Seeing misandry everywhere is getting to me.

HumanSockPuppet · 2014-06-12T08:35:04+00:00

What you need to realize is that broad social acceptance of misandry is a game which is being played on a scale larger than you. Depending on your age, the social battle was likely turning against men long before you arrived on the scene.

You cannot fight it with indignation. You cannot hope to reverse it by letting it anger you. In fact, becoming angry is disastrous to your personal agenda. By speaking out, you will make yourself an easy target.

What, then, is the solution? The 38th Law of Power: Think as you like, but behave like others.

This is where the true test of your learned sociopathy will come into play. You must be willing and able to speak like the people you hate. Even if you don't ape their platitudes word for word, you must make your own ideas palatable enough for them to swallow, lest you reveal yourself as an outlier and adversary.

What you're experiencing is normal. But you must embrace this as an opportunity to become hard and unfeeling, and to act with stoic resolve in accomplishing your own goals.

RedPope · 2014-06-12T08:20:35+00:00

Do you frequent gay bars? No. You're not their audience. Mainstream media is no different. You are not their audience. Turn it off.

Don't seek out videos or blogs. You are not a culture warrior. You're just a guy trying to have a good life. Yes, there is injustice out there, but you're not going to solve it. Delete the bookmark. Unsubscribe. Tune it out.

Treat hardcore feminists the same way you would a holocaust denier. Doesn't really matter if they're right or wrong, they are a party-ending landmine. You don't poke the landmine. You avoid anything that might trigger those unpleasant, fun-killing topics. Excuse yourself and go mingle with the cool kids.

SpinalArt · 2014-06-12T06:15:04+00:00

I really feel that all this rift between men and women is driven wider by media and extreme messages on both sides of the fence. The reason why we see this more and more after taking in red pill information is because what you focus on expands. Once you back out you'll see that in the real world most people (men and women) have common sense and are open to hearing the struggles that both genders go through.

Another problem is that the source of pain and frustration prior to the red pill is not women but ourselves. The lack of boundaries and emotional health made us attract predatory women who are just as emotionally unhealthy. Red pill is part of the process to shed light on the error your past ways and this stage of anger towards women is normal but this will pass and when you become emotionally healthy and boundary strong you will see that things are not as "bad" as they seem.

themanfromsaturn · 2014-06-12T06:00:14+00:00

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kingjerksupreme · 2014-06-12T09:29:13+00:00

Red pill, atheist, & libertarian/austrian economics… I don't advertise these labels. I don't need the validation… I am reserved when it comes to expressing my views. Some people can't function without bullshit & will violently oppose you… Besides, the teacher will appear when the student is ready… Bullshit is the glue of our society - George Carlin…

SneakyTouchy · 2014-06-12T11:14:03+00:00

This is transcendence into an upper class. It's like the experience of separation between "I" and the automatic "myself," or the mastery of a sport, or being top dog with anything.

You're peeping your head over the clouds discovering a system for what it really is, seeing what can be mastered. Those people still floating in the clouds have no idea what you understand. They can't comprehend it. They are afraid of it.

I've been in the phase you're in, not just with women but many other analogous stages of life. What was once wondrous becomes understood. Things that were fun become boring. I used to tear apart my cars and put engines and body kits on them, rebuild pieces and rig up silly circuits. After many years of working as a technician, I got bored and started to think poorly of those types of people; putting colored convoluted tubing over every hose, slamming their cars so low they can't turn without blowing their fenders out, or the horrifying "California lift" where kids would literally heat their I-beams and bend them. It really bothered me how stupid people are, but eventually I got over it.

Look at how many people extended their end game, like whoever runs Pep Boys. They pump out so many bullshit products only because they know there are a ton of young men in that "dumbass" stage. Those guys aren't just profiting from it, they are luring men into that stage. For some, those stages end where higher stages begin. Where you are now is like where I was when I thought to myself, "Why did I waste all that money and time on that car? It's just a rusty piece of shit." The same thought crossed my mind with a few women.

Well eventually you will get bored looking back at how ugly things were and use this knowledge to play in new ways. There is a lot of good advice in here.

Marsupian · 2014-06-12T10:29:24+00:00

I've always been aware of misandry, and felt the sting of it often

Dude there is a reason nobody cares about the feelings of guys. The world is a tough place, if you let yourself get upset by words you should man the fuck up. Accept that things are unfair and appreciate it for what it is. You might think it's fucked up that a girl can get away with almost anything while guys get fucked left and right. You might think it's unfair that guys get turned into pussies by the media and shamed into beta hood.

You know what? It is unfair, but we have the better deal here. With the added accountability comes more agency and responsibility. With the harsher treatment of the boy comes a stronger man. With the shaming and shit testing comes an opportunity to create boundaries and show the world your masculinity.

Every shit test is an opportunity to display the world you are a man. It's a moment to enjoy. Feminism is one big shit test to society, it's also the greatest opportunity for males everywhere to display their unmoved manliness and stoic personality.

At the moment you are not, at the moment you are failing. You are not unmoved, unphased and slightly amused. You are angry. You got influenced. You failed the shit test from society.

When society tells you you are worthless, when it shames you into beta hood. When someone brings up a feminist topic you don't get angry. You don't kick back. You agree with that shit. You don't go out of your way to agree with it but your stance is "yes, I'm for equal opportunity for everyone" or "I'm for equality."

You never fucking discuss this shit. You say A (meaning you comply to social norms and show everyone you are a social savvy and adapted person) while you do B (meaning you do set boundaries, you don't let people walk over you and you don't get shamed into never displaying your sexual desires out of fear of being called a creep or rapist etc.).

Learn to love the double standard. Learn to love the fact that women give up their accountability and place it onto you. Learn to love the AFBB situation (be the first, not the later) and learn to love shit tests as an opportunity to show the world and yourself that you are a man.

In the end that is what all this shit comes down to, women and society testing your boundaries giving you an opportunity to grow as a person.

I'm finding myself steering conversations toward red pill issues to probe others to find out their leanings, and to provoke arguments.

Stop this shit immediately. In this world it's not about being right or wrong. What you say is not important. Language is usually not used to discuss rational ideas or factual topics (at least not in social settings).

Language in social settings should be used to get ahead. This means always complying to social norms (most importantly always keep up an opportunity of deniability). Never cross social boundaries. Now within those boundaries you say things to get ahead. You charm, you persuade, you imply, you manipulate and all with a goal in mind (usually create social power). You have to develop a bit of sociopathy. Understand that it's not about what you say but the underlying meaning and the goal behind that.

Gstreetshit · 2014-06-12T16:29:10+00:00

I know a group of internet warriors that just started a campaign to destroy SJWs on Twitter by agreeing and amplifying their hashtags to the even more absurd. They hope that by doing this and pushing the SJWs to even further extremes that people will start to see the idiocy. They are also actively dividing them up and pitting them against one another. They are literally infiltrating them to destroy them.

They kind of make me want to help.

In their words, todays wars are information wars. Information and the manipulation of it by way of propaganda. They are going to divide them and drive them to their logical extreme conclusion and hopefully destroy them in the process.

If you want to help in this disinfo/propaganda campaign let me know.

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-06-12T16:58:38+00:00

When I bought my car, I loved it..it was awesome...but I started seeing my car fucking EVERYWHERE!

Even a friends car which is a Cube...unusual looking car, except I see it fucking everywhere now. When your eyes are open to something or you experience something new, you start seeing it everywhere. It's how the world and our brains work. It's probably an evolutionary / survival thing if we wanted to get down to it.

2014-06-12T21:28:57+00:00

I don't get annoyed by this anymore. You bet I did at 19, but at 29, no fucking way. All women have to turn 35.

Look, you need to accept right now that from the day they grow breasts through their sexual prime, until the point where they start to show their age (anywhere from 27 to 35 depending on their health, genetics, fitness, etc), women will be the highest status thing around. An attractive woman at 22 is the highest value commodity on the market, end of story. Other than men who are several standard deviations about the norm in SMV, no one is matching hot women in terms of societal worship.

Yes, a pretty girl doesn't have to lift a finger and will always get positive feedback no matter how shitty of a person she is. This is the way it will always be, since men are always going to be in status competition to get women, and women will always be in the position of choosing. (Unless you crack a high level of SMV, then you become a selector as well).

And then they turn 35. Women lose their selective power, they lose their special treatment, they may be able to get a dick, but they can't get commitment or a ring to save their life. The women who were on top of the game have to swallow the bitterest pill of all - that they were never pursued, loved, treated specially, and pedestalized because their personality or personhood was worth anything. They were pursued, privileged, and pedestalized because they looked hot, either because of genetics, their fitness, or their make-up / dress, or in the case of a truly attractive woman, all 3. And now, with that fading, with the one thing that raked in special treatment / validation now dying a little bit every day... they are probably going to live for 50-60 more years and they will never be able to get that same feeling.

That is a bitter pill to swallow and that is why most women don't swallow it. Which only tortures them more. On some level, I feel bad for these women because biology / society essentially grooms them into becoming people who are incapable of swallowing bitter pills and confronting hard truths about reality.

So when you get bitter about anything misandry related, just remember - All women have to turn 35. High SMV women get the top spot from ages 18-25, and then can cling to that spot maybe until 30 with the right moves. High SMV men can also have the top spot during their youth, and they are set up for a steady climb throughout their life if they keep growing their resources, status, and game.

RedBigMan · 2014-06-12T12:08:50+00:00

You're probably in the angry/bitter phase of TRP. It's supposed to be a phase you go through on the way to accepting the way things are and exploiting the status quo.

You do not have to sacrifice much by applying TRP principles. Though I will say some 'female friends' tend to make guys orbiters. You'll have to reevaluate those relationships and ensure you aren't being a time ho.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-06-12T17:37:09+00:00

I'm finding myself steering conversations toward red pill issues to probe others to find out their leanings, and to provoke arguments.

The Scene: We met an entire team of feminists and manginas to discuss my ADD son and the psychologist really took the cake. This "guy" (really stretching the definition) had more estrogen than my wife, weighed approximately 93 pounds (soaking wet) and had never lifted anything larger than a notebook.

My Shit Test: I started talking about how my wife was in control and whatever we decided she would have to approve and then asked the psychologist: "So that is the way it is supposed to be? If momma aint happy then nobody is happy, right?"

The hamster wheels in the room almost started smoking- of course every member of the team except the psychologist was a woman- while the mangina/pschologist managed to cough out (while nervously glancing around the room): "Well that is one way to look at it, but not always, you know."

Yah, I know.

Villaintine · 2014-06-12T05:46:09+00:00

If you're new to TRP in particular and the manosphere in general then I'd say it's absolutely normal to have those feelings. If they are bothering you to a degree that they are causing dysfunction in your life as you slowly adjust to reality then you should find healthier outlets to relieve the urges. This (along with becoming more aesthetically pleasing and general health improvement) is a reason TRP advocates lifting- it's tremendous for stress relief.

Search posts at r/askTRP and I'm sure you'll find many posts similar to yours. If necessary check some of the MGTOW sites and take a vacation from vag and focus on you completely. It's a bitter pill to swallow.

rico_montoya · 2014-06-12T08:19:40+00:00

I'm finding myself steering conversations toward red pill issues to probe others to find out their leanings, and to provoke arguments.

Show don't tell. Wherever you're at now physically, throw a mean protein laced, clean diet combined with hardcore gym regiment in for 3 months. You'll experience the difference in how everyone treats you.

Exactly_what_I_think · 2014-06-12T10:13:11+00:00

It's a shit test. Men are disposable.

80/20 rule. Are you the top 20% to pass on there genetics?

The good news is it's not a fight to the death. Now even the most basic of RedPill (Not allowing your self to be disposable) will set you above average.

53Pirate · 2014-06-12T10:55:10+00:00

Take a break from reading/talking/thinking about it. Go build or conquer something. Revisit the topic when you are feeling better.

2014-06-12T11:48:29+00:00

That's no different from people that see misogyny everywhere. And it's just as flawed.

Most people can barely organize a thought much less communicate thoughts well.

It's good to pay attention. Just don't ascribe motive to much of what you hear.

Johnny10toes · 2014-06-12T13:35:47+00:00

You can inject thoughts into some conversations but it's usually best to see it and walk away. For instance my cousin will post shit to her wall and i might say "what is this misandry?" Or she may say "blah blah men are so blah blah blah" and I'll say "then why are you always looking for one?" The usual response to it is lol or teehee.

So unless it's directly disrespecting you it's best to ignore. You'll get into an argument with them and we don't argue with women.

hohamocha · 2014-06-12T20:05:32+00:00

Use that anger to fuck as much women as you can in the rough sex. That's what I did. Use it to your advantage. Anger and rage are chiefly masculine. Do not be ashamed of being a man, embrace it.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-06-12T12:22:11+00:00

Here you go OP, watch this clip from the sci-fi They Live

Just replace "aliens" with "feminists"

LukeMooney · 2014-06-12T12:35:47+00:00

Yeah. Somewhere after the initial "swallowing" and before being able to see code on the walls and fly around on god mode, everyone has some bitter and twisted phase somewhere in the middle.

Having mostly left the bitter and twisted phase, I'd be reluctant for you to try and avoid it, as I think there is some merit in being that way (for a period of time). Just do your best to stay positive, and you'll be fine when you come out the other side.

Bakkie · 2014-06-12T14:55:13+00:00

You can try two things. After any assessment or judgement mentally add the phrase " all the time , no exceptions". See if the statement makes sense to you.

Particularize. Nothing pertains to "all women" or "all men".

icyhot39 · 2014-06-12T15:12:52+00:00

I'm in a similar place as you. I'm an atheist with many religious friend, and I'm frustrated by the misandry. I don't agree with the idea of mimicking those who would do us harm through misandry. Do what is right. Realize that you won't/can't convince others to your view. Occassionally you can get in a wise word or two, but mostly it's not worth the effort. This holds for atheism and TRP.

I've found that my religious friends are still great people. I just avoid religious topics (and so do they since they know I'm not religious). You can try to do similarly on misandry topics, but it won't be easy. Realize this, DON'T ARGUE. My father basically converted me from feminism to TRP by simply not agreeing and not arguing. His dissent got me thinking about my assumptions and I searched out material on my own.

121895 · 2014-06-12T16:06:43+00:00

If you lift and build gains you will find a path to happiness. Wheymen.

2014-06-12T16:16:03+00:00

Hey I alienated people too when I set boundaries. You'll regret not doing so more than doing so. I felt the same way. But the way I see it, at the end of the day, they're just words and ideas thrown at you. But the ideas that you throw out as a consequence of what you CHOSE to internalize actually has a far greater impact on your own psyche.

Teaching yourself discipline will help you deflect these negative thoughts. Instead of acknowledging feminism, you can dismiss it and go about your day focusing on making yourself happy. Try doing the 10 day mental diet. I'm doing it right now. It's tough; especially in the morning before work when I haven't had any coffee.

kick6 · 2014-06-12T19:03:02+00:00

Anger is part of the process. At some point, you're going to have to learn to accept the world as it is, seek to change the things you can (yourself) and let go of what you can't (everyone else).

MajorMid · 2014-06-12T20:04:07+00:00

One of the things that has helped me when I feel like this is knowing that it doesn't matter if a woman hates you or looks down on you. I always think in my mind "I am superior to that chick".

Women in todays society are playing a mans game. They want all this "equality" and to compete with men in men things. But at the end of the day that's a losing battle for them...there is not one woman I see walking around that is physically stronger than me....more coordinated than me....will make a better decision than me...a better leader than me. All the misandry and brainwashing in the world won't change that fact.

eccentricrealist · 2014-06-12T06:51:49+00:00

Yeah, it's pretty funny. Women always claim superiority but imagine if a guy said "Men are smarter than women" or something. Shit would hit the fan. Feminism used to stand for equal rights, I recognize that, but it's been molded into misandry and lived long past its usefulness. You're not alone in what you feel, and you will see it everywhere, but try not to discuss it in real life unless it's with one of your closest friends, lest you want to find yourself arguing for hours.

craylash · 2014-06-12T14:00:49+00:00

I used to like Parks and Recreation before TRP.

30 Rock's pretty sweet still, Liz Lemon is a wonderful caricature of a 3rd Generation Feminist trying to have it all and failing.

Esminia · 2014-06-12T07:56:24+00:00

To comfort you, look around you from a new angle. Try imaginating the world seen from a black person, a immigrant or a woman. Stereotypes and offensive messages are everywhere, for pretty much everyone. Well it's not really something to comfort you, but you got the point I hope

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