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[–]surfershane25 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You do realize what the second half of the word girlFRIEND is right? I mean good luck having a relationship without being at least somewhat friendly. I’ve been in 13 years of 4 serious relationships in 31 years on this earth, trust me it’s not going to work if you’re not at all friends.
[–]breenud39 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Eait 4 serious relationships for 13 years together?
[–]surfershane25 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A 1 year, a 2 year, a nearly 5 year, a just over 5 year. 13 years of 4 serious relationships. The one year while not long was still serious until she had to move to a place much colder than where I would ever live but I wasn’t going to hold someone back from doing what they wanted, if we had the same city in mind I could’ve seen it lasting much longer.
[–]MagnusRoundstone 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago* (25 children) | Copy Link
I’m calling bullshit on the “I don’t have time” excuse. But, if we go with your premise that you don’t “have time” to make friends or to do fun things, you don’t have time to date. Wait until you have time to date and then become attractive. Problem solved.
On the other hand, if you want to be real, recognize there are 168 hours in the week. Spend three of them volunteering. That is attractive to women. Spend four of those hours doing something interesting. That is attractive to women. Spend three of them developing a social circle. That’s only 10 out of your 168 hours a week and will make you more attractive. Do what you want with the other 158 hours.
/tough love
[–]Da_SnowLeopard 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Brotha I'm doing 16 hour shifts on the weekend, taking 6 engineering courses a semester, and then working out like 2 hours a day. I don't have time to date you're right, I just want to fuck, I'm willing to compromise studies a bit if I could just fuck.
[–]MagnusRoundstone 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Hookers might be your best option. Or figure out a way to get more efficient at studying. The truth is, women find lifestyle attractive. If you don’t have time for one, women won’t have time for you.
[–]mrpodo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If he keeps studying he will become a successful person and won't have a problem getting women
[–]vardarac 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That isn't true
[–]mrpodo -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's okay to disagree but I'd rather have a successful career than to have all the confidence in the world
[–]vardarac 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I guess I've just been seeing the advice to "Just work on yourself and they'll come" my whole life, but time and again I know I've not pulled because my game fucking sucks and not because I only make five figures. An extra zero or two would not change my social skills, neither would curing disadvantaged animal poverty AIDS.
But different strokes.
[–]-Twyptophan- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You definitely don't need to work out 2 hours a day to get a good physique. If you want to work out less and get a good physique, check out Greg O'Gallagher. I started following his stuff 4 years ago and it's been life-changing
[–]forseti_ 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Lol at volunteering
I got laid back then telling girls I flip burgers at McDonalds. It was a lie - I studied computer science.
Girls don't give a shit about your resume/cv. Her pussy is connected to a more primitive part of the brain.
To give OP an answer. You have to invest time in this if you want to become good. And don't invest it bye selling girls the idea of a date with you online. This won't develop your social skills and you will be helpless in front of this girl.
Tinder and Co is nice if you don't care that the girl is a total mess. You will have to give them the impression of a perfect product. It will mess you up too. You are a human not some item in a store a girl can shop for.
So go out and get rejected. Girls will sometimes give you clues sometimes you will have to throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. Most advice out there is total bullshit - that's why you have to test it yourself to find out what works and what doesn't.
The best advice I can give you is to fall in love with game and keep in your minde woman are the most wonderful things in your life.
Maybe start reading Mark Mansons Models but don't believe this guy a word before you haven't fild tested it yourself.
This is the way to get sex with tons of different woman.
If you just want to find the one partner to make children there are of course different ways. You can be successful, rich, popular... Everything that increases your survival chances (think hkw hard life was a few thousands if not hundred thousand years ago). The downside here is that you are likely to start a sad sexless marriage once the honeymoon phase is over. You will completly lack the experience to stay on top of your shit in the relationship. A few weeks ago I had sex with a girl that brought to flatsin the capital of her country from the money that she got when she divorced her husband.
Did she ask me if I volunteer somewhere before she rode my dick - haha of course not! Did I have to tell her I have a good job no of corse not.
Girls decide by your behavior/body language. Basicly how you cary yourself - how you handle her shit - if you afe reactive like a small fish in the ocean or stoic like a big one. It's all about survival, big fish eat more and live longer.
So put some time appart to go out and party with likeminded guys. You will need to develop a skillset.
Hope I could help a bit.
[–]MagnusRoundstone 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
My experience has been different. Before I got with my (now) wife, I dated a LOT. I found that girls connected most with the primitive part of their brain. That evolutionary side that seeks out men that are leaders and have resources. The non-primitive part also wants an interesting man. That is where volunteering comes in. Women LOVED hearing about my volunteer work as a Court Appointed Special Advocate. Even more so when I tell them I started that during my first year of law school.
I agree that one has to test and find out what is congruent and works for you. I cracked the code to success with women for ME. But that doesn’t mean anyone else can just replicate that.
[–]Zibski 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My guess is that the reason why they were finding you attractive was that you were going to become a lawyer one day, not that you gave your time away as volunteer.
[–]MagnusRoundstone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope. I dropped out of law school. Women found it entertaining that I was only going for fun.
[–]whoknew513 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound like a cuck
[–]MagnusRoundstone 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure how cuck comes in here but okay lol.
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[–]MagnusRoundstone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nah. I told each that I dropped out of law school. I already had a lucrative career and was only going to law school for personal enrichment.
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[–]MagnusRoundstone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha! I didn’t mean to imply volunteer work was the only thing I had going for me lol. I had two MAJOR things working against me when it comes to attraction. I was obese and I have a facial deformity. So, it took a bunch of positive factors to outweigh those (successful in business, phd, stand-up comedian, volunteer with kids, interesting hobbies, etc). Altruism happens to be a personality trait that ranks very high for attraction.
The reason I suggest volunteer work is because lots of guys make excuses for themselves. For many, money is one of them. Volunteer work is low on time commitment and is free. There is no real excuse not to do it.
[–]youcheekydelinquent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
and you don't need spelling either lol
[–]forseti_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was tired when writing that lol
[–]ThePherdBeve 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How do you develop a social circle?
And how will a woman know you spent 7 hours on attractive shit? If you just tell her, will it be that attractive?
Also get that "tough love" bullshit out of here, at the end of the day you don't give a shit who succeeds in here
[–]MagnusRoundstone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Developing a social circle is a process of figuring out what you want that social circle to look like. The majority of my acquaintances and friends came from business, activities/hobbies, and volunteer work. Although, it can be very diverse. Two of the closest friendships I’ve made in my adult life include a lawyer I randomly struck up a conversation with at the county courthouse lobby and the other is a tattoo artist that did a few of my tattoos. In both those cases, we discovered there were common interests and I made an effort to be useful to them. Friendships formed and are strong years later.
When you do “attractive shit”, it comes out naturally on your dates through conversation. One date asked me about any hidden talents. I let with the fact that I can make balloon animals. That conversation took the path of me explaining that I learned how to make balloon animals when I was a Wish Granter with the Make-A-Wish foundation. You don’t outright tell people about your attractive qualities, you let it come out naturally in conversation.
At the end of the day, I’m not invested in anyone’s success or failure. That doesn’t mean I don’t care. I share my knowledge and experience because I enjoy seeing people experience success.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You don't outright tell people about your attractive qualities
Except that's what you did, because she asked you about yourself, and the difference is negligible.
Would you like me to tell you all about my successes and failures?
[–]MagnusRoundstone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I should have phrased that better. Let me try again… you don’t outright tell people about your attractive qualities without them asking for more information. It’s perfectly okay to talk about yourself. Answering questions is all a part of conversation. Just be mindful of humility. Being humble in itself is attractive. When asked about my philanthropic work, I would often say something along the lines of “I work with a 501(c)3 on the administration side”. Never “I’m the chairman of a non-profit”.
Psychology in this area is interesting. A guy telling a girl that he drives a Ferrari can be a huge turn off to some. Never mentioning the car, deciding to drive somewhere together, and opening the passenger side door of a Ferrari for a girl can be very attractive.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The psychology there is interesting partly because to some people it doesn't come naturally at all.
Thank you, I will try to do this more, although I was sort of operating this way and it didn't work
[–]DizzyxSin 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men think they have to become this alpha god like figure to be attractive to women. In reality you are good as you are even with all your faults. Women just don't want someone so heavy, uptight and is generally unconfortable in his own shell.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are what we call an excuser. Someone who always has an excuse as to why he is not meeting and sleeping with girls.
[–]TheGnosionaut 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ugh.... scrolled through the comments. OP has no time to invest into himself but has the time to write essays on reddit.
[–]Blackmetalpenguin90 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the problem with generic BS advice. One time it's hit the gym bro, make money bro, be ambitious bro, then you do all that and next time is "well you can't be a papercut perfect guy bro, you have to live an adventurous life bro, you have to do crazy shit to tell stories about bro". People internalise all this bullshit and they end up in a place where they feel like they have to do every single fucking thing at the same time and it's still not enough.
Truth is the only time you'll start to become successful is when you truly think that you're all right, and if someone rejects you then she simply wasn't right for you. You will never be able to tick all the boxes. You'll only feel good when you feel like the boxes you DO tick are enough.
Easier said than done though.
[–]Jacob_961 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly I wouldn't date you if I was a girl. I don't care what you have. The first level is how you make the girl feel around you. You want validation so bad that you are repulsing women even before they get a chance to get to know you. Cut out tinder first of all, it is useless and it will get you shitty women. If you talk to women because you want to talk to them, have fun with them, and you enjoy their presence and you enjoy pushing their buttons, talking to women will stop being the chore you are sitting it out to be. I usually sleep with women on the first date, but now I'm dating a more conservative chick who just happens to be a virgin and a different approach is required. If you set, I want to talk to you and not text and you have the spread your legs on date whatever, no girl will suck your dick. For what? So that your ego is validated? Go stroke yourself basically. Women want to love you but you have to give them the chance to do so. Give some compliments, back off a bit, allow them to invest in you, reward their effort with affection and compliments and she will fall in love. It is not rocket science.
[–]PmMeYourAmatuerNudes 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Strength.
Doesn't matter if it's body, mind, or character. Find YOUR strength and pursue it. Girls will put themselves in your way to distract you when you aren't watching for them. One of them will encourage your pursuit of strength. That's the one you approach. That's the one who will support you and isn't looking for a supporter. That's the one to spend your time with.
[–]maxkapital -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make money. Be tall. Have big dick. That’s all you need to know. Easy.
[+]According-Mobile-993 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
90% is in your face, 5% in your body and 5% in who you are. There ya go. :)
[–]TheGnosionaut 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's 100% her mood.
[–]TheGnosionaut 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, because Niel Strauss was such a looker....
You have attraction circuitry fundamentally misunderstood. Men and women are nothing alike. Women are more attracted to confidence and status than to looks. No amount of physical beauty will be a match for raw masculine energy.
[–]TheGnosionaut 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok.
[–]Potz666 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah, 90% is body, girls will sleep with tall ugly mofos who are lean and have some muscle
[–]zexwyomom 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This could be a good opinion, but Men are in better position than women in terms of importance of looks, don’t let some sayings distort your thinking, men in general are more inclined to care a lot about looks compared to women.
[–]gugogi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you use the « grind » as an excuse to not date or meet girls. I pretty much am in the same situation as you (5 class, 15hours shift and working out way too much) and I realised that the excuse « I don’t have time » doesn’t really apply.
If you really want to date, you’ll have to invest some bit of effort (maybe next semester take less shifts at the job or try another split for your workout that require less time at the gym)
Or again, you can use the mentality of « grinding in your 20s » and wait to be more stable to attract women if that suits you
[–]youcheekydelinquent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'd focus on making actual friends and branching out from there. "Girlfriends" will come organically with uber-success but most of us don't become Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk. You will probably need some game as well. If you want to be seductive on the other hand you do have to learn how to have a good time just being yourself by yourself, More people will be attracted to you when you have the right mindset. Right now it doesn't sound like that. It sounds like you already gave up. People don't want fun people they enjoy being around.
[–]gannex 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man I'm in grad school and this describes me too well. I think you just have to make some sacrifices at some point and force yourself to take the blinders off from time to time, even if you're highly motivated.
I don't want to waste time or brain power building a "Friendship" first.I'm kind of like a, I want to meet you, I don't want to talk to youover text for 1 week, lets do x,y,z at this time agree, give me acounter suggestion, or lets stop talking.
This is exactly how I feel about it all the time. I don't have time for some bullshit. I could be working out, I could be studying, I could be doing something useful. I can focus on what's right there in front of me--if I go out to dinner with someone, I focus on them and listen to them--but I just don't give a fuck about texting some girl I don't know well for 2 weeks. If you want someone to text you ingratiating messages all day, just get a fucking amazon Alexa bot or something.
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