I made her head explode.

Scroph · 2015-04-01T14:37:10+00:00

So, despite privilege, men put in most of the work into society, does that mean that men should make all the rules and be all the leaders?

She didn't disagree with the "men put most of the work into society" statement ?

Paranoidexboyfriend · 2015-04-01T15:37:19+00:00

I am a current lawyer. You know how we warn guys about to get married that they're making a huge mistake? Your choice of career is a huge mistake. Turn back now.

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99919 · 2015-04-01T15:14:15+00:00

Unfortunately, you are also suffering from a logical fallacy. You're trying to use logic to win arguments, which works great if you're arguing with a logical person.

However, if you're arguing with a person who makes decisions based on "feelings," you're not going to win them over with logic. For this type of person, the answer to your unassailable logic is easy: "That's disgusting." "You're creepy." "Eww, what is wrong with you." Result: both sides think they won, because winning means something different to her than it does to you.

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FrankWG · 2015-04-01T16:52:31+00:00

She really just had to respond that the fact that man put in most work is not really true, it's just that the patriarchy defines work only what men do, ignoring the poor women oppressed at home. And, you are a mysogynist for buying into that assumption.

But I guess even their own arguments are too difficult for poor little snoflakes.

FrameWalker · 2015-04-01T14:51:20+00:00

I would not recommend trying this out at home.

men put in most of the work into society.

This point can be attacked easily. Both men and women work etc etc

HumanSockPuppet · 2015-04-01T17:18:27+00:00

If you argued with a feminist, then you're the one who lost.

That's a perfectly good ten minutes you could have spent making a sandwich and then eating it. Or telling her to make you a sandwich so you can eat it.

Ah_ok · 2015-04-01T15:53:43+00:00

You only "won" this argument because she was an idiot and didn't come back with the obvious rebuttal that men don't indeed contribute more to society than women... (whether or not that rebuttal is true.)

[deleted] · 2015-04-01T19:39:33+00:00

So you're just bragging that you were more clever than a girl? Quality post!

borsodas · 2015-04-01T15:18:51+00:00

don't be a lawyer it's not what it used to be

Orflarg · 2015-04-01T17:40:59+00:00

You sure did it OP. You put her in her place and clearly demonstrated your dominance. I am very happy this post is on the front page because there is just so much value to be pulled from it. /s

But really though, this is just a giant circle jerk of how smart you think you are without providing any actual insight to anything of significance.

95wave · 2015-04-01T17:40:34+00:00

I don't even care if this didn't happen, it was entertaining to read.

MentORPHEUS · 2015-04-01T17:47:25+00:00

I love it when a bombastic ideologue is reduced to stuttering like a scratched CD.

It's one thing to win an argument and leave the other in defeat, but it's a whole different level to get your "opponent" to understand your viewpoint and possibly accept it.

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UsernameIWontRegret · 2015-04-01T18:21:35+00:00

shit post what the fuck is this

mordanus · 2015-04-01T18:05:26+00:00

Breaking a hamster is one of the best moments ever. It's like their brain shuts down. Great job man. I would have loved to have seen that

UsernameIWontRegret · 2015-04-01T14:36:36+00:00

I imagine a robot going defect/having an error, haha.

my_redpill_account · 2015-04-01T15:51:34+00:00

I would have just gave a "Oooookaaay..." look, completely ignoring what she said and did something else, leave, or whatever.

Not really worth wasting your time arguing back, especially with someone who thinks like they do.

Washedupoaf · 2015-04-01T16:34:23+00:00

That cognitive dissonance is a bitch though, isn't it? Haha great job man, logic nuking feminists can be fun

MattyAnon · 2015-04-01T18:01:24+00:00

AWESOME WORK.

Especially on clarifying the bounds of what you say (and getting her agreement) ie closing the net... before you pounce.

Very very well argued. Given a few more seconds she'd have responded with ad hominem attacks I'm sure.

Nice one.

[deleted] · 2015-04-01T18:02:03+00:00

You will make a fine attorney one day, my friend. Keep up your ability to deduce basic logic, and learn the finer points of presenting an argument orally (it helps you learn how to speak and get your point across more concisely). And good job.

zephyrprime · 2015-04-01T18:26:25+00:00

Well played sir. Well played.

rdesktop7 · 2015-04-01T18:30:01+00:00

"Even esteemed, young feminists are no match for logic. "

I wouldn't be so quick to categorize.

Some feminists have go so far down the rabbit hole that they are unable to consider logic, only rhetoric.

NevrEndr · 2015-04-01T19:56:57+00:00

GWS - has there ever been a more worthless course of study?

Answer: nope.

the_red_scimitar · 2015-04-01T20:04:10+00:00

Logic isn't any more their strong point than it is for a Tea Party representative. They run on loudness, emotion, and shame. Logic and rationality are rarely effective, so extra kudos for actually getting her to even partially engage with the hypocrisy of her viewpoint.

Hennez · 2015-04-01T14:16:56+00:00

Oh boy, that was awesome. I can imagine the situation and how it developed perfectly.

Well played sir, upvoted!

RPB1 · 2015-04-01T17:48:12+00:00

A woman being pregnant is not work. Inconvenient yes, but calling it "work" is a stretch. They don't have to understand anything about splicing DNA or forming polypeptides (things men discovered by the way); biology does everything for them. Their only task is to over-eat, be taken care of, and stay the hell out of nature's way.

Modern medicine and our environmental conditions have made any associated risks all but negligible except for a handful of women with very specific health problems.

And as for being a mother? That's no more difficult than being a father, and any woman who wants to pat herself on the back for it better be ready to honor the patriarchs otherwise they vastly overestimate their contribution.

The obligations associated with being a mother aren't even difficult compared to mere decades ago. Doing laundry no longer takes all day because washing machines. Doing dishes takes less time because dishwashers. Brooms have been replaced with vacuum cleaners and mops with Swiffer Sweepers. I'd go on but my point is obvious.

All a mother really has to do today is manage her own use of time (spoiler alert: all adults have to), prepare food (feeding yourself is a basic skill), and clean up after them. All of this takes a laughable amount of time when done efficiently.

In my experience, every mother (single or otherwise) is getting help from somebody even if it's Uncle Sam.

Unless your kid is physically or cognitively defective, having children is not survival-by-the-skin-of-your-teeth like in the days of yore where men too had to put themselves in physical harm's way to defend a glorified parasite that's slowing you down.

Perpetually laboring to acquire the knowledge, skills and gainful employment to feed all those mouths without sucking on government titty? Now that's work.

I'm not saying there aren't badass moms and wives out there, I am saying that being a woman in today's society doesn't require the self-sacrifice that men must endure. Everything they have, both good and bad, they have because of us.

You're welcome ladies.

[deleted] · 2015-04-01T14:33:57+00:00

I would give anything to see her face!

Drops mike /

[deleted] · 2015-04-01T15:54:26+00:00

I imagine that it looked something like this.

elcarlosmiguel · 2015-04-01T14:19:27+00:00

haha this is gold man i wich i had the chance to see her face.

momomotorboat · 2015-04-01T19:49:58+00:00

No homo, but I love this post.

Jokes aside, one of the biggest reasons I took to TRP so quickly was in one of the first posts I read someone discussed how logic is irrelevant to women. I had always felt that way. I was raised in a 'forward-thinking' household full of contradictions when it came to women. I was a precocious little kid who actually applied the ideas I was taught to all situations. Man, I wish someone told me earlier on how shit really was.

For years I would either be told I was wrong or that I was 'over-thinking' things when I was logical when it came to women. You can imagine my relief when I found a community like this one.

Barely_Intrepid · 2015-04-01T18:21:33+00:00

Is it normal to talk about weighty topics with strangers?

Socializing is for socializing, arguing is unseemly, even debate. This is especially true with women. At best you are a bully picking on a chick (you know feminists will play this card), at worse you look like that dipshit constantly trying to prove his intelligence. These friendless autists can be identified by their fondness of the word, "actually".

Want to really blow a feminists mind, be charismatic, be charming, friendly, a great conversationalist. Be a good listener, that's all 99% of people want, someone to listen to them. Do that and she'll do what women do and try and endear herself to you. Let her. If she insists on talking about feminism for the duration, that's her business. Others will see her as combative and unsocial. She's only alienating herself. I'd avoid being dragged down with her.

When you say goodby, mention casually to her that its unfortunate she holds such extreme views, that otherwise it would be nice to hang out again.

This will do more damage to a woman's psychie than any amount of logic. Women don't give a shit about logic. This is the nuclear option. If a high value male shuts her down completly, her feminin insecurities go into overdrive. You've already done the work for her, its feminism that made her undesirable. In her mind ALL high value guys will think feminism is undesirable. Every subconcious survival instinct will go into overdrive to purge feminism from her mind, not because its wrong, because it makes her look bad.

If she tries to argue, maintain frame. A simple chuckle and "see what I mean" to your friend is all you need.

I've done this, it works.

Note, if she playfully says something like "I'll convince you", she's flirting and ill leave that choice up to you.

CrimsonDeep · 2015-04-01T15:29:01+00:00

logic is the bain to the super feminist. You're lucky she hasn't devolved into an emotional rationale and called you for "MANSPLAINING" aka using facts and/or logic for your statements and cases you are making.

iluvpeople · 2015-04-01T15:46:43+00:00

That was an awesome reply man! You are going to be a good lawyer.

Is there a book that teaches one how to argue?

bluedrygrass · 2015-04-01T15:48:56+00:00

Wonderful, just wonderful.

You could see logic fighting to destruction with The Hamster in her head. Like matter and antimatter completely annihilating at contact.

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DrRPPhD · 2015-04-01T18:47:30+00:00

That was shitty logic. As others noted, the statement that "men put in most of the work into society" could easily be attacked. But let's accept that premise. Your argument still falls apart.

Her argument is that an individual women is doing pretty much all the work in a pregnancy, hence she gets to decide if she calls it quits or not. This applies across all pregnancies. Never is there a man carrying the fetus. In the case where a trans-man got pregnant, the trans-man could opt to abort with no input from anyone else.

You are trying to extend this to voting. Except, even if men as a group are contributing more to society, that doesn't mean you are doing your part. It doesn't mean that there aren't women who aren't contributing as much as a man who can vote. In that case, one might constrain voting to productive members of society. This has been done - perhaps you need to be land owner or pay tax, perhaps there was a literacy test, perhaps you had to pay a poll tax, whatever. All those things, on their own, would not necessarily bar women from voting.

TheD_ · 2015-04-01T18:11:27+00:00

Argument flawed; men don't put most the work into society.

bluedrygrass · 2015-04-01T16:08:19+00:00

Also, her argument is flawed at the base, because a child is not a thing. You can't "decide" to kill someone only because you can.

Mark_D_Aardvark · 2015-04-01T16:05:19+00:00

How about escalation? Women should have a right to choose father for their baby, paternal testing should be criminal offense (as in France)....

Title	I made her head explode.
Author	UsernameIWontRegret
Upvotes	151
Comments	129
Date	April 1, 2015 1:44 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/31209o/i_made_her_head_explode/
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