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Kickstarter removes seduction guide project, grovels "We were wrong"

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June 21, 2013
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Title Kickstarter removes seduction guide project, grovels "We were wrong"
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Date June 21, 2013 4:22 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could be a good candidate for the Feminist Victims Fund.

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta 68 points69 points70 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

They called it violence against women. Holy fuck. Beta admins at kickstarter think seducing a women is violent. Tofu has a heart of gold.

Pathetic. This is how powerful shaming tactics are.

[–]EtovNowd 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not criticizing this post, but a word on TofuTofu,...

Dude is White guy living in Japan. I highly doubt he should be the one writing a book on seduction.

It's kind of like - I don't want to take investment advice from Donald Trump. It's easy to make a billion dollars when you're born a millionaire. It's easy to seduce women, when you're a high-value foreigner in another country.

Not hatin' just statin'.

I'd rather see a book by some fat, nerdy slob who turned his life around and became a seducer. Just like I like hearing success stories from people who overcame poverty.

I've been reading tons of TofuTofu's posts for a while (years) but they're not applicable to the US, unless you're like a French guy in the US. Being french pretty much guarantees you pussy. You don't need to write a book on it like you overcame some huge obstacle.

Again, I don't know TofuTofu personally, and this isn't a criticism on him or his skills, it's just not applicable to many aspects of life, or to those suffering from blue-pill-itis. It's just, you shouldn't give investment advice if you made your money by winning the lottery.

[–]RedSunBlue 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've been reading tons of TofuTofu's posts for a while (years) but they're not applicable to the US, unless you're like a French guy in the US.

I disagree. I live in Japan. The whole "white guys get easy pussy" may still be true out in the sticks, but in Tokyo there are MANY white dudes more attractive than TofuTofu who get zilch. TofuTofu himself is actually kinda chubby.

This isn't to say that white guys don't get freebies from foreigner-crazy broads, but to say that TofuTofu's advice lacks merit isn't applicable in the US unless you're a foreigner is rather dismissive. Not everyone who read and applied TofuTofu's advice is from Japan, mind you.

Hell, I'm an Asian foreigner in Tokyo, and I took a lot of advice from many people who also happen to be Caucasian/Black/Purple and it worked for me.

[–]EtovNowd 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I don't know if he lives in Tokyo or not, and I've never seen the guy from a physical perspective, I simply read his reports. But once I found out he was a white guy in Japan, the whole perspective changed. I never criticized him or his skills, but I point out the facts.

Not everyone who read and applied TofuTofu's advice is from Japan, mind you.

No one said they didn't, in fact I apply his mentality/beliefs myself (which are simply that of self-improvement and confidence) but to think that being white and a foreigner is not an increase in value is silly. I never criticized his merit, I simply said it's much easier to give hope to readers if the obstacle overcome is more apparent.

Hell, I'm an Asian foreigner in Tokyo, and I took a lot of advice from many people who also happen to be Caucasian/Black/Purple and it worked for me.

Well that's good, but my criticism was simply saying, yeah it's cool to get dating advice, but it's probably much cooler to get dating/social skills from someone who had none to start with and then developed on his own.

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

News to me. Dammit. That does change things

[–]Omnominable 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You just have to get into their mindset.

[+]reddixmadix -12 points-11 points-10 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Down, boy, down!

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]nostalgicBadger 34 points35 points36 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Third, we are prohibiting “seduction guides,” or anything similar, effective immediately. This material encourages misogynistic behavior and is inconsistent with our mission of funding creative works. These things do not belong on Kickstarter.

But Sarkeesian's propaganda videos and a rich woman's "fund my daughter's life" project, despite that woman publicly shaming her sons for her own personal gain, are fine? If you're going to practice censorship, at least be consistent about it.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are consistent. If it consistently offends women's feeling's, it's out.

Someone making money by shaming their own son doesn't offend women's feelings, so it's fine.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

misogynistic behavior

Only a shit eating feminist would say something like that.

[–]Mooshaq -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

God damnit, upon reading the title I was thinking that her daughter was building a rocket launcher and not a video game.

EDIT: Removed words.

[–]nostalgicBadger -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

upon reading the title I was thinking that her daughter was building a rocket launcher

I think I'd be more willing to fund that than an $850 class on using RPG Maker.

[–]p3ndulum 18 points19 points20 points 13 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how many women who likened "picking up (women) and putting (them) in your lap" to 'being raped' have picked up children against their will and put them in their lap, or tried to smother them with kisses.

[–]redpillarofdoom 22 points23 points24 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How many women have sat down on a man's lap without asking? How many women have kissed a man without asking? How many women have taken a man home, grabbed his hand and put in on her breast, or rubbed a man's penis through his jeans while making out?

Without asking for any consent? It's always assumed the man is doing the escalating and needs consent. When women escalate, the man's consent is just assumed.

It's as if these people have never even imagined how sexually aggressive women can be. It's almost puritan.

[–]p3ndulum 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're all a bunch of child-molesting rapists if you ask me.

[–]MockingDead -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least four in my FB circle

All four:

1) Is heavy into BDSM 2) Onw's BF is in jail for cheating on her with a youngin' 3) One is a socially anxious overthinker 4) One is a model who has her own galaxy's worth of orbiters.

[–]EtovNowd 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Third, we are prohibiting “seduction guides,” or anything similar, effective immediately. This material encourages misogynistic behavior and is inconsistent with our mission of funding creative works.

And yet how many women complain about men not being 'manly' or 'assertive' or 'confident', and how they stop dating 'nice guys' because those 'nice guys' weren't 'passionate' enough.

Fourth, today Kickstarter will donate $25,000 to an anti-sexual violence organization called RAINN.

Because enjoying sex is akin to rape and sexual violence. Sorry, I forgot women don't enjoy what has evolutionarily become the most enjoyable activity. Ever.

Women, and chumps, are ruining their own system. I'm glad this sub exists.

[–]pirateundies 47 points48 points49 points 13 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm so sick of this Rape Culture bullshit. All it does is justify censorship and perpetuate the demonization of male sexuality.

[–]hipsterparalegal 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You think Kickstarter or anyone else would have a problem with them supporting a new edition of Valerie Solanas' "SCUM Manifesto"? The question answers itself, right?

[–]pleasebequietdonny 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"men hold all the power in society and can't be oppressed therefore hateful attitudes and actions towards men can't be sexist"

[–]hipsterparalegal 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. That's exactly what The Cathedral would say.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Propaganda at its finest. Seems to be their latest disinformation campaign.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No shit, I was talking to a friend in a class a few days ago and we were discussing the topic of statistics people throw around that we don't believe are true. I mentioned seeing posters around my campus that something something along the lines of "1 in 2 women are sexually assaulted".

Well this middle aged woman in the class (recently divorced I might mention) apparently just heard that bit of our conversation and piped in with "That is totally true, isn't it super scary!?"

How can anyone with a functioning brain believe a statistic like that is even remotely true.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's actually from a Ms. Magazine "study", which stated that 1 in 4 college women have been raped, or suffered an attempted rape.

The study itself does not even deserve to be called such, and it's morphed in a telephone-game esque way to become 1 in 4 (or 5 or 3 or 2) women will be raped.

If 1 in 4 (or 5 or 3 or 2) women were actually being raped, it would be a really fucking obvious, huge issue.

[–]pleasebequietdonny -5 points-4 points-3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's using an extremely loose version of "sexual assault." Even getting your tittie grabbed on the train is "sexual assault". Apparently the people who perpetuate this "statistic" see no problem with lumping in gropes with violent rapes.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The bullies have found a new mark.

Expect the bullying of any ideologically impure kickstarter from this point on.

[–]telnet_reddit_80[S] 18 points19 points20 points 13 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

First, there is no taking back money from the project or canceling funding after the fact. When the project was funded the backers’ money went directly from them to the creator. We missed the window.

Or maybe it was a clever way to let the project get funding but avoid the backlash? Though I may be giving them too much credit here.

[–]Clauderoughly 17 points18 points19 points 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Bingo !

The creator got his money, and kick starter got a PR win.

Everybody wins !

[–]telnet_reddit_80[S] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Not the Kickstarter's bottom line

today Kickstarter will donate $25,000 to an anti-sexual violence organization called RAINN

[–]Clauderoughly 35 points36 points37 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol.

Kickstarter punched themselves in the wallet to appease feminists

[–]GeneralUnderpants 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They will get the money back.

[–]Rumble_in_the_Jungle 16 points17 points18 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Donations are tax deductible. Refunds are not.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Uh, what? Yeah they are.

[–]QuietlyLearning 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to believe this; I doubt this was the actual goal since they will no longer put any seduction material on the site.

[–]MockingDead 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have tried, in my foolish blue pill way, to argue for his work. Logic doesn't work

One person's argument boils down to "Boys shouldn't do anything that makes me uncomfortable"

The wolf does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

[–]yankeetiger 16 points17 points18 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Shit, man. I can't believe they just allowed feminists to roll over them like that.

"Please take our balls while you're at it, too!"

I wonder if Kickstarter would have the same reaction to a project dedicated to helping women be more attractive to men.

[–]QuietlyLearning 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anything involving makeup? I'm sure there are different projects on Kickstarter involving makeup.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is the new Christianity.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism and Christianity's moral systems both believe in and support censorship, but people (especially hipster leftist pieces of shit at Kickstarter) pay heed to feminism while considering Christianity to be irrelevant because Christianity's moral system is based on fiction while feminism is based on science (ideology, pseudo-science, misquotes, disinformation, propaganda to be exact).

Apparently the feminists here took quotes out-of-context with this author just as they did with Warren Farrell when they falsely claimed he was a date rape supporter. Feminists are the scum of the earth, highly manipulative evil sacks of excrement.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

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[–]kmker 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i did notice their staff page. i did notice.

[–]JohnnK 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks slightly less ugly than the average reddit meet-up due to the absence of obese hogs.

[–]zionController 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much beta

[–]culofiesta 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus christ, that's awful

[–]pleasebequietdonny 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

hoooooly shit did anyone else see the guy in the blue "Adventure" shirt with the uberpedostache and the Bieber hair

[–]cooledcannon 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

at least two of the chicks were pretty hot. main one being the blonde

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop raping and sexually assaulting them with your eyes, creeper! /s

[–]MrStinky 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is disgusting evidence of the zero spines amongst the collective white knights. I don't want to live on this planet anymore

[–]gprime312 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus fucking Christ. Do they have no spine at all? These fucking harpies will never stop until they get their way.

[–]chiffonade- 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5918508

the thread on HN is pretty typical. a bunch of whiteknight IT nerds screaming the M word, the majority of whom will probably call their wife to ask them permission to buy a new computer game later today.

[–]telnet_reddit_80[S] 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are a few voices of sanity but anyone who was worried that maybe game is getting too popular and increases competition can breathe a sigh of relief.

[–]RedSunBlue 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

anyone who was worried that maybe game is getting too popular and increases competition can breathe a sigh of relief.

Thank you for this silver lining.

[–]Endorsed Contributorburningtimber 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've been finding HN more and more irritating since reading this sub regularly. It's not just the whiteknighting; it's more general.

I think it's the combo of high intelligence, strong belief in "right" and "wrong", massive self righteousness, and childlike naivete.

[–]chiffonade- 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah that shit you pointed out is extremely common in the industry (i assume you're in tech as well)

it took me about a year of running a business to realize how fucking stupid-headed the typical IT attitude is and exactly why the rest of the world pretty much fucking hates us.

the fact that most IT guys are terrible with women and are extremely bluepill only adds to my self-loathing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There're some great posts in that thread, too. Feminism hasn't won yet. :)

[–]chiffonade- -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

could you link a few? i obviously didn't read 250+ comments but what i skimmed was pretty shitty

[–]grlthng10 points 13 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Below is pretty golden

This is a very touchy subject, right? I'm going to try and convey my thoughts very carefully here, so please try and be receptive. (Context for this is for your bog-standard straight courting scenario--I do not feel qualified to comment on how courting for any other gender scenario works.) ~

In an ideal world, everybody would communicate honestly and openly. You could sit down with a girl, and have a conversation like so:

"Hi, I think you're attractive and I enjoy your company. Would you be interested in pursuing a relationship, or if not, perhaps a shorter-term physical engagement?" "Yes/No/Not interested." This is, needless to say, not how 99.999% of the population works--as I, and I suspect others, have found to our dismay. Negotiating these sorts of things is not just a TCP ack sequence or something. The fact is that even were roles reversed, that is just not what we would consider a compelling user experience. Expecting explicit handshaking for every step of the relationship cycle is something only emotional robots expect. In an ideal world, the following things would be true:

  1. People know what they want in a relationship.

  2. People know how to convey what they want accurately to other people, especially in terms of arousal or courting.

  3. People are free to signal availability or interest without repercussion, and accept rejection just as easily. These three things are obviously far, far from the case.

~ There are very much conflicting cultural mores about how courtship is supposed to work. On the one hand, we have hundreds and thousands of years of precedent (and perhaps biology, though I personally hope this is not the case) suggesting that the man is the one to initiate actions, and that the woman, if disinterested, will make her rejection known. Strictly speaking, we've got a bit more barbarous history behind us than that, but let's assume decent folk here to keep life simple.

On the other hand, we've got this recent push for more explicit confirmation for consent and for the more equitable distribution of first-move-making between the man and the woman. These two things do not go together, and even worse, trying to come to a synthesis for your average inexperienced guy is a road which easily runs to ruin.

So, instead we find ourselves in this curious place where young men who mean well want to get with young women who also mean well. Unfortunately, the women are brought up expecting that the men will do the work, initiate everything, and the men are increasingly told that hey need to--to be safe and respectful, mind you!--wait for explicit confirmation of every step. In programming terms, we are setting up for a deadlock.

Perhaps even more troubling, the hilariously large impact of social networks and whatnot mean that gossip is worse than ever, and there is no room to make mistakes if you are one of these young men. Worse, media is constantly reinforcing some awful blend of these two mores, making both sides seek after a state of affairs that simply does not exist. There's some more issues I've seen, but you get the gist.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow good find, that is an awesome description

[–]mikeytown2 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Found a level headed article on this: http://esthertung.com/did-anyone-actually-read-the-reddit-post-behind-above-the-game/

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those comments and the level of aggression against Tofu are headache inducing. Someone mentioned mob mentality, and this reminded me of a scene from The Witcher. Spoilers ahead.

A small village is infested by a plague. There are ghost like dogs wandering at night. A child is seemingly possessed. People are dying everywhere. Evidently, this is a shitstorm, and it's all falling hard on the village witch.

As it turns out, their biggest problem, wasn't the witch's fault. The specter was created through the evil that the people in the village had done. The priest finds his unwed daughter pregnant? Why, send her to a whore house in the city! Random rich guy tries to kill his brother in his sleep for his money. Corrupt trader sells arms to the elves. Random guy rapes some girl, who then kills herself.

The specter that caused them all this harm was a direct consequence of their evil.

Manginas, feminazis, and uptight bitches dying miserable, fat, unfulfilled will be the direct consequence of their general idiocy. I don't believe in karma, but one can't stick a needle up one's ass and then expect to shit rainbows. Of course there will be blood, and of course it will suck. But hooray, you did it to yourself.

Those comments make me angry. I know those dickheads. I went to school with them. I am friends on Facebook with some of them. I probably walk past them down the street every day. And I hate them all. Is it so hard to say "fuck these dicks, I will think for myself"....well, I guess groupthink is definitely easier on frightened brains and fragile egos.

[–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It just pisses me off that feminists have SO MUCH fucking power in society these days (and for past decades). They pretty much have the power to censor anything they don't agree with and they know they've got maybe millions of people to back them up. There's no such thing as freedom of speech when we've got this disparity of power.

I remember just recently, they protested against one of Rick Ross's verses on a song. Rebok (which was sponsoring Ross) had to fold down because it would be terrible for their business.

I can't put all the blame on Kickstart because...well, they're still a business with financial interests. They realize the feminists hold much greater power than MRAs, so they'll fold to them no matter what.

This is why we need more MRAs and more unplugged people.

[–]LordLeviathan 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's been a really long time since I've felt genuinely "livid". This is immensely infuriating and I can only imagine how Tofu feels.

[–]16 MGaiusScaevolus 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cowards.

[–]rapscallionx 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

pretty sure kickstarter let that succubus anita sarkeesian use their service to spread a far more vitriolic and destructive message than a "how to pick up chicks" book ever could.

[–]Nutz76 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could someone post the link to the article by the guy who was doing the kickstarter? I'd like to post that in the blog's comments since a LOT of people fell for that straw man argument feminists lobbied against him and he deserves to have his side heard, which is that the quotes people had a problem with were devoid of context.

[–]bh3244 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fucking cowards

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This material encourages misogynistic behavior

Using strategies to sleep with women is tantamount to hating women.

This is feminism.

[–]thereisnosuchthing 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny because if he had called it 80 shades of off-white, girls would be wetting themselves reading it and it would be a best seller.

[–]RedSunBlue -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

...it's like they didn't even bother to look into the context of TofuTofu's comments.

This is seriously disappointing. I need a drink.

EDIT: And if you need any more proof that /r/seduction is over...

[–]n0c0ntr0l 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And this is why I don't go back to seddit anymore.

The guy is being attacked for telling guys to get a girl who is NAKED in the bed WITH THEM, to touch his cock.

If that is sexual assault I've commited a transgression almost every time I've gotten laid.

[–]zionController 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Tofu's own are crucifying him...

His advice isn't even outrageous... pretty tame compared to what I post, imo

Remind me not to publish any books in the near future

[–]RedSunBlue 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh god, this comment:

Tofutofu, please spend some of your kickstarter money on consulting with a sexual assault prevention organization (RAINN?)...they'll tell you what you need to know.

[–]zionController 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"They'll try to blue pill you into being a mangina"

Wow. Just wow. How are so many people in 2013 not red pilled.

[–]IPlayUkulele 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That post will be deleted as soon as a mod gets on. They've been doing a great job of keeping Seddit free from most of the drama. The top rated comments are from people who don't regularly post in /r/seduction, and one of them even posts in srs. It's not representative of the rest of the subreddit.

[–]JohnnK 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://np.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1gsuny/above_the_game_almost_stopped_by_kickstarter_why/canlloe

That comment. Somehow, if the guy was hot, I seriously doubt she'd have any issues with it. But she's probably a hog, so the only guys that usually interact with her are also disgusting slobs.

[–]PerfectionEmbodied 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Something interesting I noticed was the top comment makes a point to say

What's lacking in the advice given in Above the Game is the need to develop skills of empathy in order to make sure that whatever you do doesn't make people feel unsafe or violated.

And yet, it's known that women are attracted to sociopaths. And what emotion are sociopaths lacking? Empathy.

I just thought that was interesting.

[–]dreamingawake09 -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just unsubscribed from there. That place is as good as dead. Be careful, they're gonna try to go after us next.

[–]Kronouranos -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Our mods are much more strict than theirs. See all those comments basically trashing seduction on the seduction subreddit? All of those comments would be deleted within the hour, if not sooner, here.

[–]dreamingawake09 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right, I'm just been worried of this place being turned into r/seddit. Its a really cool subreddit and I want it to stay strong.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just stay on top of things. Report concern-troll posts immediately and never stop questioning and contributing.

This subreddit will do just fine by the vigilance of its users.

[–]Kronouranos 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So I'm guessing the book is still coming out since Tofu got his money? I've enjoyed almost everything I've seen from him, so I was actually looking forward to this book.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder how Kickstarter would respond when Adria Richards or that Anita Sarkeesian woman go to Kickstarter to bash the patriarchy again? If people complained, would they care?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is that a serious question? No, of course they wouldn't.

[–]rapscallionx 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

does anyone have a link to the presentation for that kickstarter? I'd like to read where it promoted violence against women. I can only imagine that they would consider removing a project if it said something along the lines of "if she says no, fuckin punch her in the fuckin face repeatedly." So i'd like to hear it straight from the horses mouth if that's indeed what was said... or kickstarter is a bunch of dickless fgts.

[–]ClemsonPoker 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was based on some out-of-context reddit posts made by the author.

[–]angelothewizard -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welp, Kickstarter's done. Bring in the censors, the SJWs, the betas, it's over.

[+]ScalpelBurn2 -6 points-5 points-4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think it was the right decision, some of the advice from that guide was pretty creepy. "Just grab the bitch even if she resists". Not a good idea.

[–]Mooshaq 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're doing exactly what the feminists, against which most of us are livid, are doing. You're taking a few lines out of context and making all these rash assumptions.

Most of the advice that the feminazi bitches quoted were for in the bedroom, when you and the girl have already both gotten naked or are about to. The other part that raised concern, "Just pick up the girl and sit her on her lap" is not to be done by every random guy to any random girl. He indicates that there needs to be a level of connection and comfort between you two. Both men and women can sometimes tell after just meeting someone that they are both diggity down to fuck ASAP. This is the case where you can just pick up the girl, because you already know she wants you to fuck her.

Stop taking shit out of context and actually read the whole paragraph/page/book. He has nine posts from his book on the sidebar of seddit.

[–]ScalpelBurn2 -5 points-4 points-3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most of the advice that the feminazi bitches quoted were for in the bedroom, when you and the girl have already both gotten naked or are about to.

Feel free to provide the context. I'm almost certain there was a "pull her on your lap even if she resists" in there that was not limited to a bedroom setting. Saying "shouldn't be done randomly" doesn't really matter - if someone is resisting your physical grabbing you should stop, period.

[–]Mooshaq 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The context in this case is the rest of the book before this part. Read parts 0 through 7 (part 7 is where this quote is from) before making any further comments. These parts are all on the sidebar of seddit.

The only point I will concede is that maybe TofuTofu could have put a disclaimer stating that this book is a bit more for people that understand social dynamics a bit and that understand boundaries. Sure, it "sounds a little rapey" to use the ridiculous diction of certain opponents of Tofu, but people like (most of) us reading it know how far we can push and where we should give the girl space. It's partly from experience and partly from common sense. Oh, and the fact that this shit works. If you've lived more than 20 years and have spent more than ~100 hours in a bar (or at house parties), you'll see this happen and women loving it.

[+]Redpillpupil -6 points-5 points-4 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

While I don't think they should have removed it and give in to self righteous feministas, can someone go over some of the lines that were highlighted from the men hate groups? Along the lines of "take her hand and put it on your dick" etc? Because imo, without a girl basically dry humping you, that's not something to do shortly after talking to a girl.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It was talking about what to do in bed while making out.

[–]Redpillpupil -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, that sounds perfectly fine. Don't know why I was downvoted though, is it that absurd to think that making a girl rub your dick shortly after meeting them, say when you're still in the bar is stupid and a good way to get a kicking?

[–]RedSunBlue 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't know why I was downvoted though, is it that absurd to think that making a girl rub your dick shortly after meeting them, say when you're still in the bar is stupid and a good way to get a kicking?

You're getting downvoted for being lazy. Use the search function, my friend.

[–]Redpillpupil -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Would that imply that everyone who asks a simple question on trp, gets downvoted?

[–]RedSunBlue 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you ask a simple question that you could easily answer yourself by using the search function, then yes.

[–]shaneford -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Any way to "donate" to Tofu now, kinda like a fuck you to kickstarter?

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