I’m done

revralph89 · 2020-10-20T17:54:59+00:00

I'm going to be 100% with you man, if you are here for a pity party brace yourself. If you purely think your height is the ultimate make or break for you, you need to pull your head out, and get a reality check (I mean this in the best way). Life doesn't give a flying fck about your looks, genetics, or status. It can flat out be a cold and brutal world. With that being said, your determination for success or failure is 100% in your head period. I'm 5'5", 31, have a slightly thinning hairline, and a somewhat husky build if I'm not managing my weight. I am by no means an advanced person, but I can say beyond any question that confidence is the end all be all determinant. Everyone in the world wishes they could tweak themselves in someway, but sincerely go fck that belief out of existence, it won't serve you. It's not that you aren't attractive or worthy enough, it's purely that you don't see yourself as attractive or worthy enough. Don't give up hope. You have many more years of life ahead of you, with plenty of time to grow and learn. Find a social group who you can build yourself up around. Being attractive is a mentality first, and a physical characteristic second. You're always worth the investment. Get better, not bitter.

anyJose · 2020-10-20T21:17:39+00:00

Dude I’m 6 feet tall and I’m still getting rejected by girls bro.

Andrew54321 · 2020-10-20T21:41:17+00:00

LMFAO.

Are you short on iq too?

You go on an app where the only information to work with is physical appearance. Then you put on MODELS. I guess you compare your cooking to michelin starred meals too eh buddy.

MrSerious96x · 2020-10-20T18:03:49+00:00

Don't give up.. keep looking, someone will like you eventually. Be yourself and thats it, I'm alone at the moment but I know one or two girls who I can tell have a thing for me, but since I don't feel the same I might as well not waste their time nor mine

Nivajoe · 2020-10-20T22:22:29+00:00

This sub doesn't really care for pity parties.

Ralphunkadelic · 2020-10-20T20:13:21+00:00

Bruh try dating Latina women. They always go for short dudes! Also, check out the study of physiognomy. You’re short, you can’t change that, but there’s a lot of other things you can do to look more attractive.

Seems like when you did the experiment you did 2 accounts who really stood out. Even if they didn’t seem like “dating material” they stood out because they had a lot of personality. Just take things about yourself and exaggerate and conflate them. Kind of like peacocking yourself. You usually have to be “out there” for people to notice you, especially with online dating.

unclesamny · 2020-10-20T19:19:34+00:00

You’re the only one that can save yourself bro. I’m sure most of the other guys here (myself included) weren’t born with the natural extrovert stud gene. Those guys aren’t on this forum. However, for the rest of us that actually took matters into our own hands and put in the real work, we can safely say that things do get better with time and effort. This area of life is tough trust me and it goes deeper on an inner level due to the fact that it forces you to face your flaws and defects. No one is perfect I promise you. Going forward, you can either be a victim and give up or be a hero and own that shit.

Trust me I’ve seen puas that have literally been talking to a girls tits, that’s how short they are. They just don’t let that shit phase them. You should do the same. This is all a mental head game. You are enough. Go out and sort it out for yourself with real experience. You’ll see what I’m talking about.

BillPDating · 2020-10-21T04:43:34+00:00

One of the ugliest, shortest guys I ever knew was also one of my best, most fun wingmen. Dude pulled like crazy with shorter girls, but also had a great personality, decent style, was jacked, and good career (wealth).

So no, your height/looks aren't what's holding you back. You are.

tropicislandexplorer · 2020-10-20T19:14:19+00:00

Wow, I love how elaborate your experiments were!

I did the same type of thing on POF a few years back. There was this girl I was chatting with, she was really wishy washy with me, really busy anytime I asked her on a date.

I make a burner account, with an attractive looking dude, try talking to her and all of the sudden SHE'S PURSUING ME! Ends up asking what I like to do, and when I might want to go out.

It made me angry and hurt in the moment, but it also made me not feel like such a loser. It's all superficial. There was nothing wrong with my personality, 95% of it is just based on looks.

skld2assassin · 2020-10-20T22:25:45+00:00

Must suck man get buff af so you could be short and ugly but buff af that could work if not then consider buying a puppy to care for.

XXXinner · 2020-10-20T23:31:59+00:00

After reading your post and all the comments, my dude, I got to tell you that you are just overthinking everything and just looking at the negative side of things. I have a friend and she's dating someone that's a lot shorter than her, and I talked to the guy and all he said was that he was himself around her. I talked to my friend as well and she said that she liked his personality above everything else. This was all before COVID, and they met each other in person, but even then, personality will always overcome all traits. I understand what you are saying and going through because I went through the same thing as you did. I'm Asian, and most women aren't too keen about dating Asian men and I've gotten rejected many many times. What I learned from this, that when someone doesn't like you for who you are then they aren't meant for you. Why would you want to be with someone who doesn't give a damn about what you have and willing to put in the effort to make it work?

I know it's very deteriorating when we get rejected or aren't given a chance, but the reason why we react like this is because our ego got hurt. I know, "Ego? What ego are you talking about? I don't have ego, because I already know that I'm not that good looking of a person." As I said before, I went through and thought the same thing as you did, and was looking for reasons through various dating articles or any online support, which is why we're here on Reddit. After receiving all the information that I could intake, I finally understood that everything online was just bullshit just to make yourself into someone you're not. Also, everyone had their own preference in how to talk to women and keep them interested in you. In my opinion, just keep being yourself because someone will accept you for who you are, so don't be too negative about it. What I also learned from online dating is that it's nothing but an insecure way of meeting someone, but it really shows the weeds from the wheats, what's real and what's not.

We've all been there my friend, and not just guys but girls too, and we all have to learn and understand that we can't make EVERYONE like us, but we can make someone like us. Just got to keep moving forward and keep trying. There are 7.8 billion people in the world, at least half of them are women, and a quarter of them are still single, same goes for men, so the pool of opportunity is still pretty vast for every individual that's single. I'm gonna quote this from a Youtube video, but what they say is true. As human beings, we are raised to believe that being good will bring about good, but sometimes life doesn't happen the way we want when we want, but I do believe that good things will eventually happen to good people. That's how you deal with all the sucky stuff in the mean time that will make all the differences in your life. You can't really just say "screw it all" when something bad happens because that isn't helping out your future. I know it's really hard, but try not to get jaded. Use these experiences to make a better version of yourself, and try not to take it out on the girls in the process.

UnsuitableTrademark · 2020-10-21T05:51:11+00:00

“I’m done”

Bro you’re literally the type who needs this shit most lol

Dontmindthewalls · 2020-10-20T17:27:31+00:00

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Brainless-Wonder · 2020-10-20T22:39:07+00:00

Tinder is a cesspit. Online dating in general is difficult.

If you want some consoling advice, a lot of it is based not even on looks, but appearances. Have a friend take some good, flattering photos and use pics from your vacations or times you did something exciting. Candids are the best for this. I’m not saying lie, I’m saying show off the best parts of your life to make yourself more attractive.

I’m short myself (5’6”) and I do okay on dating apps. Not going to pretend I’m a player, but I’ve got options. Try out Hinge if you like - being online dating, the quality level of the people is still going to be WILDLY variable, but it at least forces the two of you to talk to each other rather than solely liking a first glance photo. It also helps if you’ve got even a shred of a personality and aren’t creepy.

Sadly, depending on where you are real-life dating options may be very, very limited because of COVID. However, keep your head up! I’d suggest joining clubs and going to classes for skills (cooking, dance, martial arts, exercise, whatever else they have around you). Don’t always go with express intent to meet women, but go thinking you’re gonna get better at something. This way, you’ll have more skills under your belt with which you can feel more confident when talking to someone.

Good luck!

aStonedPanda94 · 2020-10-21T01:38:49+00:00

If you believe in evolution, then it makes sense that women want to be with more physically attractive guys, but there are definitely women out there who much prefer a guy with a solid masculine and friendly personality over looks if you had to trade one for the other. Just keep putting yourself out there (in the real world not tinder because girls can’t tell your personality over an app) and just meet people.

GoldSmith64 · 2020-10-21T15:23:59+00:00

Hey :)

Just wanted to remind you of your inherent worth as a valuable human being regardless of your physical attraction. I don’t know if you needed the reminder, but here it is regardless. Be well.

Dontmindthewalls · 2020-10-20T17:54:45+00:00

Have you considered escorts? If it's just sex you want then it may be worth consodering until you, hopefully, find a suitable partner.

Dontmindthewalls · 2020-10-20T17:59:21+00:00

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jsbach123 · 2020-10-22T08:23:42+00:00

The problem is that you're dating on Tinder where you as a person is summed up by a bunch of numbers, words and a few photos.

Reading your replies to this thread, I can tell your attitude sucks horribly.

sadhak_x0 · 2020-10-21T01:35:01+00:00

I would move to a country where you are not short. You are the son of Earth, and you only have one life (I personally moved somewhere else for a job and later for an education cuz there was nothing at home). Time for an extreme solution.

whatsupmynameisSofia · 2020-10-21T04:46:53+00:00

I’m so sorry, I feel for you. Our society is fucked up and there’s no doubt about that. It’s not fair and it’s not okay. However, It would be stupid to accept that that is it and you’re just not attractive. You don’t know how other people see you, people do find you attractive. Buttttt either way fuck people’s approval & attention you gotta be hot for yourself 😌

throwawayofc1112 · 2020-10-21T15:39:30+00:00

Hey bro, I relate a lot. I don’t struggle with height like you, but I’m pretty ugly looking to be honest. I’m also a drug addict (recovering at the moment) with very few redeeming qualities. Girls seem repulsed by me too, the only good thing on me physically is high muscle mass and good body frame, but even then, I just look like a compensating gymcel. I’d like to think my personality is good, but fuck man, it’s not like these women will ever know, they don’t give me any chance. As a result of these things, I’m a 20 year old virgin.

At this point I’m trying to focus on myself; recovery, getting better grades, continuing to hit the gym, and enjoying time with my friends, but I still really really want to succeed in seduction.

backagainfortha1time · 2020-10-24T03:07:16+00:00

Oh no now you’re gonna get called a troll or incel because contrary to popular belief just because a attractive dude that hide his good looks under 600 lbs of fat and other bullshit managed to get girls by doing x doesn’t mean that that ugly mf in the corner is going to have the same results....... this shit should be common sense.

backagainfortha1time · 2020-10-24T03:09:51+00:00

It’s okay to give up, shit like this isn’t meant for everyone and none of these fucking sheep and tell you different. I have a friend that loves basketball, but guess what? He is fucking trash. He’s been to training camps, hired coaches and after all that hard work he’s barely average at the sport. That’s not his fault that’s simply his peak, talent (aka good looks) will ALWAYS beat out “hard work”. The Disney complex is what keeps these monkeys from seeing the truth.

SplitWrong5057 · 2020-10-28T15:31:54+00:00

Your short height is a sexual death sentence. Accept it and dont listen to the virtue signalling here. Especially if it comes from women. Every single one of them prefers tall man and is NOT attracted to short men. Dont listen to the game-myth or personality myth.

Just accept your situation. And guys who tell you that you need to work more on haircuts and games talk bullshit too. You have seen the dating studys and it makes sense to you. They just dont want to admit it.

Title	I’m done
Author	Dontmindthewalls
Upvotes	36
Comments	110
Date	October 20, 2020 5:25 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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