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Study Finds Women DO Prefer Taller Guys to Feel Safe and Protected

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[–]blazingblue16 85 points86 points87 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

As a short guy... WE FUCKING KNOW. Every day we wake up and look around, we know we're short and it's a disadvantage. It's been like that since elementary or it's been like that since puberty.

I'm still going to try and make the most money I can. I'm still going to dress as nice as I can. I'm still going to practice stoicism, deep voice and amused mastery. I'm still going to lift like a spartan.

I'm going to stand as tall as I can and not take shit from people.

I'm not going to roll over and die just because you mofos get laid more often; I accepted the fact that I'm short a long time ago.

I also don't care to compare my height or notch counts with other people because it is not relevant to my well being.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As a short guy... WE FUCKING KNOW. Every day we wake up and look around, we know we're short and it's a disadvantage. It's been like that since elementary or it's been like that since puberty.

I'm still going to try and make the most money I can. I'm still going to dress as nice as I can. I'm still going to practice stoicism, deep voice and amused mastery. I'm still going to lift like a spartan.

I'm going to stand as tall as I can and not take shit from people.

I'm not going to roll over and die just because you mofos get laid more often; I accepted the fact that I'm short a long time ago.

I also don't care to compare my height or notch counts with other people because it is not relevant to my well being.

Right on. As an average sized man I cosign with all of that. Despite the fact that tall guys and naturals have a few advantages over me, I'm not going to lie victim and accept my spot on the pecking order. You can only not improve when you're dead.

And besides, the best natural I knew was 5'7/5'8, took shit from no one, and pull some awesome shit with women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being average leaves you with no positives but no negatives either. The upside to this is that you can focus on cultivating other aspects of yourself

[–]the_depressioning 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Charles Manson was a 5'2 hobo, and he had a cult of women who worshipped him.

Oral story-telling (parables especially) + confidence are the two most important social skills to master. I'd argue that it's more powerful than status or wealth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4uT6ou_ZGw&

[–]anarchopianist 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude it's not about confidence just bitch on tumblr about tall priviledge, bitches love victim complexes /s

[–]lothar52 39 points40 points41 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In other news, the sky is blue.

[–]cagethepepper 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More at 11.

[–]ajswdf 38 points39 points40 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

My first two thoughts:

  1. What a surprise...

  2. When men don't like fat women it's a tragedy, when women don't like short men nobody gives a single fuck.

[–]widec 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And one of those variables you can change.

I gotta hand it to them though, weight change is possible but it's fucking tough. I wonder if it's more difficult to lose or gain weight.

[–]charlie_bodango 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Lose, in today's society. Gain, when food was labor intensive to produce and scarce. In the middle ages, the average European would spend something like 1/3 of their income on food.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He meant gaining LEAN weight. Which is hard as fuck. I still spend about 1/3 to 1/2 of my paycheck on food.

[–]charlie_bodango 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh. Then genetics. I can put on muscle like its no tomorrow (and fat and it's hard for me to lose weight). And we all know those dudes that eat fast food and drink all the beer, and can't gain a pound.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That last part has very little to do with genetics and is mostly (or all) under/overestimating calorie intake.

Genetics has little impact on gaining or losing weight (not talking about fat vs muscle, just overall mass).

[–]6TLaRm4g 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't really understand what did you mean by 1/3. Where I live, Eastern Europe, people often spend 1/2 of the income on food, maybe only recently when some started to get more income it dropped to 1/3. And it's hard to gain weight. For comparison, a burger in McDonalds here costs ~2 hours worth of work, so even spending 100% of income on burgers you would not only not become fat, but actually would still be hungry at the end of the day. Good thing we have potatoes.

[–]charlie_bodango 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously? I spend about 5% on food. Rent is 50-75% though.

[–]loddfavne 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's because when the women are fat, you can't blame them for eating too much. Society is clearly to blame. While if a man is too short, it's his own fault for not growing tall enough. (sarcasm)

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fuck off, mate. There's nothing we short men can do about our height. We'll just have to Vegeta it.

That means being angry all the time, and holding frame like badassmotherfucker.

Fuck kakarot.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck kakarot

At 5'7 (and a half damnit), this is my new mantra.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn right.

[–]Olipyr 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it may work with the women, but it just pisses us manmores off. Then, we just look down and remember, we are taller than you.

[–]machimus 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No surprise there. That's been anecdotally true for a long time. I may not be tall, but damn am I glad I'm not short. I really respect short guys that can run successful game, it's got to be hard mode.

[–]ButterMyBiscuit 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Same. I'm 5'10" and seeing the massive advantage the 6'+ dudes get just makes me thank god I'm not less than 5'8". It takes a real solid game to make it work.

[–]damnyouresickbro 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah some girls actually have really concrete views about it. I'm 6'1" -6'2" and I'm talking to a girl that said that's the perfect height even though she's only like 5'5". She told me she wouldn't date a guy 5'11" or shorter and if she did he'd have to be amazing. Didn't really hit me how much height mattered til then.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since she's the only woman in existence with a vagina, men 5'11" and shorter are all heartbroken.

Seriously, though, who cares what they say. I love being friends with women and hearing their tales of dating woe. All of them have that tall preference, but tall men with shit game get shut down so predictably fast it's hilarious. Yet men below their supposed cutoff who work on their looks and game expose them for the liars they are.

[–]HitlersCow 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm of similar height. It's easy to be a wallflower when all my friends are 6'1-6'4.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"study confirms: water is wet"

[–]Gfresh405 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And the sky is blue. More at 11.

[–]RPanarchist2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

heh, you beat me to it

well played

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Grainslol 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

6'3 here. Also took it for granted. One Edit: Two of my best friends who are ~5'8 are role models of mine. They get the advantage on developing character first. Seriously. This is a david and goliath situation where you assume david has the disadvantage, but he doesn't. Seriously you short guys who hold your frame well have my respect. Don't ever feel limited/scarce in your resources. You're men.

[–]key402 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm only 5'6-5'7 and I've had to live with being just about the shortest male my entire life - as a toddler to adulthood. Every short guy is constantly aware and reminded of the implications of being short. How I would describe it, is it's kinda like being looked upon as a fat-ass, but there is no amount of work you can put in to change it. So eventually you just learn to live with it, and accept that in every woman's mind they will always see it as a major deficiency in you (status, protection, attractiveness, etc).

At this point in my life it doesn't really bother me as much. I wish I was taller and I wish I had a bigger dick, but I know nothing will change that. I recognize that I have a nice body and an attractive face, and I use it to the best of my abilities. I've fucked a lot more attractive women than the majority of tall guys I know, so in my mind I just remind myself that despite the lack of height, I'm doing pretty well for myself...and there are a lot of tall guys who despite their advantage, are so lame they still can't get laid, so that also gives me some encouragement.

[–]skimdit5 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

These worked wonders for my old roommate who was good looking but short: http://www.increasingshoes.com

[–]Muhguul 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same height as you, and you're right. As long as you play your cards right you can make the best of the situation. I don't notice any negative responses to my height from women, but I'm certainly not getting the extra attention for being tall. Oh well, nothing I can do.

[–]watersign 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

same height. one thing that stuck out to me was that for women to view men in the 5'4-5'7 height range to be equally attractive as men who were 5'9-62' was that we had to earn over $250,000 a year..fucking ridiculous. my dad is like 6 foot and i tell him this and his response is always "in the 70s when i used to go to clubs i saw tons of short guys talking up the pussy" ...yeah okay dad..im sure short guys back then were just slaying left and right.

[–]1whatsazipper 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"Wow, he's tall!" - bonus

"He's taller than I am" - neutral

"He's as tall as I am" - penalty

"He's shorter than I am." - heavy penalty

Women make the judgement using relative measurements. They are not equipped with measuring sticks, so take any claim about size or height with that in mind.

[–]heist_of_saint_graft 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Beauty of that is your dick is always bigger than hers too. ;)

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[–]Olipyr 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh god damn! What the actual fuck!

[–]1whatsazipper 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol, be proud even if you have a micropenis!

[–]TLAdaptD 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

My friend is a 6'4" 194 pound top heavy broad shoulder bold jaw line deep voice Asian male among his group of ~5'9" male close friends. There is a stark difference in terms of masculinity judged by sole first impressions. Ever since he started working out 3 years ago, and start dressing very nice, he just completely fucking stands out among everyone. Paired with his height, it's like the 1% amongst the bottom 20% when we are all together.

Started paying attention towards the passing girls when we're on the streets, and I would constantly see quick glances of mostly Asian girls at my friend. He's about a foot taller than the average Asian girl, and I can tell by so many of their faces that they would fuck him in an instant. Looking up at his manliness amongst the short chumps around him. Makes girls want him ever so much more.

So fucking jealous of him, but what can I do...

[–]chill_geddy 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is he cung lee from blood sport by any chance?

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[–]sway_usa 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I hope this is sarcasm. If not, though, you are in the right place to learn how to be better. If you were tall, solid game, and in great shape, you'd be killing it.

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[–]sway_usa 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just by taking this step, you are in the 20%. Keep approaching, get better, lift weights, all the typical advice in this sub is great. Eventually you will get used to the fear of rejection (it never goes away, at least not 100%).

You are starting on the path to a great life.

[–]icallmyselfmonster 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the department of No Shit Sherlock.

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[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fucking ridiculous!

"You're a millionaire? I only date billionaires! Get the fuck out!"

[–]da_voodoo 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women have no fucking idea what height you are, only if you're taller than them or most guys. 6' would put you in the top 20% everywhere but northern europe. Either you or they are full of shit.

[–]1FloranHunter 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most women don't even know about 6' looks like. 5'10" guys and above say they're 6' and girls aren't exactly measuring men.

[–]machimus 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Damn, that's pretty harsh. Still, I have a friend that's about that tall and with a good physique he cleans house. Makes the "fairly in shape" among us look like chodes, the bastard. :P

[–]archeasterisk 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

5'9.5 here checking in. I got laid regularly when I was in school surrounded by thirsty coeds (I'm 20.) Don't know about all these women setting the bar that high but I definitely saw the advantage firsthand, best friend and roommate being a 6'4 male model (me jealous? HA) This stuff is pretty common knowledge though like someone said, just run a tight game and stay away from places like OkCupid where aesthetics is king. On that note I really need to set up a tinder account...

[–]sway_usa 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5'8 here and I have been cleaning up on Tinder. Not sure if it's because girls care less about height, or that it isn't a filter-able quality.

[–]watersign 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

those women will be single for along, long time

[–]Gfresh405 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like horse shit to me. Sounds like they just didn't want to date you.

[–]icyhot39 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A previous LTR I had was with a 6 ft blonde. When she ditched my beta-bitch-ass she was pretty unhappy about re-entering the dating pool and having fewer men to date simply because of height. She wasn't attracted to shorter men... but to be fair, men don't find women taller than them as attractive either. (at least I don't)

There are multiple ways to look at this, but I prefer to think of tall chicks as easier to game: * less men hitting on them either out of lack of desire or intimidation * resulting in less SMV inflation

[–]sway_usa 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They still have SMV inflation, because of their height they are convinced they are entitled to a man taller than them. By that fact alone, they have an inflated sense of SMV because tall guys have a starting SMV of at least 5, just like thin women do.

[–]chinteresting 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I still think women in general have a tendency to lie on anonymous surveys, and that the percentage that prefer a taller male is even higher... 49%?!?! PSHHH. Real world experience on my part makes me doubt that stat.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Being short just means I have to make up for it in other ways. I lift like crazy and I'm slowly becoming a fucking psycho. So there's that. Works better than being the short skinny shy kid I used to be.

[–]watersign 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

being a manlet is not attractive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And what do you expect me to do? Sit in a corner and cry because I'm not tall? I can't change my race. I can't change my height. I work with what I can change and make myself the best I can.

[–]watersign -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just saying as someone in your shoes. manlet = no no

[–]blazingblue16 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy is trolling, he doesn't even know how tall you are. Get your mighty back and 6 pack; get them panties wet.

[–]Afroemo0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

dude fuck the haters , go full Conan the barbarian 2.0 .

[–]charlie_bodango 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it is still possible. See: Tyrion Lannister.

[–]6TLaRm4g 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I, being of average height (185cm, but Eastern/Northern Europe) view this as a limit on the supply of girls you can get. Short guys have even larger limit, but to women that are shorter than you it's not a big deal. Just target women below, or at worst at your height, and you won't feel disadvantage. Essentially low height adds most difficulty to preselection, not actual game once she is comfortable with how tall you are.

[–]watersign 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

welcome to yesterday, population you

[–]Kdawg1033 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In other news, water is wet.

[–]Olipyr 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a manmore, no shit Sherlock.

Even as a fat manmore, no shit Sherlock.

[–]youngbulker -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

as a tall guy... this is complete horseshit.. height != fighting skill. Even a 6'5" bodybuilder at 260lbs 6% bf does not = fighting skill. women are fucking retarded, and so are people who think height = security... dumb cunts

[–]6TLaRm4g 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Actually height is a huge bonus to fighting skill, especially long arms. You have obviously no experience in fighting.

[–]youngbulker 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

ive been in fights, ive never trained for them.. and let me tell you what, obviously having no fighting experience = your gona have a bad time vs someone that does. doesnt matter how fucking tall you are. You dont need experience in fighting to make a comment like "if you dont have experience you'll get your ass kicked".

[–]6TLaRm4g 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's obvious experience matters most, but if you take 2 people with similar mass and experience, the higher one will have better reach + better knee reach, and in turn will have the advantage and better chance to knock lower one off. It's just physics.

[–]youngbulker 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

oh i dont disagree there, I just hate tall people who think they can win any fight because they are tall.. seriously if you piss off the wrong 5'5" dude with training experience he will wreck a non trained tall guy.. but I cant expect women to know that, i forgot the whole premise of this post is about what women THINK is safe/secure.

[–]6TLaRm4g 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TBH from my experience it matters more than you think. When I just joined martial arts class, I was really bad, but when put with much shorter guy with 10 years of experience (not all those years in sparing, or fighting against opponent), I could win against him mostly by my height alone. And, accordingly, I could barely touch 10 cm higher opponent than me, at the same time constantly getting hits. I can't say for sure, because my sample size is small, but that's what I experienced.

[–]sway_usa 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Without training, though, it's a pretty decent advantage. Trained skill in fighting is relatively new (evolutionarily speaking). The height attraction is operating off of 2 million year old software.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Who cares? If your short and not getting laid, get better game. Stop reinforcing your excuses by posting articles that help your rationalizations.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's not about that. This type of post is to help you understand the beast that you hunt. A lot of guys are in denial of simple shit like this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you care about what a woman prefers in a man then you are not in your best mindset. Stop caring about what women like.

[–]LOLunlucky 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Height is a huge advantage, but not a deal breaker if you have a decent mindset. I've fucked plenty of really beautiful women being 5'10. Have a positive mindset and get good at talking to girls and you WILL get laid. I think most guys worry about height more than most women do.

Don't let women dictate what they want to you; get some game and SHOW them that they want you.

Regardless of height.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's kind of the opposite of game. Unless you're a mgtow then you have to care about what they like. Women are like fish. You have to know what lures them in.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Height advantage is elementary shit for tpr. Take it over to /r/seduction where the debate rages on

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're so mean. You broke my heart!

[+]randomdude600 -16 points-15 points-14 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

6'5" bitches :-D

[–]fullpowerattack 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And yet here you are, at the bottom.

[+]randomdude600 -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

oh no whatever will I do

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Get paid better, have women love you more, be more successful and confident, and then think that all your success was all your doing.

[–]igrokspock -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Die sooner because you're taller.

Bye bye, soon.

[–]randomdude600 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

MMMM that hate feels goooo ooood

[–]igrokspock -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol dick must be small as fuck.

[–]charlie_bodango 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wow.. The hate. But why?

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]randomdude600 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol or just a mega dose of NGAF

[–]charlie_bodango 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean I'm 5'8" and the average height is 5'10" but I'm not stressin. I get mine.

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