School in Ohio suspends a 10-year-old for imitating a gun with his empty hand, thus continuing the gradual pussification of Western boys.

ProfessorD2 · 2014-03-05T07:45:43+00:00

"I'll tell you what, you do have some things to worry about when dealing with young boys, but going 'bang-bang' with a gun is not one of them. I think we've turned this into a bigger problem than it really is. The violence occurring on school campuses today does not come from playing with toy guns. It comes out of anger, frustration, and a sense of rejection. It's a response to bullying. It may reflect all kinds of things, but it most certainly does not come from giving a five-, six-, or seven-year-old a toy gun. In any case, if you don't give your boy a gun, he will probably eat a peanut butter sandwich or a cucumber or a carrot into the shape of a gun and play with that... This is just the way boys are made. Their interest in guns is like their interest in trucks and footballs and every form of competition. It's not something we need to spend a lot of time worrying about. " -James Dobson,"Raising Boys"

JP_Whoregan · 2014-03-05T07:50:47+00:00

Future hard-betas, the lot of them. We allow our male children to be essentially taught and reared by feminists in the school system from the ages of 5 to 18, then wonder why they end up sad, alone, emasculated, playing video games in their parent's basements until they're 27. These poor kids wouldn't know John Wayne or male toughness if it bit them in the ass. And you know what? Ain't their fault.

trp_que · 2014-03-05T12:26:32+00:00

I remember when I was in grade 1; my teacher called my mother to voice her concerns about me drawing scenes of tanks, military planes, and soldiers in class when we were told to draw things.

My mom's response to her was: "What do you expect? His father is in the military and he is a boy. What do you want him to draw? Flowers?" This was around 1990.

shabadiddlle-oo · 2014-03-05T13:13:44+00:00

This has way more to do with control than emasculation. Back when I was a kid, my friends were getting suspended for the same type of stupid shit. And all those principals and school administators had aggressive douchebag kids of their own who were playing football and fucking cheerleaders.

There are two types of people who work in public education: those who enjoy working with kids, and those who enjoy having a bunch of little people to boss around. The former (usually) find their way into teaching, and the latter (usually) find their way into administration. School principals are no different than angry pizza hut managers: the world has given them this tiny bit of control, and they need to exercise that control in order to give meaning to their pathetic little lives.

EmpyreanDweller · 2014-03-05T09:03:07+00:00

I actually was suspended for a similar incident when I was in 5th grade (early 2000's). The principal said I was creating fear even though my friends and I were playing a game of cops and robbers. Didn't even realize a simple act of pointing my fingers like a gun would get me in trouble until some bitch teacher ran after me. The next day, the principal called my parents and I into the office and suspended me for a day. Fuck that guy.

2comment · 2014-03-05T05:34:46+00:00

Oh joy, the 0 tolerance policy rears its head again. If Super Intendants and Principals are going to abdicate all discretion and judgement, maybe they should also abdicate their bloated six figure salaries in exchange for a salary of someone who doesn't have to make hard decisions - like a janitor or lunch lady.

Parents need to go to the schoolboard meetings and ask why they have Intolerance Policies in place. That's fucking childhood, being stupid and learning from the mistakes. Unless kids are supposed to pop out perfect from the womb. Not that hand puppetry even counts as a mistake, I can think of another hand gesture for these morons.

What gets me is this 0 tolerance shit was started by people who undoubtedly still played cowboys and indians as kids in their youth. Those fucks.

AveofSpades · 2014-03-05T08:42:33+00:00

Graduated high school about a decade ago. When there was a personal problem, some teachers encouraged that we handle it after school, off school grounds. A fist fight here, a fist fight there. Just like hockey, nature polices itself. Enough of a crowd gathers that nothing serious nor malicious would ever go down. Hell, you'd often become buds with the guy after you bounced a couple right hooks off his chin.

Today? Well now, you're obligated to call the police. Both kids take a ride in bracelets and get assault charges filed. Such bullshit. I wondered why, then I realize a critical point often brought up here: boys are no longer allowed to be boys They have few, if any, masculine examples to look up to.

Anecdotal case in point, when I visit my H.S., the same teachers we respected (our football coach/AP history prof was a 3 tour Major from Vietnam) were retired, replaced by master degree students "in education", or the cum dumpsters that trolled the campus bitching about having 8-5 shadowing work and having to keep a journal.

No wonder kids are becoming more pussy. The age of teachers with tangible experience has been replaced with the fucking idiots that chose education over communications, that use 'classroom theory' over knowing what the fuck they're actually teaching. Incidentally, a lot of the alpha male teachers I had as a student retired and have been replaced with some of the biggest fucking omega douchers I've ever met in my life.

Again, education as a whole has basically become a fall back job for anyone with a pulse to pursue if they can't get into anything else. Hence why you see so many teacher transgessions into fucking, and why those educators that actually went in for the right reasons and have intelligence are either running for the hills or plucking their hair out in a fury

poopyhitlerballs · 2014-03-05T12:57:05+00:00

GUN SHAPED CLOUD SPOTTED OVER SCHOOL. ALL STUDENTS SUSPENDED FOR 5 DAYS

kick6 · 2014-03-05T13:08:46+00:00

It will continue, and there's only one solution: don't play the game. Don't feed these fucks. Don't live in Ohio.

The saddest part: this was a level 2 imitation gun. That means there's something EVEN MORE INNOCUOUS that qualifies as a gun in their stupid rules.

ampwyo · 2014-03-05T09:38:19+00:00

I remember reading about a father who had cps called because his kid had a picture on facebook with his .22.

SonofLelith · 2014-03-05T07:41:40+00:00

There are other places where they don't do this kind of thing, in fact they do the opposite of imposing rules...they remove them with great and good effect: http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/school-ditches-rules-and-loses-bullies-5807957

While one can claim that this is "pussyfication", like other posters have mentioned; these stupid fucking people are ruining both young girls and young boys...

americnleprchaun · 2014-03-05T14:39:09+00:00

This is fucking absurdity. It's a constitutional right to bear arms, but we're chastising children for using their imaginations when it comes to firearms

ScannerSloppy · 2014-03-05T10:30:26+00:00

My boys (8 and 11) go to public school and grew up in mortal fear of what might happen to them if they made "the gun symbol" with their hand. My oldest had a classmates mother CALL THE POLICE on a fourth grader over vague accusations of "bullying". Yeah, there is definitely an element of cuntocracy in public schools these days. To learn traditional male values and identity, a good place for boys is Boy Scouts of America. They won't learn to be men in public school, that's for sure.

Satchmo84 · 2014-03-05T13:50:23+00:00

Ahh, Zero Tolerance, the rallying cry of the lazy, unaccountable administrator. The policy that says "It doesn't matter if the school dropout slugged the Valedictorian candidate, technically they were both involved in a fight and so they both get a suspension. Never mind that this is a completely irrelevant punishment to the drop out and that the Valedictorian will actually lose grade points for his missed attendance, if we were to actually examine each situation on a case by case basis, that would take WORK."

When I was in middle school in the mid 90's, my school had a similar policy. One particular incident, a couple of older kids decided to harass me and throw rocks at me. After attempting to flee in the view of teachers, yelling to them what was happening, and getting hit with several rocks, I finally turned on one of my aggressors, only drawing the interest of a teacher as I was literally stomping on his face. When the school attempted to suspend me the same amount as the people THROWING ROCKS AT ME, she gave the vice principal an earful as well as the principal. When that yielded no results, she phoned the school board, before finally getting through to the superintendent with a threat that if this was not made right, there was no point in her son restraining himself, and next time I would be told to hurt them severely seeing as it didn't matter what I did. My suspension was reduced to 1 day while theirs was 3, and the one other time that same group tried to harass me, you bet your ass the teachers did their fucking jobs and intervened this time.

I know it's not as ludicrous as "making your fingers into the shape of a gun", but the point of my venting is Zero Tolerance is fucking retarded. Someone earlier mentioned George Carlin, I believe a part of that skit is him talking about Zero Tolerance for domestic violence, and he asks, well what if you come home, and your wife has already drowned two of your children in the tub, and she's working on the the third, can you hit her to save the child?!? Nope, no, zero tolerance, sorry. Fuck. That.

maxrexcarpe · 2014-03-05T14:49:41+00:00

"Liberals want to ban toy guns. Are they going to try to ban the thumb and forefinger next?" - Rush Limbsugh

TRPsubmitter · 2014-03-05T15:10:44+00:00

"level 2 look alike firearm."

Uh, is this Trigun where his arm literally turns into a giant gun or something?

Zero tolerance policies are to blame. They're terrible. But the basis of those policies are the decrepit and broken culture that is America. Where entitlement means anytime you are offended or not "feeling" appreciated, you can sue school districts, businesses and the gov't for recompense.

American culture enables, anoints and even beatifies those who are "victims" and are "offended". And it comes down to lawsuits/money and how figuratively "fat and happy" the West is.

Cross_of_Coronado · 2014-03-05T14:59:10+00:00

I really can't stand, hearing the words "inappropriate" and "offended" anymore.

Jesus, we could bring toyguys into school back in my days (the late 80s, early 90s) in my school in Austria and it was not a problem. It would be a bigger deal today, but still you would NOT get banned for three days. I guess a teacher would take the toygun away from you and give it back to you after school.

Guano- · 2014-03-05T05:12:09+00:00

It's not just the 'pussification' of boys in schools. I've read plenty of stories of girls being punished for ridiculous child like behavior. Both genders are being attacked and formed, boys more yes, but girls as well.

This is the shaping, just like previous generations, of children through the mindset that authority is 100% in the right and not to challenge it or you will be punished.

magx01 · 2014-03-06T09:33:44+00:00

The war on boys continues.....So sad.

[deleted] · 2014-03-05T08:30:23+00:00

Another example of pure idiocy reigning supreme. And even more disturbing is the masses that just go along with it..

Popular-Uprising- · 2014-03-05T14:58:25+00:00

I'm of two minds about this.

Bad: These moronic people in the school administration institute zero tolerance policies so that they can't be held accountable for their actions and because they want to indoctrinate the children into being afraid of the tiniest mention of guns or violence. These kids are being punished for harmless actions that hurt nobody and the administration should be fired for being this dumb.

Good: Kids aren't stupid. They are learning that their teachers and administrators are dumb as hell and zero tolerance policies are pointless. This instills a healthy disrespect for the school authority and authority in general that will serve them well as they grow older.

[deleted] · 2014-03-05T11:49:37+00:00

I hope they will look elsewhere

GoGreenGiant · 2014-03-05T13:48:23+00:00

Great, this school is in the city I live in.

I really am surprised. This isn't a suburb, this is the kind of city school system that has old buildings, issues, poor academic performance, and where you move to the suburbs when you have kids. (Big generalization there, not not fair to some areas and schools in the city). I did a couple week volunteer thing and was only told to fuck off once, lol, but this was a neighborhood with boarded up houses about as prvelant as occupied ones. This is not a "bad" neighborhood where this school is.

I don't know what the alternative school has to do with it, but I wonder if there aren't more behavioral issues going on. Another article states they had a problem with this same thing (kids being kids?)

Sad to see this close to home, gross over reaction on the part of the school.

Kepaso · 2014-03-05T14:25:44+00:00

boys will be boys

1. used to express the view that mischievous or childish behavior is typical >of boys or young men and should not cause surprise when it occurs.

Not any more i guess...

Cross_of_Coronado · 2014-03-05T15:00:10+00:00

On the bright side, I'll fuck so many 18years old girls when i am 50, just because 90 % of young males will be pussies.

FruitNyer · 2014-03-05T15:12:22+00:00

I almost got kicked out of school for a paper gun as well. I was in the 2nd grade. I was quite impressed by my paper folding skills but they told me I wasn't allowed to do that. Paper guns were how my friends and I played cops and robbers in my previous school. So in case anyone was wondering why kids don't play cops and robbers anymore, this is it. Oh and yes it was a female teacher.

FNG_USMC · 2014-03-05T15:17:39+00:00

If Western men knew our power and weren't afraid of using it wed have the situation whipped in about a week.

mabden · 2014-03-05T15:19:31+00:00

I remember way back in kindergarten, the classroom had a large set of wooden building blocks. Us guys would use the longer pieces as rifles and run around the room at play time "shooting" each other among other sundry behavior. FWIW, it was one of the more memorable activities I have of my introduction to public school.

mctoasterson · 2014-03-05T15:58:02+00:00

Boys have always fashioned play weapons. Before there were automatic handguns, children fashioned revolvers or rifles. Before that, toy swords or axes. The children of cavemen probably fashioned toy clubs.

That this is somehow unacceptable behavior these days is patently ridiculous.

DataEast1 · 2014-03-05T16:03:00+00:00

I was kicked off the swim team in 7th grade (05) for flipping off my friend under water. We were just joking around and one of the pregnant coaches got her hormones in a bunch and overreacted. Looking back on the stupid shit I got suspended for I realize how ridiculous it is. Back then, I felt bad and thought I was a bad kid.

In 9th grade Spanish I mentioned how a word on the board looked like it said "sex" and I got an S-1 form sent to my parents.

Grainslol · 2014-03-05T17:22:02+00:00

The bigger issue is that we need more behavior health and counseling at school so we can look at the root cause of why this child is acting out and being disruptive.

It's because of testosterone. It pulled through for us when you and me were hungry or going to war.

[deleted] · 2014-03-05T18:05:27+00:00

Look out! He's got a finger!

GayLubeOil · 2014-03-05T18:12:39+00:00

Sorry I stole your link lol

Ocolus_the_bot · 2014-03-05T22:16:27+00:00

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theultimatewarriors · 2014-03-11T03:26:59+00:00

Hahahaha. But that's just it! Getting kicked out of the place that tells you how you're supposed to act is actually rewarding the reverent. It's sending him down the path of do or die which is what makes or breaks a man. He will either educate himself, or he will fall. He can be a leader, or noise for the free world. Serve them, or lead them, but don't divide them.

Society running it's course perfectly

mercuryg · 2014-03-05T13:43:44+00:00

Ridiculous

smallpoxinLA · 2014-03-05T08:02:30+00:00

We have here the classic stuff from the baby boomers, those parasites were able to enjoy the best period of pretty much all human history and now they ruin everything to make sure nobody will ever enjoy what they enjoyed. those teachers, intendants, principals, school board members should ALL be executed, not put to jail, they would find a way to still pollute the society with their twisted ideas. I'm really convinced that those people have a mental deficiency, I'd like to talk to them but I would punch them so bad. I refuse to have kids in the US because of that, I know that one day I would destroy the fucking face of one of those fuckers.

Nicolay77 · 2014-03-05T20:20:25+00:00

Well, I have the impression that guns are pussified weapons.

He should imitate clubs, hammers or swords. They require a lot more skill to be used than guns.

Edit: proof

misanthropeguy · 2014-03-05T16:14:21+00:00

There is always 2 sides to every story. So it seems that the pointing fingers/making gun thing was told to stop at the school but the kids kept pushing it. That little boy looks like the sort of kid who would keep going even after being asked to stop. Pointing is rude, I'd tell my kid not to do it personally. Anyway, the father looked like a moron to me, the way they keep repeating 'I don't understand it' over and over pretty much proves that to me, and since it was a gun shape the kid made, the father knows *instant 6 o'clock news".

That said, there is an infinite amount of things that the father can teach his kid in those 3 days. Modern schooling is babysitting, nothing more, and this is a great excuse to take your boy camping, for example, something man to man, teach him some fucking life lessons. He is 10 years old, he shouldn't be doing childish things like pissing his obviously hyper-sensitive liberal teachers off. And if he does tell him to own up to it, not keep saying "I don't understand it! Why me? I didn't do nothing wrong! Waaah" no, fuck that, own up to it son. You pushed your whiney moron teachers to the point where they suspended you.

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