Two (relatively) easy ways we can take back control of the sexual marketplace.

DontBeFredo · 2016-10-02T18:50:10+00:00

In my opinion it will never be possible. The majority of men will always be desperate enough for sex and female attention that the TRP doesn't stand a chance of going mainstream.

Furthermore, it's best for RP men to realize that we are better off with having beta men. Women like Alpha men because beta men exist. In theory, if every man becomes alpha, something else must become attractive to women...perhaps super alpha? Idk, that phrase sounds stupid but it's the best I could come up with.. Not convinced of that theory? Think of money.

Wealthy people like being wealthy because there are poor and middle class people. In theory, sure, it would be nice if everyone could be "rich". But if everyone had the same purchasing power and level of wealth, something else would be desired. Having money is only cool because I can buy a Ferrari and the McDonald's worker can not. If everyone suddenly was able to afford a Ferrari, Ferrari manufacturers would jack the price up so only the wealthiest of the wealthy could afford it. Back to men - if every man became subscribed to TRP, women would be able to become even more picky. There must be those that are weak for the strong to prosper.

DiarrheaHelmet · 2016-10-02T19:35:07+00:00

Prostitution is already legal here in Britain, it doesn't change anything.

What you want to do is fight against human nature. You can't do that. Let them guzzle all the cum they want, and accept them for what they are - creatures of low moral standing. Worry about yourself.

jav253 · 2016-10-02T20:10:14+00:00

I still think a simpler solution would be fighting to get rid of No Fault Divorce. As it stands Marriage is just a bad contract for Men. The Women can exit too easily, and have too much financial incentive to do so especially after having a child. It's the main cause of the single mother epidemic. Which is a driver of a lot of the rest of societal decay.

Though your not going to be able to stop the slut behavior of Western women. That's a culture thing. It's become acceptable for them to bang lot's of dudes so long as they hide the true number. If you don't like that you will probably have to move to some small bible belt religious community where the town whore is actually looked down upon still.

MattyAnon · 2016-10-03T00:25:25+00:00

Prostitution is illegal precisely to keep the value of pussy artificially high (ie if you're not alpha, you have to pay with your lifetime commitment). Prostitution is cheaper than divorce, but men don't like it. Why? Because with a wife, you can pretend that she likes you for you rather than your commitment, resources and future alimony payments. It's an illusion, but it's an illusion most men will pay a LOT of money for.

This means that both women and most men are against cheapening pussy through prostitution.

The problem is fundamental: young men especially have low SMV compared to young women. This means they'll always be deluded - what young man is going to listen to his greying dad saying "don't trust 'em" when his hot sexy delicious young girlfriend is saying "but our love will last forever".

Women have the majority of the vote and almost the entirety of the shrill voice on social media. Young men are feminists, most older men are trapped in marriage.

This means almost noone is in a position to care about men in general. Most have a vested interest in the status quo. Almost noone wants to admit AF/BB.

stonepimpletilists · 2016-10-02T18:48:56+00:00

Lol, post shower thoughts there, questions on atrp

Mckallidon · 2016-10-02T20:20:45+00:00

It is entirely possible but these aren't the solutions. It's the little decisions we make and a few big moves. Stop consuming. Save your money and stop feeding corporate America and the gov't. Starve whatever institutions promote current conditions. Engage systems that promote family values. I am an atheist but I take part is church activities because they promote values regarding family and marriage I agree with. Stop trying to get laid all the time and feeding their egos. Let Chad and chumps have them. Fight the courts and laws piece by piece. Engage is private civic life to promote your values. Date down. If the only real value a woman has is reproductive then don't date, marry or fuck feminist libtards. Bleach them from our genepool and families. AWALT is true but less empowered women don't have the means or even know how to be stupid vampire libtard cunts.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-10-02T21:15:02+00:00

Simple

Repeal all Child Support Laws

It was as recent as 1950 when these laws came into existence and for at least a hundred years before then the older English Laws had specifically banned the concept because of it's association with male slavery.

Remove the automatic child support payments for women and they will have to earn it (support) by being feminine women again.

Problem solved.

rigbed · 2016-10-02T19:05:42+00:00

Beta men are going to be encouraged to embrace their latent "homosexuality". It won't be difficult, porn is known to make men more accepting of gay marriage so it's only a matter of time before society convinces men who watch porn they'd rather watch "real men" bang their wives and get pegged by their wives and eventually this will eliminate a good proportion of the men from being a sexual threat. Children will always take after the mother or father more, regardless of gender, so they'll always be betas even if only alphas do the breeding.

Edit: I bet if media can get men to wank to it they'll accept it. Follow this idea.

rockymountainoysters · 2016-10-02T21:08:51+00:00

Far better for us who are concerned chiefly with our own lives -- and who are unlikely to see satisfactory marriage reform in our lifetimes -- to vote in the most efficient fashion on earth: with our feet.

Make your money in your prosperous feminized country, develop the income streams you need to live like a king in a poorer country, and ship off to someplace where women are more enjoyable people and the laws don't tear married/divorcing men to shreds.

In so doing, you remove 1 man from your country's pool of marriageable men, and make one tiny dent in the supply:demand ratio, whilst you enjoy being treated like you were meant to be.

Tuga_Lissabon · 2016-10-02T21:58:19+00:00

Dude, you NEED the betas.

You need them to work and pay taxes.

You need them to be the low baseline against which you are compared, and its them who allow you to shine.

If TRP goes mainstream either we get harder laws cast on our ass, or we lose the comparative advantage.

spootsnoopy · 2016-10-02T22:59:42+00:00

Prostitution is legal here in Australia. I don't think it makes much difference tbh. Doesn't really solve the problem but it doesn't really create new ones.

Most Australians don't even know that it's legal here because we watch so much American TV, they just assume it's illegal.

Fix marriage.

victor_knight · 2016-10-03T01:23:42+00:00

I'm not sure how legalizing prostitution will help. We put a man on the moon over 45 years ago but we still can't make a condom feel like you're not wearing it. Men also still prefer bareback sex and enjoy creampies. Not to mention many will eventually want kids.

EStriker18 · 2016-10-02T23:42:50+00:00

Legalizing prostitution is the #1 way to fight hypergamy. The reason women are fat, fickle and don't try in America is because high quality men will resort to fucking them to break a dry spell, or take them up on the offer to sleep with them on a slow night out. If men are allowed to get laid whenever they want as happens with legal and regulated prostitution (right now what stops men from using current sex trade market is fear of STDs, which is mostly psychological since the average escort takes care of her sexual hygiene far more than the average woman getting drunk and getting porked in the bathroom without a condom).

Suddenly, all the plain janes and ms piggys reveling in the 100's of messages in their inbox get a cold bucket of water to the face.

Whisper · 2016-10-03T00:50:14+00:00

Who's this "we"?

I am doing just fine. Read my articles, and those of /u/humansockpuppet, u/gaylubeoil, and /u/archwinger, and put them into practice, and you will do fine too.

Then what the fuck do you care about a bunch of people too lazy to do the same?

scarletspider3 · 2016-10-02T20:44:25+00:00

Vote for men that will cut female entitlement programs and encourage more men not to get married.

sd4c · 2016-10-02T21:45:34+00:00

..3. Get Vasigel (male birth control) FDA-approved.

No more "oops" pregnancies means less anxiety hooking up with chicks good enough to nail, but not good enough to mother your kids. No more worrying about pregnancy-rape

Whisper · 2016-10-03T00:50:10+00:00

Who's this "we"?

I am doing just fine. Read my articles, and those of /u/humansockpuppet, u/gaylubeoil, and /u/archwinger, and put them into practice, and you will do fine too.

Then what the fuck do you care about a bunch of people too lazy to do the same?

vengefully_yours · 2016-10-03T05:20:25+00:00

Know what? I don't give a fuck about taking control of it. I don't give a fuck about arbitrary moral standards imposed on everyone. The law is one thing, this is another.

Know what I give a fuck about?

Me. It's only what matters to me that I care enough about to effect a change.

Why don't I give two shits about the smp? Because I can still get laid by cute girls who are half my near 50 age. It's fucking easy, they're easy to fuck this way. Why would I want to make it easier for these wimpy, entitled, skinny jeans wearing, mangina fucks? If they choose to marry some landwhale, I don't care. If they want to ignore my warning about marriage, it's his funeral.

Screw that shit. You can listen to us old guys who have lived through the mistakes, or you can do the same fucking ones we made. Bitches are going to do bitch shit. Expect it, accept it, take advantage of it.

Fuck, if an old gray and fat man can get hot girls interested and naked, what is your excuse? Why should I do anything to make it easier for you? Shit, I'm here telling you guys the how's and why's along with the what. I had to work for it, you should too. I enjoy fucking sluts, sluts get fucked when I fuck sluts, no ifs, ands or buts. They're prime for nut sucking and a raunchy night of butt fucking.

That's how I like it. I'm not going to fix it for you so you can marry some cunt and be miserable for years.

johnchapel · 2016-10-02T22:27:59+00:00

"WE" already do control the sexual marketplace. What are you talking about?

Words-Are-Wind · 2016-10-02T23:35:32+00:00

Number 1 is easy. Just make a website about divorce and marriage that links here. Put the keywords in so it comes up in searches when people search marriage, divorce, whatever you want. Get linked to and from other redpill websites as much as possible as that helps with google rankings. Do whatever you can to drive up traffic. Posting it here and telling everyone to visit it at least once even if just for 1 second should help that a lot. I never googled marriage or wedding but I'm sure front page competition will be tough with all the wedding planning and marriage counseling services that exist.

The more keywords you use, the better things will be. If you add keywords like alimony and divorce and stuff that men are worried about and might search, then you will show up better than a wedding planner when a guy searches "marriage divorce and alimony", since divorce and alimony most likely aren't one of their keywords.

And look up SEO for even more tips and further explanation of how it all works. I'm an IT consultant, but SEO isn't really my expertise.

Edit: Holy shit, that was a huge font size

JackGetsIt · 2016-10-03T06:21:54+00:00

Legalizing prostitution will help a little. Decoupling the state from marriage in general will help A LOT. Reforming the criminal justice system (Duluth model) and changing the litigious culture is really our only hope.

I think a good start on all this is defeating feminism in academic circles and then winning the culture wars.

Considering the fact that TRP isn't a mens rights organization that organizes legal changes I don't think getting it to the top of a google search will help.

edit. A shortcut to fix all this is to bring back societal slut shaming. If women were more apt to marry and stay in marriages most of these problems would go away. Most religions control women's hypergamous nature for good reason. You can't have a civilized society without female control and male buy in.

scarletspider3 · 2016-10-03T14:39:09+00:00

I think it easy to regain control of the SMP at least on the individual level. All you really have to do is make your as successful as possible and stay in decent shape. Then just go for girls of lower social-economic status. That would put you in the power position. In that situation the chick will need you a lot more then you need her. Then just don't marry her and she'll always have to stay on her toe's trying to please you.

You all need to understand that Chick's really don't have the kind of options that we think they do. Their just isn't as many successful men out there to go around. So their really is a serious competition among women for them. Once you start moving up you start realizing that the chick is lucky that your spending time with her.

Chick's hate the fact that they can't level up the way men could. They hate the fact that even if they spend all this time in school that they will still have to compete with the waitress with the nice ass. While men don't have to compete with the waiter if we are on a different level. The SMV is only in the favor of women if you are not successful. Being successful for a woman is a death sentence because most of them end up alone. Trust me I know plenty of successful women and most of them are alone. It's like only the hottest top 20% percent of successful women get a decent guy.

Like I said just don't get married because that would be handing over your power to her. I made the mistake in the past of telling chick's that I'm never getting married and you wouldn't believe the anger it brings out in women. That's because they know that if successful men don't get married, it takes their power over men away.

razormachine · 2016-10-03T17:40:22+00:00

Spend your 20's building your career fucking woman and generally taking care of yourself.

When you reach your 30's and are expected to provide for a cum guzzling modern woman... well spend those years building your career fucking woman and generally taking care of yourself.

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JohnnyRaz · 2016-10-03T01:25:59+00:00

There's no easy way to take it back...it would need to go as deep as taking back control of the media which now over 95% of is owned by the same people through control of 6 corporations. This is deliberate. The same people telling women that men are desperate idiots. The same people filling our heads with poison...a lot more would need to change then it would seem at first glance.

trpjnf · 2016-10-02T21:52:22+00:00

I think the Dark Enlightenment subreddit would be a better place for this type of post. They think about this type of thing a lot (with regard to "saving" Western civilization from itself). At the very least, they'll be more receptive to this type of thinking than the crowd here.

However, I do think there are some flaws in your thinking (not trying to be a dick, just want to offer some thoughts as to why your ideas might not work as easily as you think). For starters, trying to make RP thought mainstream wouldn't go over well. An internet forum full of misogynists has all the answers to your dating problems? People wouldn't feel too good about that, and for many people, feelz > realz.

People are generally very invested in the illusions they create for themselves. To be fair, these illusions do a decent job of helping these people through the day. It's comforting for some fat loser in his basement to believe that one day he'll get a woman by being a "nice guy". It's a lot harder for him to admit to himself that he doesn't get girls because of he's out of shape and doesn't have the social status to compete with Chad. And if that illusion prevents him from going to school/work that day and shooting up the place, doesn't that make his illusion a good thing? As another commenter said, having beta men around is actually good for the alphas, so long as they aren't gunning for his spot atop the social hierarchy. Beta illusions are what prevent a lot of alphas from being ruined. RP thought does pretty well at destroying those illusions, and isn't meant for the average idiot.

As for legalizing prostitution, that would give women (as a group) more control over male sexuality. If one woman can charge for access to her pussy, wouldn't every woman? And if she doesn't feel attracted to the dude who is looking for her "services", she would just raise her price until the dude is unwilling/unable to pay. Or, she could flat out refuse service to him, and only "serve" Chads. So now not only is every woman quite literally a prostitute, they pick and choose their customers so the men who would have benefited from legalized prostitution are fucked.

The other reason legalized prostitution would fail is that it hurts women as well (on an individual level). Women use their vaginas/childbearing abilities as a currency in the form of sexual favors. With legalized prostitution, no longer can a woman use the potential for sex to get something out a man (free booze/drugs, financial security, status, etc.). He can go get sex whenever he chooses, as long as he has the financial means. And you bet your ass the government, as the world's future largest pimp, will find a way to ensure EVERY man has the financial means (by fucking the rest of us with taxes). Legalized prostitution would be bad for everyone, and that's before even really getting into the issue.

TermsOfColors · 2016-10-02T21:59:08+00:00

There's no "we". Think "I".

If everyone hits their mark, then "we" will win.

JackGetsIt · 2016-10-03T00:44:13+00:00

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SuckMyFist · 2016-10-03T02:54:50+00:00

While most of us believe the war is lost and nothing can be done

The battle is definitely lost, the war is another thing.

Fight to legalize prostitution.

While I agree with this I don't think it makes any REAL difference, in most of Continental Europe prostitution is either legal or unprosecuted* and while it definitely lowers the price of pussy, it doesn't change female-male dynamics that much, for god's sake brothels are legal in Australia and they are one of the most cucked country on Earth.

* Let us forget Scandinavia where it is legal for a woman to sell her body but it is illegal for any man to purchase her services, that's just upside-down society, we'll see how an Islamized Sweden can deal with the Female Question.

2016-10-03T03:04:30+00:00

You can't legalize prostitution. Feminists and liberals subconsciously understand the power of prostitution. They will fight this one very hard. Although they are not against the escorts themselves, the problem is that they do not want their men to be swayed by whores (irony); who also happen to be more desirable.

They could even potentially go with a Scandinavian system where its legal to sell sex and illegal to buy sex. This would put those who use escorts in a very bad situation. I could totally picture being blackmailed by a few of the escorts that I have used.

Currently it is simply a better alternative to keep prostitution illegal and away from the media's attention. That way when you find actually legit escorts and agencies, business is conducted under the table away from the government.

jrivera1041 · 2016-10-03T05:08:19+00:00

War and famine will one day push our society back into reality. Our society cannot perpetually stay in this state.

Soarinc · 2016-10-03T05:28:21+00:00

Most men would consider themselves lucky if their girl had been with ONLY 5 other guys.

The dark humor is that EVEN IF you are with a girl who has a low n-count, you can't trust her whatsoever because AWALT.

So even if you're with a girl who has slept with just 1-2 guys, there is no way an TRP guy could truthfully believe her stated low N-count. Girls have fucked their own reputation kinda bad here.

Many of them will become great welfare queens, alpha widowed, single mothers who raise their children into bluepill betas and IF THOSE KIDS are lucky the men will stumble upon TRP but then girls raised without fathers will probably turn out worse than mom...

Hurray for cultural marxism, the results are looking terrific!

yellowfart · 2016-10-03T09:34:40+00:00

My 2 cents on legalizing prostitution : it doesn't change anything. Where I live men fly from all over the world with banging hookers for cheap as a main purpose. You can get a decent looking one for all night for $30. Stunner for $100. Still thousands blue pilled losers end up broke by getting into a LTR/married, like this poor fella

The cherry on the cake being that the "tradition" for men getting married is to pay a huge ass dowry to the family of the bride, so not only they are making a stupid mistake by getting into a LTR (while they could spend a lifetime fucking stunners for cheap) but they agree to pay ridiculous amount for it. Seriously, what was this guy thinking ?

How does that guy can think that woman could be a good wife ?

And this is not only foreigners doing those things, most local men also find it normal to pay to keep a walking pussy in their home all day long.

tldr blue pill people prefer to pay for LTR than banging hookers, they need the illusion that someone cares about them

NaughtyFred · 2016-10-03T11:10:44+00:00

Regarding objective one:

Many blue-pilled guys know somethings wrong, I've seen comment chains of many posts in a lot of non-manosphere subs resemble comment chains in red pill posts.

If would could condense some core trp principles/self-evident truths into memes they would spread into the wider consciousness easily.

beachbbqlover · 2016-10-02T21:44:06+00:00

If men aren't automatically assigned to children without any consent, but we also have reproductive rights, then competent men don't get ruined. Only the fools who still fall for white.

itsawomensworld · 2016-10-03T04:47:20+00:00

Let's fight for all.freedoms whether prostitiion, drugs etc. While I'm not into drugs or prostitutes, the government has no right to restrict voluntary transactions between adults; it's a violation of freedom. Why the fuck do we need a paternalistic state? That's insulting.

uniquevoid · 2016-10-02T20:11:42+00:00

Legalize prostitution? Are you insane?

You don't fight degeneration with degenaration, that would be like turning into the male version of feminists

Fuck you, in all respect

Two (relatively) easy ways we can take back control of the sexual marketplace.

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Title	Two (relatively) easy ways we can take back control of the sexual marketplace.
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