Whats TRP's take on NoFap

Solipsistic_guy · 2017-08-15T13:08:21+00:00

I don't take it as never fap. Just don't make it a daily ritual. I do it once in a week or two when I'm monk mode, never when with spinning plates.

But I've completely stopped watching porn.

ZXMarvin · 2017-08-15T13:50:14+00:00

IMO NoFap as a 'movement' is now tangled with so many insecurities and biases that its best to be avoided. The premises are generally healthy however fanatical ideas of superpowers tend to override these.

I think quitting porn is contextual and depends upon how deep down the rabbit hole of porn you've gone, the problem of course is a lot of people that are addicted are blind to it.

But to demonize masturbating is too strong. Personally I do not believe we evolved to masturbate to all of these varieties of porn, and I feel in myself having stopped, a greater propensity to hunt for sex rather than simply masturbate. And by hunt, I mean an inner urge to be stronger, achieve more, approach women and go after things.

Whilst I don't profess stories of superpowers, I am definitely more driven, I feel stronger and more dominant and am enjoy the feeling of actually wanting to go out and have sex.

But then, I used masturbation as a form of escapism and would go at it 3-5X+ a day every day I could.

My take on it is this - try it for two weeks. If you literally cant go a few days without porn you have something to look into.. If you find yourself able to abstain and feel benefits then cut back or completely stop otherwise don't worry too much.

MattyAnon · 2017-08-15T17:31:18+00:00

Do it if it works for you.

Don't do it if it doesn't work for you.

zeeohsixer · 2017-08-15T14:31:08+00:00

I think it started with porn addicts who needed to get off the drug. If you're lifting hard, sleeping enough and eating right you'll probably need a manual release once in awhile. I know I do, or I can't think clearly. Some of the guys are fanatical about it, claiming all kinds of bullshit as fact. Its their religion, let them have it.

Lordracula · 2017-08-15T13:03:34+00:00

I like to think of it as Realz over Feelz and vice-versa. If you can control/manipulate your feels in favour of the realz then that can only be a good thing.

keysomea · 2017-08-15T13:20:46+00:00

On in it now for 8 days and so far I had the urge to masturbate a lot of times but hey necessary discomfort is something necessary.

FindTheBus · 2017-08-15T17:28:19+00:00

Being able to jerk it to 20 tabs of pornhub any time you want is probably not good for you.

Porn is probably responsible for the growing cuckold trend.

Sabotaging your own sex drive isn't good.

Contrary to NoFap evangelists, not wanking probably WON'T give you super saiyan powers.

Not ejaculating at all isn't good for your prostate.

Giving in to the urge to jerk off whenever you're horny isn't good for your respect of your own self control.

We didn't need NoFap when people only had their memories and maybe a magazine to get off to.

failberry · 2017-08-15T21:24:10+00:00

I've reached a point where fapping or even reaching orgasm gives me a sense of sadness and weakness and drains my positive energy. I sincerely cannot give it a rational explanation but I accepted it as a matter of fact and I just avoid it. I quit porn and fap 5 months ago and every day I'm just more motivated and driven by a natural inner strenght . Not really trying to lead people on this way , just sharing my personal experience

SasquatchMcKraken · 2017-08-15T21:36:33+00:00

Don't do it too often. But don't be one of those guys who brag about not having done it for 115 days either. The testosterone benefits are temporary (like a few days to a week). After that, unless you're getting it out by fucking instead, it becomes downright unhealthy. It's a natural pressure relief system that you ignore at your own peril. Nofap is stupid. Sometimesfap is what you want to shoot for (no pun intended).

Thotwrecker · 2017-08-16T07:51:11+00:00

I think NoFap is a great concept if applied like an intelligent person and not a zealot. It is true that jerking off to porn frequently is bad for you, and it's also true that most normal guys don't realize what effects constantly masturbation and porn have upon their brain and body.

I think NoFap is also a great discipline builder, similar to taking cold showers everyday.

But it isn't a substitute for hard work. All these autistic redditors get a massive boner for themselves and act like they are these herculean monks for not skinning the sausage for a month. That isn't an accomplishment, that is ... just not jerking off. It isn't going to make you a superman. It's not going to help you get laid - I can jerk off 4 times and then go out and fuck a girl, and have a lousey lay because my dickhead is so sensitive... but I'll still come out ahead of a dude who doesn't jerk off for a week but doesn't go out.

So do NoFap. Try it out. Don't go on the subreddit. You don't need a fucking support community to not diddle yourself. I mean jesus christ NoFap is the most mastubatory thing Reddit has ever done - a bunch of guys circlejerking about how great they are for not jerking off.

So do it like an intelligent person.

I personally believe no one who's serious about living a great life should be frequently using porn, playing video games, smoking / drinking, eating shit food, getting poor sleep, and so on. But that's just my opinion. I think in life if you are not succeeding on the level you want to be succeeding on, you probably can give yourself a boost by severely reducing these activities. And I also believe every man should abstain from all of the above for at least 6 months just to see what your life could be like, and then make an educated decision about what lifestyle you want.

M1ster_X · 2017-08-15T14:36:16+00:00

TRP's main stance on NoFap what what I gather is the porn addiction that's often linked to frequent masturbation. Porn is a vice that gives instant gratification (orgasm) without the work to achieve it in more gratifying ways (learning game, banging chicks, THEN orgasm).

NoFap, like working out, growing a business or doing anything that's productive to your overall well-being, is a measure of discipline that when built up strong enough become second nature. Masturbation is an urge, not a need, and like all urges it can be controlled in moderation or eliminated entirely.

IDGAFMentality · 2017-08-15T20:27:57+00:00

I definitely think that not many people here have factored in the flat line many individuals partaking in NoFap experience. While abstaining from porn and masturbation in excessive amounts is useful in building self discipline and for driving self improvement, long term continuation of such a practice inevitably leads to the flat line, which is in my eyes a state of regression.

During the flat line, people often lose all sense of motivation, become zombie-like, have no desire for self improvement, and lose many of the "superpowers" NoFap claims to give individuals. To answer the OP's question, despite the fact that many describe the flat line as temporary, I feel that the entirety of a NoFap "reboot" (90 days no porn, masturbation, or orgasm) does not align with the relentless cycle of constant self improvement and sexual success with real women TRP advocates for.

Personally, I feel that porn addiction is a very large problem within our society, and I have partaken in NoFap to break free from that addiction, but I've stopped short of being dragged into the cult following many on the NoFap sub have succumbed to. I think as others have mentioned, NoFap can be a powerful tool to locate self discipline and to overcome addictions to porn which limit individuals from going out and pursuing real interactions. For these reasons, I believe if you are in a position where NoFap can benefit you go for it, however don't follow it to the point where you enter the flat line (usually 30-45 days in), and use it as a temporary measure until you improve in your life to the point where you can have sex with real people, as actual sex increases testosterone a lot more than abstaining from masturbation does.

thatguywhatshisface · 2017-08-16T07:02:21+00:00

Masturbation is okay, as long as there is no porn involved.

Thats why the NoFap movement is so large. It should be NoPornFap or BringImaginationBackToFap lol

If you need to wank, go do it. But don't sit for a half hour or more scrolling and clicking around the net, ringing out your brains dopamine.

That being said, it's always been a "thing" in human history that ejaculation can cause you to "calm" or become "docile" however you want to put it. I personally know of a few guys who are professional fighters (one being a world Muay Thai champion) that all stick by this idea religiously. They won't fuck for a minimum of 2 weeks before a fight.

Entropy-7 · 2017-08-15T14:52:16+00:00

As with alcohol, everything in moderation.

WolfofAnarchy · 2017-08-15T16:56:00+00:00

NoFap tests your willpower against the deepest urges (sexual ones) known to man. It's a supreme builder of grit, discipline and willpower itself.

dark_dragoon10 · 2017-08-15T15:40:13+00:00

If you can channel the tension to go approach or lift then no fap is great. I cut fapping cold turkey. Next time I cum is when I have sex.. and the actions I'm taking are to increase the frequency of that.

HappyScribe · 2017-08-15T20:37:08+00:00

Nofap great if you're wacking off twice (or more) a day like some sort of frustrated caged monkey, you never go out and can't get an erection with a real girl. A lot of people self sooth with fapping in the same way an alcoholic blocks out the pain with alcohol. To those people the 'superpowers' no fappers speak of are real - they become normal.

slothsenpai · 2017-08-16T00:00:06+00:00

I honestly didn't have my first wank til I was 23 (I didn't know how to at the time) yet I was still the same low-energy beta like every other good goy. It didn't provide me with any sort of super powers so wondering what was up with that? Unless I've had to wank first and then abstain from it in order to achieve that zen-state

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-08-15T14:41:54+00:00

NoFap -----> Cult
MGTOW -----> Cult

They are spin offs.

Just like Fake Nazis and the Alt Right groups get lumped together but are totally different.

Hector_Castillo · 2017-08-15T14:22:15+00:00

I'm high T, so I can wank off tons to porn and still go out and pick up chicks or have a girl over and blast her pussy for a few hours, but I feel better when I don't. Sometimes it gets too much and I need to blast off, but got some recent advice to work-out when I get the urge and release my tension that way.

Daboyry · 2017-08-15T19:46:49+00:00

Nofap gives one energy. Postfap feelings of lethargy come from the release of the energy. So, not only does one lose energy after fapping, energy is used to recuperate loss of semen. With the excess energy, you can channel it into working out, approaching, work, etc. Everyone is different but this has been my experience from three years of nofap.

Ratb8er · 2017-08-15T12:32:09+00:00

Went roughly 80 days at the start of last year, honestly i wouldn't do it again

Salted_Pretzel · 2017-08-15T15:34:54+00:00

Everybody is different. I'm more willing to approach that girl. On the other hand, I get more stressed out and a simple thing as nexting a girl will get me frustrated. I'm back on NoFap, simple because my anxiety and social awkwardness is slightly reduce.

eLZhi · 2017-08-15T22:13:45+00:00

no fap should be renamed to "no porn", unless you've got very high levels of testosterone porn will fuck you up, especially if you have no self control.

Nonstopas · 2017-08-15T22:45:03+00:00

I did a total of 4 months of NoFap troughout the last 8 months. When i discovered it i was expecting some super powers, but its all just bullshit. Then i stopped after a month, and went back to my old ways: porn. Lots of it. And i hated it. Once i quit porn and did no fap just for my own benefits its much more different. Plus im more of a no porn than nofap these days, since i can control myself better

BobbyPeru · 2017-08-16T07:35:45+00:00

I don't fap to porn, but I'll watch a little about a half hour befor having sex with my wife... Just to enhance my mood

88Will88 · 2017-08-15T23:36:04+00:00

TRPs take is don't fap, empty your load into or onto bitches after you have maxed out your SMV. A successful red pill man does not need to fap, there is a world filled with women who want to extract his semen with their mouthes, pussies and assholes. Why fap when you can cum the natural way?

hva_vet · 2017-08-15T17:04:06+00:00

NoFap has merit as a self improvement tool and to learn some discipline with porn and self gratification. As a movement it is also full of woo and broscience with regards to testosterone.

contrafagotto · 2017-08-15T13:55:54+00:00

NoFap is just one of the many ways in which TRP recycles Victorian thinking as cutting edge. NoFap is the new hair on your palms.

NakedAndBehindYou · 2017-08-16T08:26:55+00:00

In my experience it helps keep my level of energy higher throughout the day, since jacking off lowers my energy and sort of relaxes me. Nofap also keeps me hyper alert of any opportunities to flirt with girls because I have an unfulfilled sexual desire which would otherwise be nullified by fapping.

Overall, Nofap is a positive experience for me, but I never did it permanently. When I tried it, I would just not fap as often as before.

fearganfadhb · 2017-08-16T09:01:29+00:00

Masturbate if you want but porn is pure cuckoldry.

tobiceps · 2017-08-16T12:53:18+00:00

I had been doing NoFap for one and a half months when I entered a massive flatline. I missed out on 5 one night stands because I couldn't get my dick up for weeks. I eventually relapsed in order to gain control over my erections again. I would say I have a much healthier approach to masturbation now. I fap less often (only when I'm really horny) and I don't use porn any longer. Besides that I noticed that my sexual performance increased significantly. I last a lot longer and the erections are much stronger compared to when I masturbated once a day.

DotishGuy · 2017-08-16T21:17:20+00:00

Dosage makes the poison. Just listen to your body and fap when you NEED to, when it gets unbearable and there's no other outlet and you can't concentrate. That's when you need to fap,,, don't do it because you're bored.

Title	Whats TRP's take on NoFap
Author	trillaK
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Date	August 15, 2017 12:30 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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