Long time lurker here, this is something I've noticed about "Strong Independent Women" on Reddit when you call women out for being materialistic cum dumpsters

redpillta · 2015-01-24T00:48:50+00:00

You mean doughy bodied retards whose hobbies include drinking wine, taking naps, and watching Netflix don't make your dick hard???

/s

throwingwater · 2015-01-24T01:06:02+00:00

Along with creep, being ugly, socially awkward and other insults, it's ironically proof of the red pill. The insults are all descriptions of low smv males instead of anything actually related to a red pill guy. They associate low smv males as terrible people and when they talk about that loser red pill guy, they have a loser beta in their head because they can't accept the fact that their perfect alpha doesn't really respect them.

drrrrrr · 2015-01-24T04:36:00+00:00

This is actually very useful. By creating a culture where women feel that it's cool to brag about sexual exploits, we've made it so that every a unperceptive dimwad can figure out whether he's dating P&D, plate, or LTR material.

If you date girls from cultures that are very honest about the fact that your SMV goes down the toilet if you slut around... guess what, you have to be a fucking Sherlock to figure out if she's a slut. It's doable, but for example, you have to really spin a few Indian chicks as plates until you learn how to accurately evaluate their real value. They are good - if you suck at reading people, you will not know that she was passed around a frat house.

I just got back from Iran where I stayed with a rich friend. A lot of the girls there from good families, the type of girls a Westerner would wife up in a heartbeat because they look like such a unicorn... are raging drugged up sluts and their parents / boyfriends / future husbands don't know. They know how to play the "female DT" strategy if you will - narcissistically indulge in all the pleasures you want and cover your tracks, then get a BB from a rich family and run his life.

Girls raised in American culture, they at least have no ability to play the deception game. They put it all out on the table with pride. It's very useful as you can then slot them promptly into ONS, plate, or LTR tiers. They say girls know within 3 seconds of seeing you whether they would fuck you. Maybe true, maybe not, but I know after 3 seconds of seeing a white chick's tinder whether she would ever have a chance at the LTR tier.

Encouraging girls to behave this way is a shit test. Alphas (in this context, alpha as in "one who understands and takes advantage of the situation") act as if it's all cool and she's a precious little rebel, fuck her, and then show her the door. It's the motion, she knows it too and she is signalling with her shit test that she is cool with it.

Betas fail the shit test in the sense that they actually believe her. They say things like "yeah man I mean I want to stick in my dick in everything, why shouldn't she fuck all these dudes. It doesn't lower her value. Yeah, deep down I think it's disgusting and I have a bad feeling about dating this girl seriously, but hey, I'm not a sexist!" So they validate the girl and make her feel OK about being open with her sluttiness. This creates a cycle where the girl acts more validated and more in-your-face about her love of DP. Alphas take advantage of the situation further and enjoy these girls on the side while never really seriously contemplating them as partners.

You have two choices. You always have two choices in any given fubar situation. You can get "ashamed" as you say and get indignant and bothered by how the game is played. You can get all butthurt about society going down the drain.

Or you can say "Thanks." Thank the girls for being honest and upfront, thank the betas for validating them and catering to their emotional needs. Thank the world, thank these girls' parents for screwing them up to the point where they need to get fucked every Friday to feel a modicum of self-esteem and desirability.

I know it doesn't seem like it, but it's better this way. Provided you're in the top 10% of guys of course.

kick6 · 2015-01-24T03:49:59+00:00

they often just call me a virgin, and ridicule me for that. Forget the fact that I lost my virginity years ago, but even if I was a virgin, would it make what I said not true?

It's a rationalization called disqualification. If they can pin a label on you that allows them to invalidate your opinion, they don't have to do any self reflection. Being a virgin or a neckbeard or living in your mom's basement are several go-to disqualifications. If you are any of the above, you "don't exist" and your opinion is null and void.

Recognize it for what it is: someone trying like all hell not to have to deal with how fucked up they actually are.

SOAADDICT · 2015-01-24T04:35:22+00:00

Personally, I think women "bragging" about their adventures on the CC is fucking awesome. The CC is female nature. Nothing new is happening here. They are just telling us about it instead of lying now. And that's fucking awesome, because I can hard next them before I've wasted any time.

ostroman1989 · 2015-01-24T11:17:14+00:00

I'm not from the anglosphere and things are substantially different (in its outer laters, not the core, although I admit it gets americanized here due to social networks and it gets this way fast)

but what I notice is that lonely girls with abnormal personality of the type that would bother with reddit to begin with tend to complain about this a lot, they use their sexuality to get men involved with them , usually high SMV men or player types who respond to this most readily and pick up the signals the fastest and chuck em right afterwards (because unlike YOU the naturally developed player has no interest in girls like this with small histories and natural players far outnumber the learned ones)

than they feel something is wrong when the guy ignores them more or less and now they have a huge mess on their hands and a lot of anxiety follows after this.

so they do what people do best and negotiate with this in their mind

than comes along some guy on the internet who deflates their ego again, what do they do? accuse him of not being relevant as a defence mechanism.

more normal girls with higher smv already know whats up and don't shoot themselves in the foot mentally if they slut it up they cover the tracks and aren't surprised when high SMV men don't like that stuff or assume it by default.

edit - tl;dr those girls who complain about slut shaming in my opinion have overall low baggage relative to their peers and probably don't really think like real CC riders deep down, ie entitled to af/BB of highest caliber, thinks shes better than you, poor executive ability, etc.

BlackFlag · 2015-01-24T06:43:00+00:00

You are still suffering from disillusionment. You are still mourning the death of the fantasy you thought was real. Eventually you should get past it.

Red Pill at its core for me isn't just about women or relationships. More importantly it is about the fact that reality is what it is whether you approve or not so you might as well as get on with the business of finding a happy fulfilled path for yourself in that reality which includes using your knowledge of the nature of that reality to your own benefit. It's about killing the male hamster and by extension, your inner beta bitch boy.

Easier said than done, I know. I struggle with it every day which is why I come here. I'm over 40 so evidently, I'm a slow learner.

Truth is no one cares about your angst or shame or whatever you choose to label your negative emotional state in response to reality - and more to the point, it won't change anything about the nature of that reality. It just makes you feel like shit and ultimately it's your choice to feel that way or not.

Embrace the suck. Move on. Good luck brother.

xiko · 2015-01-24T01:26:53+00:00

I think it is GREAT when a woman self identifies herself as a hardcore feminist or stuff like that. I will easily know that she is for pump and dump only.

I love to break the heads of some of my female friends by telling them that yeah, she can do whatever she wants, but that doesn't mean that I will fuck her or ltr her if she does that.

foodnettwerk · 2015-01-24T01:17:24+00:00

Then don't fuck or date promiscuous women. I cannot understand why some people on here get so worked up over what consenting adults, who are complete strangers, are doing with their genitals. Most men can at least appreciate a slutty woman for what she is useful for: non-committal sex.

If you went in there trying to change opinions, a little more tact might have served you well. People actually tend to respond well to trp theories when phrased in a more palatable way.

If your only goal was to insult a bunch of women you will never interact with in real life, then mission accomplished. But don't be upset or surprised that they tried to get back at you with the "virgin" comments.

TheRedPillHawk · 2015-01-24T02:22:58+00:00

From the sidebar: Shaming tactics

Basically it's a list of things women will say when confronted with a truth they are in denial about. These phrases do not have any conversational or rational merit but are aiming at damaging your confidence and temper in order to undermine your credibility.

It's also very much comparable to a child who is about to lose a boardgame and flips the board over to ruin the game for everyone. It's a sign that a person is very self-centered, immature and not able to control their emotions.

Fortunately, if you are uninvolved with a woman using this you can and should safely ignore anything she says or does in the future.

If you were involved with a woman like that, you will most likely be better off un-involving, since her out-of-control defense mechanisms will probably prevent her from ever coming to her long lost senses.

SkorchZang · 2015-01-24T04:30:35+00:00

Those shaming tactics are always the same when you dare argue with the female hive mind. About anything.

May seem like they're helpless angels who would readily listen to reason, because they want truth and beauty to prevail, but you'd be mistaken. Women compensate for their helplessness tenfold by never fighting fair, and by always surrounding themselves with false appearances to suit every circumstance.

Algermas · 2015-01-24T00:44:57+00:00

Try expressing this sentiment out in real life if you want some laughs. You'll immediately be able to identify any and all high partner count women within a 5 mile radius.

Sleeping with 50 guys by 20 isn't a problem and women will be damned if even a single man thinks otherwise.

Rush-into-the-fray · 2015-01-24T01:49:17+00:00

It is a sad state of affairs. A woman i work with proudly told me that when she got a divorce, the first thing she did was go to the bar and find some guy to fuck. The problem most men have is that, unlike women, we (fantastically) see vaginas as something more than Cum dumps. I have met women who treated their nether region as chemistry kits.

quercus_suber · 2015-01-24T00:43:49+00:00

Don't be ashamed of things that are outside of your control.

cooltrip · 2015-01-24T13:58:04+00:00

Well, strong independent women end up with the buck beta they deserve, so bad news for them, and for those betas.

Acx3 · 2015-01-24T18:12:21+00:00

They're ashamed of it as well, they just use self-deception to hide it.

cherrypoptart27 · 2015-01-24T18:14:09+00:00

I'm ashamed of the fact that I live in an era where women are now bragging about their adventures on the cock carousal. I'm ashamed of the fact that it's ridiculous for me to want a woman who actually does other things besides drinking herself half to death and fucking a new guy every week.

Oh you mean like this?

SKapper · 2015-01-27T11:23:17+00:00

Women will always want to come out as the "rejector" rather than the "rejected" from any interaction that questions their SMV.

asd1100 · 2015-01-24T09:26:18+00:00

and that I prefer women who don't pass their cunt around as often as stoners pass their bong.

dude, a bong is quite special, sharing it is significant, there have been more mouths on my dick than my bong.

Forget the fact that I lost my virginity years ago, but even if I was a virgin, would it make what I said not true?

you don't get frame do you? If she can discredit you, that is just as good as proving to the others that you are wrong, and much easier. Truth is irrelevant if it doesn't feel right.

I'm ashamed of the fact that I live in an era where women are now bragging about their adventures on the cock carousal.

well let's change society so you don't feel bad...do you see the similarity in your bitch asss self righteous attitude and the attitude of a SJW.

I'm ashamed of the fact that it's ridiculous for me to want a woman who actually does other things besides drinking herself half to death and fucking a new guy every week.

Now your are just pandering for karma and circle jerking. I want that woman, when i have a over night layover in a city, I don't want to pay hookers or waste time on tinder. I want that cheap and easy option. I actually encourage gameless pussies to get fin and go for those low hanging fruit to develop some confidence. It's like hamburgers dude, you don't have to drink it, but you have no right to want others to not drink it or argue for it being illegal.

Jesus_balls · 2015-01-24T07:38:34+00:00

You are a massive fucking faggot

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