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"I frequently bang guys on the first date and then they ghost me. What's wrong with men?"

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September 24, 2021
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Title "I frequently bang guys on the first date and then they ghost me. What's wrong with men?"
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Date September 24, 2021 10:15 PM UTC
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[–]HLFML 174 points175 points176 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Amongst my social circle of married family guys we are always saying that what made us pick our wives to be the mothers of our children was their willingness to get drunk and have sex with a laundry list of men they didn’t know. It’s just such a good indicator of future suitability for the most important decision a man will ever make.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 103 points104 points105 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you didn't meet her at a gangbang what's even the point of wifing her up?

[–]our_purring_majestyCock carousel conductor 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why build relationships with a stable girl if you can save a hoe?

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dated a stable girl once but it didn't work out. I'm allergic to horses.

[–]RevolutionaryFilm995 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't turn a hoe into a house wife But you can turn a house wife into a hoe.

[–]Individual451 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea it works both ways though. The romantic "dance" is part of the game. "met him, fucked him, now he doesn't love me". No shit Sherlock. (Edit: I've known women like this, and as much as I liked some of them, they were damaged people, or needy people, but all broken people)

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 121 points122 points123 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

If we get what we want, we come back for more.

All that "lowing conversation, emotional rapport" and such she felt ... it was probably a chore for the guy to deal with her. He created all that, she just showed up. When he realized that even the sex was mediocre at best, he knew it was time to split.

This of course hit her hard. She is yet to understand that all these things that made the dates special were done by men - and she was just along for the ride..

[–]Martellus732 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Garbage In, Garbage Out as they say in the stats circles.

[–]ronoda12 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GIGO

[–]SvartanattenJr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well freak data is more interesting to me make points...

[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine[🍰] 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Yup. She's probably a dead lay and she requires too much emotional and financial labor to get that dead lay.

No reason for the dude to stick around after.

The alternative is she was just aiming too high to begin with, but Chad would not have jumped through her hoops - if he wasn't getting his balls emptied by her very quickly, he'd just let one of the other volunteers step up for that and pay this one no more mind whatsoever. Chad doesn't date, he booty calls.

Granted, she may not be the most reliable narrator when it comes to portraying these "dates". After all, most men have noticed how well the same joke is received when told by different men with different levels of attractiveness to women. If she thinks you're haaaaawwwwwwwt, every lame joke you tell is now the height of comedic talent. So a "hay bb want sum fuk" dm at 1230am is now a perfectly delivered sonnet from a Shakespearean romance to them.

Or at least they have an interest in portraying it as such instead of just admitting they were horny and had poor standards.

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Granted, she may not be the most reliable narrator when it comes to portraying these "dates". After all, most men have noticed how well the same joke is received when told by different men with different levels of attractiveness to women.

True, but given the fact that she probably f*cked every decent looking dude in town already (judging by HER version of events), that might not even apply to her anymore. Probably too jaded for that.

In my experience, you can get a girl wet just by saying the right thing at the right time. That however takes COUNTLESS interactions with other girls before to get right and by the time you are really good at charming with words, women aren't that much of a priority anymore. That being said: I have lost count of the women I was with that told me "nobody else could talk about things on my level!" (my meaning herself) and "her level" was just the same flirty and semi-interesting stuff that worked on every basic b*tch out there.

Her "level" is something an experienced man can mass-produce at a moment's notice. Since nobody ever told her that, she thinks any date with a guy who properly seduces her is "special" and cannot believe she is ghosted. That she never contributed anything worth mentioning never once crossed her mind ...

[–]NeldotJr. Hamster Analyst 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her "level" is something an experienced man can mass-produce at a moment's notice. Since nobody ever told her that, she thinks any date with a guy who properly seduces her is "special" and cannot believe she is ghosted. That she never contributed anything worth mentioning never once crossed her mind ...

Spot on. This sums it all up.

[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

by the time you are really good at charming with words, women aren't that much of a priority anymore

Cause? Or effect? I vote the latter.

[–]polakfuryInvested heavily in Questions pre-2008 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He created all that, she just showed up.

do you believe its really that simple with the woman doing absolute shit during the date other than fuck and even Chads like Im out lol

I just wanted to ask

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

do you believe its really that simple with the woman doing absolute shit during the date other than fuck and even Chads like Im out lol

Well ... if he ghosts her after the date, then yes. It is that simple. If she did f*ck all, he'd keep in touch.

Speaking from experience.

[–]Vikingbeard1Jr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or they literally only intended to have sex and leave to begin with, as so many men and women do. She's all like "I'm going to get Prince Charming by being an unpaid street whore!" and the men are like "Free street whore! Score!" and then leave thinking they both got what they came for. I can't help but like how all the mind games and innuendo and shit that women love to do, and brag about doing, is biting women in the ass. It's like swapping the contacts of the person who is about to drive you down the highway at 80MPH as a prank; what could possibly go wrong!?

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't help but like how all the mind games and innuendo and shit that women love to do, and brag about doing, is biting women in the ass.

Well, yes and no.

The main thing here is that women, afraid to death of rejection and very attracted to men that take charge, have a very INDIRECT approach to picking up men. This can actually be quite charming, provided the woman has other qualities than just her looks.

However: As you put it quite precisely, women set themselves up to fail with that indirect way of pursuing romance because they never negotiate terms clearly out of fear of rejection. They therefore keep running into the same problem over and over and over .... picture a fly that keeps hitting a window. The definition of insanity, dictated by fear alone.

So what you said is accurate, provided it's a woman with little to no value with regards to commitment.

[+]karluvonne 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You could have stopped after the very first line. Seems obvious.

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Call it an "executive summary" for those of you who are in a hurry.

[–]88Double 83 points84 points85 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

“Emotional rapport” after 1st date 😂🤣 fuck me sideways

[–]kidruhilrefused to play 2nd fiddle to saint overdose 79 points80 points81 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She has to say that to convince herself she's not just a giant slut offering nothing but holes.

[–]FUJB46 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because when she meets up with the guys who aren’t Chad’s she can use that as an excuse “mUh ChEmIsTrY wAsNt ThErE”. These guys might want to legit go on another date with her but whos got time for regular old fashioned dates when there’s a line of Chad’s to fuck?

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep it’s called the tingles. And they seem to know instantly. You could have a girl chase you for a date (rare but sometimes happens) and then basically instantly switch off and go cold once you meet in person once the tingles are not there (not tall enough, not dressed right , whatever)

[–]kidruhilrefused to play 2nd fiddle to saint overdose 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You right

[–]soytuamigo 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

aRe yOu sTiLl lIvInG In tHe vIcToRiAn aGe?

[–]AurelianWayJr. Hamster Analyst 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL

Just because I bang the town bicycle doesn't mean I want to marry her. I guess I'm just a prude stuck in the 1860's.

[–]cel-shaded 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She connected with his height and jaw.

[–]lurkerhasarisenA Strategist Among Tacticians 72 points73 points74 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

The guys she "gets vibes for" are the same small subset of men that every other slut just like her "gets vibes for." She's not hopping in the sack with Glen from Accounting, after all. She has sex with attractive, cocky strangers based on tingles - nothing more and nothing less. Those guys have no reason to go out of their way on her behalf after she gives up the goods. In fact, it works against their interests to do so: she's clearly not a "long-term-potential" girl, and given the sexual variety available to that tiny subset of men, she's not worth hopping back in the ring for Round 2, either. Like I said of a woman I know who threw herself at a Chad who had six other women in rotation: "She's never going to be Mrs. Chad... she's just three holes for him to ejaculate into."

Apparently this chick can't even manage to be some guy's occasional booty call.

She played the only card she had, she got what she wanted when she wanted it, and now she's complaining about the rules of a game that women like her wrote and that she agreed to when she decided to play.

Oh well...

[–]Cristoff13Jr. Hamster Analyst 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My thoughts exactly. Giving sex on the first date isn't a good idea, but its not her main problem. Women will usually only have sex on the first date (assuming money isn't involved) with men they feel intense attraction to - men well out of their league.

She's throwing herself at Chad, but Chad has no reason to stick around beyond the first round of sex, and if she wasn't offering easy sex he wouldn't want anything to do with her at all.

The main problem is she completely overestimates her own attractiveness, while having a completely skewed view of how attractive the average guy is. To her mind, Chad is the average guy, while guys in her league are invisible to her.

[–]I-am-the-lulAll Ass No Stick 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hookup culture gave women far more access to both hot and bad-boy dick than they could hope for, the benefits were validation from what they feel is the best men (even though a lot of these men were questionable at best) as well as the rough sex and alpha seed (even if pregnancy was not necessarily what they were seeking at the time).

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The downsides is that they have fooled themselves into believing they can gain commitment from the guys they wanted more from with their magical vaginas, when as you mentioned before, these guys are "dumpster-diving" these girls for easy sex and little else, that and that they have ruined themselves for any real relationships by engaging in this behaviour.

[–]braucifur 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't just hookup culture this is also the progressive/welfare state. If the state will provide for her she isn't as likely to be concerned with Chad absconding after donating his "alpha seed".

There will be a government check waiting for her every couple of weeks and she "don't need no man" she a "strong independent woman".

She will continue dalliances with the Chads but will eventually have a side hustle as beta bux fisherman because while those government checks are enough to get by they aren't enough for much more than that and she is a high value woman and obviously deserves the finer things in life like luxury clothes, travel, etc.

[–]FUJB46 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They aren’t invisible, she’s just repulsed by them. She probably labels them as “prudes” or something because they wanted to take her on a regular date. She wants to be pumped and dumped so let her.

[–]soytuamigo 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some do repulse them but most are just invisible to them. This has been scientifically proven.

[–]OracleofFl 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The guys she "gets vibes for" are the same small subset of men that every other slut just like her "gets vibes for." She's not hopping in the sack with Glen from Accounting, after all. She has sex with attractive, cocky strangers based on tingles - nothing more and nothing less.

That is gold right there. This totally escapes women.

[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women don't play the game. They play like roosters.

They strut and honk after each move, then jump on the board, shit all over it and scatter the pieces.

Then they want to know where the other player is going.

He's going away from you darling. Away from you.

[–]polishknightusaSr. Winged Hussar 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I've debated with Amy Alkon before (the writer of this column) and she asked me to not comment on her forum anymore.

Her socio-biological opinion on women's reasoning for being more "choosy" because they make babies is largely common belief even amongst red-pillers but consider that during the ancient days of humanity, pre-civilization, women largely gathered food on their own and hence they were taken by aggressive men (bad boys) or bribed with food (the oldest professional). Modern dating does appear to mimic these conditions.

But... since say ancient civilization onward, women didn't get to choose their mates in this fashion. The first societies were run by family patriarchies (the alpha males) and women were allocated according to the male patriarchs, typically the father (hence that awkward scene in The Bachelor where the guy asks yet another father for permission to marry his daughter, if he picks her.)

At no time in human history, up to now, were women accorded social and physical protection via a welfare state and legal rights AND able to engage in sexual hypergamy. In pre-civilization, if a lion or opposition tribe grabbed a woman, he wouldn't risk his neck white knighting to protect her so she could shag a bad-boy caveman.

This is reptile behavior.

[+]sledwards8317 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

What happened was "provider" and "mate" became separate classes. Used to be, if a woman messed around on her supposed mate, she was outed and shamed by society and that was it - she was damaged goods and had a high chance of not finding a "provider" in a society where women were not equal in terms of jobs and pay.

[–]polishknightusaSr. Winged Hussar 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The modern notion of equality is laughable because before the enlightenment period, society was feudalistic. Only prior to civilization were things relatively "equal" and then it was a survival culture: A woman could be "equal" to man if she didn't mind a lion eating her while she gathered berries on her own or even learned to hunt. Good luck to her.

It's amusing how evolution has trapped women into submission similar to Ted Kaczinski's warning against technology: When someone becomes dependent, whether upon the state or machines, one becomes, well, dependent. One can't be a "liberated independent queen" who also needs someone else to pay all the bills without continually fretting that, well, what if your supposed entitlements are taken away? That's why they are so paranoid and angry all the time. The darn peasants might rise up against their betters like the Cylons.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

bad-boy caveman

Captain Cavechad!!!

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Found him! Look at all the chicks he gets! I'm so jealous, bro.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy when you're packing a big club. Two of them. I mean look at the size of those feet.

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Amy Alkon = Reptile!

[–]polishknightusaSr. Winged Hussar 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She asked me to eff off her forum because I said that paid dinner dates are a form of prostitution. Fundamentally, as long as men are paying for women's companionship, the men are either johns or simps. She doesn't like that and told me off.

Her advice to men is often ok, but as a feminist apologist she only purple pills men immunizing them from the red pill.

[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVP 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep commenting on her site. She should be tolerant of different viewpoints.

[–]Cristoff13Jr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hunter gatherer/early agricultural societies have fairly strict rules on marriage and sex which try to give beta males a good chance at a young wife.

You can't run a human hunter gatherer band like a sealion colony with 1 or 2 alpha males hogging all the females and the other males all gathered resentfully on othe periphery.

You're right though that in practice these rules often break down, with women cheating and men abducting wives.

[–]polishknightusaSr. Winged Hussar 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hehehe. Actually, pirate ships and nomads were incredibly democratic. Think about it: They could vote with their feet at any time, load all their stuff on a horse, and take off. The leader had be prove his value regularly and share most of the wealth with the rest. Only when agricultural societies were created could vast sums of wealth be created and massive organizations dedicated to protecting the status quo first and foremost.

That's why we fret about making sure the wealthy get their tax cuts. :-)

A man or his family would be responsible for taking care of his wife and children. Extended families would help out if the family was on good terms.

[–]FUJB46 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Good Lord she’s a legit whore. How many of these guys are there she’s laid on her back for??

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Whores charge for it, she doesn't. She's giving it away and can't get repeat customers. The fact that she can't even get plated is a massive red flag.

[–]skint_backProud Scrote 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Starfish sex

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Possibly, but as I pointed out to another user there are plenty of guys who'll take starfish sex and come back for more. I mean a nut's a nut.

I'm reminded of the time someone asked Kirk Douglas what he looked for in a woman and he replied something to the effect of "for her to be there."

[–]skint_backProud Scrote 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, it’s either starfish sex or she’s verifiably batshit insane- one or the other.

I’m going to lean hard against it being both starfish sex and her being insane, because in my experience, mentally insane women tend to be a great lay.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That can be the case, but it does depend a lot on just how her insanity manifests itself.

[–]skint_backProud Scrote 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is going to sound really bad, but I’m gonna say it anyway…

In my experience, women who became sexually-active at a very young age (and often times, though not always, this is a result of sexual abuse) are hyper- sexual and a wildcat in the sack… absolute awesome lay. BUT…. These are also the ones who are friggin batshit insane in the head.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some women are just naturally hypersexual, but there are too many others that seem to think that they need to be to keep guys coming back. Give me a choice between a chick that's not terribly good in bed and one that goes into some strange act she picked up from watching porn and I'll take the former every time. Those who aren't so good at sex can often be taught while the ones who go for an Oscar™ tend to have a lot to unlearn.

[–]manfrom-nantucket 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Probably a ballpark

[–]GaiinahatJr. Hamster Analyst 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Get your hotdogs here!"

[–]reignoferror00 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Insert the applicable "hotdog down a hallway" trope here.

[–]Sea_Chocolate9166 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Around 500 ish. She prolly went to more dates but some of them turned out to be betas so no sex for them.

[–]soytuamigo 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

These sluts must have a body count 5 times that amount. 500-1000 are Chad numbers, they might be attractive to women but they STILL have to do way more work to get those lays than a physically attractive slut. A slut can get laid multiple times daily with no effort whatsoever.

[–]BeetsbyGreens 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I knew one absolutely repulsive slut during my early adult years that used to get laid by multiple men daily. Her nickname at work was Mike Wazowski because she had no tits, hank-hill ass, and a big round gut. Her face was probably the best feature but some people called her Sid the sloth because her eyes were pretty far apart.

She had a nauseating Amy Schumer sense of humor, a drug habit, and an utter inability to control her own actions. She slept with at least two men a day. All a woman has to do to get quadruple digits is to spend a year never saying no.

[–]SvartanattenJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, if so she's an amateur as she doesn't get paid?

[–]RabbitNRaccoon 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I thought kissing, dancing and flirting, groping could help determine sexual chemistry. I don't understand why PIV needs to take place.

Your body knows upon meeting someone if they are attractive to you. Kissing them furthers this attraction.

I feel like people like this woman need an excuse for everything. You do not need to risk potential STD to find out if you have sexual chemistry.

If you want to fuck them, just do it. But own it.

[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Asking a woman to own it is like asking a Democrat to tell the truth.

It's just not gonna happen. They lie. They deflect. Nothing is EVER their fault.

[–]RabbitNRaccoon 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I swear I didn't think that was much of a thing. I'm a loner and spend a lot of time alone. And I don't get along with many women anyway. So I was quite surprised when I watched some Kevin Samuels videos and saw the degree of side-stepping, deflecting, and flat out lying.

I didn't think it was that bad.

People say that women are illogical. Nah. An illogical person will walk right into the trap you set. But those women were very adept at avoiding every single one. They know logic. They simply refuse to use it. And then countering with non-arguements that made no sense.

This is what happens when you give everyone a platform, and create "safe spaces" in which stupid people aren't being told they are being stupid.

So many videos of women on YT, Tiktok, Insta etc are bizarre in that they are flagrantly anti-logic. Like they will just say what ever. 1+1 is 5. And if you try to counter them, they rally in numbers and scream louder.

It's socially acceptable gaslighting. And men are still sleeping with them. Women like this don't like for male attention ever.

Women are allowed to just say whatever they want. Men laugh at them. Make fun of them. Then reproduce with them. Men have selected for these traits. So it's on them. I find the shit unattractive ans refuse to be friends with women that behave/think like alot of these women.

[–]BeetsbyGreens 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People say that women are illogical. Nah. An illogical person will walk right into the trap you set. But those women were very adept at avoiding every single one. They know logic. They simply refuse to use it. And then countering with non-arguements that made no sense.

Try setting a logic trap for a chicken. The chicken isn't going to wander into it; The chicken is just going to look at you sideways and shit on ground in front of you. Does that mean the chicken understands logic but refuses to use it, or perhaps is the chicken so divorced from logic that it avoids it because it doesn't even understand it?

[–]panzer22222 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A woman having sex with a guy really doesnt determine if a guy will want a relationship or not. All the guys I know in long term relationships started with women who had sex on the first date.

Its not the sex that determines if the guy will stay, its what else she bring to the table. If all she has is sex to offer and is otherwise a pain in the asre sure is going to get a lot of pump and dumps.

Women who are pleasant to be with, kind to you and met min attractiveness AND are about your level, e.g. 6 dating a 6. Then the guy will usually want more than sex. Problem is women will have the first qualities but she bangs a 9 while she is a 6.

[–]black_snake_m0anWahmyns 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

as a woman with a few long term relationships, I had sex early on with all of them except the first who I lost my virginity to. Second date for two, first date for one, and third for the other.

When I thought a guy was way out of my league, I didn’t have sex with them for 3+ dates because I didn’t want to get ghosted. And I got ghosted before ever having sex with them.

[–]ONEJOHNSON 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing else to offer aside from mediocre holes, and all the men have come to the same realisation that the effort does not have a worthwhile pay-off...

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Three possible explanations: you're really really bad at sex, you're so crazy or otherwise intolerable that you're not worth enduring for easy sex, or you're constantly shooting for men far above your status who bang you just for the point.

A fourth explanation does present itself: it might be all three.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ll take option four

Option 3 is pretty much all women now Option 2 - well she is writing online about giving out casual hookups with no success

And then option 1 has been discussed elsewhere here - she isn’t even at booty call status (which to be fair could mainly be due to option 3)

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm going with door number four also. Number one is pretty weak since a woman has to be astonishingly bad in bed to not at least get plated. I mean plenty of guys will line up just for free starfish sex. There have to be other factors involved.

[–]Cristoff13Jr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you're constantly shooting for men far above your status who bang you just for the point

This is most likely, yet why doesn't the advice columnist mention it as a possibility? Probably because telling a woman she isn't as attractive as she thinks she is, and she needs to lower her standards, is considered misogynistic and offensive now. I had a comment on one of the relationship reddits deleted for this.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. The very idea that some women might just be unattractive physically, mentally, or emotionally is strictly forbidden in most online spaces. It's as unpopular a concept as the silly idea that men should be allowed to have preferences when it comes to women.

[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Doubtful. Crazy almost always means "good at sex" so the criteria are mutually exclusive. She might be good at sex and still be confrontational and intolerable but she's not gonna be as crazy as a Wuhan bat AND bad at sex. I think God has a sense of humor.

[–]black_snake_m0anWahmyns 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

My ex best friend was legit crazy, diagnosed schizophrenic with a plethora of other issues, and was also bad in bed. I know this only because she forced me to watch sex tapes of her and her boyfriend and it was obvious she had no idea what she was doing.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

While my only (confirmed) schizophrenic started out slow but was very much willing to learn.

[–]black_snake_m0anWahmyns 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Every girl is willing to learn if she likes you enough. When someone says a girl is "crazy in bed" I don't picture a girl that's been trained that way, I picture someone whose been that way since day one.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you've taken a number of women to bed have you?

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As I pointed out to another user, the "crazy ones are better in bed" thing does depend a lot on just how her mental illness(es) manifest. Insanity can lead to low inhibition, high inhibition, or all points in between.

[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WE are not talking about depression or psychosis but about the "female" mental illnesses of BPD, being overemotional, having bouts of insane shit fits and the like. Those who are crazy in this way- that is, they have their female nonsense dialed up to 500- are MUCH more likely to be insane in the sack as well.

[+]PopularBug5 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the past people see if they have chemistry by working together, being friends, having conversations over tea, with the greatest amount of 'kino' being holding hands. Yes, for millennia this had worked terribly well as an indicator that a person is going to be compatible with you.

But now the test is by fucking, on the first date, with alcohol included.

And women like in the OP article wonder why her Husband Detector test is failing miserably.

[–]Joaquino7997 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's wrong with men?

Nothing if they were able to sustain an erection long enough to pump her before dumping her.

[–]Ok-Adeptness4906 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting drunk and having sex on the first date has been scientifically proven to be the best way for a women to find a husband.

[–]PopRevolutionary1475 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You idiot, it's because you give up your box easily.

No man trust a woman as a life long partner if she's too eager to lay in bed

[–]mr_kukRespaldado El Matador de Putas 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a vampire having lived in Victorian England I can confirm that pump and dump was the order of the day. It was the men getting so much no strings attached sex, from women that enjoyed being pumped and dumped, that decided that women needed to suffer and invented marriage.

There is no truth other than the one eternal truth, men can't be happy without making women suffer.

Women were incredibly free back then, as many as 98% had amazing careers and were travelling the world finding themselves, this was before the invention of modern transportation. Women can do anything if only men get out of their way, logistics be dammed!

[+]UhBallsDontTalkBack 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't the men have simply decided there wasn't any sexual chemistry? Or decided they weren't interested in them?

It never seems to even cross these women's minds that men, after going on a date, decide they're uninterested.

[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine[🍰] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah funny thing is men don't know for sure if a woman is going to be a satisfying lay or not until, you know, they actually have sex with her.

There's a reason so many men get involved with cray cray bunny boilers, and it isn't because they like that sort of personality. It's because the sex was good enough to get them to overlook the red flags for a time at least.

It's telling that the article writer can't get them to do even that.

[–]SvartanattenJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It means she isn't pleasent enough to be around or inside...

Also highly unlikely that she meets the men that she spread her legs for criterias. Add that they most likely are spinning plates, she isn't even worth being a plate... Thats depressing.

[–]sshevie 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Long story shot is its cool to bang on the first date, but you do not want to keep dating a chick that bangs on a first date.

[–]OwenWentFullMGTOWskilled at detecting daddy traps 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ghosted by Chad after one lay, the ultimate sting.

[–]soytuamigo 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This rudeness you’re experiencing — all these women treating you like a disposable object instead of a person with feelings — isn’t caused by app use, per se. The problem, as I explain in “Good Manners for Nice People Who Sometimes Say F*ck,” is that we are now “living in societies too big for our brains”: vast, transient “strangerhoods.”

Oh why didn't they say so earlier? Guess we're all justified in being insensitive, impolite pieces of shit then. Not our fault! We just "didn’t evolve to be around strangers and aren’t psychologically equipped to live in a world filled with them because the psychology still powering our thinking (and behavior) today is adapted for small ancestral hunter-gatherer societies."

[+]withrowsprings 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is not easy. Just user friendly.

[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have a terrible personality and the pussy isnt good enough to make men stick around for seconds.

There, i explained it for you.

[–]messmaker907 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So uninteresting and a lousy lay.

[–]hatefulreason 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there was a strand up comedian who said "women who don't have sex on the first date are women who know they are bad at sex. i mean have you ever heard a man say: oh man she fucked me so well, i'm definitely not calling her back! ?"

[–]Hunk_Maggot 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they all ghosted me after sex. ------Confused

What is confusing? the fact you sold yourself as a object and not as a person? then that means that you are not interesting at all, just a fleshlight with legs.

[–]SaiannaProbation until 11/1/2021 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I'm not the bad one using my wagina as highway for chads cocks.

It's men that are bad (not the chads, though). THEY are irresponsible! not me!"

Also love when articles have no commentary allowed. That'd be too risky. Someone might say few truths that sting.

It's nothing more than spewing sermons on woke'ish site.

[+]Optimal-Shelter-3827 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

really?

[+]alphamsh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's because your personality is shitty and your pussy is too trash for men to put up with it. If you were good in bed, men would have overlooked a lot of flaws but you aren't.

Not that difficult to get.

[+]Still-Ad-2460 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nowt sure, I love sex and what's wrong with having sex on the first date. Hell if I bang someone I am going to want to bang them again for sure.

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