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[–]ModeratorElbynerual 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Just spend the money on a therapist. The end result will be way more worth the money
[–]nordik1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Pussy ain't all that. Deep rooted therapy will be worth WAY more
[–]C0333 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This. With a hooker you get laid but how is that gonna change all the other stuff you are talking about? Or do both.
[–]Calamity__Bane 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Might work as exposure therapy
[–]VisionsOfVisions 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Normally, I wouldn’t advise going to an escort to improve one’s confidence. But you mention how you feel you are psychologically conditioned to “mess up” and paying for an intimate experience will allow you to experience intimacy without the risk of interaction failure.
It may or may not help you, as behavioral conditioning is a long and drawn out process and never a “rip the bandage off” improvement. You have to start taking small steps in many facets of your life. Start looking at retail workers nametags and genuinely saying hi to them. Then having light conversations with strangers around you. All the while, you’ve got to make some friends from hobbies and sports you are interested in.
[–]serialkiller_mne 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Hire a nice escort for entire day, ask for gf experience. Make that day about you enjoying yourself, nothing bad about it
Many guys break the ice by hiring a sex worker. I did it a few times during a dry season as I was completely broken and unmotivated for dating because life pressed me damn hard, and I had many girls before that without paying for sex, I just fell into a dark hole and needed to break out
After that, I have somehow regained my confidence instantly and made tinder, and literally had free sex tommorrow!! The day after I payed for a prostitute 🤣
My friend also did that and got back on his feet after a tough breakup.
Also, be a gentleman if you hire one. They will respect that and will give you extra attention and maybe even free time. They are usually cool, and are human beings same as you, so be polite and relaxed about it. Hope whatever you decide will be helpful
[–]Ploikblah 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How did seeing an escort influence your dating app experience? I'm a 25 year old kissless virgin and I get zero matches.
[–]serialkiller_mne 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It didn't magically give me an attractive aura. I just got out of a dark and frustrated phase after an amazing night and said, fuck it, I'll try Tinder now. I was really carefree and confident and secured a date with a pretty hot chick tommorrow
It just placed me in a chill mindset that I have fallen out off for a while. As for you, decide if you just wanna hire an escort and be done with it. I know many guys that had their first time like that, it's just sex.. it doesn't have to be a romantic movie scenario for everyone. But you know yourself better, so see what would work best for you.
[–]Ploikblah 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I never wanted my first kiss to be paid for but I have zero clue how to attract women so I'll have to bite the bullet
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
so overall, no regrets at all about paying for sex? was it enjoyable despite paying for it?
[–]serialkiller_mne 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, it was so damn great! Sometimes it can be even better than free sex because it is only about YOU and your pleasure. Not to mention these girls are stunning hot and professionals when it comes to pleasuring you
And if she likes you, you may even get an extra round for free ;)
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
awesome and epic to hear man, ya, i find it interesting to ask guys, men, who have both gotten laid from a girlfriend/wife, the natural/normal way, and by paying for it, and the responses seem to vary from guys, men, some say that paying for sex with an escort/sex worker, that it can be equally enjoyable as with a girlfriend/wife, sex for free, or sometimes better, the responses vary
[–]serialkiller_mne 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, trying it both ways makes you see things clearly. However, I'd like to add that hiring a professional escort can sometimes be better than having sex with your wife/gf/hookup, but getting a random prostitute from the streets is usually way more mechanical as they don't put that much effort (but they are cheaper). You also don't have to worry about stds with an escort as you would with a street lady
Escorts are even passionate while doing it, which is close to having sex without paying for it, but still not exactly the same. Some guys want a geniuine passion, attraction and love while having sex, while I don't care that much. That is why responses may vary
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
are you based in the US or outside the US? since it is sadly, unfortuneately illegal in 99 percent of the US
[–]serialkiller_mne 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Outside US. It is illegal here, but I just don't give a shit and neither do cops 😂
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
are you based in Europe? if so, what country?
[–]serialkiller_mne 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Montenegro
[–]Calamity__Bane 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would recommend, in no particular order:
dance classes
an escort
therapy
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[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
interesting since 99 percent of women will never approach a man and never will
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[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
was the sex with the escort still enjoyable despite paying for it? just asking, because paying for sex has always been and probably always will be controversial, there is always mixed feelings, emotions, they vary, among guys, men, who do that
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[–]Ectoplasmic1984 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
are you based in the US or outside the US? just asking because it sadly illegal in 99 percent of the US, i could have sworn i heard it used to be more common for guys, men, to lose the v-card by paying for it, at a brothel, that it was sort of like a rite of passage many generations ago
[–]Contango6969 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just get a fat/ugly/drunk girl. It’s more relevant experience and you can at least get some kind of confidence from it. Getting a hooker might only damage your confidence more imo
[–]BurgerKing420 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm 32. Trust me I will live with the consequences. I can't stand booze breath on wasted girls, I reckon it'll even be a nicer experience and a guaranteed chance of a prettier girl than what I could get currently.
[–]AngeloMacon -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Better booze breath than cum breath lol.
I'm teasing, either option is good to pop the cherry at your point. I'd also concentrate more on making friends than a girlfriend at this point. Learning some game without the ability to follow it up with a conversation is kind of pointless. Plus, it'd build some confidence along with social skills.
[–]poly_nerdy_panda -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you can always do a gang bang too lol might be fat ugly chick but sure its your $$ man I rather get a sugar baby if i had the coin and was in your shoes..
Honestly, tho women don't care if you last 2 seconds on them as long as you can lick their clit good.. learn from watching videos on you porn
[–]GordonGecko69 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, uh, no woman wants to f@&k a 32 year old dude to identifies himself as a wizard. So start there. And no, an escort won’t do anything to help you. It’s transactional and that doesn’t seem like what you need.
[–]sussykeke 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting a hooker is a good start I think. There's countries where prostitution is legal, namely Netherlands and Germany if you don't want risking getting a charge.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think this is best. Who cares how you lose your virginity you just need to do it.
That will atleast make the thought of actually doing the deed of sex less nerve wracking for you
[–]sincere_blasphemy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think seeing a therapist, specifically a sex therapist would be the best for you. I have suffered with some severe sex-related emotional and physical issues, some of which had to be treated by a physical therapist. Having more sex didn't help, because it was negative every time. I needed to figure out what was the matter with me before I could enjoy sex. Its still a work in progress, but I've come a long way.
Example: parents raised me to believe sex was immoral, unsafe, and wrong. So even with my long-term partner, I would get anxiety attacks or cry. Another example (I'm a woman) intense physical pain from sex. Seeing a doctor and then a physical therapist to work on that helped more than all those efforts to "just relax" or "go slow" or whatever.
My point is that sometimes you have a real physical or neurological problem, and that's something that can get treated and can get a lot better.
Also, I'm not trying to imply you're crazy or you have something seriously wrong with your life. I'm studying to become a psychotherapist myself, and I think many people could benefit from some counseling now and again.
Good luck!
[–]BlameitonBigDave 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Contact a therapist and explore the trauma and phobia you're experiencing. Developing a trusting relationship with a therapist regarding your difficulties connecting to people will do so much more for your overall quality of life, than spending the same amount of money on an escort.
Also, you're 32. You feel like time is running out for you, but in the grand scheme of life, you are still incredibly young and as you make positive changes, so much can change in your life you'll barely recognise it in a few years.
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well men always have the burden of building the attraction
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