Increasing SMV if you're a fat guy

[deleted] · 2015-06-01T15:24:35+00:00

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AlphaAsFAQ · 2015-06-01T11:39:01+00:00

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thor_away92 · 2015-06-01T13:04:28+00:00

Do you see how you've managed to rationalize with every post here why you shouldn't need to lose weight first? Shut up and lose weight. There's your first problem. You're touchy and sensitive and being over weight is not helping. And no one here really gives a fuck why you think losing weight shouldn't be a priority to gain SMV. But it is. So enough going in circles about that if you want help.

My doc said the best way to really lose weight os a gastric bypass

Uhhhh no fucking shit dude. Of course the $15,000 option is the only one that works in his paid mind.

Anyways if you want bitches as a big guy you need to a fat badass.

"Fat_and_depressed" is a terrible start btw.

"I'm fat how to up SMV?" "stop being fat" "But blah blah blah i can't"

See: Biggie Smalls

Stellar_Wanderings · 2015-06-01T14:44:45+00:00

You don't look fat - you are fat.

So much bullshit with your hamstering. Stop lying to yourself and others. You are fat, and swelled to your present land rest mass through a bullshit diet of sugars, condishuns and wishful thinking. Hyperthyroidism is responsible for nothing more than 5-20 pounds.

You will never have any SMV while you display a complete lack of self-discipline on a fundamental self-preservation level. You cannot even control your intake, whatever the situation; your willpower is worthless to not only others, but yourself.

It's not that people enjoy you in their panoramic view of reality, it's that you're so obviously an elephant. In the same room.

A fat and unhealthy person at best. You are not part of the sexual landscape, why the fuck would any self-respecting female go near your smelly globule of flesh.

You are permanently stuck being nothing more than what not to go near. Obeasts do not get the girls. They get early deaths.

Lose the weight fatass And don't bitch about SMV until you lose it.

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Circ-Le-Jerk · 2015-06-01T16:01:31+00:00

That's some fat logic right there.

Leastohm · 2015-06-01T11:24:58+00:00

Kill all empty carbs. Only eat fruit before and after workouts. Eat plenty of vegetables, meats and healthy fats. That helped me drop 20 in two months an I've continued losing slowly until now where I'm ready to start bulking. I also ate as much as I want, it just had to be healthy, so I kept things like nuts and avocados with me for snacks.

I don't know anything about your medical condition, so consult a physician first, but that above worked wonders for me.

NiceTryDisaster · 2015-06-01T14:31:53+00:00

/r/keto

FrameWalker · 2015-06-01T18:49:39+00:00

How are you determining your calories? Do you weigh out your food beach and every day? Do you ever sneak in a cookie? (Up to 500 calories) please tell me you cut alcohol and soda

MrEiffel · 2015-06-01T10:51:33+00:00

What's the cause for the Lazy Pituitary? From what little I know it's often a tumor? In which case you have more important things to worry about...

processedfoodkills · 2015-06-01T11:30:45+00:00

I don't usually buy into the medical reasons for being overweight. I don't doubt that you have been having trouble with weight loss, but I think doctors tend to throw around matabolism and neurological disorders as a reason for weight loss like they are handing out candy on halloween. That said you could have something more serious going on than a lazy pituitary. Have you gotten a scan of your brain to make sure?

Weight loss is not nearly as complicated as people are led to believe. Have you been taking in less calories than you burn? Have you been tracking everything you eat (I mean everything)? How consistently do you exercise? It is difficult to stick to a routine in the beginning, especially if you aren't seeing the results you expected.

If you can't lose the weight your SMV is going to be capped well below what you would be capable otherwise. If I were you I would get my brain checked and redouble my efforts. Eat less, eat clean, exercise more. It took me a few times on and off over the years to eventually get to a place where my workout routine is consistent.

canadianfitguy · 2015-06-01T14:16:14+00:00

My comment might be slightly different (even though I agree with what has been said so far) but my job lends itself to dealing with people with no alternative.

If you are a big guy and have no hope of losing weight, why not get hugely strong? There are lots of women out there into guys who can toss them around and are jacked. I'd say if you have no better choice, keep getting healthy but lift a ton and use your size to your advantage. It might not make you an 8 to most women, but it would to some. Also, realize that only certain women are attracted to these guys and find them.

RPthrowaway123 · 2015-06-01T14:47:25+00:00

Lose weight. Don't give me that "I can't lose weight!" bullshit, buddy. EVERYONE CAN EXERCISE. EVERYONE CAN EAT HEALTHY. You don't have a "lazy pituitary", you have a lazy YOU.

It might not be easy. Maybe you will have it harder than some other people. Boo-fucking-hoo. Get off your ass, get to the gym, and maintain a STRICT diet.

The things that raise SMV won't change. You've been dealt a hand, all you can do it play it. Guess what, no woman is going to get wet for a fat guy and she isn't going to have some sudden revelation that fat guys turn her on just because "muh cundishuns!"

This is tough love. Now get the fuck up and get to work, just because you're pituitary is lazy doesn't mean you have to be lazy too.

bertmaklinFBI · 2015-06-01T15:49:00+00:00

It you actually have something medically wrong with you (which i think is bullshit) take the correct medicine to fix it. Go get other opinions because as others have said, if your doctor says you have a bad pituitary but then you can lose weight with GB surgery, your doctor is either a moron or scamming the shit out of you. And you are an idiot for believing that. Educate yourself.

Get your hands on some T3 and work out.

Cycix · 2015-06-01T18:38:41+00:00

Dude. Check out intermittent fasting. When my ex and I broke up I snapped and started hitting the weights again. This time I followed a diet and I'm currently sticking to it. In two weeks I lost 8 pounds of FAT. Do some research on lean gains, and throw that lazy pituitary bullshit out the window.

edwardhwhite · 2015-06-01T12:56:01+00:00

1 are you lifting? 2 are you exercising in the morning in the fasted state?

aussiex3 · 2015-06-01T14:48:07+00:00

Find a doc to put you on Testosterone Replacement Therapy, if you can't find one do it yourself. Check out the /r/steroids wiki.

Once your hormone levels are sorted out losing weight will be less problematic. Seeing as your a big guy I suggest a PSMF until your at least under 15% bodyfat, being on TRT will help you retain muscle.

Remember to lift and sleep.

imadeapoopie · 2015-06-01T17:34:47+00:00

Now, apart from my weight, I'm outgoing and funny and charming. I'm the center of attention in a group. However, most girls just automatically turn dry around me, just consistently saying that I'm an amazing friend.

Everything everyone else is telling you is the truth - and I can see that you don't like it.

Be that as it may - the quote above is hinting at another problem - you probably have a lot of conversations with girls, they think you're a good listener and so on... you're probably also boring as hell. So you talk about them, their lives, their guys etc. You're not charming, you're a sponge. you're agreeable.

So your SMV is weak and you're un-interesting - that's what I'm reading.

Fat Joe, Biggy Smalls - big guys that had it - they had money and fame because they were interesting, successful, not the other way around.

Super-Saiyajin · 2015-06-01T20:12:34+00:00

You can either lose weight or start getting used to only being able to pick up fat and ugly chicks.

P.S. Most fat chicks won't even look at another fat guy!

Super-Saiyajin · 2015-06-01T20:13:44+00:00

I've been exercising with a solid regimen and diet but I lost only 4kgs over 6months.

Bullshit! Your diet is absolute shit or your exercising is absolute shit. Get your fat ass on a treadmill and jog for 1 hour a day and come back when you realize you weren't even exercising before.

aguy01 · 2015-06-01T16:38:21+00:00

Here's the deal. Everyone commenting in here is completely ignorant about weight loss with hormonal issues. Cutting more calories and exercising more is going to fuck you up.

You have two options. Either pay for hormone replacement with TRT and Thyroid Hormone (for the rest of your life), or try to fix your shit naturally. Read this article.

You need to fix your hormones. That means giving them adequate carbohydrate and fat. That means not killing yourself with exercise. You will have a long road to recovery, but in the end, doing it naturally is your best bet. I'd recommend you spend some time eating 3000-3500 calories a day (try to keep it clean but don't be anal. You need to get the calories one way or another. Potatoes and rice-based meals are the healthiest calorie-dense options), walking every day, and maybe do some light HIIT training once a week. Don't do intermittent fasting while recovering.

You are going to gain some more fat initially, probably what you lost + some tax, but your weight gain will stabilize, and you may even begin losing weight while eating that much (as you increase your metabolism you may drop weight that was a product of inflammation because your immune system will become stronger). Your dick will work better, you'll be more horny, you'll have rock hard boners every single morning, your mood will improve, your anxiety will decrease, everything will be better.

Monitor your body temperature with an oral thermometer. Your temperature should be in the 98's upon waking. Lower temps are a sign that your Thyroid is underactive.

Eventually (honestly it will probably be more like 6 months since that's how long you've been starving yourself) you can start losing weight with very moderate calorie reduction and HIIT (lifting) and continuing the walks. Make sure you get boners every single morning. Go to sleep before midnight.

One last thing - remove dietary estrogen. This means 'conventionally raised' meat. They give animals artificial estrogens to fatten them up, and those compounds are still active when you eat the meat. Google 'how to reduce estrogen' for more info, this is important.

Edit: For more information on healing your hormones check out 180degreehealth.com and Matt Stone's books. The only thing I disagree with him about is using junk food and extra high calories for refeeding.

spoetnick · 2015-06-01T13:05:42+00:00

Sucks you're fat. Everyone else has told you enough about that part, and I couldn't agree more. Even with a good excuse, fat people are still fat. Being fat is unattractive. Being unattractive is and always will be a significant drop in your smv.

The good thing is, looks aren't the only thing that influence your smv. Ok, you're fat. Accept that and accept you won't attract chicks by your looks.

Now if you have to have a shot at getting a chick in the rp way, just have your other shit in order. Show that you have plenty of money. Be confident. Be funny. Have a idgaf attitude. Dress well, but dress for the body you have, not the body you want. Go out. Be social. Be great at many things and proud of it.

This will attract a certain type of lady. If you have enough money some gold digging slut will find you. Looks can be overlooked. You won't have the animalistic alpha attraction, but acting like a good provider can get you some pussy.

Just don't make the mistake of ltr-ing anyone who's fucking you out of pity or for the money.

needathrowawayplease · 2015-06-01T12:56:00+00:00

Generally speaking a not-fat guy has it easier.

But there's always a niche.

Same for short guys.

There exist women who prefer fat dudes or short dudes.

So if your goal isn't to spin plates but just find one girl, then yes you can be successful. You just need to get rejected 5x more often than the guy who isn't fat. Which sucks. But if your question here is "is what I want ever attainable?" then the answer is yes. But if your question is "is what I want attainable for me with the same level of ease as it is for a really genetically gifted dude?" then the answer is no.

There is a minority of women who prefer fat dudes.

If you ever read AskReddit or AskWomen you'll find that there are plenty of commenters (both male and female) who will claim this. Some of them are assuredly out of shape themselves, but others will include in their comments that they themselves are small or in great shape. Chubby chasers exist within both genders.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/17zsgq/do_some_men_look_better_with_slightly_more_body/

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/29avza/in_dating_why_do_women_seem_way_more_accepting_of/cij9692

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/12bu5o/what_is_your_view_on_heavy_men/

You can choose to believe that a cute girl who prefers large dudes doesn't exist, or you can choose to believe that if you ask out a billion girls and go on 100 dates in the next couple years you'll find someone who loves you.

Which of those self-beliefs is more likely to lead you to what you want and to happiness? Seems like a simple answer to me, so what's the point of doing anything else?

EDIT: To be clear, self-improvement should still be a big part of any guys life. But you can't just disqualify yourself from the game because at present you aren't an Adonis. Anyone who does that is just shooting themselves in the foot needlessly.

Title	Increasing SMV if you're a fat guy
Author	fat_and_depressed
Upvotes	5
Comments	70
Date	June 1, 2015 10:05 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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