PUA Research - Mystery Method evaluation confirms sexist tendencies of men and women

Naga14 · 2011-08-25T14:28:38+00:00

I really hate how broad "sexism" is. People completely ignore the evolutionary aspects of males and females. It is ignorant to think that we are the same, act the same, and respond to the same stuff. For a man to treat a woman based on how the majority of women act is completely reasonable.

Also, I hate how much publicity "negging" gets. It is not a common tactic but it gets talked about the most.

ehbeeseedee · 2011-08-25T14:51:42+00:00

So where are the studies? There aren't any sources anywhere. This entire article is pretty shit, actually; it doesn't take a genius to realize the implications in the Mystery Method...

WolfInTheField · 2011-08-25T15:13:38+00:00

Yeah, i quit reading after the first 3 lines, because this interview strikes me as just another that only sees pickup as smart manipulation to fuck hot chicks without really being a person worthy of getting any love.

I want a TL;DR if there was anything interesting in there, man.

Edit: The only possible use of this thread would be an ethical discussion about the thin line between pickup and manipulation.

chumpta · 2011-08-25T23:35:26+00:00

PUA theory is neutral. The study makes the assumption that PUA tactics are inherently sexist and interested in casual sex. You could neg a girl in a club or in a marriage, it can theoretically be equally as effective in either situation. You could isolate a girl to get to know her well and enter a relationship with her. Or you could do it to try and sleep with her. The tactic is neutral. The intention is the determinant variable. This ignorance shows that the researchers lack a fundamental understanding of the very thing they’re studying… which honestly doesn’t bode well for the rest of the study.

Mark Manson

ohNoMrBi11 · 2011-08-25T13:42:28+00:00

Interesting data and interpretation - I'm not sure how I feel about it yet, but I'd like to share with the community. IMHO, this isn't shocking news on mystery method (isolation, negging, alpha mindset), as the seddit community certainly goes much farther into self-improvement and social calibration.

At the same time, our counterparts of the XX persuasion will certainly identify with the findings, so it's good to risk some self-evaluation on that front. For me, I wonder whether game belongs in relationships if it promotes sexist tendencies.

skystirling · 2011-08-25T16:46:16+00:00

Related story from Good Magazine.

While also written by a woman, this version is more damning and aggressive in tone toward pick up artists. An example of this is comparing the point about violent behaviour, which was addressed in the Salon and Good article. Below is a quote from the Good article

It turns out that hanging around men and women who despise women isn't just a quick and easy path to getting laid—it's also a pretty effective way to rape someone.

Anyone got full access to the journal article that the articles reference?

Edit: Adjustments for clarity

Wintamint · 2011-08-25T21:36:44+00:00

This researcher doesn't understand his subject at all. I think that's pretty obvious.

2nd_class_citizen · 2011-08-25T15:56:41+00:00

Bullshit - the author's bias from the start is clear. He clearly does not understand the Mystery Method either.

EPICevolved · 2011-08-25T21:39:12+00:00

All the different 'methods' take different approaches to 'game' but ULTIMATELY they are all about making you be and/or appear to be HIGH VALUE which everyone is attracted to, so the Mystery Method (like all the others) should work on every type of woman

CountStacula · 2011-08-25T21:58:57+00:00

lol, lots of ad hominem up in this thread.

Title	PUA Research - Mystery Method evaluation confirms sexist tendencies of men and women
Author	ohNoMrBi11
Upvotes	13
Comments	33
Date	August 25, 2011 1:37 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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