Fatties need not apply?

heckz · 2011-05-20T04:07:36+00:00

hey, props on 40 lbs, that's great!

D3l7a3ch0 · 2011-05-20T04:45:10+00:00

Suit up. Look rich. Be well-groomed. > Being skinny.

2011-05-20T04:15:17+00:00

You've dropped 40lbs, that's significant progress, only 15lbs away from being halfway to your goal, you shouldn't be feeling stuck or frustrated.

Is there any point hitting on HB7+ girls? Well, what's the worst that could happen? "No." If you're not used to it, approaching an HB7+ girl can be intimidating. The reason it's intimidating is because you know you might get shot down, and you're scared of that. Well, if you're fat now, then there's probably not gonna be any suspense. You're probably gonna get shot down. So what better chance at practicing your approach and shaking off a rejection?? Then when you're fit and ready, you'll be able to approach HB7+ with completely confidence.

razqel · 2011-05-20T04:40:36+00:00

My seduction mentor/guru.. the guy that taught me to be the man I am today, he was always severely overweight. It was his biggest struggle his entire life, something that to this day he has not overcome. But that didn't stop him from becoming phenomenal at seduction and having a harem of 5 women at one point. Neither did it stop him from having threesomes as well as regular LTRs.

I applaud you for trying to be more fit. If you want to get this part of you handled first that's up to you. But being overweight is not the intense handicap you think it is. By no means should you let it stop you from improving your game altogether. Yes, you will need to try harder and your game will have to be tighter to attract girls. I hope it pushes you to become a better seducer.

In the meantime, take whatever success you can get to further your skills and experience with women.

g-smiles · 2011-05-20T03:51:27+00:00

There are all kinds out there, my friend. Even an array of hb9s and 10s that will be really into you. Keep losing the weight until you're happy and keep f-closing the best you can achieve. A hb3 this week, a hb4 next, and a hb10 when you're ready to allow that for yourself. It's never a waste of time as long as you do something.

2011-05-20T05:45:53+00:00

Similar. I'm 6'2 Started at 300 down to 265 now but even when I was at my heaviest (318 some years back) - I've only ever dated HB7+ and number close girls pretty much every weekend. Fat is only an obstacle if you let it be man.

apocalyptic · 2011-05-20T11:06:55+00:00

For all the nay-sayers who think that looks matter, go do a search for Sean Stephenson. If a deformed midget in a wheelchair (all respect to him, but that is what he is) can date decently hot women, we able bodied people have no excuses except the ones we make up for ourselves.

I'm not saying that you should not do anything about your weight if it bothers you; instead I'm saying that your self-esteem is what truly matters. If you are having a fulfilling life and enjoying your lifestyle and body, it will affect the rest of your life. And yes, this includes the woman or women you choose.

MaysonNSS · 2011-05-20T12:41:01+00:00

First of all do you want to lose weight? Not for girls but do YOU want to?

Second.. I am overweight. I am also a dating coach who has helped thousands of students, flown across the world and dated some of the most amazing girls I have ever met. Looks matter, but they matter less than you think. You can have unreal success being 220 but it starts with believing in you...

Pires007 · 2011-05-20T15:30:22+00:00

NO, NO, NO!!!

When you dropped 40 pounds, did you say, "it's not worth it, I will drop the other 70 pounds once I can get HB7-9?" Of course not, because they're not directly related.

If you did, what would happen, you'd just gain that weight.

Same thing with dating, you can only get the 4-5s now, do you magically think you'll get 7-9 when you drop the weight.

There's a lot of out of shape guys who can score. Even TofuTofu's admitted he's out of shape. There's a lot of rich, in shape guys who can't score.

You can do this, it's not your weight which is stopping you from getting chicks, it's your perception about your weight which is your biggest obstacle. Change your mindset, focus on other areas of your game and make it work.

kLinus · 2011-05-20T05:59:09+00:00

It's all in your head.

Nexism · 2011-05-20T06:23:25+00:00

Runner up to “The Pickup Artist" led by Mystery was an overweight dude.

productionx · 2011-05-20T13:21:55+00:00

Stop worrying! Man up/hit the gym! disregard women, acquire self confidence!

T3hJ3hu · 2011-05-20T15:04:10+00:00

Take care of yourself and look attractive in every other way possible, while continuing to lose weight. Stop thinking of yourself as ugly and failure-bound; that's going to rather publicly manifest as insecurity and weakness, which will hurt your chances more than your weight.

Just give it a shot. You never know when you might click with someone, or when you might find just right the chick at just the right time. Have fun with it and remember to retain outcome independence. There's no harm in trying.

Besides: what's wrong with a 5 or a 6, especially if you're only a 5 yourself? Oftentimes they're better than their 8 or 9 counterparts, if only because they've been forced to actually develop technique and skill to keep their sex lives afloat. This also tends to make them more giving, which when combined with their skill, can work out fantastically. It's this same concept that makes an "ugly duckling" the ultimate find.

MrGordonGekko · 2011-05-20T05:56:18+00:00

Honestly, a huge part of this game is just learning how to communicate well. Just get out there and meet people. People usually like to talk about themselves, so allow them that room to share.

Just go out and get knowledge on becoming a social-conditioned converser.

divinebaboon · 2011-05-20T07:33:56+00:00

Download P90X and try it out. It worked for me.

emooz · 2011-05-20T09:35:36+00:00

I was fat, forget about it. Men doesn't have to be "pretty". I was overweight, have crooked teeth and I always have red face ;p still girls have no problem with me hitting on them or putting things in them. Just have some hygiene and be cool.

samstr · 2011-05-20T11:30:55+00:00

so far I've dropped 40lbs

That's brilliant! Well done.

I'm no expert but if you've proved that you can lose weight already then you clearly have the ambition and dedication to keep going. No doubt you can hit your goal - you've already made significant progress.

Just don't let the search for a relationship dampen your spirits. You're only 23.

Just focus on achieving your goals and see where it takes you.

sockthepuppetry · 2011-05-20T12:13:29+00:00

Dude, for fat guys that have their inner game together, there's a whole fun-loving role in our culture. Also, ever heard of this guy?

Stop giving yourself irrelevant excuses and just try. If losing weight makes you feel good, go for it, but it's only relevant for that much.

Mocnoj · 2011-05-20T21:00:00+00:00

Plain and simple: fat people are not unattractive.

It's the almost disgusting attitude of self-loathing that many of them can develop that acts as a repellent to women.

I know many ladies men that are overweight. Looks are not that important, but you should know that by now.

But I'm my own worst enemy, just as you are obviously yours. And the same likely goes for most people on this forum.

You can't get others to love you before you first learn to love yourself. Sorry for being so cliche.

EDIT

Just to be unequivocally clear, the most attractive attitude is one of not caring what others think of you.

It's funny how the less you care about what people think of you, the more people tend to like you. Lol

PapaGeese · 2011-05-20T22:43:40+00:00

Hey now.

I may not be pulling 9s or 10s but I don't do too bad and I am much heavier than you. Could I do better if I were more fit? Yes. But I'm not going to let that stop me in the meantime.

Really it's all in your mind and your attitude.

crazy0 · 2011-05-21T02:26:11+00:00

If I were fat, id go for fat girls...right?

ladywonderlux · 2011-05-20T03:35:07+00:00

Sorry but why should a "HB" 8 bother with a guy that is a 3?

Unless you are ridiculously rich and she is a golddigger (where she dates you for money and you date her for looks) no one is going to be interested.

Lose some weight first. Fact is women like to see a good looking man and date a good looking man and be sexually attracted to - hot men! It seems really ridiculous for you to think you should be sleeping with extremely attractive women when you said yourself you are overweight and not attractive.

Lose some weight first, be a healthy attractive man and then try and approach women.

2011-05-20T03:52:35+00:00

I am over weight but refuse to date over weight girls? Dress and look the part for the job of dating HB9s.

emit_ · 2011-05-20T05:02:52+00:00

Losing weight would not be a bad idea. Don't think of it as an excuse to pickup women, but as a lifestyle and health. This should improve you to living healthier which is beneficial.

Telekinesis · 2011-05-20T06:46:33+00:00

Work on your humor, it can do wonders, really.

2011-05-20T08:44:52+00:00

If you think it's such a waste of time, then it probably is for you. Seduction is something you have to really try at and be confident with in order for it to work.

Whisper · 2011-05-20T19:04:18+00:00

NO.

Value is not a fixed quality. Value is whatever people perceive value to be.

Sometimes value is being fit and trim and attractive. Sometimes it's being super confident and witty and filling a room with your personality. Sometimes it's being successful, well-dressed, powerful, and sophisticated.

It's whatever value you can find to demonstrate.

Your problem is less that you are fat, than that you are kicking your own ass about it. You have to find other value, and demonstrate it.

And keep losing that lard for the sake of your heart and lifespan.

2011-05-20T19:57:44+00:00

Remember what courage wolf says: "A year from now, you'll know why you started today."

Answer this hypothetical question: If you wanted to be good at playing guitar when you are thin, would you start practicing now, or wait until you were thin to start playing?

Seduction is a skill that takes time to learn. Start practicing now, and when you finally do become thin, you will really kick ass at it.

11111111111111000 · 2011-05-21T05:10:10+00:00

Dude I'm a 23 year old virgin dude 6 ft 185 pounds who can't fucking talk to girls. I get fucking nervous every-time. Im the very definition of pussy. At least u can attract hb-4,5. I dress up rich and often get called handsome, intelligent by girls and yet cant even t-close them(touch). My voice gets shaky as fuck. Only girls I can talk normally are the ugly ones. Sometimes I even get nervous around them too. Just remember that there are people more fucked up position than you are.

HeloisePommefume · 2011-05-20T06:20:14+00:00

What's wrong with the HB6 you say you might get on a good day? How would you rate yourself? I definitely wouldn't rate someone at 220lbs at more than a 6 if there were a scale for guys. If you want better than a 6, make yourself better.

D3l7a3ch0 · 2011-05-20T10:35:20+00:00

stop eating so much. i see people talking about 1800 calorie budgets, but that's a normal f'in diet. I stay under 400 calories some days, even just an EGG without the yolk. how seriously do you want it.

yes it's disgusting, no it's not healthy, but bitches love that shit. also: i hate myself for liking food so much. i encourage you to do the same

TL;DR: get skinny. stop eating, and go about your normal day. get a scale.

Title	Fatties need not apply?
Author	godlesspaladin
Upvotes	24
Comments	75
Date	May 20, 2011 3:19 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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