One it is.

boredathome19 · 2019-05-17T12:13:45+00:00

I have had great success with having a fun light hearted conversation via text. Don't text too much, just every few hours and make her smile when checking her phone. One girl told me her friends/parents asked her who she was texting because she was smiling so damn much.

Makes her have the emotional roller coaster - "why isn't he texting me for hours? Is he even interested?" to "oh my god, he is so funny/cute" etc.

It is possible to make an impact on her via text. Just don't be too available.

Onidramon · 2019-05-17T12:44:12+00:00

Sometimes I feel like the majority of TRP text game is the art of helping complete noobs quit cucking themselves by saying too much and revealing their virginity. It helps them cast a VERY wide and loose net to catch ovulating BPD chicks who are basically dying to trip and fall onto some available dick yesterday. It's like training wheels before you can confidently trust yourself to be your new self. It'll work with those at peak level manlust but it's not necessary to be a total robot when it comes to the rest. We're in a word-heavy buyer's market full of bots and cardboard cutout personalities, texting regular shit to build rapport within reason won't kill your game

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-17T14:29:50+00:00

Texting for logistics only, is a good way to get newbs and autists to stop fucking themselves over via text.

Once a guy gets a better handle on 'game' and reading women, and has a better idea of what NOT to say and how to lead, then he can begin introducing a little game over text.

BusterVadge · 2019-05-17T13:38:09+00:00

"Text for logistics only" is a general rule. It's to prevent newbies from killing attraction with inane text messages and lack of anticipation and mystery.

If you're going to turn a girl into a plate you need to give some comfort, and often that is over text. Just don't overdo it. Since you're experienced (you said you're a chad), you already know this from the previous women you've been playing with.

MentORPHEUS · 2019-05-17T14:57:41+00:00

This is a very good point you've brought up. As many have pointed out, it's best understood as a hard rule for inexperienced guys so they don't get caught up in unproductive texting that never leads further.

I've found it best to apply more strongly before you've met and escalated physically. In online dating, once you've made a connection, push for a first meeting sooner than later. If they won't commit to a meeting, you're in her stable of orbiters and probably being used for textual validation only.

Once you've met and she's delivered what YOU want (physical contact), it's fair dinkum to give her some of what SHE wants, some social dopamine fix.

You want to keep it on YOUR terms, and deliver on an intermittent reinforcement schedule. One young GF told of college boys who would autistically wait exactly one hour to respond to a text, you could set the master atomic clock by it.

If you find her becoming demanding and manipulative, like acting upset over response times, THEN dial it way back and see if she learns better or drops.

Texting itself isn't necessarily bad, getting sucked into the woman's frame is the problem this guideline is meant to address.

XXXMersenne · 2019-05-17T11:57:35+00:00

"was wondering why they all ghost me when I only text for logistics AFTER SLEEPING WITH THEM."

"and i followed TRP too religiously"

This is the unfortunate side of TRP where inexperienced newbies will take advice dogmatically.

The Map is not the terrain

Models of knowledge will only take you so far, then you have to DIY/Trial & Error/Freestyle and so on and so on.

Do not interpret TRP as a literal seduction Magic Pill; although it's one of the closest things to this, still, it is not it.

After sleeping with a chick you should ease the gas off the aggressive seduction game and build comfort. Aloof Beta-esque.

This is an excellent opportunity to take the pain of your experience to ingrain the lesson that executing commands robotically doesn't work in the long term because this is reality and in reality girls operate (partially) like humans. They're not plug n play excel formulas that you just have to punch the right logistics coordinates into ad infinitum.

Go out more, sober, and alone. for a few months. It'll be so extreme it'll sort you out nicely.

Kalikoenig · 2019-05-17T15:18:54+00:00

The redpill has taught me abundance and to lose, or at least not show any neediness. I think it swung me too far in the indifferent department. I have lost a couple of amazing girls due to being too cold and indifferent. This is in regards to texting for logistics only and from withholding verbal affection.

I think when you're first courting a girl, it's wise to keep texting to a minimum and to keep compliments and verbal affection near zero. However, as the weeks and months progress, girls need some comfort. Not texting all day or shower with compliments comfort, but they need some kind of carrot to know they aren't chasing a cold fish.

I used to be too needy, now I'm too much of a cold fish. After an amazing girl left me because she thought I didn't care, I've been introducing a bit more texting with girls I've already been out with and fucked a few times, and it draws them closer to me. I still seldom initiate the contact, but I'll send a few back and forths when she reaches out. I'll sometimes reply quickly and sometimes take hours. I consider it a gift if a girl reaches out and don't want to be a cold fish and she needs to know I appreciate it or she'll get a little bitter and stop reaching out to me as often. If a girl is reaching out, she's chasing. If a girl is chasing, she won't leave or ghost you. She needs more comfort and appreciation than I've been giving in the past.

The redpill is amazing and changed my dating life over the years, but I think it fails in some ways at explaining the specifics behind showing a little comfort and appreciation and turns many people into overly indifferent creatures that will push many women away.

Don't ever be needy, but don't be overly cold. Find that happy balance. If you can't text if you're busy, tell the girl it is so good to hear from her and you love it when she texts, but you're busy and can't chat and you're looking forward to kiss those sexy lips (whenever you're seeing her next). This is 1,000 times better than ignoring or giving a 2 word response (unless her initial text was a short, low effort one of course). You aren't texting all day but the girl knows you are happy to hear from her and she'll continue reaching out and chasing. This is what will give her butterflies and feel comfortable enough with you to let her feelings grow. Girls feelings grow slower than a mans and she won't let them grow if you're too needy and she won't let them grow if you're too indifferent.

GGrub8 · 2019-05-17T11:49:52+00:00

So, what kind of deep, emotional and awe-inspiring conversation are you going to have via texting? What kind of long-lasting memory that gives her tingles are you going to produce with emojis and grammar mistakes?

Why would a girl crave for text instead of real experiences that engrave your memory forever in her brain?

Every time you say something "meaningful" via texting it's an arrow you deliberately choose to not to hit the target with. It's wasted time and ammo. It also makes you feel "common" because every idiot is capable of texting, while very few have the willpower to reject her silly attempts to wrap you around her little finger.

Basically, it's just another compliance test: if you start texting, she'll get upset when you stop doing it. It's just another form of control. I'm aware that some guys can pull that off, but it's too easy to mess up and it doesn't really have any advantage. Low availability gives tingles and it's infinitely more useful as a tool than texting game in my opinion.

LilLoserFreny · 2019-05-17T15:29:13+00:00

To each his own. I hate texting so I really only text for logistics.

SeamusAwl · 2019-05-17T15:45:39+00:00

The advice is given to help those still unplugging. Sort of like what Bruce Lee says about a punch.

(Paraphraee) Before Kung Fu, a punch is just a punch. You start learning King Fu, and see it is soo much more than just a punch. Once you master Kung Fu, you see a punch is just a punch.

Newbs need help figuring things out. So the advice is given to help them. Once they become better versions and master their alpha game, they can text and break all the TRP rules because it isnt about the rules. Its about You and what you want out of life.

coolredpill · 2019-05-17T21:08:10+00:00

ive had two vastly different experiences with texting, and i used to always go for the texting-for-logistics-only approach

if she's into me and i didnt text her much, she would get offended, one bitch literally called me twice and sent shit ton of messages, culminating in a "fuck you", while i was busy at work.

if she wasnt into me and i didnt text her much, it just ended at that.

i honestly regretted all the bitches who were into me that ran away due to my logistical texting because let's be real, i wanted to smash. after i opened up the texting a bit more, it worked out better.

but then i came to a sad realization, that women placed such an astronomically high importance in how men communicated to them via phone and use texting as a basis to judge the men that they are into (cuz men they have no interest in do not exist in their minds). He barely texts me? must be quiet af like this in real life! Gross!

really sad how society is becoming

Edit: grammar & clarification

ComplexProjection · 2019-05-17T12:22:24+00:00

The problem of TRP theory, is that it is "built" by a lot of people, whom have all different level of comprehension of masculine and feminine sexual strategy, whom for a lot of them just hate women. And even the most accomplished redpiller often forget to take in account that women have a brain, only focussing on the instinct part.

So yeah, you should open your vision a bit, read some anthropologist's books, you will get a wider view.

ChadTheWaiter100 · 2019-05-17T12:42:26+00:00

I agree with this. When the founding fathers of TRP first started fucking bitches- you could get away with this shit. This day and age the game has evolved. Like I already said.

itiswr1tten · 2019-05-17T16:30:54+00:00

I've said this a MILLION times, but here it is again.

Practical TRP advice is written for socially stunted dudes who NEED hard and fast rules to stop being beta turds. Anyone who applies it will grow out of the binary and enter the spectrum of gray where CONTEXT IS KING.

TRP theory is where the more interesting stuff happens.

Sorry to hear you nuked a good opportunity, but if you're actually pulling just don't fuck it up next time. Ez pz

party_dragon · 2019-05-17T21:58:59+00:00

Huh? You don't only text for logistics AFTER SLEEPIGN WITH THEM! You fucking them means you win, it's your game now. Do whatever you want, don't lose frame long term but short term, play more "beta" comfort if you want LTR or keep them at arms length if you want a plate/don't care about losing them.

T-P-T-W-P · 2019-05-17T13:09:14+00:00

You have to realize that a big reason for this sub is to get all the skinny fat betas improved to the point where they may get their pee pee touched every once in awhile. Coinciding with high SMV, I’m confident enough to rock absolutely anything. If women understand you have options no matter what, you won’t lose that attraction by texting or really anything barring a meltdown of sorts or passage of a very long time tbh. But I’m glad you posted this. I’m starting to believe that this sub is mostly made up of two portions of people:

older men who are divorced, and either got or didn’t get pussy back in the day, maybe still do now
younger betas that don’t know how to touch a woman

From what I can tell, I am what TRP refers to as Chad. I have taken a fair amount of concepts from TRP and bettered myself further by them, but following everything to the last word is fucking retarded (and some of the sidebar is just that, fucking retarded). I’m young, make good money, own a successful side business, am tall, 10% bf, handsome, top 20 undergrad and MBA program etc. The women I like to be around are attractive and generally err on the side of wholesome rather than whore. These women value themselves because they are hot, not strippers, and can easily be with a high value male of their choosing. How do you think they feel if the only thing I text them is “Bar down the street, 8:30, see you there” ? Like I’m scheduling my one of several fuck appointments rather than a fun date, even though there might actually be shades of the former. I’m high SMV but not Leo Dicaprio, I come off like a cocksucker doing that. Just use this place as a toolbox and only use the tools you want. Some of this has changed my life for the better forever, and I laugh at how fckn dumb some of it is.

Irtotallynotrobot · 2019-05-17T13:02:55+00:00

The question you're really asking here: I think I've found a unicorn and I want to change my behavior now for this one girl, is that okay?

It's up to you man. The core of TRP is doing what you think is best. Maybe you'll prove the theories wrong, probably not. If what you're doing got you to picking up a girl you want to LTR, does it really make sense to start changing your behavior? She'll push for a relationship with you if she wants one on her own, all you have to do is play your cards right and don't turn into a bitch.

Just stay the course. Keep improving and gaming. Don't put too much value on her. The only reason to keep a particular girl around is if you want to have kids with them, if you think she's a good candidate for that then let it play out

caius100 · 2019-05-17T12:37:34+00:00

Not a single person on his purpose has fucking time for texting, neither the mood so to speak. If I'd been working for 8 hours, do you think Im in the mood for chatting about how she painted her fucking nails? All of you complaining about this show lack abundance and probably are not focused enough. "Im a chad" bla bla, you're full of shit man. Made a goal out of a woman, yet you're constantly pulling 9's and 10's. Chill the fuck out, Casanova.

Rkingpin · 2019-05-17T13:19:12+00:00

Was you in a LTR or what

In an LTR you obviously need to balance comfort with alpha traits like text for logistics

[deleted] · 2019-05-17T13:46:45+00:00

What are the green flags you speak of

Sake99 · 2019-05-17T13:59:48+00:00

Newbie here, what is texting for logistics? O.o

huggyblossom · 2019-05-17T17:21:45+00:00

If you used TRP as a toolbox, not as a Bible you would have found out there is a thread about 9s and 10s.

They are to be acted as bitches IN PERSON. You need to make comfort with them. They are bombarded with: my place, your place at XX hour daily. When you go with this line you are one of the crowd. When you build comfort via text and reach out of the crowd you will have the date.

On the date you act like a bad guy, not before. Push - pull, abundance - well now you're lucky to have me here princess, go on.

When you fail to improvise you loose. It's survival of the fittest after all.

adeptintact · 2019-05-17T18:20:03+00:00

You don't lose a girl due to texting for logistics only. There's more to this story and other reasons why you lost her. The fact that you caught oneitis for her is probably the most telling reason why it didn't work out.

PincheeWhey · 2019-05-17T21:28:08+00:00

Agreed. Texting only for logistics is a bit outdated for this day in age. Just don’t text every minute on then minute and don’t send 3 messages to her one message.

Carcrash1985 · 2019-05-17T13:03:55+00:00

I agree , I text only for logistics but also have small talk , but never deep conversations and I only match their message length / investment

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-18T02:51:12+00:00

It's a bit odd that you think yourself a Chad, but yet every girl you've texted only for logistics ghosts you?

If you were such a Chad, then the logistics thing wouldn't have such a big impact.

There is some other reason for all the ghosting.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-18T02:51:35+00:00

It's a bit odd that you think yourself a Chad, but yet every girl you've texted only for logistics ghosts you?

If you were such a Chad, then the logistics thing wouldn't have such a big impact.

There is some other reason for all the ghosting.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-18T02:51:46+00:00

It's a bit odd that you think yourself a Chad, but yet every girl you've texted only for logistics ghosts you?

If you were such a Chad, then the logistics thing wouldn't have such a big impact.

There is some other reason for all the ghosting.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-18T02:52:23+00:00

It's a bit odd that you think yourself a Chad, but yet every girl you've texted only for logistics ghosts you?

If you were such a Chad, then the logistics thing wouldn't have such a big impact.

There is some other reason for all the ghosting.

SkorchZang · 2019-05-18T07:23:29+00:00

It is very contextual. The texting only for logistics advice is for a beginner trying to get the basics right. Since most blue pill rejects have a bias toward texting way too much, you see where the advice is coming from.

Title	One it is.
Author	throwupaway187
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Date	May 17, 2019 11:19 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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