Controversy ensues when science butts heads with liberal ideology: Few seem able to hear that women can be as violent as men in domestic disputes

Oncefa2 · 2021-07-05T14:06:29+00:00

On most topics, scientific research seems to line up with liberal or left-wing politics pretty closely. Whether it's climate change, evolution, drug addiction as a disease, or any number of other topics, liberals usually seem to be on the right side of science. But this isn't always the case, especially when it comes to gender and sometimes even sexuality.

Well UBC psychology professor Don Dutton teaches in Vancouver, Canada, which is much more "liberal" and "well intentioned" than many other countries. And despite being liberal himself, he has run into roadblocks in Canada when the facts and evidence do not line up with existing liberal ideologies.

Many gender stereotypes around violence and victimization which aren't backed up by the data are slow to die in Canada. Despite having a near academic consensus behind him about the symmetrical nature of domestic violence, he has found this hard to sell to Canadians, and especially to Canadian lawmakers.

The data indicates that domestic violence is most commonly bidirectional, with women being more violent against men than the reverse. Public policy in Canada does not recognize this reality though. Men who seek help are often called abusers. And men who call the police are often arrested instead of their attackers.

In one case, a husband called police after his drunken wife attacked him. The police found the man with a knife sticking out of his body. They still arrested him.

Dutton notes that conservatives often aren't much better than liberals, but conservatives don't hold institutional or social power in Canada, so that isn't really an issue.

Liberal-left politicians and activists have turned domestic violence into solely a women’s rights issue, often defining the entire category as “violence against women.”

Conservative politicians don’t get the picture either, he says. Since they want to appear protective of women, they appeal to religious supporters by framing partner violence as a lack of “family values.”

So basically nobody takes the side of men. Or the side of science and evidence, in this case. Everyone traditionally takes the side of women, they just have different reasons for it.

The-Author · 2021-07-05T14:32:35+00:00

All people of all ideologies tend to have a problem when the science isn't on their side, but I've noticed that the left has a particular problem with science unlike other ideologies (keep in mind that I'm saying this as a leftist).

Many leftists/ liberals tend to assume that their ideologies are automatically in line with science and thus based in reality unlike more right leaning conservative ideologies. For the most part this is true, concerning things such as climate change, evolution etc. But not always.

This belief that their beliefs are when they encounter science that disagrees with what they believe in, usually on matters related to race an gender, they tend to either just assume the research/ researchers are biased and wrong or try to pressure the people involved to retracting their research like what they did with the people behind the Male Variability Hypothesis when it posited a potential scientific explanation for why men are found at both the top an bottom of society respectively.

Spacct · 2021-07-05T15:41:01+00:00

I thought this was well known already. Lesbian couples have by far the highest rates of domestic violence of any pairing.

ILoveBigBoobsYesIDo · 2021-07-05T14:59:27+00:00

Hahahhahaa! Fucking muppets on both ends. I've had arguments where feMIniSts said I'm a conservative and also called a liberal with these covid deniers, when all I do was presenting scientific arguments. Seems like identity politics/ideologies will ruin us all.

With all these numerous scientific advancement, why the fuck are we regressing as a human race???

Algoresball · 2021-07-08T22:25:31+00:00

This reminds me of the Bull Burr bit “ No Reason To Hit A Woman”. I won’t butcher his company in a Reddit comment, but it’s a great bit of Comedy

griii2 · 2021-07-06T09:24:53+00:00

Am I the only one here who hates it when the word LIBERAL is used not in the classical sense but rather to mean left/social/progressive? Of course I live in EU :)

Title	Controversy ensues when science butts heads with liberal ideology: Few seem able to hear that women can be as violent as men in domestic disputes
Author	Oncefa2
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Comments	31
Date	July 5, 2021 2:03 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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