 86 points87 points88 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This is like a male version of tumblr. Take this shit somewhere else.
[–]Casual_Tits 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The origin of the information and the way it's being presented makes it a bit more interesting. I see your point though - many of these sayings could be typed onto an image and wow, suddenly tumblr.
[–]UncharminglyWitty 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's also fake. It's been admitted many times that the writer/owner of GSElevator isn't actually a GS employee
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[–]Alex_is_not_on_fire 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The guy who wrote it doesn't even work for Goldman Sachs.
[–]BeardOfKings 33 points34 points35 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
A few of these are difinitely BP.
Didn't TRP used to rave about how you should never pay for dinner so that you dont end up beta bucks?
[–]noblepaladin 27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This is Goldman Sachs, they play by different rules and have a different frame. If you split the bill with a commoner, then you must be from the commoner class.
[–]davemandavefan71 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good point. I'm a college student. There are some things in here that simply don't apply.
Time is too short to do your own laundry.
Some of my best plates began in the laundry room of my college dorm.
[–]noblepaladin 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, a Goldman Sachs managing director can pretty much state that he is a far more important person and his time is way too valuable, so he will pay for dinner and she will fuck him, and he will leave in the morning to get back to a multi-billion dollar deal and the woman would accept that frame. Pro-athletes, famous actors/musicians, etc, do the same. But if you are in college and you are with another college student and you try to pull that routine, you are probably going to have a bad time.
[–]HAMMURABl 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
i work in banking. i know people that work for goldman sachs - VP and in the infamous strategy section. they do not play by different rules or have a different frame. the ones i knew are pretty nice, and you would never assume them to be GS.
the text above was probably written by some interns or business analysts.
[–]Tumau 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IIRC this twitter handle is run by someone not affiliated with GS and was called out on it at one point.
[–]noblepaladin 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are in banking so you are their equals. When I say they play by different rules, I don't mean that they are douchebags or assholes, but it is that when he meets an average person, both sides know that he is in a significantly higher social class.
A better example would be a 26 year old professional dating an 18 year old freshman girl in high school. The 26 year old might be a banker or engineer making six figures. When they go out and eat, is he actually going to split everything in half? If so, they are going to only end up in dates at Taco Bell because she doesn't have any money. Or maybe her dad is a blue collar worker who has to work hard to send his daughter to college, and he is able to give her a small allowance. Is the 26 year old guy who is making six figures going to split the cost of every date perfectly in half, knowing that the girl's money is coming from the allowance given by the father who is doing tough physical labor, and that father could potentially be his father-in-law if their relationship works out?
When you are significantly ahead in social class, the rules are different. It would be extremely beta to be so terrified of being beta bucks that you would eat Taco Bell and McDonalds all the time (since that is all the girl can afford) when that is so low quality that your social class would pay to NOT eat it.
If you are earning $500k+/yr, with prospects of making far more because you are good at your job, and you are dating a hot elementary school teacher that is several years younger than you that makes less than 1/10 of you, it is not beta to end up spending more than she does. Of course, you don't take her to four star restaurants all the time, as that is beta bucks, but you take her to places that exceed your minimum required quality. You are paying to avoid eating crap.
[–]1cover20 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, with these investment banks in general and Goldman more than others, there's an expectation of very proper behavior in public. They're paying that big money partly so you can spread a bit of it around properly to create a good image for the Firm.
Behave properly and never discuss Firm business in public. Avoid controversies.
[–]Alex_is_not_on_fire 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These aren't from Goldman Sachs though.
[–]squishles -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
more general form: 5 figures outnumbers 6 outnumbers 7 ect; that's the shape of the world.
No advice is immune to that bias.
[–]1cover20 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What are some points that you think no longer work?
[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is middle upper class advice; good stuff but it'll only take you so far.
Be among the elite, walk amongst the regular.
[–]toofantastic 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most of this garbage belongs in the blue-pill "art of manliness" site. I know some guys in investment banking and I've never heard of a single one even approaching the claptrap on this list.
Read the sidebar. Please.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes, of course you have to buy her dinner.
I have found that buying--or better--making a woman food is pleasurable. It's similar to the pleasure of a woman wearing my pajama bottoms and a t-shirt of mine that fits her oddly. Just because men are not morally obligated to provide for women doesn't mean that it can't be a fantastic feeling to do so.
Tip more than you should.
Generosity feels good. Nietzsche said that cheerfulness is a surplus of strength. Disposable surplus of strength (in this case money) is both a status symbol and a way to reinforce one's abundance mentality.
You probably use your cell phone too often and at the wrong moments.
Airplane mode is your friend. Use it every day for at least an hour.
money is about facilitating spontaneity.
In other words, money, used wisely, is freedom. Freedom, used correctly, is one of the highest ideals to which a human can aspire. An unfree life induced by lack of money, or money used unwisely, is the ultimate waste.
Read more. It allows you to borrow someone else’s brain, and will make you more interesting at a dinner party – provided that you don’t initiate conversation with, “So, who are you reading …”
If you wont read more, try listening to podcasts by people much more intelligent than you. I recommend "The Partially Examined Life," "The Psychedelic Salon," and "Dan Carlin's Hardcore History."
[–]DeltaCypher0 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dan Carlin is the man. I'm going to check out the other two you recommended. If you enjoy Dan, I'm sure these are good too. Thanks. I second Joe Rogan, and Dan Carlin has another good show called "Common Sense".
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cool. Partially Examined Life is a philosophy podcast and is extremely intellectually rigorous, almost unapproachable at times. I wasn't aware of Common Sense. Will have to look that up now.
[–]temerarious 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Also, Joe Rogan's podcast is pretty good. The dude is very red pill in personality, though not in some of his philosophical stances. He has very intelligent people on his podcast though and he often is good at asking the right questions.
I imagine most people on this sub are already familiar with him though.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I listen to Joe Rogan as well. He has his moments but wouldn't consider him a sophisticated thinker at all. Compare, for example, to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1du0IAZvg8M
There's no comparison.
[–]RedPillington 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i don't think he's a sophisticated thinker, but i actually liked his podcast with neil degrasse tyson because he was willing to ask a brilliant man any question regardless of how dumb it was.
[–]ThrownAwayTRP 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even better: The Freakonomics Podcast. You will learn that many things are not as they seem while also understanding how you can use logic and numbers to find an answer to almost any problem. Very fascinating, I listen to them on the train every morning.
[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh, boy, another set of rules for being exactly like the author, who has nothing better to do than sit around making up lists of rules!
[–]FallenHighSchoolJock 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If only he was a veteran, then I'd listen to him!
[–]PlusGoody 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
GS Elevator never (seriously) pretended to be from an actual current GS employee. The real author was a longtime bulge bracket finance guy, and the point of the Twitter feed / website / book is to sometimes lovingly mock, and sometimes ambivalently admire, the grew-up-at-a-good-gentile-country-club, played-lax-at-Dartmouth ethos of a certain kind of banker, and to cause finance people who aren't in that demographic (nerds of any descent, hustlers from the sticks, kids of Asian and Jewish doctors) to reflect on what portion of that ethos still has value.
[–]UncharminglyWitty 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's worth noting it's more or less fake. The guy who made it and writes the tweets is not and has never been a GS employee. Doesn't change the message, just the delivery.
[–]rumbledust 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
'Hookers aren't cool'
Fuck you. They're all hookers, the only variable is payment method.
[–]reason_is_why 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reasonable question: does that make all men tricks with the only variable being the size of their wallets?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I disagree about the shotgun thing:
I'm much more likely to hold on to a family-heirloom hand-engraved pistol (like a Smith & Wesson M586) than a large engraved shotgun. I'm also less likely to be tempted to go and shoot it at the skeet range.
Great list, I've read this before but it deserves to be read continuously.
[–]RedPillington 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your ties should be rolled and placed in a sectioned tie drawer.
goddammit, i knew there was a way.
[–]AmazonExplorer 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Interesting. But in accordance with Francis Bacon's quote:
Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested.
[–]egodidactus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Furthermore:
Reading maketh a full man, conference a ready man, and writing an exact man. -Francis Bacon.
[–]sagacioussage 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what does he mean by conference?
[–][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One example I can think of is if a guy is affectionate sometimes, she'll expect it all the time, even when he wants to be alone, or he's tired from work.
[–]shakethesh 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Two questions:
Why do you say "of course you have to buy her dinner." I've always gotten conflicting remarks about this stuff, including just on this subreddit.
What do you mean by "date women outside your social set?"
[–]Alex_is_not_on_fire 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't want to have an ugly relationship that might cause rifts in your mutual friend group. Basically, it's just too risky - you can alienate a lot of people who you don't want to alienate when relationships or FWBs go south.
It's a variation of "don't shit where you eat."
[–]AnotherLostCause 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have been served well by these two rules. 1 Keep the gas tank on the car half full not half empty. 2 Keep a hundred dollar reserve in your wallet for emergencies.
[–]_rs 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All this is from a twitter parody account, take what you want from it.
https://twitter.com/GSElevator
[–]fl3wy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eating out alone can be magnificent. Find a place where you can sit at the bar.
I do this. I love it.
[–]jkonine 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That twitter account ended up being confirmed fake. It was all made up shit by this CPA in Long Island.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
People who don't work in finance are really easily identifiable: they always use GMS as an example of wall street extravagance. Yeah, you've heard about them on the news a few time, and you probably think they are really cool - but the real big dicks on Wall Street are the guys from Blackrock.
[–]chairmobile -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow that is practically pure rp advice.
[–]BeatArmy99 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of this is pretty priceless - and much of it can be learned simply through recognizing the lessons that each life experience is revealing to you.
[–]LordOfMurderMountain -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I swear I read this in Esquire. Good tips, nonetheless.
[–]FallenHighSchoolJock -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol at trying to live up to those blood sucking leeches. They are not men, they are parasites who live off the buying and selling of things made by real men. I'd rather be a broke male model any day.
[+]scalentorn -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Pretty good list, except these four. I don't think you should be doing them tbh.
Revenge can be a good way of getting over anger.
Revenge is never worth it. Like really. It's best to forget on %95 of occassions.
No. Just NO. If you asked her out and it's the first time, maybe. But she is not my paid escort or wife, why would I fucking pay the whole thing..
I never tip, never ever. I am a student and working a part-time job and it's tough already. Money isn't earned easily.
One girlfriend at a time is probably enough.
This could be possible if she is a decent one but, again you should be spinning plates if in doubt.
[–]temerarious 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
If you can't afford to tip, that mean you can't afford to go to places that are offering you service. Make your own food and serve yourself. In many states, there a different minimum wage for tipped positions and they're only getting like $2.50 an hour which all gets taken for taxes. Tips are their only source of income.
Don't be a cheap asshole.
[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Disagreed. I'm not going to endorse and participate in a corrupt food service industry by enabling their abuse of their workers. I'm never going to tip anyone period, and believing that tipping is the "right thing to do" is about as plugged in / blue pill as it gets. You're not responsible for their shitty job and their shitty job circumstances, and thinking that you are is downright pathetic.
It's not even about the money. Even if I end up making millions a year I won't tip. I will not be guilted into charity, because I'm not an impressionable blue pill beta.
On top of that, the only way to properly destroy this unfair wage / tipping industry where only the restaurants benefit is to collectively stop tipping so the workers stop working / are receiving less than minimum wage and then the pressure is on the restaurants.
tl;dr tipping is retarded and as beta as it gets.
[–]temerarious 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is a very ignorant opinion.
I'm not going to endorse and participate in a corrupt food service industry by enabling their abuse of their workers.
Yet, you are participating by dining there in the first place, supporting the restaurant with your money, then making it even harder on the servers by not paying them. It's not charity, you're paying them for their service. You're basically stealing service from them because you can legally do so. If you don't want to pay for the service, don't take advantage of it.
I will not be guilted into charity, because I'm not an impressionable blue pill beta.
You sound extremely BP. Your ego is bristling at the thought of the possibility that you're getting pressured into paying an unfair fee. It's blinding you to the fact that the fee isn't unfair at all. They are serving you and enhancing your dining experience. That's valuable work they're doing, work that you refuse to compensate them with.
Or stop going to the restaurant altogether so you're not giving your money to the entity that is the problem in the first place. You won't do that though. That would negatively affect your quality of life. Better to rationalize taking advantage of other people and call it being principled.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol it's not about ego bro it's about respect and i don't respect an industry that tries to extort me for extra cash using guilt.
it's like everything i said went over your head. take your fingers out of your ears bro...
[–]temerarious 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i don't respect an industry that tries to extort me for extra cash using guilt.
Yet you continue to patronize that industry knowing full-well the terms involved and you're taking advantage of the lowest tier just to benefit yourself.
If I have no respect for an industry that I feel is trying to extort me, I don't patronize that industry.
[–]Chirp_Downvote_Celly 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They're clearly not extorting you for anything as you are free to tip nothing and leave without any problems, other than being a fucking idiot.
Christ it's hard to believe how many morons have made their way to TRP but it really was only a matter of time. Enjoy a life of never being respected by anyone above the lower class in the US, you've already made it your ceiling of possible achievement based on these embarrassing claims alone.
lol i don't plan to live in the us post college anyways.
and lol at someone who calls themselves a red piller desperate for the respect and validation of others. the irony. you fail sir.
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you live in Turkey why did you even bring it up? This was written in the US where tipping is not just customary, but required for the server to earn a living.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe don't become a waiter if you want a job that will "earn you a living". I love how the person buying food is responsible for your shitty waiter conditions. I have friends who are waiters who agree with me in theory but are petty and want money so they choose to disagree with me.
[–]temerarious 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Obviously customs are different in different countries. In China, you're not expected to ever tip and it's borderline rude to do so. I don't know about Turkey, but the article was written in the US. In the US, don't go somewhere that provides service if you can't afford to tip for that service.
[–]ultrasuperthrowaway 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This article was written in the GS building in Japan. In Japan it is extreme insult to tip!
[–]temerarious 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If it was written in Japan and it's an insult to tip, why was that piece of advice written there?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Then don't eat out. Tipping is a part of the cost of the meal as far as I'm concerned. Nobody cares how tough your financial situation is. Nothing screams "cheap dickhead" more than someone who doesn't tip. This isn't just advise for going out with women either. Everyone notices when you don't tip. Do you think I'm going to invite you to do some cool shit with me (and possibly my whole circle of friends) if you can't even spare a few bucks for a tip? A non-tipper usually perceived as a mooch (not saying you are a mooch, but this is true most of the time).
Being poor and being cheap are two different things (although you can be both). I'd much rather a poor friend who lived within their means to a cheap friend who cuts corners to live outside their means. Don't be a non-tipper. It's a small thing, but it's something people WILL notice and it does impact the perception people have of you.
EDIT: I see you aren't in the US, so things are different in your situation. However my message is still true for anyone who doesn't tip in the US
In some countries it is a huge insult to tip, don't do it in Japan.
[–]ultrasuperthrowaway -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ahh yea no problem I guess I was thinking Japan because I was just in Tokyo and they had a GS location next to the Grand Hyatt Tokyo in Roppongi Hills
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