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[–]ohropax 65 points66 points67 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm actually exactly the opposite. Street approaches are super quick and when you get rejected you're off and away before she says no. No awkwardness.
While in a bar, you go over to her and spill your Taco Line, you get rejected, now what. You're gonna be there the whole evening with her in the same room. Most of the time she's with friends, so u get rejected in front of all her besties. Also you're probably the tenth guy that approached her that night.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. 1 bad approach can just completely sour your night at a bar, while in daygame you just walk a few blocks in a different direction and go again.
And groups are overwhelming. Women always try to paint guys who only go after girls who alone as predators or creeps, but in reality, why the fuck would I want to approach a girl who’s clearly busy having a good time with friends when I can just approach a girl who’s alone and not occupied? You don’t find girls who are alone nearly as much at bars as you do in daygame.
Daygame does run the risk of you building a reputation if you do it in the same area a lot, but it’s something you can also be really indirect in doing. Like you could just look like a really social guy and only go for contact info if you’re vibing, and the ones you didn’t hit it off with won’t even know you were hitting on them.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ahhhhh no. This is where advanced game comes in as well that you don't get from street approaches. Rejection can be a game. I've ended up making out with or fucking several girls who rejected at first. Basically show it doesn't affect you and dread game. Then it's on the girl who rejected to give you an IOI.
[–]Mmm91for 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This right here is the corruption of modern day thinking… “talking to people in person is advanced”. Before IG and all that social media, approaching women was the only way.. just talk to people like they’re humans you’ll be surprised at how many people a thirsting for a conversation.
[–]Landon1m 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think intent is important. If I’m just chatting with a girl randomly it’s not hard but if I find her super attractive and want to hit on her it’s then more difficult. I think intent is important.
[–]Mmm91for 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is but… you just hit the jackpot. Approach with the intention of improving your conversational skills / game. This is the trick to talking to anyone.
[–]IOnlyCameToArgue 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Blind leading the blind.
Or more accurately, the sexless leading the sexless.
This subreddit and most of the whole pick up community is so full of guys that pontificate and preach about something they don't actually do.
Guys get hypnotized by the fantasy of easily picking up beautiful women that they believe the biggest bullshitters on YouTube. They become like religious zealots the way they regurgitate these pick up guru's lines.
If the goal is to get laid walmart works, the street works, OLD works, trendy clubs work, dive bars work, going back to college really works, spending 70 hours a week at a male dominated job like driving a truck doesn't work. Etc.
Just talk to women where ever you are. Get out of your house and make female friends. -shower -get a hair cut. -get new clothes that fit and aren't wrinkled. -shitty shoes make you look like a bum -make eye contact -don't be fat -if you're short or bald just accept that you're playing on hard mode. -wash your car.
Oh fuck I became exactly what I sought to criticize.
[–]CJ_900 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol exactly, OP said cold approach is “advanced shit”, I used to do that when I was a school kid.
[–]learnbyrepetition 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And only OP can do such advanced thing because he’s immune to rejection, how dare us mere mortals even try to pick up girls at a Walmart?
[–]CJ_900 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously, some people live inside their heads too much.
[–]Superb-End6273 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I DO NOT believe that someone with a mindset like you will EVER fucking EVER in a million years be good at daygame. You allow these females to form YOUR self image about yourself. Why the fuck do you view yourself through the eyes of others? Because if you didn't you'd know that that shit is none of your business.
Stop spreading this bitch ass shit. Your killing yourself by doubting yourself and by rejecting yourself the opportunity to go out there in the daytime and approach those woman. You don't even trust yourself enough to be able to go to a fucking grocery store and approach these fucking woman and take it as a man.
Stop viewing the female as the success and see the success within yourself. The moment I've approached her I have succeeded bcuz I did my job. She is allowed to reject your ass, she is allowed to cuss you out, and she is allowed to ignore your ass. But guess what, I don't give a fuck bcuz my success is inevitable and it is not determined by some random ass chick.
[–]Still_Hughy 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I needed this. I work in a sales job and I’ve completely turned into a victim and have gone on defense since COVID. It’s bleeding into every area of my life.
I know this is heavy for Reddit, but your comment is the reason I follow this sub - this is not just about attraction, it’s about having a proactive mindset in our lives and going on offense. Thanks for the reminder.
[–]Superb-End6273 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Np👍
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I like your mindset. Your focus is internal, which is the the true source of confidence as well. If you approach someone you pushed through your fears and did the thing you wanted to do. That mean you did the right thing. And that’s it, whether she says yes or no doesn’t matter. It only represents her feelings, which say nothing about you. The only thing that says something about you are your own actions, and these were good in this situation.
[–]Competitive-Link-912 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah approaching girls at a wal mart sounds great online, but it’s not in real life. Go approach people in social situations where they are looking to be approached, not supermarkets.
Also that line you gave about shoes and tacos… lame.
I’m immune to rejection.. again lame.
If you really had feelings for a woman that you were dating and she didn’t reciprocate you would be sad. I’m not saying you would be depressed, but sad which is a normal feeling.
What you mean is I am immune to the impact of a woman’s initial filtering rejection. This is much more reasonable as no feelings are established.
If you want to approach a woman in the correct way when in a social setting, make eye contact, if she keeps smile, if she looks away, do the same and look back, if she is looking smile. Then approach and say hi and introduce yourself. This is normal the eye contact thing is simple, you look at things your attracted, both men and women.
Talking childish gibberish like shoes and tacos only sounds like it will work when you have no experience or only experience with highly invested girls. A highly invested girl will love the silliness, but they won’t when they don’t know you and will think you are a weirdo.
[–]Environmental_Cress2 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
this sub is hilarious. Every single day there’s a popular post that directly contradicts another
Every day
No wonder why you all are so confused
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Rule1 : Be attractive
Rule2 : Don’t be unattractive
Rule3 : follow whatever BS posts on here but don’t forget the above rules 👆
[–]Environmental_Cress2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with Rule 1 and 2. But only if “be attractive” includes more than physical attractiveness
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn’t exclude other forms of attractiveness. But that doesn’t mean physical attraction can be negotiated with those.
You wouldn’t choose a 300lb girl with a nice personality now would you?
[–]Jasonhardon 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes there is a lot of contradictory information out there that’s why field experience is super important so you can sort through the bullshit from the gems 💎
[–]Emotional_Slip_2481 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cause there isn't such a method to flirt everybody flirt in their diferent way
[–]Mr_ambitiouz 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Oh hey, I like your shoes so I had to come over to flirt. I'm bad at this. Do you like tacos?"
There are like 3 topics in this, why are you jumping through them?
1-Shoes is a conversation 2-flirting is a conversation 3-tacos is a conversation
You can pick anyone and go with it, to load you opener with so much diffrent things
[–]texaspete3 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The number 1 rule to know about approaching women in the field is making sure they are open to it.
How do you know a woman is open to being approached? Easy, she is out in public socializing usually with a group of friends at a bar or a club or restaurant.
WHat is risky is when approaching women when they are just doing daily chores like filling up the gas tank, working out, getting groceries. She may like you , and like flirting with you but she has a build in time constraint that is too easy not to ignore.
Day Game your approaches may go well but it in the end if she has to go home and feed her dog she is going to leave.
[–]Twix1958 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another great tip is if you just fix yourself and don't game at all you'll instantly can talk anywhere, treat the core, not the symptom
[–]koseabjitt 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
pathetic.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Pathetic is a bit harsh a word. Openers don’t really matter that much, they are just an icebreaker. What you say in the minutes after that are what matter the most.
[–]koseabjitt 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
opener & initial convo doesn't mean jack shit as long as you don't go somewhere aside from the street to approach like a fucking fool & open indirect like an autist .
people need to stop being loser & start befriending rejections instead of doing all these indirect bullshit & investing ridiculous amount of effort in order not to hit the streets.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’ve personally found that opening with something situational and then transitioning into a direct compliment soon after (if she vibed with the situational opener) is what works best for me. It makes the approach feel more organic, and also helps prevent you from getting a reputation as that guy who spans the same pua routine everywhere around the city.
[–]Aesteic 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
helps prevent you from getting a reputation as that guy who spans the same pua routine everywhere around the city.
Is this really a thing? Granted I'm in NYC but I almost never see the same people twice, or even hear of people really.
Yeah, if you daygame similar areas in medium-sized cities, you will inevitably run into the same people again.
[–]grindforthegold 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
seriously lol she’s the only one at the dive bar you blow out the set and then go home and jerk off? sounds like bad advice
I actually love it and might work.
I do agree that the advice to go to stores to approach is bad (tough to disguise that you are sarging, difficult to start situational convos, you run into way too many married or underaged chicks, etc).
But those aren’t the only daygame spots out there. College campuses, coffee shops, bookstores, and parks are my favorite places to cold approach daygame, and I find them way easier than bars.
For someone with shit social skills, bars are overwhelming. Your attractiveness and nonverbals have to be on point and you’re often forced to approach girls in groups. Whereas in daygame, you can just approach a girl who’s alone and have a one on one conversation about topics of interest to you. At least for the breed of introvert I am, that’s way easier than going to a bar and dealing with a bunch of drunken tomfoolery.
Go to a college campus (or a park adjacent to one) for a few hours and do some daygame approaching and tell me it isn’t 10x better than a bar.
[–]poly_nerdy_panda 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I personally hate walking around just to find one chick that is my type.. its a waste of time unless you're in Vegas.. That being said if you're just doing stuff like grabbing dinner and seeing a nice-looking lady go say hi see if she has a ring on or whatever.. The bars is good for hooking up but to find a quality gf it's a dumpster fire.. I really suggest mastermind groups, and events like meetup.com or other actives you are already doing like yoga, or hitt class.. you can always ask around say you hate dating site and bars.. most of my hookups have been friends of friends or co-workers daughter,cousin, etc
[–]Skizznitt 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Quality of people in bars is overall much lower than most other places... no thanks.
[–]puma085 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not all bars are the same. Are you sure you can say that also about the upscale bar or stuff like hotel bars?
Hotel bars with many people on vacation or on business tripps should more "sophisticated "customers compared to an average dive bar. It might be a matter of taste but I also would not consider dive bars or the people there bad in general. They were just more dick fests.
That's not the fault of the bar scene. It is default problem of my Austrian home town.
The general demgrophic statics of my hometown are disadvantageous for a guy in my age (mid 30s).
It is just a gray theory about the hotel bars for now though. Have never been to one yet. During my past trips I was always in a relationship and trevelling with my then gf so I had no intention to stay at places where I can meet new women.
I might try out hotel bars next way though during my first solo 3 week trip to the US.
[–]Skizznitt 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah maybe hotel bars would be alright, or bars in tourist trap places too, for most bars just around town though, it's usually as you said, a sausage fest and the few chicks that are there aren't generally great ones to pick up (maybe for a 1 night, no strings attached meeting, but definitely not for any kind of relationship).
[–]puma085 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes it surely depends on what are you looking for. I am not interested in long term stuff because i am not fully over my last relationship I just approach to practise. To get better at it. So I do not care for long term results.
This the way how I do it in Austria and I will try to approach women with the same mindset during my vacation in the states. Just approach to learn and then see what happens.
It is not for everyone though. If you are looking for more substance I can fully understand your disdain for bars.
Bars are good place to play arround but not the best place if you are looking sor more substance. I think this describes the bar scene pretty well..
But what do I know.
[–]Contango6969 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Day game is brutal and inefficient. You’re kind of smashing your head against a wall. But if you want to meet the kind of girls who don’t go to bars, don’t use dating apps, possibly like virgins and stuff it is kind of the way to do it. There are girls like that.
[–]CocoBabeNYC -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
If you are advanced enough you can do anything. But the reality is guys use daygame to actually avoid going to places where women go to meet men. It's part of the self sabotaging mechanism. Choose the method that has the lowest chances of success so you don't actually have to succeed.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Imho that's pre-2010 thinking. In times of social media and OLD the majority of women don't go anywhere to meet men. Also, many guys are just not made for bars/clubs. They just don't function in that loud/rude/drunken environment.
[–]booniedog1 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah exactly, it seems as though 20 years ago it would've made sense to go to a bar where there'd be a high likelihood of meeting an attractive, possibly even introverted single lady. Today, there's a specific type of woman that will go there that I'm not into, because most girls in my age demographic are either still in college or have other ways to meet guys.
[–]Contango6969 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t think it’s quite so clear. Online dating tends to suck pretty bad for the same guys that don’t do well in bars. At least in bars you have mankinds greatest elixir of social lubrication working in your favor.
There is no all-round solution. Every guy must find his niche. My point was that bars/clubs are not the universal go to.
At least in bars you have mankinds greatest elixir of social lubrication working in your favor.
Does work for some, but not for all in the right way.
[–]CocoBabeNYC 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude you can't be a geek and hide behind techniques and apps. For fuck sake.
I did not want to imply that. Everyone should find his individual niche. My point was that bars/clubs/parties are not the universal go-to anymore, as they once were.
[–]Ryu_Saki 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Also, many guys are just not made for bars/clubs. They just don't function in that loud/rude/drunken environment.
Im one of those I just don't like those areas I also feel no point in drinking really. Social game is quite fun tho.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you are really sure about that, you should not act against your nature and focus all your energy on the methods you feel better about.
[–]Ryu_Saki 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's true, but I don't I just don't like going there. My preferences are else where, however that doesn't mean other places are any easier for me tho.
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Lol wut
[–]Jasonhardon 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Problem with night game and bars are hot women almost always surrounded by friends. Bring a group of PUAs with you. Yes day game is super hard. I've pulled from it but you have to work like a dog. I concur, night game is easier. What you do is you bring your daygame skills to night and speed things up a bit
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