Seddit, Im a black guy...

tompwnsn00bs · 2010-05-09T17:07:59+00:00

think of yourself as a rare pokemon

CarterCool · 2010-05-09T15:38:12+00:00

Am I needlessly pulling the race card here?

Honestly? Yeah, kinda. Even if it does lessen your chances, what can you do about it? There's no angle you can work that will magically make some girl lose whatever racial baggage she has, so just consider it a litmus test- a girl who rejects you based on race isn't worth getting involved with, anyway.

Anyway, even if it is a hindrance for some girls, it will a be bonus for others. At the end of the day, it isn't much different from being rejected for any other physical feature, and my guess is that you'd have more difficulties being fat or short than you would being black.

Just do your thing, and don't sweat it.

impotent_rage · 2010-05-09T16:44:29+00:00

Being a black man could be used as a strength just as easily as it could be a negative. There's a very large swath of white women who are intrigued and curious about black men and would like the opportunity to try it for themselves. Sayings like "once you go black, you don't go back" certainly aren't hurting your cause.

Another phenomenon - the appeal of the nonthreatening exotic. The key to seducing white women is to make it clear in your demeanor and appearance that you aren't (and forgive the stereotyping here) one of "those" black guys. Don't talk/dress/act "ghetto". Just, come off as classy. Where a ghetto black guy might seem dangerous or threatening or too alien or "other" to be relate-able, a classier black guy could instead be the ultimate alpha, the dominant social force and a possible introduction into a whole other world that, without your help, she could never truly see or experience for herself.

Here's another thought, which might be counterintuitive to you. If you want the greatest amount of success with white women, seek out the places where the percentage of whites is greatest, with the lowest amount of diversity. Seek out the places where the most sheltered white women can be found.

Why? Because while these same women would probably be frightened of a group of black men, on the other hand a single black man alone is fascinating and exciting, exotic, an opportunity to participate in an edgier, more "real" lifestyle than anything she's ever experienced in her sheltered bubble. You'll represent all the allure of the forbidden in a way that is completely irresistible. This appeal isn't nearly so strong when there is a lot of diversity and the women are used to interacting with many different races.

I went to BYU. That's Brigham Young University, a Mormon university located in Provo, Utah, where only Mormons attend. You won't find a whiter or more sheltered place on earth. I remember as a freshman, there was one guy in the dorms, and I forgot where he was from, but I want to say Guam or something? It was a French speaking country that was predominantly black.

So you have this single black man who speaks english with a French accent, in the middle of a bunch of boring blonde Utah farm boys. Who do you think all the girls flocked to?

I rememeber one day walking into the cafeteria and seeing him sitting in the middle of a cafeteria table, with at least 20 cute white girls crowded around him, asking him questions, laughing at everything he said, and hanging on his every word. And he wasn't even trying. It's just who he was and what he represented to a bunch of sheltered and repressed white girls who had nearly zero experience with any diversity. He was totally irresistible to them.

vasarih · 2010-05-09T16:11:25+00:00

Dude, you can pull off ( in my opinion) one of the greatest cold approaches ever. Find a girl sitting at the bar, sit next to her, put your hand on hers, and say " What would your father think if we were dating?" Any girl with any sort of a rebellious streak will be all over that.

mynewname · 2010-05-09T15:00:04+00:00

My experience is that black guys are in high demand among women of all races. I feel like they're sexualized in a way other men aren't.

m0nk3yb0y · 2010-05-09T16:40:32+00:00

Stop with the math :)

Approach based on eye contact... they'll already know what skin color you have by that point and so won't shut you down because of it.

m-m-m-monster · 2010-05-09T19:19:44+00:00

where a white pua might have 80% shot at 60% of the women he meets Ive got a 60% chance with 40%

It's alright dude, as a short Asian the numbers are even worse for me. But what can I do about it?

Forget about your alleged "flaws" that you can't fix, concentrate on the ones that you can do something about.

imonfire · 2010-05-10T00:35:17+00:00

I'm a white chick who is a bit of a target for black men given my curvy physique, and I live in Canada so interracial hook-ups and relationships are more accepted here. I think I've only ever had one black dude approach me in a way that wasn't entirely degrading. My advice to you: don't be creepy or objectify your target sexually and I think you'll be good to go :)

MarginOfError · 2010-05-09T17:33:08+00:00

WTF planet do you live on? Every single white/asian or latino women I've ever met all claim to be in love with black men.

dmun · 2010-05-10T21:18:03+00:00

As another black guy, I think I get your issue: it's the double edged sword that comes with being stereotyped as hypersexual/masculine. If you're quiet and don't fit stereotypes, you're almost worse off sometimes--- expectations of your behavior make you undeservedly suspect to a certain segment of woman looking for that "adventure."

I think of that as a soft racism. Others are just normal racist. It's hard to feel like it's about You as a person not You as an object.

I find black girls in the north of the US don't dig me because I'm not hood enough for them (the south is bad but has more socioeconomic variety, leveling the playing field).

It's a bitch, huh? Still, I think advice about staying classy and staying well outside the standard works pretty well. Me? I find that variety works--- I don't deal with college girls, as they're usually into the worst stereotypes while professional women are really, truly open to the "exotic thrill" with class and goth girls just love my style (which is anything but goth).

lookslikespeed · 2010-05-09T15:08:22+00:00

We're all looking for our angle, the thing that makes us stand out from the crowd, right? You just found yours.

Interracial stuff shouldn't be too much of a problem with whites/latinos, at least in a decent sized city. I'm curious, what city are you in?

wally_fish · 2010-05-09T15:20:11+00:00

Not sure what an AA is, but the truth is that lots of people don't consider people out of 'their' ethnic/cultural group to be dating material. I don't think race is the only factor there, so if you blend in well otherwise it wouldn't be an issue. If you want a more reliable answer, go to an area with a more diverse mix of people (or a mostly-black place with people culturally similar to you) and try your game there. Do a ruthless, by-the-numbers comparison. After that, it's up to deciding for yourself.

CallMeMrBadGuy · 2010-05-09T15:28:39+00:00

I dont think anyone can truly answer this question. As it varies by area and how you come off to your target.I'd say yes and no.

Though I do agree that you shouldnt have too many trouble with white or latino in general especially if your in a progressive area. It's the far-east asians who give me trouble.

dan_proto · 2010-05-09T20:27:16+00:00

If you live in the deep south, yeah, it would probably be a problem, otherwise it's really an advantage. You're different, so it automatically puts you in the spotlight. Take advantage of that.

rubygeek · 2010-05-09T21:20:58+00:00

Interracial attraction is hit and miss, yes.

The upside is that there is a significant number of women for whom you being of a different race to them gives you a major benefit. In my experience this outweigh any loss from the "don't date outside my race" crowd.

I see the same thing when I approach black women - some clearly are not interested because I'm not their race, while others are all over me because I'm white (to the extent that they use and/or ask me to use rather politically incorrect language...). I find I actually have better luck with black women than with white women.

But most simply don't care. And some of the ones that insist they do care won't care if they get to know you first or you otherwise amp attraction enough before you make any serious moves, or if you make clear you're not after a relationship etc.. (from what I've seen at least, you'll find plenty of women that'd never date outside their race that finds it terribly exciting to fuck someone of a different race exactly because they see it as a bit of a taboo... bigotry is a big driver of attraction)

Expect some of these girls to be quite racist, though. The amount of racist sentiments I've heard from black girls... If you're prepared to look past that, there's a lot of really nasty sex in that ;) Not that I'd date those girls.

Horatio__Caine · 2010-05-10T04:24:29+00:00

Drop the Latino bars. Go to white bars. (I've always found that my latino friends are unimpressed by black guys)

There will be a percentage of girls who will not hook up with a black guy, but that's true of any demographic (eg: some girls won't hook up with short guys, some girls won't have sex with a guy they just met, some girls won't date a guy who isn't make six figures...)

The upside of being black is that you get the positive stereotype of being sexually knowledgeable and capable. No one assumes a black man's going to be bad in bed.

The downside is that you can't sneak in under any radars. Girls will KNOW you're flirting with them. Guess what? You should embrace it. There's a reason that the "always on" game works for so many young black men. Flirt shamelessly. And don't look back.

TLDR: When everyone already believes that you have a 9 inch penis, you need to convince them that you are normal (ie: not a creep), not that you're sexually capable/viable.

barryn13087 · 2010-05-09T15:24:01+00:00

No it shouldn't, It is all in your head.

heartsong · 2010-05-09T16:43:29+00:00

As a white woman interested in black guys I have to give another view on this. If the women in the bars aren't interested in you, then something is majorly wrong with either them or you. Are you coming on too strong? Not strong enough? Do you make it known that you are interested in the women? As for pulling the race card here....there is no other way to look at this than as pulling the race card. You are black and in a predominantly white and/or latino bar looking for women. But... there are a LOT of white women that are interested in black men. I myself have a hard time meeting black men that are interested in white women because of the area that I live in.

kaiise · 2010-05-10T07:16:40+00:00

i found the Old Spice choice of spokesmodel for their new ads intersting, now back to me.

sneakatdatavibe · 2010-05-11T01:34:01+00:00

Nothing should affect your game.

bsdboy · 2010-05-09T15:06:13+00:00

You should hang out over at 4chan for a bit to help build some self esteem

Title	Seddit, Im a black guy...
Author	CarterCool
Upvotes	21
Comments	38
Date	May 9, 2010 2:14 PM UTC (16 years ago)
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