Black civil rights organizations are failing black men.

Blutarg · 2021-04-26T14:10:41+00:00

A black man in America is about five times as likely to be murdered as a black woman OR a white woman. You'd think a group calling itself "black lives matter" would at least pay lip service to that fact.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

UnHope20 · 2021-04-26T14:18:41+00:00

Anyone looking for a black masculist sub check out the one that I just started r/BMJA

My ideas are based on the work of Dr. T Hasan Johnson, Dr. Tommy J. Curry and other theorists who are changing the conversation about race and gender.

Black feminism has been undermining the success of black boys for decades and we need to protect our brothers.

Please join up and add to the conversation.

NOTE: We accept ALL races.

RoastedPony · 2021-04-26T12:42:57+00:00

It's kind of the problem with all the "woke" movements against racism and transphobia, homophobia and the like. They all dislike men, but this is a big part of the puzzle on why racism, transphobia and homophobia exist to begin with.

The source of so much of the transphobia and homophobia is misandry(goddamn auto-correct doesn't even recognize the word...). The reason why TERF hate transwomen is that they believe they are men and they do so because they hate men and think they are all dangerous predator that would do anything to attack women. Or the transphobia/homophobia is rooted in more tame misandry with them just expecting traditional masculinity and anything "feminine" done by a man is bad. If there wasn't the misandry to begin with putting those expectation then there wouldn't be pushback against transwomen and gays since it wouldn't be breaking the misandric model of masculinity. What could people possibly say about transwomen or transmen if they didn't hold either misandric or misogynic views to begin with?

As for racism, a lot of the prejudice against black men are just extension of prejudice against men in general. The racism which black men are victim off would be quite different if there wasn't the underlying misandry. That is in itself intersectionality.

TheLostTinkerer · 2021-04-26T16:41:43+00:00

I'm not an American, so maybe I'm mistaken.

But wasn't the entire blm gaining traction after George Floyd's murder? Last I checked he was a male.

So blm will use the atrocities against black men to pander their propaganda, but they'll benefit women out of it; got it!!

(Also side note, I don't know how effective this movement is given a co-founder literally purchased four homes.)

Vandechoz · 2021-04-26T13:00:57+00:00

the irony being, of course, that black male victims of violence are what BLM uses to spread its message

male disposability rears its ugly head yet again

Burlerevyy · 2021-04-26T16:14:35+00:00

Black men are at higher risk of domestic violence and sexual violence than white men in the u.s

FesseEnChocolat · 2021-04-26T22:22:28+00:00

Yeah I saw some people say "Black man are the white people of black people" and in those circles even if most wont say it, they definitely believe it.

Even thought we are the one who suffer the most from racial profiling, police brutality and violences, we're seen as privileged for reasons I dont know.

That's just men disposability and gynocentrism manifesting into those woke black circles. Nothing new.

peanutbutterjams · 2021-04-26T23:55:48+00:00

Since 2015, 51 black women have been shot by police.

In the same timeframe, 1,453 black men have been shot by police.

Women represent 3.3% of the black people shot by police.

Source <--- The best source for this kind of information, incidentally. Just click on 'jump to database', which is about halfway down the page.

black villages ... black families

Sounds very segregationist to me. Is an interracial family less important to BLM?

jpla86 · 2021-04-26T17:56:28+00:00

This is one of the reasons why slightly more Black men voted for Trump in 2020 than they did in 2016.

nacho-chonky · 2021-04-26T17:58:49+00:00

This is disgusting, black men are much more often victims than black women, back when lynchings were popular it was black men 99.99% of the time, feminism and women are gatekeeping equality keeping the black man down

boundarychimps · 2021-04-26T16:37:49+00:00

BLM isn't a civil rights organization, try the NAACP or somesuch.

endernyc · 2021-04-27T03:51:17+00:00

Lol have you read the about page on BLM.com?

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

No mention of the VAST MAJORITY 90%+ impacted by what their movement is for. Social media did nothing to distinguish the impact on men and incarceration numbers. You still see most artistic depictions of women and almost never a black man.

I ultimately support their movement and I recognize that it’s a conflicted relationship between black men and those groups they single out. Did people protest for George Floyd, a black man? Yes. I still think it’s strange that they wouldn’t want to be an explicit champion for the. Male victims and try to change some of the belief systems that put these groups at odds.

Ultimately it just comes down to the same thing with feminism. It’s “in” to be vocally supportive of women but definitely not so with men because of history. We don’t do well with nuance. We haven’t come around to the idea that history was dominated by a few men but mostly just the rich and the rest are suffering is an extremely different but still toxic way.

I’m not bashing these groups I just really can’t get onboard with moral authorities that can’t be questioned when they fail to represent everyone they say they do.

IPLAYTHEBIGTHING · 2021-04-26T19:10:46+00:00

ok this is very very off point. but what is a black vilage?

Phantombiceps · 2021-04-26T19:27:21+00:00

it wouldn’t be better if they included men. That virtue signaling astrology shop wishlist is not how civil rights are won. Throwing men in is just adding our name to an empty string of words. As adolph reed said, you can’t have a “movement by tweet” . They are just the NGO industrial complex at this point, just as unlikely to help men as to attain those “ black villages”

silencedmajority1 · 2021-04-27T02:25:13+00:00

Maybe black men should stay with their baby mamas, don't be hoe. Also stop putting down their own women first

Title	Black civil rights organizations are failing black men.
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Date	April 26, 2021 11:37 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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