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[–]FaithInStrangers94 131 points132 points133 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Got to love the irony of how frequently women behave like this whilst insisting that guys most know what they want and play no games
[–]Githzerai1984 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
DrAmA FrEe
[–]jaafarbht 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what people tend to forget is women are emotional creatures, if you're judging them because of their words... you're focusing on the wrong area
[–]GotThaAcid5tab 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
well she aint gonna be relationship material..
[–]Sticky__Fingaz 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s definitely not an option here.
[–]SnooPets1514 191 points192 points193 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Just assume she’s dtf. You’ve got enough IOI’s. Get a bit more aggressive with it and if she tries to friendzone when you actually make a move, then at least you tried. Nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about
[–]Reasonable-Treacle96 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Build a yes ladder before you make the move get her worked up to. If she's rejects you freeze her out for playing games with you.
[–]OWSucks 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
tf is a yes laddr?
[–]GKoala 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A PT. Essentially you get to say yes enough times ro random things. Each consecutive yes makes her more likely to say yes to anything else.
[–]Wjourney 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol this is great
[–]OWSucks 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
PT? Sorry it's not in the glossary.
What sorts of questions would you ask to do this?
[–]GKoala 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Physchological Trick.
Are you having fun? Are you glad you came? Do you want another drink? Any question really where the expected answer is yes. Gotta find your own through experience.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Translation?
[–]SnooPets1514 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dtf - down to fuck
IOI - indicator of interest
Aggressive - more proactive behaviour than reactive behaviour
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks mate
[–]Amalasian 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is one look. another is she likes you is trying to push you to make a move with this guy who she says wont work out out of no where. she is trying to get you to be with her at her place. i dont know how much more you want with out her saying directly to you and thats just not the game here. so i dont think your a fall back i think your the target. belive in your self more
[–]Minute-Lie-2287 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah the false pretense here is just a rejection shield. This is how girls shoot their shot when they absolutely have to. It's under some false pretense so just in case you're not into it it they aren't really rejected.
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Single momma prob 👆
Ps: wanna smash or decline her?
[–]Sticky__Fingaz 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol you are correct. Genius.
[–]SnooPets1514 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
100% dtf then
[–]0KED0KE 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Case closed.
[–]mightymite88 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
if you dont want to be friends then dont pretend. be honest.
[–]tropicsGold 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don’t take things so literally. She is twerking for him for gods sake, she does not literally want to be friends. This is an indirect way of seeing if he wants to fuck her. This was she is protected if he is not interested. Go by her actions, not her words.
[–]mightymite88 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Doesnt matter. He should still be honest. Escalate or get lost, unless you really are open to being friends. Dont encourage her games, dont play games, be direct.
[–]tropicsGold -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminine communication style is indirect. This is not the same as dishonest, and you should not expect a woman to use a male direct communication approach.
There is a very good reason women have evolved to use indirect methods. This is an approach designed for self protection in a world where women are much smaller and weaker than the men who surround them. A direct communication that pisses off one of the men around her could end with her being killed. This is the evolutionary reason for the female indirect form of communication.
[–]jackzander 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Girl offers you food and friendship and you start 9D Chessing it wtf?
Give her my number, I'll bring a side.
[–]zertsetzung 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Do I cut all contact or play this “friend” role?"
What if she was offering up the pussy to you on a platter? Would you really take that. She sounds like a fucking drama queen with concealed daddy issues.
Erratic behaviour in a girl should be considered a read flag no matter how low key it is.
You dont just fuck and then leave these types. There's going to be drama. Plus with the whole twerking thing, she's probably ghetto so you know she enjoys men beating the shit out of each other over her, and other drama so that she can get attention.
[–]carloshps16 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But if she works with you it is a big no. There is a reason for the saying : you do not crap where you eat.
[–]j_tothemoon 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Escalate, she probably wants to be with you.
[–]Nalayak_Launda 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's giving you ioi flirt with her and escalate when she invites you home. If she wants you as a friend she'll decline but at least give it a try
[–]paddywacknack 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God damn some guys are thick.
[–]Amkg2020 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean I don't see why you would want her 🤷🏾♀️ especially if she's a boyfriend, but I mean if you start banging her fair enough I dint know what to say about the other guy but I suspect its just what happens
[–]badabing654 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“So I’m at work” yeah good luck with this. Bro breaking rule 1
[–]WagerGoat 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The friend zone doesn’t exist, it only exist if you let it. Tell her what you want, and if she still trying to pull the friend card just cut her off. Me personally would make sure it a fwb situation if anything
[–]Mo3 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's giving a lot of IOIs, she wants you, I would not want one like that though.
[–]poly_nerdy_panda 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Guys, please rememebr women rarely know what they want when they are 18-28 ish years old. I've slept with plenty of women who said they just want to be friends or we hooked up years later. My advice is to have a lot of options yourself and don't treat her as "bro" tell her she looks sexy in person!!! and show intent (grab her by the waist, poke her, ect) even if your with a girlfriend or hookup buddy.
She is showing you videos for validation, tell her let's go dancing that the video looks staged or I beat you won't dance like that with me at the club or whatever you think will get her out of the validation BS
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[–]hootingstar -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Leave her immediately. Think about other guy, what if it were you? No need to trade your self respect man
[–]carloshps16 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always escalate things. When you are alone with her, make sure your interactions become physical. Start from hugs here and there and see if she gets comfortable with it. If yes, then play with her hair, hands and etc. Then kiss her and you know the rest...
Make sure you are always advancing towards the end goal ( sex)
[–]notLOL 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's some good luck. Keep it going. Read her Actions not her words
[–]ChrisVicar 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Run.
[–]Perfect_War5446 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just say what you got to say to get laid, then cut contact
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would be out , never be the back up.
[–]wont_give_no_kreddit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn bro, just go get some free food lol. Worst case scenario, you get free dinner!
[–]dave_aj 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or something worse
[–]GUCCIBUKKAKE 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Smash and dash
[–]Boos_TZ_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Show intent. Strong eye contact and light touches on her hand, lower back, etc. See if she reciprocates. Keep convo sexual, but bait her to lean into it more.
You gotta take the lead. If you don’t, you’ll def be her “gay best friend”. Just my two cents.
[–]Snakehead004 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why don't any of you dudes want actual friends?? I don't see why this is a loss or why you'd cutoff.. Please elaborate..
[–]gannex 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Twerking tik toks? Wal Mart? I don't think I want to live in this century anymore. I just want a gf I can take to the symphony.
[–]Thepurge101 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shes interested in You. Shes letting uk shes still single, shes trying to get you to take the bait. If you meet up for dinner i guarantee you shes gonna send you some clear cut signs.
[–]Chrisanova_NY 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You need to give more back-story.
I would have grabbed the free dinner, and then asked when there would be more delicious food. You know, we can use for resources just like women do. Float the ambiguity.
[–]Mtbr_29 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t take any of this nonsense my man, she sounds like a drama queen. Forget it and move on.
[–]artofmajic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man I matched with a coworker on tinder who I thought was open for a relationship. I asked her out and she was down but plans never aligned. She ended up telling me she was moving not to far from where she was at and needed help. She said it’s gonna be a two day thing cause she’s off and I’m thinking oh she needs a man to help her and it’s possible that I’m spending a night. Im thinking to myself I’m putting it down tonight. When I finally meet up with her outside the house I brought some flowers as a house warming gift for her but had second thoughts because of nervousness and said I’ll wait it out and left them in the car. She tells me we are bout to smoke and we’ll then get ready. I’m thinking ok me and her bout to smoke so I’m bout to make a move. I walk in the house and theres three other niggas. Her baby daddy and I’m assuming two other friend zoned guys who thought they was coming for something else there to help her move. She texted me the next day saying thank u for helping her move which I never opened the message and I proceeded to block her on every social media I had of her. That was the last I saw of her
Nut and leave
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