Feminists think they are the moral authority

bottleblank · 2023-07-17T14:17:10+00:00

It doesn't need to help her argument, at that point, it's supposed to shame the guy into shutting up by pointing out how little he knows about anything, how morally bankrupt he is, and how much of a failure he is.

She wins by default if she's able to convince other people that he's ignorant, broken, abusive, aggressive, and regressive, and she also gets to feel smug that she's allowed to insult him with impunity. She "wins the argument", she "puts him in his place" because he's "spreading disinformation", and she "makes him feel bad because he deserves it".

Then, if he stands up for himself, she even gets to show evidence of how much of a woman-hating bastard he is, "just like all the rest".

Because nobody's going to take the time to actually think about how she's simply insulting him, how much of an asshole move that is, how he's now a victim of abusive behaviour himself, how it's irrelevant to the argument, or what the argument even was before she dropped that on him.

Net_Flux3 · 2023-07-17T13:37:32+00:00

Sexual harassment seems to be their new rhetorical strategy, true.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-07-17T15:23:17+00:00

Feminists lost any claim to moral authority when they started to demonize men and fight for laws and regulations that discriminate based on sex.

aerial_coitus · 2023-07-17T20:14:49+00:00

Here is the solution.

Do not talk to feminists. Ever. At all. End of story. Problem solved.

You know those videos on YouTube that say to never talk to the cops if you get pulled over for speeding?

Same idea, just apply it to feminists. Do not talk to them. Do not engage. Ever. No exceptions.

You will be amazed at how much easier and more stress free your life becomes.

Thank me later.

walterwallcarpet · 2023-07-17T18:42:26+00:00

Women are encouraged to believe they can succeed without too much effort. Then they find that they can't really compete in the outside world (because of Patriarchy.... and stuff/s), even in a simple argument. So..... they always default to drawing attention to female sexuality - as this is, often, all they have to offer. In music, for example, the names of all girl bands have a tedious theme going on..... The Slits, Fanny, Hole, Wet Leg, etc, etc. As for being moral authorities, males follow deontic moral codes based on idealism, with ethics, jurisprudence and justice systems which were designed to be fair for everyone across the board. But, for the past half-century, feminists have made incursions into politics & law, and female ethics follow teleological principles. 'If its good for women, it must be right.'

shydude92 · 2023-07-17T17:47:23+00:00

You basically hit the nail on the head. They think they're the moral authority. Therefore, the rules of logic and consistency do not apply to them.

Think of the way an authority operates. One of the features of a strong authority figure is you do not question it. Therefore, the authority figure can say whatever they want, even if it's not only morally bankrupt but doesn't make any internal sense, but those who are underneath the authority figure have to justify every word and are only considered validated if accepted by the authority figure, even if aforementioned figure has no legitimate basis for that authority.

This is what has happened to Western society over the last 50 years. Feminists have gradually tightened their grip on authority, and what's worse by sitting back and burying our heads in the sand, men have let them do it. So now, they don't have to justify most of the things they say, but we have to form long-winded explanations of every point we make, right down to the choice of words we employ.

This is a perfect example of "the medium is the message" in action. Men and our allies may have more logical arguments when dealing with feminists, but many people aren't even engaging in logical thinking***, but even if they do there is a very visible subtext and that's as the side forced to defend its points vigorously while the opposing side's arguments are allowed to stand with relative ease, MRAs are seen as the weaker side, regardless of the strength of our arguments. Hence, the less thoughtful portion of neutral observers will side with feminists automatically, while a good portion of those who see our points, will still side with them out of cynical self-interest, because in practical terms in the real world, it's often not about who is right, only who is dominant. And in many everday situations, this is how political correctness is born.

***Psychologists actually have a term for this---they call System I an instinctive appraisal of a situation or argument involving interpersonal relations that focuses mostly on ad hominem factors like social status and appearance, and System II, a slower-acting cognitive process that processes the logical merits of each person's argument, and then uses that input to arrive at the correct conclusion.

WeEatBabies · 2023-07-17T13:46:59+00:00

Do not get a girlfriend!

They want you to GF one of them so they don't have to work!

They will lie about being on birth control, grape you, get the state to common-law marry you and extract alimony and child support.

Do not do what they tell you!

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-07-17T15:17:58+00:00

That is a good point:). Women do see themselves as a prize.

I do admit that blueorange22 made a bad impression on me in a call on some show, but the host did start off with saying that in his opinion men's rights activists are lunatics.

That was few years back, maybe now he would start off with incels:)

Guyonstockmarket · 2023-07-17T19:01:21+00:00

the word incel has lost its meaning anyway. Half the time its just used when they see someone they don’t like

MrSaturn33 · 2023-07-17T14:15:23+00:00

I’m aware that this is what they do in an attempt to win an argument without any valid points, but the reason they think it actually has any validity itself is more interesting to me. Ironically this was an argument about “sexualizing” and “objectifying” women. Calling a man a virgin or incel says that women are sexual objects for men to use to prove how cool and worthy they are. I’m not sure how it helps her argument.

Exactly, they end up objectifying themselves. If you dig deep enough, their line of thinking isn't distinguishable from the traditional chauvinism they claim to be against.

Session-Special · 2023-07-17T16:22:28+00:00

you should call it out. That women are not the object of life - its the pursuit of happiness and that her definition would end with a girl friend and that is not true. If you had done that - she would have lost the debate by all accounts.

freeball_1 · 2023-07-17T22:32:33+00:00

This is cognitive dissonance on their part. When it becomes clear that they can't win an argument by logic they resort to name calling. I'm married and I've been with the same woman for nearly 30 years and they still call me an incel because they can't possibly conceive of the idea that a man could both please a woman and disagree with them.

SmellyGoat11 · 2023-07-18T00:21:24+00:00

My response to someone throwing the incel word around willy nilly is to simply respond by saying "hope you've never complained about slut shaming."

Oz70NYC · 2023-07-17T15:48:08+00:00

The guy in the video's 1st mistake was arguing with a feminist. That would imply she has the potential to make an actually rational and compelling statement about, well...ANYTHING. Most of them don't...or rather...they can't. Arguing with a feminist is like arguing with a child. Is a child capable of making a point that hold any form of logic or congruence? NOPE. And neither can a feminist.

I said what I said.

MISOGYNISTIC-ANIMAL · 2023-07-17T16:20:14+00:00

So fucking much. Its the most retarded, low iq, shit ever, i cant think of anything intelligent or interesting to say so ill just regurgitate the same retarded shit another dumb moron said. Yeah i dont agree with a wahman so there's no way ive ever had sex. Its so fucking laughable.

New-Baby5471 · 2023-07-18T01:28:11+00:00

I think feminism lost most of its principles to postmarxism.

Same sad story for many other movements and ideologies, though.

Ok-Visit5628 · 2023-07-17T16:45:38+00:00

Their strategy is not well planned. This is for the majority of them. They have a beginning but they don't have knowledge. All they have is things they have heard from someone else that is empty in the top.

You can use alot of their argument against them. And whit a squirt of some knowledge you can push back using facts.

This give more selvfestim and the feminist lose the treed they are babbling about and feel smaller...

Acousmetre78 · 2023-07-18T04:47:15+00:00

How can they claim to understand all human experience. They dismiss men’s point of view, many dislike trans perspectives, and they always claim to come from the morally correct places. My mother used feminism to abuse me as a child for being male. I owed mom for what all the men did to her she said.

Sweddybob69 · 2023-07-18T08:16:38+00:00

It's the same logic Bill Burr talks about. They'll do anything to try and make you lose your temper so they can play victim of the big, nasty, misogynistic man.

John-Walker-1186 · 2023-07-18T11:45:41+00:00

“Get a girlfriend, incel”

Some reddit Mods said something like that to me, but I actually do have one lol wokeness is a new religion

DoctorStorm · 2023-07-17T15:31:58+00:00

Feminists think they are a lot of things.

Doesn't make it true, and doesn't mean I am forced to agree with them right now.

If it gets to the point where they've hijacked all the institutions and authorities and rewritten legislation making it full-blown indoctrinated and legal obligation to believe what they believe, which slowly but surely this is becoming the case in Western culture, I'll simply never come back, that's fine by me.

Rare_Perspective6164 · 2023-07-17T16:43:42+00:00

They can swing around with their tits out all they want, while the men just simply opt out. Sometimes a crying baby doesn’t really know what it wants.

nathanv70 · 2023-07-17T17:31:44+00:00

Well, there are reasons that they believe they are or have the moral authority. Biologically speaking, the goal is to reproduce, and women are the sexual selectors. Therefore, they chose who gets to pass on their genes. This means that they hold the ultimate authority (because they are ONE of the selectors). Remember, women farm out the selection process to men who process everything through a hierarchy of competence (which generally includes all of the relevant factors for survival and resource acquisition). So, if they don't chose you, because they select for 'value', then you must not have value.

So then follow this, if you don't have a woman co-signing your point then you must not have value because a woman WOULD HAVE ALREADY selected you due to your value. Women, more specifically feminists, CANNOT divorce their thinking from their hindbrain because of how they are wired.

It doesn't help her argument but it's also funny when you reveal that you either have kids already or more than one wife/girlfriend, etc. It backfires when you can say 'if you don't know the definition of the words that you're using to insult me, then shut up'. It goes against a woman's nature when you've leveled up to the point where you (the man) are the selector. It's technically a rare thing for men to get to that place in life.

Remember, women don't actually fight for their values, their views. They get other men to do it for them. That's why women use S.I.G.N language (shame, insults, guilt, and the need to be right). That's what they revert to when they don't have good arguments.

Rare_Perspective6164 · 2023-07-17T16:44:31+00:00

You ever try and reason with a toddler?

ManWhoSoldTheWorld20 · 2023-07-17T20:59:36+00:00

The problem with everything you just said is that it starts out with youtube comment section and internet. The internet is what the lower mammals use to solve disputes that aren't really an issue anywhere and even if they come to a consensus nobody who matters really cares. Farmers still farm, Welders still weld, plumbers still can't pass the electrical journeyman's exam. Nothing changes, real change is spurred through quiet reflection and a deep connection with our fellow man, or the impromptu application of high explosive. You see, in reality the feminists are not the underdog, they're our mothers and grandmothers who went to work making the explosive for the men to get their freak on.

So long as human kind is mortal, there will always be those advertising to learn the hardest of lessons: God made big men and God made little men, Sam Colt made us all equal. So until a person is willing to risk something of themselves over the outcome of a dispute, paying them any mind only further encourages them to act like a clown.

NameIs-Already-Taken · 2023-07-18T09:41:26+00:00

Women feminists always revert to shaming when they run out of arguments.

Upset-Blood-6689 · 2023-07-17T17:20:30+00:00

Its because society dosent shame their behavior they just complain and do nothing but if a guy makes on period joke all hell brakes lose with these dodos men and women act so retarded towards men now.

wow9298 · 2023-07-18T00:07:01+00:00

Feminism needs to disappear before the human race disappears 🤷‍♂️

crippledhermit · 2023-07-17T15:51:17+00:00

So do Christians and Muslims. No one believes them either.

Historical-Room2430 · 2023-07-17T21:59:50+00:00

You guys are so close to the point. So fucking close. Women are, currently in society, sexual objects for men to use. Point blank period.

The fact that you guys honestly consider a woman not having sex with you on the same level of oppression as being sexually abused, forced to modify your appearance to fit societal standards, being not believed when talking about said abuse, being mistreated in the workplace, talked over when speaking about literally anything shows that you actually just think with your dicks. Women think with their hearts. They are kind, compassionate, empathetic people who are not granted the same human rights that you are.

You guys are disgusting. This sub is just as much a hate group as all lives matter. It should be removed.

DrewYetti · 2023-07-21T15:22:37+00:00

Of course these feminist like to think that because they are women and in this society “women are wonderful.” Even though feminists believe they have this moral authority but what they lack or refuse to accept is moral responsibility.

porn4pussy · 2023-07-24T21:10:39+00:00

None of it matters. We ARE sexual objects. I'm so tired of "moral" woman deciding how I view myself or how I want men to view me.

Title	Feminists think they are the moral authority
Author	Altkog
Upvotes	399
Comments	92
Date	July 17, 2023 12:45 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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