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Discussionanonymous-platypus1/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:33 PM
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Women are making above average men “settle” for them? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:37 PM
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Why does god need to be all-knowing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:15 AM
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I disagree. If we aren’t feeling it and it’s obvious there’s no reason to think there would be connection as friends. Even if there was one, no one is obligated to give you company or friendship. If I’m out looking to date then I am out looking to date. If you established that we aren’t going to work then there’s no reason for me to sit there chatting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:32 PM
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You know that’s not a right that the government has to enforce…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:22 PM
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Yo don’t say that out loud. It’s all fun and games until you’re making a pot roast at midnight because he said he was craving it….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:27 AM
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Agree! I think a smaller maker adds a personal touch that you can’t get anywhere else. Even if something is a “luxury” item.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:04 AM
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I did! It was soooo cheap comparatively to the name brand Italian leather here. Somehow the quality seems better too. I
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:58 AM
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So am I! But honestly it would get nasty. Just wait for purge time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:25 AM
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Oh I’m very lucky too. My love language is gifting and he’s hard to shop for because he very often spoils himself, so I had to get creative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:21 AM
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See my replies!not mine! I’m engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:17 AM
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I went to Europe earlier this year and got him a bunch of handmade leather goods that- a nice overnight bag, a leather portfolio/journal thing, and a pair of shoes and a belt. I also got him some cologne and a bracelet and a puzzle because he loves puzzles. Been hiding the leather stuff for months and having mini panic attacks trying to make sure he didn’t find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:16 AM
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Omg heyyyy! Thank you. He did it like a few days later I think. Everything’s been a blur to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:06 AM
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Been gone for a while enjoying the premarital bliss and wedding planning stress. But I’m back because he’s on a business trip and I couldn’t go with him this time. Buuuut this means I get to spend the next two days wrapping his Christmas gifts without worrying about him seeing!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:59 AM
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It literally is a man though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:57 AM
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Women can have stupid and unrealistic standards for what they want in a partner. And this is coming from a woman who’s engaged to a very successful man. Social media has poisoned EVERYONES view of what a partner should be. But if I have to pick something specifically that I see women doing, it’s having stupid lines drawn in the sand for what you want in a partner. Namely, the money thing. It’s unrealistic to think every single man is going to make $250,000. Without making that yourself, unless y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:45 AM
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My friend always sends me her bumble nonsense. Wanted to share
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:37 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/l9wbd11rc57c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e3fa8828a893b876a5be8a358a64373a8bce2b6 is this supposed to be funny somehow?? What’s the alternative to how you’d date? I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:33 AM
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Wait putting uggs outside because they smell is being “less fussy”? Do you know what bullshit some women put up with from men regarding cleanliness and hygiene?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:53 AM
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I’m confused to see how this is a woman’s issue or even an issue with women? If men are the ones being desperate and providing “unworthy” women with attention and interest how is that a problem they need to fix? Let’s be real, an unattractive man can get attention from hot women if he has lots of money. He knows they are with him for the money. Do you really think women who are unattractive don’t know they aren’t the conventional looking type? It doesn’t matter if you can get attention from peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:46 PM
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Honestly In this day and age unless there’s a reason for someone to be a trainee at 30 then what have they been doing with their time? I understand if they need time to improve their situation, but as I said before, that person has other things to worry about before they start dating. While there’s nothing wrong with being a teller, I do think there is something wrong with someone being a teller while trying to date an 18 year old. It shows a lack of maturity on the older parties part. If you, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:03 PM
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Most 18 year olds in the United States are not acting as fully functional adults. You are hyper focusing on the rare few who HAD to step into the shoes of a more responsible party. I don’t care if it’s infuriating you because you had a different experience, it’s the truth. The 18 year olds that have to grow up fast have to because they have no choice. I personally feel that 18 is too young to join the military. Especially when those same people that are signing up to fight and die for their coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:57 PM
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I am a 30+ year old woman, recently and extremely happily engaged. My partner and I have so much fun together. Early in our relationship we had fun together just getting to know one another. When I was 18 I was way more neurotic about dating. I just said yes to everything and pretended like I was having a good time out of fear the guy would leave or otherwise wouldn’t like me. I can guarantee my fiancé prefers me happy as opposed to just going along with everything based on fear. Again, what stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:47 PM
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What the fuck is an aspiring intern? Do i think that 18 year olds should be able to seeking out seminars talks and lunches and learns in order to learn about company culture and a career path, sure. But do I think it would be creepy and wildly inappropriate if one of those older experts entered into an relationship with that same 18 year old, absolutely. And so would the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:25 PM
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…so you’re suggesting the the 30 year old chat up the office intern? And in every office I’ve worked in the interns have been mostly college sophomores. Not freshmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:03 PM
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Have you talked to an 18 year old? My brothers and I have a huge age gap, and we had very different experiences in everything. Even just in communication, humor, etc. I cannot image dating someone that young. They are also fickle and flighty as hell. So much emotions running around, about things that, in my experience, aren’t that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:36 PM
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What 18 year olds are going to office mixers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:33 PM
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An 18 year old having the same life experience as a 30 year old is usually never on purpose. Even 18 year olds in the military, despite going into a career field that’s high risk, still need a LOT of oversight and instruction. An 18 year old that’s as mature as an 30 year old that actually acts their age, was probably failed by the adults around them. This may be me speaking from a western veiwpoint, but an 18 year old usually has not developed enough life skills to be on par with a 30 year old.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:33 PM
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An 18 year old and a 30 year old have very little actually in common. Experience, life goals, values, it’s all going to be different. Even trad people don’t tend to have much in common with their partners outside of expectations. A 30 year old man saying he connects better with an 18 year old is, on average, an outright lie. Or, that 30 year old is extremely immature and should not be dating. In general, 30 year old men with means aren’t going after the 18 year old who has nothing and who has do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:23 PM
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Someone from mainland China and someone from the US will most likely still have similar cultural references for some things. They will know a lot of the same music, have similar taste, the other things are simply family dynamic and social references that can be learned. But it’s also why most people still date within their socioeconomic background. My fiancé and I are in an IR relationship. I grew up well off and he grew up extremely well off. Culturally, our holiday practices and traditions are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:19 PM
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What stuff are you trying to do with a 20 year old, as a 30+ year old man, that 30 year old women don’t want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:46 PM
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Well. No, but your interest at 30 are going to be very different than a 20 year olds interest. Music tastes, what’s considered fun. Very few 30 year old men, especially the ones that post here, are going to want to go clubbing and such with a 20 year old every weekend. They are going to have no interest in hanging out with her friends because all her friends are probably young 20s with young 20s problems. You’re going to feel like an outsider. Or you’re going to be one of those old boyfriends th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:43 PM
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Why would an attorney, who bills by the hour usually, tell someone to settle? Trials take wayyy more work. Especially in child support cases where the man can usually get the custody he’s asking for. Usually the men don’t want to put up the fight and/or the money to go to trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:53 AM

He’s amazing! Definitely something I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:58 AM

I think he’s about to propose 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:26 AM
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How does she have you if you’re out Fucking other women? She doesn’t have you. By virtue of being high value that means the nuances and draw backs that come with divorce don’t impact you nearly as much because of the sheer amount of money you have to handle a divorce and get attorneys. Letting him do something like that when she’s not 100% into the idea is just asking for the relationship to implode. And honestly if she is into the idea (of something one sided) I don’t think that woman actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:50 PM
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So communicate with your partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:11 PM
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Men that have status and money date differently. Look at how many NBA/celebrities go to sex workers and prostitutes. They aren’t using sex to get validation, they are having sex just because they enjoy it and it’s available with ease. A HVM that wants to be monogamous will be monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:10 PM
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Why is your adult daughter having a life causing your psychological pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:40 PM
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…..okay. So you’re just trying to back pedal now? Even though you said you were from the balkans?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:13 PM
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Turkish hand -kissing is usually gender non-specific. Everyone does it. And that still depends on the culture the people are from within the region. Are you from Albania? Croatia? Are you Slavic? Balkan’s isn’t one fucking place. You’re being non-specific so as not to get caught up in a lie when you have to deal with a regions culture. But the balkans is a geographical region, not a fucking country Did you just randomly google Turkish culture? Unless you married a Hindu woman there are very few …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:59 PM
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My guy stop Fucking capping. Why would she put up with you cheating if she has family money? She can leave, take half your shit (more if she finds out you tried to commit fraud and hide assets) and have you in the hook for child support. While still having her family money. You’re lying. Trad women also DO NOT pay for men. That’s the whole point of being trad. Any money you get is yours, not his. There ain’t no way she bought you a house and a car. My god, if this wasn’t so sad it would be hilar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:30 PM
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You also said your trad wife bought you a house and a car? How if she doesn’t leave the kitchen or work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:23 PM
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The LARP is strong today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:22 PM
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Lolol you’re acting like this isn’t the internet where things can be created. You’re definitely not a rich man if you’re playing video games daily for hours and mainlining porn. There’s no way you’d be able to maintain your money that way. Maybe you’re a programmer that got lucky in the bitcoin/crypto craze, but even then, no woman is willingly putting up with you weighing her daily. It just does not happen. You’re either hot enough to have no need to do this, or you’re not hot enough to get awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:10 PM
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Wait. Is this woman a sex doll? Because that would explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:00 PM
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Nah dude. You’re actually lying. There’s no way a trad wife is letting you fuck other women while she’s out doing labor in the kitchen. Especially if she’s skinny, she would just leave you for a richer man that will pay for a maid and a chef. Even my rich religious friends don’t cook and clean for their husbands constantly. Rich men don’t actually care about a woman “being hot” like that because he can pay for her to be as hot as he wants her to be. He wouldn’t waste money getting a body composi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:55 PM
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also, wait. Are you saying you got a body fat composite on your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:46 PM
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45 kg is a 100 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:45 PM
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Those statistics change based on the source and what age range you look it. By that number it’s 33% not 63%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:23 PM
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Casual sex between consenting partners is perfectly fine. I see nothing wrong with casual sex for those that want to engage in it. There’s zero reason for casual sex to end in pregnancy unless they want it to. And if it does then both parties need to be prepared to make decisions regarding that pregnancy. There’s no reason for those men not be able to engage in causal sex and date the women they are having casual sex with. Or they can choose not to engage in casual sex and just…date? If they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:15 PM
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If they are having causal sex then they aren’t struggling. You don’t know what’s going on in the dating world; you seem a bit detached from reality. This can’t be both ways. Either they are fed up with not getting attention from women or they are getting attention and having relationships. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:12 PM
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Being single doesn’t mean they aren’t having sex. You’re taking it literally. All it means is that those men don’t consider themselves as being in a relationship. Most of those men are still fucking or otherwise interacting with women. It also doesn’t account for gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:10 PM

Yeah, but the men that can do those things aren’t the ones struggling with women so why would they leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:09 PM

This is only for young men 18-30. It’s far from 63% if the male population. And that number is for who is actively single, those single men could still be going on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:07 PM

I mean you’re not being reasonable. Not all men are leaving. And personally, even if my man stayed we would still have to depend on mechanics and such. He’s a well-off, white collar, no manual labor kind of guy. Him being able to fix anything wasn’t even in my radar because we have the means to pay for things. You’re talking about blue collar workers. And your youth and inexperience is showing because you’re conflating men into this monolith. Not all men know how to change oil, fix smart phones …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:58 PM

You really think all men are running away? The men that have a problem with all women are usually the most maladjusted ones. They usually have crappy jobs, are crappy at their jobs or are constantly unhappy at their jobs. Men aren’t leaving in droves. And if they did, my mechanics a woman, my cars gonna be fine. My city already has massive potholes. And I fix my own phone. And if all that fails, my boyfriends extremely happy, he wouldn’t run off to be sad and lonely with a bunch of underachievin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:52 PM
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Yeah and those men that are patrons of only fans women still aren’t “getting free sex”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:41 PM
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If he wants something that I am totally against sexually, then yeah, it’s 100% okay for him to get it somewhere else. That other woman just better be able to give him everything else he needs too, because he no longer will be getting anything from me. Sex is important. If he has a need that I can’t meet because it makes me physically uncomfortable and uneasy, then he is well within his rights to seek out that need elsewhere. It’s also well within my rights to breakup with him and find someone I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:29 PM
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No, that’s cheating. I don’t do x sexual thing is a boundary. He can leave if he needs it so badly that he can’t live without it. We aren’t compatible. But why would someone that claims to care about me even want me to do something that’s going to hurt me and put me in a mentally bad space?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:21 PM
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Sure! I don’t expect my partners to support me financially because I live in America and most women work here: granted I did find a man that I was willing and able to pay for some things. But we are in the exact same field. In the same position with the only variance being time. My boyfriends hot as fuck. There are things I will never ever be okay with him doing because I don’t enjoy them no matter who is doing them to me. They are painful or make me feel mentally crappy. I don’t want to do them…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:16 PM
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What. That’s not what we are talking about at all. This is an act she tried with a previous partner and did not like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:10 PM
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I don’t know any adults that have broken up with someone via ghosting? Maybe over text? But I haven’t really heard about ghosting from an actual, defined, committed relationship ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:42 AM
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Assume the commas are or’s. But usually, being pleasant and charming in attractive men go hand-in-hand. Either way, the point is, they aren’t expecting sex just for existing, they are putting in effort for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:09 AM
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You lack consistency in your own statements. Do you have the upper hand or is she controlling most of your behaviors? Dude. Are you saying your girlfriend isn’t attractive? Do you honestly think she can’t get a nice, attention and sex starved American man to give her a good life once she gets tired of your shit. It doesn’t even sound like you actually like her honestly. Seems like you just picked a woman who would go along with your nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:08 AM
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No I’m not. Very few men get free sex without giving anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:00 AM
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You’re an attorney in South America. She can easily get a passport bro who will actually care about her well-being AND give her an excellent quality of life. Also remember, you found her in a homeless shelter: pretty sure if you’re asking her to do things she’s uncomfortable with, then “not in homeless shelter” is a pretty easy bar for her to clear. Especially while she currently has access to money or other things that will help her keep her looks up. If you like consistence then are you also w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:57 AM
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I don’t see why you want consistent behaviors modeled on relationships that ended. You’re always whining about how being single is the worst thing for you. If being single is so bad you should want to create a safe haven of a relationship for your partner. You shouldn’t want to engage in behaviors that could lead to the relationship ending and you, who is apparently so hard-pressed to find a relationship that you say you have to change every single little thing about yourself even to be somewhat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:40 AM
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Those men still do things to attract the women. They are pleasant, funny, charming, and usually very generous in one way or another. Mostly they put in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:27 AM
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But previously she didn’t let two partners have anal. So to be consistent she should no longer have anal, at least until the exact amount of time it took her to try anal before has passed. In my example, two partners don’t get it, the third does: that’s consistency. Or what if she had anal with that 3rd guy because his equipment was smaller? It would be inconsistent of her to do it with a guy with a larger dick. Or what if they waited five years to do anal, you’d have to wait five years also. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:25 AM
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It’s not how it works. Consistency doesn’t mean best. Someone could consistently get infections due to poor hygiene habits but be able to clean up at random intervals. Is the poor hygiene the “best they can do”? No. Poor hygiene is what they’ve become complacent with. You want a partner that will be complacent with abuse. What is consistency? She dated someone once who turned out to be a serial sex offender and would force himself on her under the threat of death, do you expect her to let you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:12 AM
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Free to me means no effort at all. He just wants to have sex that he enjoy because he wants it and has a penis. He wants women to ignore the thousands of years of social conditioning that tells them sex is precious and sacred in order to have them have sex with him without him having to put forth any effort or work. In a relationship “free sex” is all fine and dandy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:03 AM
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That’s not how this works. Take off the sociopath hat for a second and think about it just logically. Why, if you don’t want to do it, would you ask her to do it just because she did it in the past? Isn’t that a little crazy. If you used to be fat and eat pizza every day to the point of having a heart attack would you keep doing it just to be consistent? Would you ask her to do it if you knew she literally didn’t enjoy it and thought it was painful, degrading and horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:59 AM
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Would you ask your Ms. Moral to do an act she hates, one that feels humiliating and physically painful and terrible to her, just because you enjoy it? Would you want her to keep doing it for you? Would you enjoy it if she didn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:34 AM
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Are you talking about breaking up or just ghosting someone you went on two or three dates with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:33 PM
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It’s certainly not money, status or looks. She does seem to enjoy his company and even living the simple life his…I’m gonna say frugalness requires. To each their own, but the man has zero shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:01 AM
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Poor guy! Poor friend. That dick must be immaculate or something because I don’t understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:58 AM
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Nope. He’s also not cute. Not sure what my friend sees in him. But my boyfriend hated him and he tries to see the best in everyone. That guy is one of the few people he will complain about having to interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:53 AM
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I don’t think he was ashamed at all, I think he was banking on his gfs well off friends taking care of the meal. I don’t care about paying for my friend. I am not paying for a grown ass man I don’t know. My friends and I take turns paying. If we are with SOs, they tend to split or one of them pays. This was the first time we met this guy and our friend raved about him! Moved across the state to be with him. Turns out he’s a bum. The fucked up part is that his family has money too, he’s just weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:43 AM
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Sacrifice their social medias. And you didn’t answer the other question. If you date someone that previously posted slutty pics and she takes the pics down, can she still post and use the app for communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:39 AM
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If it was “a lot” of women do you think so many guys here would have to be searching so hard to find a woman who is willing to do it? It seems like it’s a huge issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:35 AM
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Then you’re asking for strain in your relationship. It’s completely unreasonable to demand someone that’s been engaging in a behavior like that to just change or else. If it’s a relationship deal breaker, just don’t date women that are engaging in the behavior that you find unacceptable. If she simply removed the pics but continued to use instagram would you be okay with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:26 AM
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But if you have such an issue with your partner posting slutty pics why are you dating a woman that posts slutty pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:22 AM
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You asked the other person why she wouldn’t make a small sacrifice for her husband. The sacrifice was giving up the social media, correct. If she doesn’t have slutty pics up when you meet her, what’s the issue with her having an instagram or something . If she has slutty pics up when you meet her, then I think the guy is duly informed about the kind of content his interest is posting. If he didn’t have enough of a problem with it to not date her, then it shouldn’t be a huge issue after they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:18 AM
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So then her having a social media isn’t an issue. But if you met your girl and she was posting slutty pictures, you knew what you were getting into. If she doesn’t have slutty pics up at all, I don’t see why the social media would be a problem. If you are friends with her on instagram seeing her posts, do you think she’s going to suddenly start posting slutty pictures once you start dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:14 AM
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Isn’t getting bored with dating and with women that same as “being unable to appreciate the new guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:20 PM
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Not really. He’s also been in failed relationships that got nowhere. He is has likely had at least one situation where he felt some betrayal or heartbreak.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:19 PM
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I don’t mind being asked. Early on my boyfriend would just sort of lean in and say something like “I’d really like to kiss you”. But we are also kinky so the consent thing is huge. Especially during sex, he has a thing for making me ask for what I want or he will tell me what he’s planning on doing. Honestly, I find it hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:17 PM
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Friends and I went out to dinner with our friend and the man she just got serious with. They picked the place and he ordered most of the dishes. At the end when the bill came he said “I don’t think I can afford this right now”. So my friend who works part-time paid for one of the four things they ordered and didn’t leave any tip. And the rest of us just split it. She was so embarrassed because he was the one that kept ordering food and drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:13 PM
1

Did a woman with red nails and lipstick hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:09 PM
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What’s the middle ground between being very defensive or very open about n count? If I tell you I’ve slept with three people is that too open?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:03 PM
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Do you think that everyone that uses social media is positing “slutty” pictures?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:01 PM
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Ask how the other men here if they expect the woman to manage the finances. That is not a traditional take on women and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:59 PM
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Go date a woman with uneven, plain nails and tell me you don’t think her hands look better when manicured.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:52 PM
1

…how do you think the red gets a lighter shade? They don’t just make it less red. They add other colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:49 PM
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So is light red. Most shades and tints involve other colors. Most red pigments are either blue or yellow based.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:46 PM
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Honestly, you have to be rich rich to even buy a real Birkin. You have to spend like 20-50k at Hermes before they even invite you to buy one. It’s also the difference between having wealth and having money. Money screams and wealth whispers. It’s mostly new money rushing out to want to buy a Birkin. This is actually a point of discussion my bf and I have sometimes. His family is wealthy, not Uber wealthy but still far from new new money. They understand the rules and such. My bf is kinda helping…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:45 PM
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But you like pink so you already know you don’t dislike all reds. Pink is just a shade of red.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:43 PM
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Did you go look yo the shades? Wait…you don’t know what burgundy is? For lipsticks, rosy red is almost always pink.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:41 PM
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No no, you’re not answering my question. Go look up shades of red, is it all of them? Do you like burgundy? Dark red? Light red? Rosy reds? Saying you don’t like red is very general when red is a ton of different shades. I met a guy that swore he didn’t like red lipstick because it was too bright and never looked good, guess what color he liked in me best, brick red. Red is a hard color for lips, if you don’t do it right it looks awful. When guys say they don’t like red, I think they actually me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:39 PM
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Which shades of red?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:34 PM
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Ohh sorry I misread! I thought you said you didn’t want a woman that wore makeup but also wanted her to be ultra feminine. The red nails and lipstick thing is weird. Is it any shade of red? Burgundy? Or just fire engine red that you don’t like? Pink is technically a tint of red.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:31 PM
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I think it’s delusional in the west to want a feminine woman who dresses well and doesn’t wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:28 PM
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I think until there is a way to transfer pregnancies then women should be able to chosen whether or not they give birth. Who is going to take care of all these orphans? Lack of abortions won’t make women be mothers if they don’t want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:27 PM
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Good replicas are generally cheap and high quality, that’s the gag. I have a fake very high end bag, limited edition, I get compliments on it in the store. It cost $70 bucks, the actual lower priced “dupe” for the bag , made by a popular designer costs three times as much and is half the quality. If you know how to shops your replicas then they can usually be the better choice. If I’m buying the alternative then I’m already not buying it for the name, I’m buying it for the look. I’d rather have …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:20 PM
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You realize you can be attracted to someone else but not act on it right? If the only way for you to be loyal is to sequester yourself with family, then you’re not loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:15 PM
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Are you middle eastern by chance? I think I saw earlier that you were first gen. And yes, you may have mommy issues. Your relationship and view of your mother is coloring your expectations of your future spouse to an unhealthy degree. Wanting someone to be exactly like your mother is a bit unhealthy. Especially considering you’re a first gen American, whose mother was probably raised in a different culture. You seem paranoid and controlling. Not wanting to go to the gym because you’re horny and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:11 PM
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My guy you are not as mentally healthy as you think and definitely have some trauma and maybe some mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:06 PM
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It sounds like you should be the one staying home and never leaving. To me, this sounds like you know you’re a high risk to cheat so you assume the same about any partner you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:05 PM
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I’m gonna tell you now, unless the women you know are actually rich, if they are buying expensive van cleef, bags, etc, it’s usually fake. Now, granted they are good fakes. But you can’t even walk into Hermes and buy a Birkin or a Kelly bag off the street. You have to be invited to buy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:57 PM
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What’s it about for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:58 PM
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The best looking person around you may not be the best match for you. So in the end the looks are just part of it. You’re going to find the woman that’s right for you to be absolutely beautiful and you wouldn’t give her up for any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:56 PM
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I don’t really believe in SMV. It doesn’t matter for long term relationships unless you only value looks, in which case, logically you can the upset if your hot gf treats you poorly because you don’t care about anything outside of what she looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:43 PM
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I don’t really believe in SMV. It doesn’t matter for long term relationships unless you only value looks, in which case, logically you can the upset if your hot gf treats you poorly because you don’t care about anything outside of what she looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:40 PM
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Then hypergamy is an exception and not the rule. It has to be if MOST people don’t do it. Also, men do not date down. If all a man cares about is looks, no matter what, he’s not going to go commit to a woman he’s not attracted to. Generally, well-balanced man is going to care about more than looks. Your last gf was hot but a bitch that made you miserable: you getting a woman that’s attractive and not a bitch is not dating down. Because obviously the looks weren’t all that mattered. You’re not da…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:23 PM
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Dating the same as you can’t be dating up. And men don’t value height or anything like that in women. It’s not dating up because it’s an even and equal exchange. That rich man’s not dating a woman he doesn’t find attractive…he doesn’t care about her money so we can’t compare the two. Hypergamy is bullshit. Very few women actually ONLY date within those parameters of richer, taller ect. Most women are dating average guys that make about the same as them. Most men are dating average women that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:18 PM
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Those are not comparative statements. One does not disprove the other. I could easily say “dating someone that makes a little more than you is not dating up” it doesn’t have to be gendered. It’s also true. If you meet and date a woman making 10k more than you it’s likely not going to be a big deal, you guys basically make that same. And it won’t matter unless you get to super low income levels. And it ceases to matter more when you get to high incomes 200 vs 210 a year. It’s the same amount. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:14 PM
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How? It’s all actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:06 PM
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But women don’t, for the most part actually date up. Dating a man that makes a little more money than you is not dating up. Do women in places where women can’t work date up? Do women in poverty stricken areas date up if the majority of the men there are also poor? The ones that truly date out of their socioeconomic spheres are rare. If men don’t value money, success and the like in women, then there’s no way for men to date “up” because he wouldn’t see those things as a positive. Hypergamy by d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:04 PM
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There’s three reasons why I think hypergamy is bullshit: 1) most people date within their social class. A woman making 20K and a man making 30k are in the same damn social sphere. She’s not dating up. She dating within her league. 2) men claim not to care about money or status in women. So, because what men value is fertility and beauty so long as he’s getting a woman with things he values, he’s also “dating up”. If men cared about women’s money it would be different, but as they don’t care, say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:49 PM
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There aren’t exceptions to the rule. hypergamy is just bullshit and not a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:35 PM
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My guy. I have great grades, great credentials and work in a highly competitive field. No one is giving me a six figure job in my industry just because I’m cute. If anything they would give someone a job based on who their parents are. But that also doesn’t really apply to me here. But it does apply to my boss, whose fathers name is on the building.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:18 PM
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Forcing women to carry and give broth to children they don’t want to carry and give birth to is wrong. So in states where abortion is severely limited or illegal i think men should be required to pay for the amount of time the woman carried that child if then don’t intend on raising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:06 AM
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I actually understand that most people had to work hard. No one in my industry cares about my vagina in a way that is positive. In fact, I often have to find myself working harder than my male colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:04 AM
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Lol yeah a woman with a job a partner and a loving social group is somehow a loser because….she’s pretty? This woman probably has some sort of imposter syndrome. Unless you work in a bar, no one is keeping her around just because she’s pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:30 PM
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So will women though. Most women don’t trauma dump everything onto their partner; that would make anyone run for the hills. Especially if it’s one of the type of men that thinks he has to be stoic. Dude, why would I share anything with you if it seems like you don’t care about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:09 PM
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Most women are reliant on being women? Lol! My guy. Most men here can’t even make friends or be social absent a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:08 PM
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Okay let’s say this is true…were her friends supposed to agree with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:06 PM
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Considering the world has existed without makeup…also look at strict middle eastern continues where they have to wear niqab.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:05 PM
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Chances are she is too. Normal people don’t dump every single thing onto their partner at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:04 PM
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Not really. Shit happens. Very few women are using abortion as their primary method of birth control. No one’s forcing men to be parents either, the government just wants people to pay for the kids that come into the world. You can provide money and never have to see the kid. Or abortions can be legal and you don’t even have to provide money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:27 PM
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Giving birth doesn’t mean you’re going to be a parent. All forcing women to give birth does is just that…force them to be pregnant and give birth, which men already don’t do. Those women will just put those babies up for adoption if they don’t want them. Men can and do opt out of parenthood every single day. If men don’t have to be pregnant and give birth why should women be forced to be pregnant and give birth? Wouldn’t that be the most egalitarian way to do things? Paying for a kid isn’t paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:12 PM
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Yeah because we have money. But he also doesn’t have to take the daily shots and medications needed for them to do egg extraction. It’s never egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:07 PM
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Im getting a surrogate most likely, but prior we will be getting some treatments once we decide to have some kids. Well, I will. Right now it’s likely I’ll be on bed rest because of a hard pregnancy with lots of complications. But we will see how stuff looks in like a year. But it most likely won’t matter because we can get a surrogate and still have a bio child’s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:02 PM
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We don’t because we have money. these rules only impact poor people. My boyfriend doesn’t have to give birth or be pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:41 PM
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I can have the baby and die or I can not have sex with my partner for the rest of our relationship. If I get pregnant despite double birth control you best believe my boyfriend is going to be the first to fly me somewhere else so that I’m not leaving him with a newborn and traumatizing grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:32 PM
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Then you need better friends. You should be able to talk to your friends about whatever. My guy friends know absolutely nothing personal about one another on a surface level, but they talk about stuff that difficult, get advice. And they aren’t judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:56 AM

This is a fallacy. Men keep saying they don’t value money or success too much in women. So a man marrying a woman with a job isn’t a negative or a positive to him on average. He doesn’t care about it. He’d be perfectly happy dating an uneducated woman with no job if she’s pretty. He would only be dating down if he cared about her money and dated someone with less. Men value beauty and youth. A man that gets a young and beautiful woman is dating up because that’s what he values. A man that dates …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:56 PM
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Is everyone supposed to love the same things? If all your friends wanted to cook for everyone all the time and not simply enjoy being cooked for you’d be annoyed. If your partner was constantly making meals to try to one up you and your cooking without being grateful you’d be annoyed. The poster you were replying to made no comments about being ungrateful. I hate cleaning. While we both have cleaning service day our respective apartments, my bf lives to clean and will always make sure the kitche…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:52 PM
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A friend that was interrupting a valid and wanted flirtation would simply be told that it was okay for her to leave and she would go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:27 PM
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So she did fuck her brother? Because that should be the more interesting headline than attractive, powerful woman has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:25 PM
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I’m confused? Her brother was her husband but wasn’t a chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:23 PM

I’m being facetious. The first point is true though. Slut shaming men would create way more fairness in the SMV than slut shaming women. If men refuse sex, women have fewer options for causal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:19 PM
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Wasn’t one of them her brother though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:18 PM
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Man a good pedicure is like 45 bucks for regular. Which means you gotta get it done every week. Unless you get no chip with us like 60 every two weeks (for a fill) or less they look sill. So long as then feet are moisturized and clean let her be bare toed unless you’re paying for them regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:17 PM
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I’ve had guys in the past ask me what cup size I was. I would ask them what they though, and they’d say a double d. I’m an I cup. Men have no idea what cup sizes actually look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:13 PM
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BMI requires a lot a variables. At 5’6 and a 157-160 pounds . I have i/JJ cup breast and it’s estimated that total breast tissue is adding around 12-15 pounds if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:08 PM

I actually enjoy cooking. My boyfriend loves that I cook for him. He would definitely say something like “who wants to cook all the time”? He doesn’t get it because he doesn’t enjoy it as much as I do. To him, he can cook two or three things well, but it’s not fun, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:59 PM

A logical move would be to say that average women don’t deserve casual sex. If average women didn’t get attention from (inexplicably) hotter men, wouldn’t they see average men as good options? Solutions? Force men to ONLY seek casual sex from women within their league. Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:55 PM

I disagree , but only if men keep asserting that sex is different for them. If men persist that they can have meaningless sex then I think it is damaging for them to have it. Imagine this: a man has sex regularly, randomly and often. So long as it’s true that he can have sex and feel nothing absolutely nothing, then it makes sex meaningless to him. You can’t tell me that someone can have sex with person after person, feel nothing, while still claiming that sex will somehow be sacred between them…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:29 PM
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You can be poly if that’s your thing. But then I’m assuming you’re not worrying about your partner cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:33 PM
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I dunno. I think the emotional cheating thing is an excuse women say to themselves when they are stuck in a situation and trying to make the best of it. Because he’s either spending money and time on the other woman to make her feel special enough to sleep with him. Or she’s making him feel special by making it seem like she likes him for more than what he provides. Either way, it’s fucked up. I don’t think a guy with options, choosing to be monogamous isn’t going to fuck someone else. And hypot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:56 PM
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What are the thinking they can get away with? No one can convince me that you genuinely love you partner if you’re willing to sleep with someone else just because you feel like it doesn’t matter. But watch her cheat back and it becomes a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:46 PM
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Isn’t that what all cheating comes down to? Opportunity? If a man’s not happy he’s gonna take the opportunity, if he satisfied and feels like his partner is enough, he wont. It’s the same with women. She’s not happy and someone is treating her better, then she has the opportunity to possibly be in a more fulfilling relationship, even if it’s not as serious as the one she has now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:42 PM
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People that are happy with their situations and care and respect their partners don’t cheat. Even back in the 1950s when it was common to marry the first person to give you time, those people cheated because of fomo. They wanted the experiences they didn’t get. People that cheat usually feel like if they don’t, they’ll miss out on something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:12 PM
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I thought the main point was that the young women weren’t easily influenced and thus there was little risk from them dating the older men? But they are easily influenced enough by women shaming them (which is never how the ridicule is phrased, usually always pointed toward the guy) about dating the men they want to date can you provide an example of how these women are being shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:22 PM
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Your “who do you think chases” them off comment shows a very traditionalist view. My family has southern roots and lots of farm experience and a lack of men for a while: we did shit ourselves and didn’t wait for a man to come do it. Hell no, if it’s an armed intruder my man better come with us outside of the house while we get safe. If he’s armed and there’s more than one gun then two shots are better than one. Its way more logical to not go into that situation alone. There’s a middle ground bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:19 PM

So who are they shaming? The old men or the young women? Wouldn’t young women still pursuing them negate the shaming? Nah, considering a arbitrary number a signifier of adulthood is one thing. But it’s different when those guys actively seek out fresh 18 year olds..if you couldn’t date her legally two years ago and you’re more than 5 years olds than her maybe it’s a little weird. Especially since it’s rarely good men that are going after these young women. It’s always men that thing “women his a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:01 PM
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I feel like you’re purposefully ignoring an important part. Very few women are going to be attracted to an ultra violent man who is actually hurting people for fun. Men can’t protect women from much aside from other men, and as technology advances even that is going to be unneeded, because a penis doesn’t make one more or less bullet proof. Drug dealer is definitely because of culture, if violence and deceit didn’t provide money it wouldn’t be valuable. Taller and bigger than 5’3 is not necessar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:50 PM

But does that sentiment work? And if so why does it work? Is the only reason you’re (general you) not going for young women is because they are all listening to 40 something women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:43 PM
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Diabetes is lifelong. Separating for a bit so she can be a good caretaker (possibly) or take care of herself isn’t cruel. He’s a grown ass man who she cared for likely for more than six years and who didn’t take his own health seriously, instead foisting the worry about it on her. It’s much different than a spouse leaving another after a cancer diagnosis. This is like a spouse leaving another after one got diagnosed by with lung cancer and now has watched the sick partner continue to smoke a pac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:37 PM

“I think it’s gross so it’s not okay to me” is very different than “I it’s legal so have at it”. And as I said earlier, if young women really don’t care, you think some old people are gonna stop them? The complaining shouldn’t matter if young women really have that preference… Two adults right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:33 PM
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The drug dealer thing is because of culture and exposure though. for the most part, those men are, by comparison to others in their neighborhoods, wealthy, well connected and able to offer things that would be previously unattainable. It’s not so much the violence as it is the means of making money. That’s why if so much rarer for you to see rich people going to bad neighborhoods and grabbing men or women from there. I do think it happens, but it’s not common. Most people would be horrified if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:19 PM
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Speak to people like what? I think, we need more context. If he hasn’t been taking care of himself enough to where his health declined to take his vision AND his wife was his main date taker, it seems like there’s more here. Even the comment he made about his doctors seem to suggest that a lot of his symptoms may be controllable if they were properly monitored. If he can’t give himself insulin how is he checking his blood sugar? He obviously doesn’t have an insulin pump. Is his wife supposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:59 PM
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He edited out a comment about not doing his own insulin because he’s afraid of needles or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:50 PM

The “it’s legal so it’s okay” is a very slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:42 PM
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Sure are some examples. But wouldn’t those fall under the exceptions category? What fraction of people actually have that much power/influence? What people will do for a taste of fame is really insane sometimes. Do you think Joe from accounting would get the same treatment as Chris Brown?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:40 PM

If you can only be a good parent by being married to your partner then you shouldn’t be a parent. Above all, once there are kids in the mix you need to be ready to just parent under a variety of circumstances. Got divorced? Move in nearby where your kids live so you can see them every single day and they have access to visit you? Go to their house to get them ready for school, pick them up, have them stay with you half the time, spend time with them just like you would if you were still married …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:37 PM

Does she want to dance at a club? What’s the context? Or does she want to teach pole dancing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:30 PM
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I mean what if one man got 100 blow jobs from one person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:38 PM
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Would it be different if they weren’t beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:21 PM
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I mean they will be more worthy than someone that cheats and lies to me. I don’t have time for that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:18 PM
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You’re speaking from a place of paranoid, fomo and general fear. The anxiety of dating can be stressful, but when you meet a partner that you like it’s well worth it. Nothing can guarantee fidelity from either side. However, if you respect your partner enough what you’re worried about won’t be as big of a hinderance. If you’re dating someone, and you find yourself thinking that there is someone better, you’re probably not happy and you talk to your partner about it. If there’s something identifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:33 PM
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Men that have sex don’t care about “getting sex more often” at a certain point. The desire for companionship generally begins to outweigh the desire for random sex. If my boyfriend cheated I would leave. He’s hot, well-off, charming. And if he’s not faithful and truthful then he’s not worthy of my time or attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:21 PM
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Hot tub is open! Can’t wait to soak in it today!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:30 PM
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So you think his wife knew? Or is it common knowledge that she knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:55 PM
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Did she know he was a murderous sociopath? Or did he hide it from her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:52 PM
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…they are a sugar baby. There is no need to vet, each party knows what they signed up for. She signed up for gold. The man knows this. That’s why he’s paying her to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:48 PM
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So you’ve seen an adult hurt another adult and then had a sane woman want to be with him? Like…outside of teenagers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:47 PM
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Do you think she finds him hot when he’s hitting her? Violence is definitely aggressive. Do you think she finds him hot when she feels like he’s about to hurt her? Those guys arent getting women by being violent toward them. Those guys are acting assertive and then showing their aggression later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:35 PM
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There 100% a difference between being aggressive and assertive. Being assertive can be done with the persistence of aggression. Aggression necessitates some sort of discomfort also, assertiveness doesn’t. A hot aggressive man is still scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:46 PM
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If he’s in the us your uncle doesn’t have multiple wives. He has one. You can’t legally marry more than own person in the United States. There would be no legal benefit to them submitting to him. This story reads as fanfic. Your uncle is so well off he doesn’t have help? They are so rich but need wives to cook and clean? Not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:11 PM
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Is it stopping those young women from dating the old men they want to date? In the end, if people want to date it’s not going to stop them. If these two adults are interested in one another they will date. And women do complain about abusive relationships…and other toxic relationships. No one’s calling women jealous of the woman getting abused because obviously that’s crazy. Men don’t see the age gap relationships as problematic because they think it’s only positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:23 PM
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Does it matter? If younger women really want to date older men then it wouldn’t change anything if some older women complained.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:20 PM

Don’t go into it with that mindset. It’s a date, don’t ask her why she matched with you or who else she’s going out with. Just be genuine, take the time to get to know her and just enjoy the time meeting someone new.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:19 PM

What if she’s attracted to you? You gonna shoot yourself in the foot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:56 PM

Is there something wrong with you that would make someone giving you a chance an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:42 PM
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That’s not usually what happens. Men are very rarely “single dads” in the way women are “single moms”. And wouldn’t allowing paper abortions create more literal single moms, versus moms who have to raise a kid alone because the dad isn’t helping when he is able to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:41 PM

Person: “I don’t empathize with single mothers” Same person: “I don’t agree with abortion because paper abortions aren’t an option for men”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:38 PM
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…but okay wouldn’t paper abortions create more single mothers? And this time single mothers with fewer financial options for taking care of their children. Which creates worse living situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:36 PM
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How is she fucked in the head when she was literally sold to someone under certain expectations and conditions and expects him to uphold those conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:09 PM
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But as someone that did not always have access to luxuries I understand how exhausting some things can be. And this is from someone who loves cooking. The cleanup sucks . And I only do it for two people usually, imagine doing it for another adult, some crying kids, while also keeping the kids clean and clothed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:59 PM
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I mean I have a maid so, sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:57 PM
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Do you have kids? Cooking in bulk means repeat, old meals by the end of the week. Food that’s been sitting, even frozen looses quality. I’m sure you’re fine eating the same three things for breakfast lunch and dinner for five days straight, but that’s how you get a partner that thinks “things got boring and complacent”. Keeping things clean with kids around is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:46 PM
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I think one thing men here sometimes don’t consider is that other men, neurotypical men especially, do not think the same way they do. There are a ton of considerations that, to a ND, person wouldn’t find logical. Same goes for anti-social guys: those guys that want the company but want it in ways they value and see every thing else a waste of time. Coming here validates them because the majority of the men here fall into one of the two above categories if not both. Did you really want a woman e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:00 PM
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This is a damn lie. Neurodivergent/anti-social guys may hate phones and texting, but the guy with girls in his DMs, texts and calling him who is popular is going to like his phone. He can also call or FaceTime her. I’ve literally never heard a hot guy say he hated his phone. He may want to get out and meet a woman in person but he’s not the kind guy that has to struggle to get a woman to agree to meet him. So the anxiety average guys have with phones isn’t there. Plus you’re dismissing the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:31 PM
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But he can also talk to a woman he already knows and it’s in his phone trying to get his attention. Who is also hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:26 PM

You’re a narcissistic, spoiled testtube baby who drinks breast milk and breast feeds as an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:13 PM

I don’t understand why it would ever be slow. He has women cued up, he a ten. There’s literally no reason for him to go that low. Even just for something physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:11 PM

If this was a common problem then most his wouldn’t be on this sub. And what functioning adult uses the term “crush”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:10 PM

It’s just as much a hobby as COD and Mountain Dew.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:08 PM
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If they are worried about real sex being “nasty and sticky” they shouldn’t be having or thinking about having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:26 PM
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Imma need you to read the law on this before you get all…weirdly excited.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:25 PM
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I feel like the issue is people aren’t retiring when they should. They stay in the workforce entirely too long. And we shouldn’t want teens working because it lowers wages while creating fewer full time positions. Unless they absolute have to work (which minors should never HAVE to work in America) those jobs should be done by adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:19 PM

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:46 AM

Yes. They would object. Because most of us actually do have empathy so we are horrified by the idea of other women being systematically raped and impregnated and tortured.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:43 AM

This sounds so weird, no one talks like this. Boxing would be cool enough on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:36 AM

Trained who, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:35 AM

…he’s a kid. Maybe he should date other 18 year olds? There is literally no way all those girls are looking for an “alpha provider”. Buy her some followers and relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:35 AM
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If they were doing the duties before without contributing to the household, if they start paying do they still have to do them? Or would the other partner, who now has to contribute less financially, do them instead? And while I like cooking, it’s definitely not a “minimal effort” activity. Unless you’re not really picky about what you eat and taste of the meal. I made roasted lamb chops today. Just for the meat included a lot of prep to make a marinade. Then made sides which all required some p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:31 AM
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No, I’m not saying that all raising kids is parenting. I am saying that if a stranger “raising” kids is a job worthy of pay then a stay at home parent, who is properly raising their kids, should also be entitled to some pay. But. Sure, we dont want anymore taxes. I get it, still a job a sahs does can be hard, especially when multiple kids get into the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:23 AM
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But will the full time parent then start working less and contributing more to the domestic duties! Otherwise it’s no longer even. They are still taking care of the kids full-time, cooking, cleaning, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:43 AM
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You were countering my statement that said being a parent and raising children are synonymous, and to a point they are. Being a parent has to include raising children. Earlier you stated that “you didn’t say raising kids wasn’t a job” but instead that you said “parenting wasn’t a job”. Parenting includes raising kids: it’s definitely a job. Your issue is more with having someone else pay to do it. Head of houses already get tax breaks. They can claim their non-working spouse as a dependent. We a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:41 AM
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Are you saying parents don’t raise their children? Im not talking about the legal requirements to being a child’s legal guardian…that’s a different convo. And yeah, actually day cares do get tax credits specially for being child care and/or educational facilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:33 AM
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Being a parent and raising children is sort of synonymous, no? Or at least it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:28 AM
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You saying that raising a kid is not a job is incorrect. It in fact, is a job, it’s a booming and popular industry. So much so that it literally requires you to get licensed if you want to care for other people’s kids. It’s definitely a job to raise kids. Besides, if the government wants people to have kids in order to create a steady supply of laborers, they should definitely compensate people more for having them. Maybe at least some free healthcare and guaranteed paid parental leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:22 AM
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But it’s definitely a job. The task is still one that, in the case of childcare, requires licensure, regulations and pay. It’s definitely a job and it can be hard. Especially if your partner feels like helping you more than sparingly isn’t their role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:11 AM
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How can they be shared/split when one person isn’t working?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:05 AM
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Any spouse is entitled to half of all assets if it’s marital property. Not working more speaks to whether or not you have to pay after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:05 AM
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Honestly yes…it would teach them responsibility instead of making those same kids go work when they are teens…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:04 AM
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What about Nannys and day cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:01 AM
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How can it be compromised on though! There is no way to come to a mutual decision in a situation where one partner wants to abort. If we needed the fathers permission then it’s totally up to the man whether or not an abortion can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:37 PM
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So why is the heiress different? People with money will spend money. Most average men don’t take on the “lions share” of expenses today because they can’t. At least not in the us. My circles a but different because they actually have money. I don’t really know any couple where one party isn’t way wealthier than the other that doesn’t split to some degree. The more average their incomes the more average the split .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:14 PM
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Oh the first part! Don’t know why I thought you were being facetious. No. He didn’t have any money in grad school and he wasn’t working because he was focusing on grad school. In the summer he when he got a job making money he’d pay half. But this was exclusive to grad school friends who did the same schooling and understood the struggle. So the rich men who have money from their rich parents are magically different? And untrue. Most men don’t have money to spend like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:10 PM
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Equitable and equal are not the same thing. We are definitely equitable in that we are contributing what we have found to be fair (well him, because I would happily pay more) him by providing free housing, me by paying for food, housing essentials and paying for the domestic services he’d usually pay for on his own. Plus all the other stuff that I generally pay. As a bonus, I get to pay down my loans and remove a debt that would otherwise stress him out. Tbh, I planned on dying with those loans …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:19 PM
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I guess he and I see it a bit differently. But 2000 a month is hardly not contributing. Considering the lifestyle we live, yeah it’s cheaper than the 5000 total I’d spend on my own (and waste since I’m hardly at my place these days). He just thought it was a smarter idea than having us live separately. I’m definitely contributing equitably here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:40 PM

Exactly. Men with money don’t really care about spending their money; they spend it anyway, usually on friends or themselves. They know how to spot someone using them just for their money.c too. This OP seems to be talking about an extremely one sided relationship here. And also might have some other external issues with money that may be coloring their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:19 PM
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I said this earlier: but generous partners dont care. I spend my money on my friends and my boyfriend, my boyfriend spends his money on his friends and me. We want to do things with them and if they don’t have the money then we still Want to share that experience with them. That means if we can afford it we are paying for them to do it. My family had a rule that you don’t let people borrow money unless you’re okay never getting it back- it’s kind of like that. Everyone can’t be equally fortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:26 PM
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No the money I’m paying towards my loans is not money going into the relationship, just the things I’m putting into the actual relationship. I never said it was. This is definitely a perk for me, 100 percent. We are fortunate because both our families are independently financially stable, mine a bit more recently than his, but enough so that they can contribute similar to how his parents would. Our issues won’t be the same as the average couples: my parents will happily give us a down payment fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:19 PM
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Most people aren’t fortunate. Her guys counterparts who paid for their partners things also have rich parents. One is gay, he doesn’t expect his partner to work either. The gender doesn’t really matter here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:00 PM
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Yes there is, 80% of my funds are going to loans at his request. I’m paying for food, domestic items, cleaning service, my personal items. The savings I’ll put away would make it very limited for me to find an apartment in this city last minute. And yes, moving in with someone is a risk. I’ll be on the lease and everything, so legally safe, but I’m the type that’s very reluctant to have to depend on someone else. He’s not the type to change once he has what he wants, but I’m naturally a bit worr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:04 AM
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I suppose there’s something weird about you considering it to be his debt. Or our debt. It’s not. If we break up, I’m the one completely at risk here: no funds, no home. We aren’t breaking up, so sure, less risk, but it’s still a scary thought. One that I think men here tend to dismiss. And it rankles, just a bit, to have the fact that I’m perfectly capable of making money and wiling to spend it on him, kind of ignored. You can get a woman with no debt all you want, it’s not going to help you if…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:47 AM
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I’ma avoiding about 3K a month in rent alone. Big city prices….Which again, his idea. I never expected him to help at all with my loans. I didn’t even want to consider living with him until we are engaged. However, he made some good points. Wants me to be financial even with him since he got the majority of his schooling paid for with scholarships and money from his parents. I don’t think this is a “women won’t accept anything less thing”. People that want to be generous with their money are gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:09 AM
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You’d think that. But it makes a difference, especially if you’re a man that’s gotten quality women before. Money is a non-issue, but the more you have the more expectations are put on you when you bring someone into the fold, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:24 AM
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No shit. That’s an entirely different conversation though. For this current topic, in the US, a fast food-worker, who is an adult, living solely off crappy food with minimal health care is not going to look their best. A woman is not going to be able to take care of herself to the level where men will look if she’s making 15 an hour working 25 hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:28 AM
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I have to get deep tooth cleanings four times a year and it’s about 100 a session with my insurance. Once a year I have to get some intense cleaning done and it’s about 650+. In the us access to healthcare definitely is an indicator of some level of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:11 AM
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That’s also not him dating the McDonald’s cashier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:01 AM
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I disagree. Dropping 50k at once is much different than a $200 increase in bills and having your gf move in. Like I said, I appreciate the gesture and it’s super generous of him- he insisted on this arrangement, I asked initially to just pay half and use the money I saved by living with him to make extra payments. He didn’t think that plan made financial sense. So, I get it. He wants me at a certain place so he’s willing to make some arrangements to get me there at a speed he deems acceptable. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:18 AM
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Can you show me where I said he wasn’t helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:51 PM
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Most of my professional school friends who dated guys that started professional school after them either let the guy live with them during the summer or during the school year if they were in the same city. The very wealthy friends were like three people, but I know one of them through my partner. Two of them are male, one is a woman who literally paid for her artist boyfriend to live for years until he got his first galley commission. But she has wealth, not just a good job. So the money was no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:41 PM
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This. The men hep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:35 PM
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But they also pay it back. I don’t know anyone, outside of some very wealthy friends who actually paid off their partners debt. Most do a similar arrangement to what my boyfriend and I have: setting a ways to alleviate the one with the burdensome debt. Usually it requires compromise and living within a certain means. Also, if it’s professional school debt, that’s not factored in when you’re buying houses. Doctors, attorneys and other professional degree holders can get special loans because the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:40 PM
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I’m not confused. You don’t need to wait for marriage to minimize damage. The high rates of divorce are regularly discussed as nauseam. Marriage is not the rock it once was. Actual feelings however, are. Marriage has never been a binding agreement for fidelity or happiness, people would still cheat and stay together, hating one another, because they had to. You’ll be much more successful learning about your partner, figuring out their wants, needs, desires- all of that. A man that sees marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:42 PM
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So she has to work to pay bills AND do all the childcare? What do you consider high income? Is she doing the housework too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:19 PM
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No. I’m saying if you think premarital sex is damaging don’t have premarital sex. My view on sex is much different than the average person. Marriage isn’t permanent, it doesn’t guarantee fidelity. Nothing does. What can mitigate that risk is by getting to know your partner for a long time. If I meet a young woman that’s dating an older man, my advice is to wait to have sex with him. Especially if she’s in her late teen she years 18/19. Wait. Wait for comfort. Wait for him to prove that he is wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:13 PM
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So don’t have premarital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:54 PM
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The same goes for men honestly. If that man is wanting the provider role but has six figures of debt with a five figure job, then they needs to be known. Partners, in general, if they are planning for long term should know one another’s debts. I have tons of debt from grad school, but I also have a great job. My bf wants to make sure I pay it off aggressively to get ahead of the interest. He’s allowing me to move in with him and not pay rent or bills with the stipulation that most of my income g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:53 PM
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If people truly thought women were blameless angels this thread and this subreddit wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:45 PM
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I do. In my career I am spearheading idea side legal resources for men to level the playing field in family court. To give them the same resources that were implemented for women when they had no funds. My friend group is filled with everyone from therapist to neurologist. While we tend to be overly educated the mix lends itself to being open to conversation on differing views. Mental health is a huge one that’s ignored, weirdly, on both sides. Extremist men dismiss women with mental health as d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:38 PM
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I’m not discounting your experiences: mine are simply extremely different. I spend more time talking to my guy friends about why they are putting too hard of expectations on themselves versus telling them to do more. And the men in my circle are relatively powerful compared to the average guy: their actions have some influence. Im also nearly ten years older thus interacting with a slightly different demographic. This is where I would suggest looking elsewhere. If you go digging in the same plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:55 PM
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I kind of disagree there. Women may be allowed to speak more but their concerns are almost equally as dismissed by the opposite sex. For instance: the complaint that men must have some financial value even to date a “broke” woman. Yet, when women try to show how they are doing more, putting in more effort to work and be financially equal, the same men harp on the fact that they didn’t care about a woman’s money in the first place. The issues are still, at a base level, wrapped up in men’s wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:23 PM
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But a lot of people do the same. This is not a woman-only issue. Most people are terrible at debating. Most people do not know how to keep emotion out of it. And on the internet, on Reddit especially, you get the worst of those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:15 PM
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People here constantly say shitty things about women that gets equally tiresome. Perhaps all this frustration is coming from existing in a space where the goal isn’t really to truly debate-despite what the title of the sub is. Everyday we get the same issues brought up: n-count, SMV, looks and height. And it’s usually brought up by people that don’t have any experience in the dating realm. There are kids in high school on this thread “learning” more about women here than they are in the real wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:41 AM
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No. Not really. Demi is very different than what you’re suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:33 AM
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Exactly why if you want a PhD you get into the room with the Phd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:20 AM
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That’s not how that happens. Men with PhDs don’t announce themselves in Wendy’s. They aren’t dating the cashier they can’t take to department parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:55 AM
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To the right man it matters. Unlike men here, the average woman is just not looking for ANY average man. She wants a man that shares her interest at least a little bit. The average woman doesn’t have a PhD. The average woman doesn’t even have a masters. The women that are pursuing advanced degrees aren’t doing it necessarily to attract attention. Tangentially, it will get them in the room with men that have similar credentials though. But they aren’t doing it just to get those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:34 PM

If you expect to be able to raise a family and have an adult dependent on the average salary in the US you are setting yourself and your family up for failure. Both parties have to work now. There’s no reason for men to date a woman that makes literally a third of what they do unless that man is well -off. And if he’s well off, then he’s going to hire a nanny, a maid and maybe even a cook. The average couple making 30 and 50k cannot afford to live off of one salary. But if they get divorced, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:35 PM
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I’ll let him know lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:30 PM

I support men divorcing for any reason at all too. But back in the day that meant creating a homeless woman and homes less children if the dad don’t want anything to do with them. Don’t want have to pay in a divorce in modern times? Don’t marry a woman that makes half your salary. Don’t make her stay home to raise kids. Get a maid. Get a nanny. Have a wife not an employee. Just a she should have a husband not an atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:26 PM
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He did!! That’s about exactly what he lost. He has muscle mass I guess, but they aren’t like body builder muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:22 PM
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The first so fat is based in self-esteem and body image issues. His body is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:19 PM
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The first so fat is based in self-esteem and body image issues. His body is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:19 PM
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There not “so fat” fat people cant get into good shape in four months. This guy is average, his body is fine. But it’s definitely a good foundation for if he wants to get toned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:06 PM

Fake social pressure. What’s a woman gonna do if her husband cheats back in the day? She can’t work. Can’t afford an attorney on her own for a divorce? Can’t go anywhere but home after the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:02 PM
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He’s not “so fat” that’s literally an average body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:44 PM
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Yes, I read what you wrote. I don’t think most men are being that nuanced about it. If the men were in anti-choice states getting women pregnant who didn’t plan on it, there would probably be a rise in adoptions. The mindset would be different. I also think that there needs to be resources for men to help them get custody of their children. We can create a fair playing field; this woman is abusive? She shouldn’t have those kids if she’s not the best environment for them. The dad should. What’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:44 PM
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I dunno. My boyfriend did macros and focused on protein and diet as well as his workouts when he was losing weight. Went from like 289 of mostly fat to being lean muscle. He did this in college when he was in his 20s. But he still works-out regularly now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:18 PM
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I still don’t think that the men pushing for financial abortions really want equality though. If they did, anti-choice states would be an excellent option. It would probably lead to them getting exactly what they want more often: financial freedom from the child, because if the mother didn’t want it either then she would also waive her rights in order to put the child up for adoption. Personally I don’t believe in “financial abortions” in this day. There’s too much tech. That kid will be in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:11 PM
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I think this is going to depend on how much sex you’ve had. And if you can have sex outside of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:50 PM
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When I was dating many guys told me I was boring or unoriginal by asking them about their day. When I asked them what they wanted to talk about they had no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:49 PM
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What else would want to be avoided by a financial abortion? If he didn’t want to take care of a child or have responsibilities, he could still pay for the child and never see it .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:45 PM
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From a woman: I’d say this is an average body. Not too soft! Unless a guy has a really good or really terrible body I don’t think I’d care all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:41 PM
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Most of them would be excited the they don’t have to stress out about feeding a family on their own. Plus they get to live past 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:39 PM
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…that is not several…. She had two different marriages. Two different kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:23 PM
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What do you mean surgically enhance? I’m assuming her vagina is still there, so and PIV action is the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:16 AM
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Don’t worry about that. You can only control what you can control. Worst case scenario, take prereqs for a nursing program, get good grades, transfer. You’ll get into the cc if you apply just to the general program, I bet you’ll get in even applying to the nursing program with your grades as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:26 AM
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Just apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:25 AM
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That man’s eyes are mesmerizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:24 AM
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So passport bros just go somewhere they can be chad. While also probably getting a little less from the women because the expectations are different. Seems like it’s just creating the same problem elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:54 AM
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This comment took me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:50 AM
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This would mean that sex isn’t really a need on any level. You just need to think you had sex. Would these people be perpetual virgins if they went this route?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:49 AM
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What are you asking? If you can point blank tell a woman in this day and age what you have to offer and expect her to take your word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:33 AM
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Honestly, this. There’s this idea that being a stay at home mom is a luxury. And in a way it is. But at the same time it’s also not luxurious at all. You’re working. You’re running after kids and cleaning. Some people tout the idea of being able to “keep her at home” as this mark of pride. When if you looked in at their lives, they are on tight budgets, tight schedules and usually under a lot of stress. Sometimes neither party is able to fully understand the stress the other is under. Man: why i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:33 AM
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This isn’t how dating actually works. You don’t sit across from a person talking about the ways in which you’ll treat one another. Instead you show it over time. Many men told me they were looking for serous relationships or something like that. The issue was they never could back up their words. If my boyfriend had sat down across from me on o it first date and explained how he wanted expected to treat me that would be a little weird. Those conversations happen organically. It’s less what thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:20 AM
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Yay I’m happy to hear it was good. I’m taking my boyfriend out on a movie date tomorrow so we’re both really excited to see it. But I was worried about the superhero movie burnout that seems to be happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:12 AM

This is true. If it’s an asset acquired before marriage then it’s not a marital asset thus not subject to property division in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:11 AM

This is true. If it’s an asset acquired before marriage then it’s not a marital asset thus not subject to property division in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:11 AM

Why are you arguing like a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:10 AM
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I’m just pointing it out. If your argument is that you’d leave because you want bio kids, you can still have them. Wanting a relationship that involves sex is completely valid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:51 PM
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You can still have kids biologically with your wife even if you can’t have sex. You’d just have to do artificial insemination.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:44 PM

There are still plenty of secretaries and assistants. And men cheated with their secretaries, they didn’t marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:32 AM
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Okay, so, would you like me to go through the Ledbetter evidence standards? Do you know what it does. I’m gonna go one point at a time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:49 PM
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That’s simply not how the law works though. The government is not coming in and suggesting businesses hire more women. They don’t allow unlimited lawsuits and the damages are definitely not limitless. I’m open to you showing me some examples, cases and whatnot. But it’s easy to put the blame on “government” when really it’s just the result of people not being invested enough to do the job right. What role was he trying to hire for?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:50 PM

With maybe one or two exceptions those men also didn’t marry those women. Celebrities and cheating happens because the men are so well known they have people throwing themselves at them. My point is, men do care about status for the woman they are going to make their wife../even if they ultimately cheat on her. Very few of those men are going to seriously date a waitress. But it also might be a celebrity thing: they want to date someone that’s away from the cameras. Bill Clinton aside….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:38 PM

I’m specifically talking about UMC men. They have the means to go anywhere, are usually more social and have wider social circles and connections. If you’re saying men don’t care about the women’s status, why aren’t these men marrying the waitresses and cashiers they interact with everyday?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:23 PM
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Yes. I know. cite the laws. Saying it’s business culture and saying it’s government mandates are two very different arguments. That company does not have any quotas it has to meet to fill certain roles. Affirmative action requirements specifically point toward the discrimination against QUALIFIED candidates. If a company doesn’t hire any women and they get dinged, all they have to do is pull up all the applicants and show that not a single woman who applied was qualified for the job. Im also ske…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:16 PM

This isn’t logically sound though. Assuming that men are aware that other women exist outside of their social spear, wouldn’t it be easier for those men to date women that aren’t their social equals? It would be easier to find a woman that’s going to be content with a little less. Why go for the woman he’s going to work harder for if in the end it doesn’t matter what the woman does?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:10 PM
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Can you cite the government policy that makes it a requirement to hire certain people? That’s not how affirmative action works .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:38 PM
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First of all, that man is obese obese. Like actually obese. Not a bit overweight. Also how many kids does she have?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:35 PM
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Yes, and you have to consider what they want. If they want to be a SAHM, a guy making 50k isn’t going to cut it. That would be delusional to expect a man to have at least two dependents and be able to maintain a comfortable living off of the average salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:24 PM
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Yes. I understand that. It’s not the norm for teachers to make that and if they do it usually takes years for them to get to that level. My aunts an art teacher who makes six figures. My statement still stands. The rich guy isn’t grabbing a random teacher off the street to date and if he does the odds of her making six figures is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:19 PM
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Class matters if you’re of higher class. Always. A bunch of neurosurgeons and doctors are always going to be at least a little judgy if any of their kids bring home someone that’s, by their terms, completely uneducated. And yes. The least you can do if you’re upper middle class and higher is be pretty and/or look your best. You have the money and it is expected that you invest it in yourself. If you’re just pretty running in circles where there is money and wealth, you’re mostly likely doing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:59 PM
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For real. It’s so easy to be pretty with money. Throw a dumpy looking man into a well-fitting suit and get his hair done, is that improvements
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:48 PM
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That’s the point: she’s a doctor. She is higher class than he is in this case. The man is the low class one. He’s dating up. Maybe the woman doesn’t care where he comes from because she sees he is successful and he loves her. She’s still getting judged way harsher than he is. And as for the beauty comment, you maybe have skipped over a crucial sentence: “being pretty isn’t special because you can pay for it”. Being pretty is literally the least you can be as a well off woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:47 PM
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I mean absolutely fair. If you know you want to be taken care of, you gotta aim high. As a man, you should do the same which is why picking the right woman matters. If my future husband ever wants to take some time away from work, he will be able to because I work an excellent job making excellent money. And because he has picked a partner that actually cares about him, I’m willing to use my money to take care of him should he choose it. A man that get a woman making 28k full time doesn’t have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:11 PM
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This is not correct. Upper middle class people also behave so different thank lower middle class people. In college my first roommate got weird because I wouldn’t “stretch” 20 bucks to last a week. She wasn’t poor, but when I tell you the gap better UMC and LMC became so apparent to me when I lived with her and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:08 PM
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Do they think all men need this. Or is that the number they need to BE a SAHM? Is it unrealistic to want a partner that’s actually going to be able to give you what you need? It’s delusional to think you can have a SAHS in this day with less than six figures if I’m being honest. Outside of some small towns that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:04 PM
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To your last sentence: that’s definitely a personal preference. Most men, especially higher earning men, want to date in their socioeconomic class. A guy making $120 might date a teacher, I’ll bet that the teacher he dates isn’t from a low-earning family. In fact, the higher earning and higher class you get, the more job and background matters all around. New money is still looked down upon, imagine a man who owns a plumbing business that is moderately successful, dating a woman who is from thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:02 PM
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You didn’t specify an age group though. You said “literally most”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:37 PM
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Are you not in the US? Because most men aren’t “in-shape”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:17 PM
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Watch someone here blame only the woman and not the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:16 PM
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I didn’t have sex for like three years before I met my bf. Went on lots of dates. Summers included. And by definition you have to be single in order to get cuffed in the summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:43 PM
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It’s time to breakout the sundresses! The guy hasn’t seen me in my final summer form yet. About to make him late for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:37 PM
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So you’re saying single women are getting guys to fuck but not dating them? Every single woman I know, myself included, that went out with the intention of having some sort of hot girl summer got snatched up. I was supposed to be having my Demi-sexual ass on an old man’s yacht not lifting a finger all summer. Now I’m making breakfast for some man and making sure his dry cleaning is picked up. The tables turn real quick. Honestly, I do think it’s a tactic to go for the “hot girl summer” women. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:36 PM
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Yeah, to you. But if men didn’t like fake validation prostitution wouldn’t exist as it does. Some guys may react negatively to false validation, but most dontZ
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:27 PM
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Women that are dating aren’t just Fucking a new guy a month though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:27 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. Realistically, I know I’m not physically the MOST attractive woman my boyfriend has dated. But imagine how hurt most men here would be if their girlfriend answered how this guy did. So much that a lot of them would rather be the “best” guy by default. Partner says I’m the most beautiful woman he’s fallen in love with. And I’m the most beautiful woman he will ever love. He thinks I’m hot, cute, beautiful all that shit. If my boyfriend was one of those guys that thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:26 PM
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This is not true. Some people can just not have sex. It’s way more common to see a woman with a 2+ year dry spell than a man. All this animosity when men here would be behaving the exact same way they think women are if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:56 AM
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Prostitution wouldn’t exist if that was the case. Men enjoy validation just as much as women; like women, the validation needs to be about certain things that are believable. A woman with longterm self esteem issues and a man with longterm self esteem issue are going to react quite similarly to a therapist telling them that they are valuable. Switch it up with a successful, attractive man and woman who is going through a rough patch; that validation from a therapist is likely to help set them ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:54 AM
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Get off PPD..this is not a place for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:45 AM
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I’m being facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:37 PM

That is their thinking. They are funding this woman’s life, she doesn’t have to do anything except feed him, have his babies, care for his babies and be loyal. He can do whatever he wants, because he’s paying for it. To guys that want that sort of lifestyle, he’s doing the woman a favor and the favor she gives is being loyal and available. Most guys don’t have the kind of money for this and they won’t ever have it. Plus women can work now, so there’s no reason for a sane woman to marry a man she…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:27 PM

He’s buying her loyalty in exchange for funding life. It’s more likely for the man in this situation to find cheating to be fair: he’s paying for it so he should be able to get what he can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:20 PM
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Yeah. They attach a LOT of emotion to sex. So much so that some men get upset about sex a woman had before she met him. Then in the same breath they will say that women care so little about a man’s sexual exploits that she should be able the cheat in peace as long as he’s still doing what he needs to do. The last point is extremely laughable because most women in the west have to work anyway. A man “doing what he needs to do” in todays age isn’t the same as it was in the 20s. Plus, let’s say a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:17 AM
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They mean nothing to men either. Some men conveniently forget that once cheating happens. “But I’m still taking care of my family.” That’s great but your wife didn’t sign up to have a third…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:03 AM
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“But men are different. Women have emotions and feelings with sex. Men don’t!” So if there’s no emotions or feelings involved why couldn’t he just not cheat if it’s something that’s not a big deal? Men definitely attach emotions to being able to have sex. You see them the second a woman they think they 100% should be able to get easily rejects them. The validation they seek from sex connects directly with their emotional side. It’s makes some men feel happy, special. Sex isn’t just an activity, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:00 AM
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What’s wild is that the only person who would spend the time doing this is another incel….and they would both still blame women for the entire thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:57 AM
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That’s the issue though: If people settle for whoever is there this is what happens. In that instance though, I really liked the guy, but at the time I would have developed feelings for anyone that gave me a glance. I thought that showing him something I was passionate about, doing something for him that took work and effort would show him how serious I was. Obviously it didn’t, and for most people it won’t. That’s why I’ll never blame people who say “I won’t do this for someone I’m not sure abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:55 AM
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Well, probably since I’m a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:48 AM
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If you want all the details. My boyfriend has most of these things in spades, so this list may be influenced by him a lot. He gives the most amazing hugs. He gives and shows me real love. That’s all I need him for at a base level. Now for shallow stuff. To maintain my level of living I need the following: 125k min (not realistc for everyone, I got super fucking lucky). Long term though. This number can have way more wiggle room early on. Like 70K of wiggle room so long as he has some ambition, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:48 AM
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Wait, I thought women had super low libidos?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:31 AM
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Made my boo some braised oxtail today, he loves when I cook for him. I love that he is happy to do the dishes. I will say, I’m not cooking for just any man. Well Not a big meal, at least. Even though in enjoy cooking, it’s definitely work and I really need to feel appreciated if I’m spending 6 hours in the kitchen, making something for someone because they told me it was their favorite. In the past, I would cook for any guy. And it ended up with them just taking it for granted because they didn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:29 AM
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I thought about this a lot in terms of religion. I often noticed that a lot of good looking people were religious: not necessarily super pious. But there’s a reason why people think liberals are just weirdos. The good looking, congenitally popular people had “better” lives and mostly always attributed it in some part to being blessed. Question is, are their lives good because they are in fact blessed, or are people just nicer to them because they happen to look good, and come from a line of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:24 AM
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You misread. I said i understand “why guys that date like that…” ie, guys that date anyone just to not be single, are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:17 AM
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It’s hard to undo thousands of years of indoctrination with just 50 of progress. Think of it this way; imagine how different sex would be if the female orgasm was also needed for procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:16 AM
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I literally gave a less extreme, non-problematic example in the same response. Which was in reply to your- women=gold digger-comment. No one wants to Fucking work for a living. It’s not our fault men thought it was a fair trade to take on in exchange for sex and a hot meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:15 AM
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So you’re saying men would just ignore the risk and still seek causal sex? I’m not talking about the want for sexual activity, I’m talking about the action of seeking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:08 PM
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I’m saying, if the risk were equal do you think men would just take the risk? Or would the risk outweighs the sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:06 PM
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If the risk for sex between men and women were the same, do you think it would change those numbers? For example, if women knew there was 100% chance of them not getting pregnant? Or if men thought that their having sex would cheapen their perceived value?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:56 PM
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I think it was because I gave basically any man with a pulse and some form of job a chance. So long as he was age appropriate and could hold some form of conversation; I dated like men here say they do: they don’t care what the partner has outside of being minimally attractive and willing to date them. Actually I understand why guys that date like that are miserable. I was miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:43 PM
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Men that want a submissive woman don’t actually want the submissive woman intimately. They want a commodity that they know they can control and have access to whenever. A safety net they can treat however without fear that she will leave. If these men actually were sexually attracted and respected the meek, submissive women, they wouldn’t cheat on them constantly, or go out of their way to only spend them minimum amount of time with them. The man with a doormat at home will chase the sexy woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:37 PM
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Everyone wants an atm. if a man could get a woman that was willing to pay all the bills, do what he said and be a bang maid he wouldn’t complain . Less extreme, if I man found a woman willing to pay the majority of the bills and he was able to pursue his passions instead of doing a job he hated, he’d love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:31 PM
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Personally, I didn’t find success until I stuck to my list. I was giving guys chances that I shouldn’t have been, it was making me miserable in the dating world because I just felt like I wasn’t compatible with anyone. A woman in my work used to only date men that made 200K+, had a car, and who took her to dinners on a first date. Granted, she made 200k so she was only asking for as much as she made. However she also didn’t want to date anyone that was in a similar professional she had to wiggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 10:34 PM
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That’s not how the system works though. As long as the guy reports it, he should be able to open a case against her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:33 PM
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Women have hobbies: lots of women read, workout doing something specific like Pilates or barre, often take classes. I would also argue that being a move buff is a hobby, being social can also be a hobby; for instance there are some social clubs that have mixers. Board game nights, cooking, trying new restaurants, one of my friends makes jewelry. I think you’re reducing women to too small a group. We aren’t all just sitting at home in front of the tv. Which is also exactly what gaming is. I game,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:22 PM
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I find that the issue is more neither party considers the other persons hobbies as hobbies. So many women would dismiss video games as entertainment as easily as you would reality tv.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:46 PM
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a woman who is sober who has sex with a visibly drunk man would likely be charged so long as the man reported it. If they are both drunk that case likely wouldn’t go to court because there is no victim in that case. Neither could consent so there is nothing to litigate. I supposed they could fight to prove one of them wasn’t actually drunk, but it would be difficult to prove since they are attesting that they were not in their right mind to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:45 PM
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If you want to have fast sex and that’s your end goal then theres not reason to get thoroughly. Even if this were the case, the boredom and lack of interest wouldn’t be an issue because the parties are there for sex. There is nothing wrong with either party engaging in causal sex so long as they are being honest and safe about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:26 PM
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The boy would be guilty. He was not forced here, he was sober and forced himself on someone else. He’d still be guilty. He still had sex with a woman while she was drunk, should have know she was not in her mind to consent. That woman would feel terrible for having violated and been violated by a minor. But she’s the victim here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:22 PM
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This law is not gendered. If goes both ways. If a an is coerced into sex while drunk then he can bring the exact same claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:14 PM
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It depends on if it’s reasonable to believe she’s drunk. Is she slurring her words? Falling down? Those things all go into the equation. If she is just sitting there talking to you normally, having a clear conversation, then you have an argument that it was reasonable for you to think she wasn’t drunk. To your first point, if both parties are drunk it’s unlikely that case would see the light of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:13 PM
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Not all women are boring either. Most people can make an attempt at conversation. But this is also why vetting your partner is important, of course you think she’s boring, y’all have nothing in common. She would probably be thinking the same about you. But I’m also wondering how often this happens in practice without one of the parties pretending to be interested? Like someone has to be perpetuating this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:36 PM
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I’m gonna say dude, outside of like 3 of these, I don’t think even most guys would care about them. Most people don’t even know the difference between the Permian and Jurassic periods. Most people don’t buy enough graphic cards to worry about the prices of them. AI is pretty common. Again, unless you’re really young, you can probably get a group of people discussing AI, it’s literally all over TikTok and social media. It’s constantly talked about. Have you tried….going to places where there woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:30 PM
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So you don’t have any topics? Or is it only sports and anime. How many guys are actually seriously into anime? It’s not like the things men or women like is foreign. Guys can (and often do) enjoy the drama of reality tv. And more women like sports than is portrayed. Men’s hobbies aren’t boring, I love hearing my guy talk about something he’s passionate about. I may have no Fucking clue what it is, but it makes him excitedly happy to share it with me. Honestly if anyone is really excited to tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:18 PM
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Okay. So, back to my original question, what conversation topics would interest you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:58 PM
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So you don’t have any female friends? I’m pretty reserved about what I am discussing at work with people I don’t know well: best to stick to safe topics so no one feels left out. It seems like, they are just talking about things you aren’t interested in? What would you prefer they talk about? Give me a topic that would interest you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:56 PM
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What sort of women are you talking to? Women are not a monolith. Do you want to talk about politics? Sports? Cars? Video games? Comedians? Please give me a topic where women are not sole to at least engage with you a little bit, even if it’s discourse. Whenever a guy says women are boring I always picture it’s from a 18-20 year old who hasn’t really had any experience with women. Their entire view of women boils down to two minute conversations that are halfhearted. Or they exclusively go for va…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:51 PM
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Women are boring because some men don’t see them as whole people. Not every woman has the same likes and dislikes. And not wanting a gym bro while wanting a not overly muscular guy is valid. We understand that you can go to the gym, enjoy the gym, but not have bodybuilder obession with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:46 PM
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Young me would say she wanted to give those men a chance because they were “probably really nice”. Now I know that ugly or hot, people give your headaches. Just gotta find the kind of person who gives you the fewest headaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:18 PM
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No, he doesn’t need his partner to clean for him. He doesn’t view domestic work of that type ws important or as an expectation in a relationship. He’d rather just pay someone. To be honest, he’s much more A-type than I am, cleaning to his specifications would annoy the hell out of me. When I do it he is definitely appreciative. Plus he understands that I’ve curbed my messiness significantly so that we can coexist: he still doesn’t need me to clean. He does love when I cook though. But I do that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:38 PM
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I cook for my bf because I enjoy cooking. But he doesn’t expect his partner to do domestic work. He pays for someone to clean his house, why would he expect his girlfriend to do it for free? My boyfriend has regularly implied that if I wanted the kept woman life at some point, I could have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:04 PM
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I’m saying they need to talk about it. But if you’re expecting to feel desired while the relationship is in a rough patch, while doing nothing to improve or address the rough patch, that’s a bit much to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:38 PM
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Oh yeah it’s a thing. But those men that are doing that usually aren’t the wealthy men, they are well off men. There is a certain point where men who have access stop even subconsciously equating their worth to the attractiveness of the women they can bang. It’s also changing as a new generation of meh become old rich men. Rich men once had to operate under some conservative rules in their youth. Their partners were picked from a curated list of appropriate women. As they got older their no long…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:36 PM
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Okay maybe we are saying the same thing then. Even my mentor says that the women are attractive but there is inherently more to it than that. Men of PPD sometimes seem to be convinced that a 23 year old woman is going to be an all around better choice; sure maybe for a 30 year old man that makes 70k and can’t really afford much besides a house in an okay neighborhood. But for the men saying they are maxing our wealth in order to lure in a young, doting partner…they are acting in a bit of s delus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:17 PM
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I do think there was a miscommunication: if I remember one thread was saying that the first thing to go when a relationship gets rocky is the sex. Women did respond by saying if course it does. And men didn’t understand WHY. Sex is responsive for women, in a relationship she has to feel safe to be able to be that vulnerable. If a guy sine doing his part in the relationship, whatever it may be, why would a woman be comfortable enough to have sex. Shits getting bad. It’s not reasonable to think sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:10 PM
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Yea, there are 23 year old rich hotties. There are 23 year old middle class hotties. either of those women would be appropriate for an older rich man to bring home, why: who is going to tell him he can’t. I run in these circles, talk to these men. Hell, I’m dating one of these men, at an earlier stage in life. one of my mentors is an old rich white guy: he’s juggling like three girlfriends right now: he understands they want him for his money and hardly nothing else: he doesn’t care because he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:44 PM
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Okay so it’s talking about in the context of relationships? My take on this is simple; did she ever initiate? Before you got serious (if you had sex before getting serious) did she ever initiate? Was it ever discussed? I say the same thing to women who complain about not having orgasms as a woman who has issues orgasming: No one can read your Fucking mind. And it might be obvious to you that you might want to be seduced every now and then, but i just assume my partner is an idiot about something…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:38 PM
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They don’t have consequences is what I’m saying. You’re trying to rationalize why all rich men that are single don’t marry co-eds. It’s not because they can’t, it’s because they don’t want to. What was someone really going to say to Jeff Bezos? Like what could they possibly do to make him not give himself something he really wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:31 PM
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Really it’s that most rich men who are looking for young women DO NOT want to marry them. It’s entirely detrimental to the life they want, especially if they already have children, to have another young person coming in and throwing off the balance they cultivated. A rich older man that wants to marry a younger woman will probably go for a woman in her 30s who has accomplished something. He doesn’t need a woman to get status, he doesn’t need to work to even get in the room with beautiful women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:18 PM
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I’m just trying to figure out who you are saying the women use this excuse on? Their partners? Or men that approach them for random sex? Because the context matters to the conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:06 PM
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Again. I don’t care so long as the friendship was genuine. He could say he thought I was hot. That’s great. I obviously liked him. But if the friendship wasn’t genuine and he was putting on a facade for the sake of sex, you don’t think that’s equally weird as you’re claiming I’m being? For instance: if he had asked me out and I refused saying I just wanted to be friends, would he have still continued the friendship? This is assuming we have been good friends before he asked me out. Or would he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:41 PM
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I disagree. I said he wasn’t going to wife up the poor woman, not that he’d ignore her. One of the partners at my work regularly brings his flavor of the week to events. Of course, he’s the boss, so we are limited to what we say, but the other partners certainly could make a fuss. He doesn’t bring her to charity galas, he doesn’t bring her to golf outings and he doesn’t bring her anywhere near clients. It’s not because he will get dinged because she’s almost 30 years younger than he is, but beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:38 PM
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No if he’s saying he was only acting that way to get in my pants and he wouldn’t have acted that way had he not wanted to fuck me then it absolutely matters. Did he think my friendship was valuable without the possibility of sex? Was he really being a good friend and not just trying to curate a relationship for himself, without regard to how I felt about it so long as I fell for the stylized version of him that he made for me? I don’t care if he was attracted to me so long as his friendship was …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:24 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:10 PM

I think the issue here is some people don’t know what responsive libido means. It’s not just the seducing for the sex part, especially when that person is your partner. It can be a mix of everything he’s doing throughout the day and what’s happened to you in the day. Men see tits or the wind blows just right and they are hornet and willing to have sex Women see an attractive man, notice what he’s wearing, how he speaks, and maybe consider if he’s on the surface the type of man they’d want. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:09 PM

It’s depends. Is he saying The friendship was just a pretext for getting in my pants and he never was actually my friend? If he says something along that lines yeah, that would upset me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:50 AM

Reading the book is the seduction sometimes. The book doesn’t just start with porn on the first page. You get to know the characters a bit. Some women can read literary erotica and -gasp- not have to touch themselves. Do you know how common it is for to read spicy literature in public? I’m interested in the story, the spice is just a little bonus. Not all women have responsive libidos. And the desire for penetrative sex with a partner, at least to me, feels different than a desire to just read a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:49 AM
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That’s normal because the rich man is well..rich. But I doubt most rich men are going out finding the Walmart or Burger King cashier and wifing her up. If anything it’ll be the beverage cart girl at the golf course, the waitress at the exclusive social club, or friend of a model at a charity event. Something like that if he’s dating someone from a low socioeconomic status. More than likely though, he is meeting a middle class or higher woman somewhere that’s makes a little sense. Maybe her work …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:45 AM

I have inorgasmia. It sucks. Sometimes I just can’t feel anything or it just hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:20 AM
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I survived meeting the parents! Time to sleep in my own damn bed. About to make up for like three days of cuddles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:29 PM
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This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:07 PM

Yeah! That’s true. But I also try not to judge like that. Some of my family is pretty terrible and if my bf judged me and our relationship based off them I’d be screwed. But, that is a good point! I do need to see how their family is and how they interact with one another. Thanks! I’m feeling a tiny bit more at ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:24 AM

Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:33 AM

I’m going full step from wife for the outfits. The issue is we are going for the long weekend. Since we will be swimming I panic bought a bunch of one piece swimsuits and tasteful coverups. This is so weird. Like, where do I sleep? What do I do at breakfast? I’ve never met anyone’s parents before! We’ve spoken a bit and I’ve said hi when he was FaceTiming them but I feel like this is jumping in with no prep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:19 AM

I feel like normal people are rare, especially once they get a little wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:24 PM

That would explain why their son seems to not want to wear clothes around me.🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:21 PM

His dad! I’m meeting my boyfriends parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:50 PM

Lord I’m meeting the parents. I’m terrified. Petrified. What do I do? What do I wear? What if they hate me in person?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:40 PM
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They definitely want to feel special I’m not even talking about guys that want virgins, who literally do say they have to be her best (you just can’t be her worst). Most women assume we are going to have to teach a guy what gets us off. If your ignore that, or just can’t seem to get the hang of it, then yeah, it’s a bad sign. But we don’t expect men we date to have magic dicks. If you’re willing to listen and bring in a toy or two, I gurantee you’ll at the very least be her favorite! Men want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:36 PM

I don’t remember for lexapro honestly. But it definitely kills your sex drive, but if it’s been only a few weeks it might come back. If it doesn’t i would ask to switch to something else. Also if ketamine therapy is available that has been working absolute wonders for me: and it ups my sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:57 PM

It killed mine! And it was already low, I was essentially fully asexual for like years. Didn’t have the urge to do anything even with myself. Try buproprion if you can switch. It’s Wellbutrin. But definitely increases sex drive in some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:20 PM
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Yes they do. If they didn’t care about feeling special why do so many men here harp on “how she acted before”? Or constantly talk about having to be her best or else she will leave. Men definitely want to feel special and cherished in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:09 PM
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What do you mean? No one is “special” in that they should get better treatment than anyone. Imagine if your girlfriend told you that: “I’m treating you this way because you don’t deserve better because you’re not special”. You’d be hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:40 PM
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You deserve a partner that makes you feel like you’re special.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:39 PM
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Men seem to wonder why women don’t appreciate all the sexual attention in a way similar to them. They act surprised that people don’t want to be referred to as meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:38 PM
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Someone’s going to be special to you. There’s so many neurodiverse guys here I think that’s where a lot of the confusion comes from. They think someone special is going to be special to EVERYONE. Your partner just needs to be special to you; the right one will have a mix of qualities you find endearing and special. They probably won’t be special to anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:49 PM
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…and you’re surprised no one is jumping at joy by being considered “fuck meat”? Are the men saying this special? What even is special these days? Pretty? Rich? What if someone prettier or richer comes along, are you no longer special?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:22 PM

This was so sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:10 PM

They have. They weren’t paid well for it. Poor women have always worked to some degree. Either by having to do manual labor higher earning women didn’t do, or by being servants. Mostly by being servants that were paid in housing and food. There was no middle class for most of history. Either women were working as servants, tended livestock, were seamstresses, cooks, if their husbands also worked the fields they too were working and cleaning. Women of means could not work, nor did they have any s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:17 PM

In a time where they couldn’t work, nothing was handed out and the only way to survive was by marrying the man with the most money that you personally could? And even then, if the man with the most money was still poor, you still had little choice but to get married because your family couldn’t afford to feed you forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:41 PM

This! I never understood the thought process men here use to try to claim that average women were just banging hot dudes left and right. Hell, hot girls have to fight each other for hot guys. Hot men aren’t just randomly Fucking mid women. They don’t need to entertain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:27 PM

Men with more options definitely have no issues committing when they want to. I don’t think the “vast majority” is a correct measure. For men without options, they might commit to relationships that seem simple okay with the hopes that it’ll get better. But even that woman will have to meet some minimum standard. Men with options will wait. My boyfriend wasn’t hurting for options when we met. Yet he is now committed to me because we are good for one another. He wouldn’t have committed to any of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:25 PM
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Then we, as a couple, can get a place together that’s OURs. The owner can put their place for rent, and we as a couple can rent a place together. Personally, I’d prefer that even if he was asking for no rent. That way we could feel like the home was both of ours, instead of feeling a little bit like a houseguest. Honestly if you buy a nearly million dollar piece of property and can’t afford to furnish it that was pretty stupid. You couldn’t afford it then. You should have got something cheaper b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:01 PM
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He can tell me a number if that’s the need! But if he’s so worried about where his money is going and not going, maybe moving in with a partner at that time wouldn’t be the best thing to do. It’s not like I’m going to ask him how much shirt cost. I’m going to ask how much he wants for utilities and subscriptions, for groceries and other stuff I’ll just buy as needed…I do this now. My boyfriend and I don’t keep track of who buys what, I will admit, he spends more than me, but that’s because he wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:47 PM
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Because how else is he affording this property? If was imaging a normal personal living in an average house somewhere, that made an average down payment of like 30k. (The average in the us for first time owners is like 10%) btw. My boyfriend now is very well off, no debt and some family money. I on the other hand have lots of grad school debt, he knows my finances. If this man bought where he needed a six figure down payment then asked me to move in AND pay rent on top of all my other bills, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:42 PM
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You think 250k is cheap for a 1 bedroom condo??? Are one bedrooms usually worth a million where you’re at? I’m also not talking about a new high rise. This would be a walk up building in need to updates and work. Also if my millionaire boyfriend right now asked me to pay his Fucking mortgage I would laugh in his face. Or to rephrase, if my boyfriend bought a million dollar piece of propriety on his own, then asked me to move in and pay rent that’s anywhere near market or half market I would laug…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:27 PM
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250k for a 1 bedroom condo is cheap? You do know I mean US dollars right? $250,000? Are we using the term “down payment” in the same manner? I mean it as the funds you give at Closing as the initial payment, the next month you start making mortgage payments. Down payments are a certain percentage of the full mortgage. Just want to make sure we are on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:23 PM
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He stopped talking to me after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:57 PM
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You said down payment. A down payment on the home isn’t $400k maybe 40K depending on the house but most people aren’t putting the majority of the homes cost down as a down payment. I live in a large city. A one bedroom condo can cost you like 250k here. The down payment is separate from the actual cost of the home. The average person is not saving up 400k for a down payment. That would be most if not all of the tots mortgage for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:56 PM
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I have said several times that I would pay bills. But if my friends came to live with me, it would because they need to save money, having them pay half my mortgage and bills wouldn’t save them much money to be able to get on their feet fast. I’d rather them save $1000s every month and be able to leave in six months to a year than have them in my house for years. They can pay a couple hundred for bills and for all of their food and the goods they use. As long as they keep the place clean and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:54 PM
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I literally just pulled a random dick pic from the internet. The dudes reply was “why would you send this to me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:51 PM
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I once sent a guy back a picture of a bigger dick. He got upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:08 PM
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And the average person did not save up $200k for a down payment. What kinds of houses are you buying here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:04 PM
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I just wouldn’t even charge friends and family to live with me. I don’t hate any of my exes, I don’t really think about them unless something happens to bring them up. My boyfriend now is the only one I’m actually considering as serious, since my relationship history is pretty sparse otherwise. I am not preemptively angry at him. Simply, I do not think it’s fair to capitalize on anyone who you care about that’s coming to live in your home , especially if you (the owner) asked the to come live wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:00 PM
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Why am I “helping out” with mortgage payments for a home I have no stake in? Maybe we can write up an agreement that if we break-up he will give me the money back. Is the house big enough for me to actually have my own space? Like a room that’s just mine as an office? Because if he was renting the place out to a real roommate, they wouldn’t be sharing the same bed. He is building equity off of his girlfriend. That’s not fair. This is not a business relationship: it’s a romantic one. If he has 75…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:19 PM
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The 12K number is not relevant: more so how much his mortgage is. If his mortgage is 1500 and I’m paying 750, he is now up. He already owned this house I’m assuming, he didn’t buy it for me. His mortgage payments would be the same regardless of if I lived there or not. As for my rent, I could get a roommate to make rent cheaper, move to a different part of town. You’re still missing the point where this couple is moving in together for a reason. Did he ask her to move in? Was it to live with her…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:25 AM
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Ahh. Yeah, I’m assuming if a friend or family is living with me, they have to come stay with me. I’m at the age where roommates are getting tiresome. Even before I met my bf, I told myself that my current roommate would likely be my last. I don’t see any scenario where I would just want to live with friends. When I was just getting started I had friends offer me their spare room, but even they said they only wanted utilities and food cost. Perhaps it’s just different in my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:11 AM
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He can rent out his place (for profit) and we can rent a place together that’s ours. He can keep all of the money from his owned home and we will have a place where we both have equal stakes, when we get married, we move into his house or buy our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:56 AM
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What’s half rent? What number was I paying before. Prior to where I am now I lived in a 2/2 for about 1500, for my portion. Is he going to let me stay there for 700? It’s totally dependent on what his mortgage is. And what the other persons finances are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:54 AM
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Same here really. I wouldn’t charge my partner rent in a place I owned because I wouldn’t charge anyone I cared about rent in a place I own. If they need to live with me to save money then I want to to save the money so they can get back on their feet. For my partner if we are moving in to start a life together then I think having him pay rent would be silly. If he offered to pay, sure I’d let him pay something. But I’d also make sure he knew it was also his house. My partner and I will be movin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:14 PM
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Hmm I’ve asked all my landlords if they report and they say no. I have to use experian to mark the payments as rent. It’s kind of annoying: I’ll have to look into it. But I agree. Paying into a house I’m not getting equity in, nor have the same rights to as my partner seems like a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:09 PM
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You don’t get credit boosts for rentals in the US. And I mean he could still say he was your landlord. He’s really not going to be acting as one anyway, if you fall on hard times is he going to evict you? Is you going to report your late rent payments? Unless I misread what you meant. Would you just insist on paying something to him or not live with him unless it was also your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:36 PM
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Dude you’re being dramatic with the genocide thing. I just don’t think anyone should unilaterally gain financially from a failed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:30 PM
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If he could afford to pay the mortgage before and now has to put less of his own money toward his full payment every month he is profiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:28 PM
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I’m also not moving into someone’s house if they own it without being serious about them. Unless they’d already planned on making the noise partly rental income, my staying with a friend or a friend staying with me would have no impact on my income stream. I’d charge them a little bit, but honestly, my close friends are close friends and unless it’s them and bunch of kids taking up more than one guest room, they are using space I wasn’t. They didn’t pay a down payment or anything true but if buy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:01 PM
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Oh no, he’s definitely better. He didn’t have much loans because he could afford to pay out of pocket and got some amazing scholarships on top of his great job. It’s not that I want more: I just think, in this case it would be more fair if I got less. Like spend less on loans and pay more on rent. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great deal. I am just the kind of person that always needs a safety net or a contingency plan, and I’m not used to it being another person. I’m more worried that, I dunno, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:15 PM
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Also want to make this clear, if it’s anyone I care about coming to stay with me in a house I OWN, be it friend, family or partner, I would not seek to profit off them. I wouldn’t charge them rent of anything more than utilities. Rent and shit is for strangers. I’d have them sign a roommate agreement that stipulated living comfort expectations, but that’s just so we can have an idea of how to live with one another. so long as I didn’t plan on using their room for an income, they can have it basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:47 PM
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I don’t expect a power struggle. I’m just saying the relationship is not one of a landlord and tenant. He is being enriched. If the relationship ends he gets part of his mortgage paid for. I am fine paying half just put me on the title then? If we don’t expect a power struggle what’s the issue? Otherwise, rent the place out and let’s get a place that’s actually ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:43 PM
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We both make good money. Both of us are in the same profession, he’s been doing it a little longer though. I’m about a year or two in, so I am still taming my grad school debt. He crunched some number and basically turns out that if I live with him it would only cost him a couple hundred extra than what he’s paying now. While I would save almost 3k a month on housing alone. So, he basically offered to take on the brunt of my living expenses with the stipulation that I use the majority of my inco…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:41 PM
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Yeah I’m not going to kick my friend out. I’m also not charging my friend who is staying with me for a bit rent most likely. If they want to contribute to other things that’s great, I’m not charging someone I care about rent money. That’s for strangers. I wouldn’t care if the place was a rental, at that point you both have the same stake. But the owner of the home is getting the better end of the deal in every single way if things don’t work out. Which, if we aren’t worried about things not work…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:37 PM
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Yeah because you are showing, with a legal contract that they paid you money toward your house . The issue is not the rental agreement here, it’s the nature of the relationships. And a good attorney would easily capitalize on that the second common law marriage is brought up. They’d say she paid into the home and this now has a stake in that home. Now if y’all just break up then there’s no legal harm. Other than you have now gotten a chunk of your mortgage paid for by your ex. And she has nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:33 PM
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You do get tax breaks for interest paid on mortgages. Most states have homeowning incentives or exemptions. All of which you’ll pay technically less on, with the other party unable to claim any of those exemptions. In this case it’s a mitigating factor: if something goes wrong, realistically speaking the non-owning party has no rights. Sure let’s say they get a lease. If they break up is she really going to stay in that house until the lease is up? Is he going to sue her if she leaves early?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:29 PM
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This is because you don’t understand how marital property laws work. There are separate laws to determine whether or not something is marital property. If she paid for it, then yes, she would get it. But they judge is going to look at when the common law marriage elements had been fully met (which include holding yourself out as a married couple, not simply living together) and when the home was purchased. If you go around telling people you’re married, filing taxes together then buy a home, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:25 PM
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I’m all for that renting out place to tenants. It is much more fair. In the us there are mortgage interest tax credits, basically lowers the amount of taxes you owe the more interest you pay on your mortgage. If he uses this extra money to pay his interest, then he’d effectively be getting a tax break from her too. No reporting the taxes would be for you. You would report it as income and pay additional taxes on it, as landlords are usually required to do. My boyfriend and I live separately righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:12 PM
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If she’s gotten to the point where she’s looking at his penis I’d assume they know one another pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:01 PM
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Are you not going to use any of that money toward your mortgage? In this case the only one saving money here is you. Her rent may be cheaper but you will get tax breaks for mortgage payments. You most likely won’t claim that income as rental income as most official landlords do and pay taxes on it. Then you also get cheaper utilities: water and electrify go up somewhat with a second person, but they rarely double. And for static bills like internet, you then continue to save.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:48 PM

Faking it is building it. You’re not going to suddenly get up and love the gym. But you are going to draw motivation from that ideal version of yourself in order to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:43 PM

Did he regularly rent his place out of to other tenants? For instance, my bf currently lives alone. No roommates or anything. He is responsible for everything in his home. If I move in and start paying him even half market rent, I am paying into a home I have no rights to. If we break-up am I really going to petition a court to let me stay in this home for the term of our lease? He’s not going to serve me notices for being late on rent. He’s not treating me as a renter, just like I’m not testing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:42 PM

Did he use any of that rent to pay his mortgage or was his house completely paid off? Seems like he may have gained a bit, depending on what you paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:24 PM

If you break up would you give the money she paid toward your mortgage back? Because but for being your girlfriend she would have never been there, paying rent to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:08 PM

See that’s fair though. You’re fine with her getting her money back. Most guys here aren’t going to give that money back if they breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:07 PM

But do you think you’d treat him like a landlord at that point? Like if something big, like a water heater breaks, are you going to chip in to fix it? Because if I was a renter I would not. Would you want the mortgage money you paid to him back if you break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:05 PM

Here ya go! https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/13okvwr/if_a_guy_owns_a_home_do_you_think_its_acceptable/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:52 PM
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That literally not how it works. What state are you in? I’ll pull the statue. Common law marriage rules default to regular marriage rules once common law marriage has been established. Common law marriage speaks to the process of being recognized as married. There are not special Marital asset clauses for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:47 PM
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Show me the case law. Common law marriage is very specific on its requirements. And even then the house isn’t marital property because it was bought prior to the marriage, it may be mortal property if she pays for part of the mortgage and any repairs. The judges ruling is based on the law, not personal opinion. The law is the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:46 PM
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He is contributing other ways. He doesn’t need to pay my mortgage for me. You get a tax break for making mortgage payments: she is living in a house, operating not as a tenant, I say this because he’s not going to throw her out if she misses rent. Or serve her with eviction papers when she’s 10 days late. He’s not being a landlord. He is collecting money she is giving him, paying his mortgage then getting triple savings by: Getting the same tax break even though he’s only Payton half the mortgag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:45 PM

Why? You can’t just become confident and secure overnight. You need to act like you would if you were the ideal version of you. My ideal self wouldn’t be sitting in bed everyday super late, so I started getting up early in order to emulate the life I wanted. Would she have clear skin? A nice body? How would she have gotten those things: to a certain degree you have to live like the ideal version of you would be living. Or else how will you ever get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:38 PM
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No, not really. It’s still his if they get divorced because it was bought prior to the marriage. Things prior to marriage or given as gifts to one specific person (inheritance) aren’t considered marital property. Now if she pays part of his mortgage, then they get married and subsequently get divorced, then she has claim to the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:35 PM

That’s also true. There are tons of issues with having a lease agreement for the payments that come only if you get married, but tons more for the non-owning party that come if you don’t get married. I also think that, protection wise, the lease agreement is smart if you’re moving into someone’s home. Even if it’s states that you only pay utilities household bills and items. At least then he can’t just summarily throw you out with no place to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:34 PM

I mean if the relationship was good she wouldn’t be leaving. She’s either feeling stuck, in which case it’s not fair to the guy to keep him in the relationship. Or she’s feeling like the relationship can’t go anywhere else because of their differences. Either way, would you prefer her to just stick with him no matter what she’s feeling? Even if she’s not into him anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:01 PM

I just figured out that I read it wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:59 PM

Even then it’s not necessarily a good idea if you wanted to keep the investment non-marital property in the future. If the non-owning party pays anything toward the mortgage and you guys get married, then it can be partly theirs if there is every a divorce. Might as well just throw them on the paperwork at that point. The lease isn’t the issue here, no judge is going to agree that you were simply a tenant during that time. The relationship is what’s going to change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:57 PM

Op pointed that out. Still makes less sense, they are only 22. How does she feel old lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:47 PM

I was talking about the house/mortgage debate from yesterday with my bf. We tend to be on the same page about it: if it’s an owned property and not a rental, whoever owns the house should be paying the mortgage. The other person can take on all of the other bills if needed. Do any of you guys disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:44 PM

Ohhh okay my bad I misread. So wait…she’s only 22? She is young. What the heck are they doing where she feels old!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:42 PM

For real. They are both almost 30 now, prob only ever dated each other. It’s going to be pure hell jumping back in: but it’ll be better than staying in a situation that was going nowhere and stifling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:41 PM

They’ve been dating for ten years and she’s still his girlfriend? Did they not believe in marriage? Maybe it was just not working. If you’re with the right person you generally still feel young and free with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:32 PM
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If I show you the many accounts I’ve read regarding lesbians recounting their experiences with divorce and marriage would you take in that information? You also haven’t given me a reason or cause to refute. All you’ve said is that women are responsible for more divorces, which I didn’t disagree with. I instead gave you a reason why lesbian marriages end. It’s common knowledge that lesbian relationships tend to move much faster than any of the other relationship dynamics. If they aren’t out of ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:09 PM

Wouldn’t men rather do the same with women? Get the highest value woman they can and never have to share her with anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:03 PM

So if someone acts on their primal urges and gropes another person should we just accept it because it’s “them being an animal first”? If someone robs you and takes your resources do we just shrug it off?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:02 PM

The issue is, if you leave human with a different group, it’ll adapt and grow within that group to survive. Learning the ins and outs of whatever society you put it in. If you raise a wild animal to be domesticated, it still is and will always be a wild animal. You can trust a tiger, even one raised by humans not to one day eat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:59 PM

Fake it til you make it, King.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:56 PM

So you’d rather watch your family starve and not be able to provide and help them get ahead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:55 PM

It’s usually always a trip for two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:53 PM

While we are animals I think our socialization and technological advances make us have to react like humans first. We are the only creatures that pay to live on the earth. We have separated ourselves from animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:50 PM
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So here’s the issue with this data as you’re presenting it. It’s saying that there are 980,000 same we’d households. Of those households, about 58% of them are married. Of that 58%, under half of them were men married to other men. This doesn’t account for length of relationship , marriage or anything like that. Now, the lesbian divorce rate is incredibly high, but I still think it has more to do with the length of the relationship and how fast they are moving. Marriage is sold as this romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:45 PM
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That’s a wild statement from someone that’s most likely never had to live life as a woman. There are definitely presssures that don’t go away just because you come out. There’s still pressure to settle down and start families that pop up even in the most liberal of houses. People like to see their loved ones happy and with others, it’s just how it happens. Gay men just also don’t get married as often. And if they do it takes much longer. The pressures lead women into jumping into things quickly …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:31 PM
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…do lesbians not regularly carry children with the help of sperm banks? They can still have children naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:19 PM
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That’s 100% untrue. Non-conservatives still also put pressure on women to, at the very least had babies. Mostly because there is a biological ticking clock involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:12 PM
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Can you show me some cases where it’s worked like you’re suggesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:05 PM
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Regardless, the owning party can avoid all of those by just not having his partner pay any part of his mortgage. They still wouldn’t force him to sell to pay those funds. And the guy here would prob just settle for something else. Very few divorces actually go to trial. Very rarely will the appreciation funds be given to a non-owning party for an asset that was acquired before marriage, usually it’s only interest that accursed during marriage, funds from a sale that started prior to divorce or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:27 PM
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Yes while they are married but only those funds from the appreciation would be marital property not the house itself. Also, that generally only happens if the non-owning spouses funds were used towards the mortgage or or maintain or improve the house. The owning property will very rarely be forced to sell, if anything they would pay out the non-owning party their portion of the appreciated value and that’s it. They aren’t going to be forced to sell the house and get nothing for it; they never ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:14 PM
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Not unless you’re paying into that house and even then it’s a maybe. But it’s not marital property if you’re simply living together. That’s just not how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:49 PM
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Oh yeah then I agree. Parents who treat their 18 year olds like tenants the moment they become “adults” annoy the hell out of me. Like the kid makes minimum wage and had no bills yesterday, you’re gonna kick them out or charge them half your rent just because you can?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:07 PM
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Your children will be getting that house though, assuming you own it. I have other issues with making offspring pay rent and expenses as soon as they are 18. Sure charge them a couple hundred, but you as their parent know their financial situation and shouldn’t stress them out to get a job so they can pay you. If by “completed education” you mean college, then yeah, they should contribute as adults with jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:02 PM
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This! Just thinking from a legal standpoint the person that owns this house premarriage, will own the house post marriage, if it comes to that. They will have 100% decision making power over what happens to it. If a non-owning party pays into it, then the couple married, that non-owning party now has a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:00 PM
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This is not how common law marriage works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:56 PM
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Common law marriage is only in a few states and it’s requires a high standard to prove: one of them being holding yourself out as a married couple. It’s not just living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:50 PM
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If you buy shit before you’re married it’s not marital property.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:45 PM
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If you buy the home premarriage then it’s not considered a marital asset, if you sell it however, during the marriage, those funds would be marital assets. Actually a better argument for NOT having a partner pay for it. If something goes wrong down the line, they may claim those payments as them owning some stake in the house should the assets need to be split for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:43 PM
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Yet wanting someone to help you pay off your mortgage isn’t a gold digger move? Why can’t he take the money he’s saving on everyday expenses and put that toward his mortgage? It’s his house not mine. In a rental it will be my place for as long as I rent it. Even with a roommate situation, I would have my room that I could decorate as I pleased, Id have a lease that gave me rights. And I wouldn’t be having a romantic relationship with my landlord. The situation is not nearly the same: the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:37 PM
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He has to pay these mortgage payments regardless. This situation is him already owning the house, not buying it for the couple to move into. The down payment has already been taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:24 PM
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They still face similar societal pressures that are just placed on women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:22 PM
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Because it’s definitely a power dynamic here. He’s getting his mortgage paid for and there is not guarantee we will stay together. If there was, wouldn’t he just add me onto the title and mortgage and deed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:06 AM
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Half of what expenses? Like the mortgage? if I’m not on the deed and title to the house then I’m not paying the mortgage, I will cover all of the utilities and other bills though, I’ll buy food, subscriptions, household items that we use. Are you talking about repairs and stuff? And I’m not making up fights: in a realm where a partner asks another one to pay toward something they own, usually it’s always a gift or you offer to pay it back. In this case, it’s not gift nor is he paying her back th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:05 AM
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Yes and I’ve said several times that I see no problem with the non-owner party paying all the utilities, subscriptions and food. The person who owns the house can put the extra money he’s saving not paying utilities and pay more on the mortgage. He’s still benefitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:36 AM
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I’m assuming he wants her to move in. Or they want to live together. The owner of the home would be paying the same mortgage, relationship or not. But it’s not going to be the same dynamic as a landlord/tenant relationship. Mainly because most people aren’t fucking their tenants. If she’s late one month he’s not going to charge her late fees, not going to write her up for noise violations. She’s not going to report him to housing commission if he doesn’t get someone fixed for a little too long. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:35 AM
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Not true. Bullies once they’ve established a target tend to seek out that target. That’s why sitting in the library or sitting alone somewhere doesn’t stop the bullying. They follow you because they’ve established they can hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:31 AM
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Nah, boys bully girls too. Usually in ways that are low key kinda meaner than the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:30 AM
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These are examples of why he’s not a landlord. I’m fine paying all of the utilities and such, but I’m not paying his mortgage. If he wants to put the money I pay him for utilities towards his mortgage he’s welcome to do that so long as the utilities stay on. But I’m not about to put money into a house that’s not mine when it’s the house of someone I’m dating. If I’m going to pay someone else’s mortgage I’ll just get a rental on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:29 AM
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Because again, if your girlfriend is late on the rent are you going to kick her out? The legal part of the relationship is already grayed because y’all are dating. He’s not going to behave like a landlord
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:26 AM
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Yes but she wouldn’t be a tenant. She wouldn’t have a lease. She would be living in the home he owns, with no paperwork to show otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:16 PM
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You’ve never been bullied it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:14 PM
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Yes the repairs are a cost you have to take care of yourself, but the mortgage and insurance change month to month and the price would be the same regardless of if the owner was living alone or not. His price isn’t changing just because there’s another person there. It’s definitely not fair to pay into someone’s mortgage when you’re not getting any of the protections of a lease. As I said saveral times, the boyfriends not going to serve his gf with a five day notice to quit if she’s late. He’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:12 PM
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Does it matter? If you’re asking someone to move in and willing to put them on your deed you’re probably on the track to get married. The credit is going to matter anyway. I’m saying, if that’s not the case, then the non-home owning partner should not be paying the mortgage. they can pay other bills, income allowing, but definitely not the mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:56 PM

He would have had to be sued for child support in order to be compelled to pay it. If he’s giving the kids money and time why would the women sue him for support?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:21 PM

There are sooo many women with unfortunate looking partners who are also just shitty partners. Personality can get you and keep you in that doorway. Don’t underestimate the power of compatibility and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:20 PM
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I find her slightly below average. She a little mousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:51 PM

The lesbians having high divorce rates is often attributed by lesbians moving at super speed. Whereas gay couples take things slow and marry at lower rates if they marry at all. Really, the issue might be the pressure women have to even get married in the first place, causing them to want to rush into situations with people that might not be right for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:44 PM

Are they sleeping with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:42 PM
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No get average what? My point is looks don’t really matter here. The person for her is going to tell her she’s beautiful and not that “she’s average and will do”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:34 PM
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Because you don’t know her well enough to make sure she was never a bad person to begin with. Oh so legally you just want to be able to bail when you want to and know she can’t do anything about it. You don’t want her to have any leverage in the relationship, nor do you want to have any real ties to it? Legally speaking she’s your wife? What would he complicated? The fact that she could make you get custody or have to see your kid? And j didn’t say they. I said the kid. If the kid asks you to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:29 PM
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Okay what if your kid wants to come live with you? How can you make sure of anything when you’re not there? Also at this point I see no reason why this woman has to be foreign. If you’re not going to see the kid anyway, why not just get an American woman that would be happy with this arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:22 PM
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I don’t know if you see how incredibly selfish you’re being. Or planning on being. This is totally unneeded, why not be close to your kid so you can spend time with them more than once a month. If you need that much rest, putting 100% of the childcare on someone else should seem unfair to you. What if she needs rest? What if she wants to see her husband? You’re kind of planning on taking over two peoples lives and then doing the bare minimum for them. Outside of paying how do you plan on helping…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:18 PM
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But like…why? Do you have a particularly good life? Do you think this kid will when it’s father couldn’t ever be bothered with it? Why can’t you just move to that country, or move them to this country? There are alternatives to: see them every few months. Even if you wanted to live apart, you could do that while being geographically close.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:10 PM
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So you don’t even want to raise the kid? Why even have kids just to be a stranger to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:04 PM
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So, I don’t understand. Why don’t you want to be in even the same country as your wife? You want to marry someone, get them pregnant and then just go live out your life on your own? Without this woman you married? What’s the point? You can just hire a surrogate and have a baby that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:02 PM
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Are you also going to be celibate the entire time too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:00 PM
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Oh no, I mean what if she wants to like, actually he with her partner. Especially if there’s no reason for you guys to be separated other than you don’t want to be. Again, will you expect her to be celibate while you’re away? Even if she’s with her family she might actually want romantic love ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:53 PM
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Yes but would they continued raising the child, or do a good job raising the child if they know you’re not going to check? What if they actually want to you know, fall in love, have sex, or actually spend time with their partner? Do you expect her to be celibate this entire time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:45 PM
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See this is the reaction that “average women” would enjoy hearing. Not “you’re average so you deserve average” but appreciating the beauty she has instead of comparing her to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:35 PM
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Seth Rogan had low key always been kind of hot not gonna lie. He’s funny and owns his personality, he’s a little crass in an approachable kinda way. 10/10 could get it lol. Hell, even Jonah Hill is looking kinda good now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:34 PM
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Before my boyfriend I faked it almost every single time. It had been years since I’d had sex by the time my bf and I finally reached that step, and in that time I really learned a lot about my Demi sexuality and my own sexual expression. I think I’d had three orgasms total before him. Now my bf is dedicated to making me have one at least once a week. Sometimes I don’t get to there but we have an agreement that I’ll never fake it for his ego, because then he can’t fix it or help me fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:32 PM
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Tell that to Mary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:23 PM
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Is he my landlord or my boyfriend? Is he going to serve me a five day notice if I’m late?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:18 PM
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I don’t need to live with him then. I will pay for all of the utilities and food and cleaning services, things I would do anyway: but I am not putting money towards my boyfriends mortgage while having zero of the protections that come with being a tenant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:18 PM
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I mean, think about it, you’re a person from a poorer country being given infusions of cash, all on the pretext that you care for a child the father never checks on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:54 PM
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What’s the point of continuing your line if you don’t know how that child is being raised? What if the woman passes the child off to another family and pockets the money, then vanishes before your next visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:41 PM
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That’s not the point they are making; if you breakup and live in A rental, both names are on the lease and both have claim to the property. One person can’t just throw the other out as a tresspasser on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:40 PM
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But he even said to charge her market rent, not half the mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:39 PM
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Then don’t have your girlfriend pay anything toward the mortgage. It will be clear that she has no claim to ownership then. But if I move in with my partner, into a house he owns, I would expect it to feel like our home and not his home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:38 PM
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Most girlfriends pay rent: most women contribute to their shared living arrangements financially. No one is going to walk out for being asked to pay rent. I would, however, decline an invitation to pay my partners mortgage if I don’t also get equity. At that point he’s a landlord. If I don’t pay rent one month will he start eviction proceedings? Will I have to put on maintenance request? If he comes On to me one day do I have a right to sue him for abusing his position over me? No. He’s my boyfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:36 PM
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He already owns the house; his cost of living would be the same whether or not she lives with him. Renting is different because there’s price variability and it’s inherently more flexible on a yearly basis,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:30 PM
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Why? What would be the purpose of her buying her own home when one partner already owns property they live in. Unless he wants to rent his place out and they can rent a place together it makes no sense for her to go buy something on her own even if she has the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:29 PM
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Why am I helping my boyfriend build equity when I get nothing in return? I will pay for utilities, food, cleaning services, but I’m not paying his mortgage unless my name is also on the title and deed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:26 PM
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You mean you’re not neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:22 PM

No they do, but I’ve also had guys call me ugly simply for my skintone. Preferences can make people view those without them as undesirable and ugly. Do you think all short guys are ugly? Ugly women do exist, but without visual proof then it’s just subjective evidence that a woman YOU thought was ugly was with a man you thought was more attractive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:24 PM
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Why are you okay with making it harder for other men to date in their countries versus actually bettering yourself here? There are more reasons for a woman to want you in her life than there are for need you. Why not focus on being the type of partner someone wants around, regardless of financial success, versus someone who is needed for survival?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:21 PM

Stop equating fat to ugly, first of all. Fat can also be a bonus point for some women because there are men whose main requirement for a woman is that she be big. Fat does not mean ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:11 PM

Men will fuck anyone if they are desperate enough and it’s not a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:10 PM

But isn’t their experience anecdotal and biased? It might be a woman YOU think is ugly, but really isn’t,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:09 PM

Sold a bunch of pieces is not “beginning stages” most starving artists are still trying to sell stuff. If he’s selling art he’s probably well connected and not starving at all, he probably just has limited disposable income: which he probably doesn’t need because the art world has parties galore where you can eat and drink for free. It seems we need to define “starving artist” because what you’re describing is a new artist that’s growing in popularity. Which means he is currently at least, art-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:35 AM
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There’s so much wrong here. If he’s an average income and looks guy with above average height is he still average? What if he works 9-5? Less? What do you mean she “deserves”? Neither one of them did anything to look a certain way. No one deserves anything based on looks alone. We all deserve to have easy lives and have access to whatever based on the sheer fact that not a single one of us agreed to be here. Looks don’t make you more or less deserving. If a hot woman go to know you and liked you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:32 AM

Dear god please use paragraphs! But to your question, art can and usually is extremely competitive: that’s the main reason it’s so hard to make money doing it: the talent ceiling for being considered good is extremely high. Depending on what your medium is, there’s more chance for competition : fashion for instance. But, it depends. What’s his end goal? Is he starving so he can save money to put on an exhibit? Is he trying to build his portfolio so that he can apply to an artist-in-residence pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:28 AM
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I think the men here are having issues getting partners because they change how they treat their partners, even their LTRs, based on their looks. (Or they would). What does “deserve average” even mean? Is there a standard that average men must stay at? What do average men deserve?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:46 AM
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Yeah because her other alternative is starving to death, sex trafficking or marrying someone there and being poor. These women are doing the exact same thing that you guys are complaining about women here doing: dating men that can give them more. Or at least something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:35 AM

My brother in Christ get a non-denominational therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:46 AM
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If you have enough money for IVF you have enough money to put your kids in recreational programs where they can get positive male role models. Plus, there are family members, friends. The single motherhood statistic is mainly from women that are single mothers not by choice. The issue comes from them struggling financially and having to parent alone with only nine months notice. A woman choosing to keep a baby after getting pregnant by her bf/hookup is very different than a woman making the deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:38 AM
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I mean…yeah you still need to be likable. But I was assuming the man you were talking about was likable as a person. Able to keep roof over head + not violent does not equal likable. Outside of being poor why would a woman want a partner who wanted to do the bare minimum for her? And you also gotta realize the demographics here. The easily impressed women aren’t swarming Reddit usually. Well, some are, but y’all don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:36 PM
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There are plenty of women here that men with less can go impress. Men here want a woman with a certain kind of look though, without having to give that woman the lifestyle she would want. All men here need to do is date in their pay range. So many women would be thrilled for a guy to just ask them out on any kind of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:32 PM
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Yeah. I am in a very high earning field and I’ve noticed the dating trends here are very polar. Either my colleagues are dating super wealthy men Or they are dating men they see as having “potential”. The men with potential seem to all be very supportive, driven men. When she needs him, he’s there. Even though they aren’t matched financially, it seems like they all have plans to get close. Matching her, at our level, is not possible outside of the industry, but they focus more on making sure the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:30 PM
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The men that are struggling are doing absolutely nothing to attract a partner. Let’s be real here, a man was already working his job when he meets a woman. Usually, he’s not changing his job or working more hours specifically for her, he was doing it before and he would work the same amount with or without her. As a woman, if I’m considering dating someone, I had to ask myself “do I trust this man to take care of me if I get sick, when I get pregnant.” My life will change when my boyfriend and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:24 PM
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Women needed men to survive up until recent history. We couldn’t work, couldn’t have property, hell women couldn’t get bank accounts without their husband permission in all 50 states until like the 80s. The further back you go, the less women were treated like adults. It was commonplace for a woman to get married not knowing what sex was or what was supposed to happen. Women and what they could do was highly regulated. Even when women could go into the workforce they were often fired once they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:01 PM
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I once had this guy try to chat me up while his friend made moves on my friends. Both of them were attractive for the time, however it was a very particular look. This type of guy wasn’t for me, so when he trie for talk to me I was just polite, chatting with him for a bit and while our friends go to know one another. It’s was clear this guy thought I was the “lesser” option but he was trying to get me out of the way so his friend could talk to mine. Instead of entertaining him, I went and chatte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:51 PM
1

What about your parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:43 PM

That’s definitely not true and we have like 1000s of years worth of war that show how willing men are to put aside egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:36 PM
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What scenario do you want debated? I’ve seen people give many answers to your questions and you don’t seem to be happy with them. If all men were to vanish after the fallout of having planes crash, cars crash, boats, what have you. The women in the military and police forces globally would issue martial law in order to attempt to control the chaos. The first priority would be making sure as many necessary infrastructures as possible stay functional. Now, while men here love to say women simply w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:23 PM
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Not every woman is walking out with a made up face. If we took away thinks like eyeshadow and colored lipstick, makeup can be very barebones and not noticeable. Most women do not know how to expertly contour their faces so that it changes shape. Most people you see doing that are beauty gurus trying to sell Product. Most women cannot expertly put on a whole face of makeup. Nor do they have the time to do it every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:56 PM
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They aren’t downplaying it. They are ignoring it hoping to benefit off that hot person somehow. If they can’t benefit then the halo fades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:53 PM
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I’m simply pointing out that it is socially acceptable for men to wear makeup. No one notices the makeup on newscasters, actors, models, etc. that level of makeup is easily done by a man at home. Even gay men that wear subtle makeup do it without going for a “made-up” look. There are enough men wearing some form of makeup that there are companies out there marketing it to straight men. It’s mostly marketed as tinted skin care but, you can totally use makeup in a way that’s not negatively noticea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:52 PM
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I have a feeling either the girls not as ugly as you think or the guys not as hot as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:44 PM
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Straight men wear makeup every day. Any man you see on tv has on makeup. There are literally brands dedicated to making “makeup” for men. Just go out and get some tinted moisturizer and put it on your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:41 PM
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Have you actually seen this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:40 PM
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No it’s not. Being hot doesn’t make people have good personality, you might get chances at meeting people more often. However, usually those with poor personalities and good looks have very conditional friend groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:40 PM
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Dating will not fix your personality. You need to address it yourself and seek to fix it on your own. Your partner is not there to fix you or be the answer to all your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:38 PM
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I also take so much issue with the men here that talk about the SAHM life as being easy and glamorous, while also constantly complaining about how hard they have to work to just be able to afford a house and food. Then complaining that their wife needs to spend and buy things. Hmm, you know what would make that struggle a lot easier? Maybe not having an adult dependent that has zero need to not be working at all. why are you working so much if your partner then has to be frugal? If I gotta scale…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:37 PM
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Cleaning services are about 50 an hour minimum unless you get a special. To do a quick clean for my main areas is about 45 an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:28 PM
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If you don’t have enough money to get by then maybe worrying about who is doing the chores should be lower on your list. If two adults with no kids are struggling, they need to readjust how they are living and get better jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:23 PM
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Oh yeah I agree. Im mostly talking about for people that think that casual sex makes people worse partners. If you’re worried about someone being too promiscuous for you, cheating or whatever, I think looking at how long they’ve dated “seriously” if you’re a person that does not engage in casual sex, May help ease some worries. But in the end, I don’t think casual sex is a big indicator of relationship success. I’d have more issues with a history of cheating or other problematic behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:25 PM
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What do you mean? Just because you got broken up with doesn’t mean you have to harbor some feelings. Normal people move on. That’s the healthy thing to do. Plus there’s no guarantee she actually wants any of those guys back. Do men just stay focused on their exes that dump them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:16 PM
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The entire narrative is just parroted wrong here. Sure there are people that have views on sex that are more casual who then try to seek relationships that aren’t casual. I think frequency matters more than quantity though. You could date and marry a virgin who only wants to have sex once a month. And you could date a “promiscuous” person who has taken the time to evaluate their life, shown growth and a healthy respect for the act by not having casual sex for long periods of time. Also,50 is a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:13 PM
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Versus “she had nothing to compare you to, so anyone would have done so long as they met a few basic qualifications?” There’s a lot of room between that and the “town slut” narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:05 PM
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More of a “why do people need to see me with a man in order to be nice” commentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:26 AM
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Low value men, to me, are ones that are angry, racist, violent; really any qualities that I feel are morally unacceptable for anyone to display. A man that’s not attractive to me isn’t low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:49 AM
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Well that’s a good thing…I guess. Lol we did get a couple of old women at the cafe today mention “how nice it was we could just date and no one cares”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:16 AM
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This is kinda of assholish to be honest. You’re at a career fair, talk to the kid, see what he wants to do and give him some advice. You’re going to find candidates. The one that really want a to work there will make sure you see their resume, even if you “wasted” five minutes looking at someone else piece of paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:59 AM
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It’s weird how the guy you’re with impacts how people treat you and react to you. My bf and I were walking through this super cute downtown in this very bougie area, when I walked around on my own earlier this week it was kinda lukewarm in terms of friendliness. With him with me people are smiling, waving, someone at the bar randomly started up a conversation with us. People just seem to be nicer when he’s with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:58 AM
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Because hormonal bc messes with your libido. Honestly just…hormone fluctuations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:46 AM
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In reality, everyone wants no responsibilities. None of us chose to be here and having to work for most of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:41 AM
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What does she watch on those platforms? Those are her actual hobbies. For instance, my TikTok is cooking, books, some financial influencers, dogs and maybe a couple style pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:37 AM
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We want to try your food too. We can share and try more things that way. Even when I’m with my friends eating dinner, we won’t order the same things because we know we are just going to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:34 AM
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It has to be done well. Most colors look nice if they are done professionally and not done by the person at home. Has to be shaped right, maybe mattifed or something to give it the right look. I had ultra glossy almond shaped black nails and got lots of compliments on them, even from random guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:31 AM
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That’s still not organically. You’re not going to never indicate that you’re interested and then suddenly be in a relationship. Someone always has to approach first: ask the other out on a date or something. And if someone here is in high school they should not be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:46 PM
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That’s not the norm in those areas. Teen/early pregnancy is extremely common. If not, there’s often an element of having to care for younger siblings, young family members because parents are unable to fully provide on their own. But the socialization is pretty common, someone is always having a party or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:35 PM
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Eh yes and no. Poorer people usually work more for less money. In the case of the gangs, the job just involves being in places where there are usually people (to buy drugs). They aren’t getting women simply because they can be social, it’s because they also have power and can provide protection, money and of course, drugs. Which also helps with socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:30 PM
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Maybe not, it depends on if she wants to stay in the trailer park or move up. Some people don’t see the upward mobility as a good thing. And it’s likely she wouldn’t even be comfortable going to a mid-level restaurant: she’s def going to red lobster if she wants to keep her current lifestyle. Assuming she wants out of the trailer park, Billy Bitcoin will do just fine. But also, it’s unlikely that Billy would even be able to take her anywhere if she’s stuck in the trailer park mindset, no matter …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:27 PM
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You’re confusing “easily impressed” with “mutual interest”. For instance a trailer park girl will be impressed by like PF Changs dinner, whereas the girl from the suburbs would see that as a casual, cheap date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:21 PM
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That’s literally how it works. A girl from the hood will be impressed by a man with a car who can take her to Cheesecake Factory whenever she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:19 PM
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Poor people have always had the most children. People in poverty tend to be the ones that get pregnant and can’t afford corrective measures, that compiled with poor sexual health education and a lack of access to birth control means they will have kids. As for the gang members: in those areas those are the people with money and influence who are able to provide “better lives”. In those areas being connected to someone in a gang may provide safety, stability and some level of comfort: despite the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:18 PM

But no one really engages with you. You just get a bit of placating because your posts are a bit unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:40 AM
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That’s what I figured.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:39 AM
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Because sex needs vulnerability and trust. If something is going bad, why would you continue to put yourself in that position with them? How could you even enjoy it if you’re worried about what your partner is doing elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:18 PM
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But it’s much different than complaining about makeup as a whole. It’s not at all the same thing, you should watch the video and actually listen to what she says.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:16 PM
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Have you worn makeup? Do you actually know what the “no makeup” look even involves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:48 PM
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Yes, I lived with a flight attendant and makeup was an actual part of her uniform. In the corporate world, the better you look a woman the more you get put in front of clients. The issues come in when it’s not an “official” requirement but you notice when you’re the only one not getting client time. It’s very valid for a client to say “she doesn’t look out together, I don’t want her representing me, or I don’t want her on this deal” or something like that, because female appearances are judged w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:48 PM
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No they don’t. Some women wear probably some tinted moisturizer, which is not makeup as much as lotion is makeup. Maybe some mascara, but that is not changing what you look like at all. There are plenty of women that only wear makeup for “special occasions”. Hell, I used to only wear makeup for dates. And I’d always slowly increase the amount of makeup, so when they first saw me it was a more natural look. I have a few friends that do the full glam thing. But being able to do a full face of make…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:41 PM
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No, in relationships that are healthy that’s not how sex work. Sex isn’t a treat I give my boyfriend when he behaves. It’s something we mutually desire from one another. The affection and the closeness a big part of what makes it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:39 PM
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Everyone doesn’t wear the same level of makeup. My everyday look is another woman’s version of “full face”. I don’t get told I look tired when I don’t have on a full face of makeup, but I also take care of my skin without makeup. That’s the main reason people look different is because they neglect their skincare and their skin suffers from it. But, as I said, there are several careers where makeup is an expectation only for women. Even though men where makeup in other industries all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:37 PM
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It depends.. my everyday look is subtle you cant tell. Just evens my skintone. If I’m going for full glam, it’s obvious that my eyelids aren’t naturally sparky gold. Nor are my lips naturally deep red.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:33 PM
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I don’t think people realize that it doesn’t even have to be everyday. Or something you do. It’s an expectation for women, especially women in certain jobs to look a certain way. Even in the corporate work, if you’re client facing an unofficial part of your “uniform” will be makeup. Several airlines require their female flight attendants to wear makeup and heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:32 PM
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Yes, she’s also not complaining about wearing makeup. She is complaining about people feeling the need to permanently change their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:04 PM
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You can be okay with how you look naturally and want to enhance your looks. But she’s also telling people who want to get surgery to correct looks to use other, less permanent methods. You can wear makeup and not think you’re ugly. I usually wear it to make my skin more even and glowy. I don’t have acne or anything, just some dark spots. Makeup helps me cover them (when I want to) without resorting to like a chemical peel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:56 PM
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What???? You’re saying a video is proof of something it’s not. She is talking about plastic surgery, not makeup and telling people to be okay with how they look naturally. And that there are other ways to fix things (like using makeup) before getting surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:00 PM
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Did you watch that entire video?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:47 PM
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I want you to explain the benefits in details. Is it just the opportunity to date and get married? What do they get from it that they can’t get while women are financially independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:46 PM
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I’m asking you what other benefits do men get from having women be economic and socially dependent. Why is it good for them, outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:35 PM
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Can you show me a video please?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:35 PM
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I said outside of sex. Are there any reasons outside of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:18 PM
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How is it good for men. I’d like to hear what parts, outside of sex make it good setup for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:15 PM
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I can’t speak to your experiences. However, those two things don’t necessarily have to be contradictory. You can be irked by the fact that there is an expectation to wear makeup, thus making you have to always wear makeup, while enjoying the way makeup makes you look. Just like men sometimes hate the expectation that they have to try to be successful and make charming and work to get to that place, while enjoying the benefits money and success and charm bring. You’re happy with what it gives you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:52 PM
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Someone still has to instigate a romantic relationship there. It just doesn’t form out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:49 PM
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The women that enjoy wearing makeup aren’t complaining about being expected to wear makeup. They are complaining about not being able to go even one day without it, and without someone claiming they look tired or sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:48 PM
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Why is having women socially or economically dependent on men a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:22 PM
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He already differentiated between meeting through mutual. Even if you’re collaborating someone has to approach and bring up the prospect of a date. If there’s NEVER a good time a OP suggests, then even being partners in a group setting wouldn’t help with the issue of not being able to approach. He even went as far as saying there wasn’t a good time even when mutual attraction has been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:13 PM
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…thats impossible though. Someone has to instigate in order for conversation to start. You don’t just look at someone and instantly get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:14 PM
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How do they meet organically if there is no time Or place to approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:12 PM
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Now I’m recovering with a stark reminder that I am no longer 22 on the form of a hangover.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:36 PM
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You’re not getting special treatment. You’re getting a partner that likes you as a person. If you really thought that then you wouldn’t be upset by women, according to you, leaving when there’s no money or status. You weren’t special to her, why would she stay? You didn’t have anything to give her besides money or status, because otherwise you weren’t special. Staying without it would be giving you special treatment. But also, it seems like you don’t treat the women you do get as special to you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:32 PM
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So, you don’t want to fix the problem? Just complain about something that might be entirely self-inflicted?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:23 PM
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You’re obviously not avenge to the person you’re dating. If you’re dating women that think you’re nothing special then I think we have found the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:18 PM
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And you don’t see how you can be special to someone? Without having to be special to everyone else. And do you maybe see why perhaps a woman who you view as good enough for you, wouldn’t want to date someone that didn’t think she was special? You’re basically saying “eh, my girlfriend is alright. She’s nothing special.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:08 PM
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All factors that impact your looks and socioeconomic status determine how you’re treated in the dating market. For instance, fat women. Men here misconstrue a fat woman saying “I want a man that makes me feel special” as her automatically disqualifying all average and below men. Not sure why. Do average men think they are unable to make a woman feel special simply for the fact that they are average in looks or income? Do you only feel special if your partner is above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:03 PM
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Nah man. I’m a black woman. Half the shit I do is considered aggressive and confrontational. When I was dating I definitely had to be a lot more Self-aware than some of my friends. Because things I said or did tended to be heavily misconstrued sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:58 PM
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That is patently untrue. Women everywhere just are living their lives. Not all women where makeup, dress stylishly, or workout all the time or anything like that. There are lots of women who are just happy being who they are. And don’t see their actions as anything besides living their lives . Most women know that most men aren’t special on the surface. Just like most women aren’t special on the surface. Your partner should make you feel special though. Man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:53 PM
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Nah, not more than her. You just have to be able to provide the minimum level of support and security she needs. That may look different depending on who the woman is. Not all women are instagram models that want to flex their new Birkin. The average salary in the US I’d like 50k, I think the median womens salary was was 39k. The odds are not stacked against men at all. That front desk receptionist making 30k would be thrilled to date a man making 50 or 60k. You don’t have to be a millionaire or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:53 PM

There are plenty of women who would be thrilled just to get a nice, loving, consistent partner. Do those women have the look guys here want? No. The women that put in extra work into themselves want a man that’s doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:39 PM

Because men here put them together. I don’t see this in real life. Usually a man that’s expecting a certain caliber of woman knows that he has expectations too. But men here really think they can have a partner that has zero expectations for them, while having tons of expectations for that woman. I think it stems a bit from not seeing “women’a tasks” as important or as work. They don’t have any expectations, it’s just cooking, cleaning and taking care of the house and another full person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:37 PM

I disagree. But let’s say it’s true. Men do the exact same thing now. Some men here say that women’s entire system will be ruined by AI girlfriends because they say that men basically don’t need their partners to be human, just human shaped and agreeable. It’s always “I want a real woman to just like me for me and not what I provide.” Then the next breath is “this woman has to be skinny, pretty, endlessly horny for me, cook, clean and not really expect me to do anything extra for her.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:31 PM
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Women do love their partners. Have you experienced a woman leaving you for not being able to provide? Was she over 25? Because if you’re expecting a 19 year old to be happy to struggle with you then that’s your first mistake. There are so many women who I know where at one point in their lives they have a man with “potential” a chance and he didn’t do his part. Most women I know work full time and their partners work. They split bills, they work together because they actually like one another. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:19 PM
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Or they are thinking about sitting on his lap. Don’t blame them it’s a nice lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:05 PM
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It’s a hivemind, we all are thinking the same thing. No need for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:00 PM

If the excess spending is reduced to just the necessities then jobs will be reduced. Things will go up in price because there will be fewer people making them. There will be fewer jobs, which will in turn lead to less money going into circulation because people aren’t spending. We saw it happen during the pandemic. And, if you’re working to get only the minimum then that means you should still have more time to be home. If you need to work long hours to get the minimum then you’re doing it wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:58 PM
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I go sit on his lap. Or if he’s doing work at home or something I’ll come up behind him and rub his back or his arm. Baby got those good biceps. Usually though, some kissing and a “I really really missed you today” and he knows what’s up. We honestly try to get me to initiate more, because I’m still shy about it. But if we are in bed I do the old “can you rub my lower back”. He catching on though because now he is taking great pleasure in making me ask for it with actual words.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:13 PM
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Seriously , you look at a press on wrong and it’s game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:57 PM

Isn’t that stat for young adults only? Literally everything is bs. If men don’t spend money and women don’t spend money the economy dies, stuff get s’more expensive and the problems start again. Now though, even the basics of what you’re considering “not bs” are more expensive. In my mind, if we are living frugally there’s no reason for my man to be working so hard out of the house. Be at home more at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:55 PM
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Oh yeah I pointed that out in my reply. But y’all really still getting sticker press-ons?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:50 PM

Yet the average man is still getting into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:48 PM

Most men get partners. Regardless of the fact that most men cannot afford to be a sole provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:46 PM
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Is it the same in Europe or places where they don’t usually cut?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:19 PM

Why do your girlfriends not like you guys as people? Men are more than sex toys and providers. Plus, based on just facts: most men can’t be the sole provider in the US and the orgasm gaps means they would not even be good sex toys half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:12 PM
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Technically my boyfriend did. But I don’t know it counts as “bagging” since I was already on board to going home with him: you know, since that’s where my stuff is lol. Now, I tagged along with him on a work trip because it’s an area I’ve never been to and I can work remote. Didn’t have much to do today AND he had a short day so I explored then day drank at the spa for a bit, then went out with him for happy hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:10 PM
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Only fake nails that were done poorly or need to be filled would get caught/break. And if your back hair is breaking a gel tip or gel-x nail, it’s 100% going to break a real nail. Now if your girl wears press-ons that she does herself at home then yeah, they are breaking if you look at the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:07 PM
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Absolutely not, my dog was here first. If they don’t like dogs then he isn’t high value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:24 AM

This is an entire ass lie. Nails feel great.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:18 AM

Thirsty Thursday was a success .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:17 AM
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Men say that literally all the time .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:34 PM
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It’s so weird to see how many guys here claim they don’t care about fat people but then those men constantly just talk about fat people. They are fat: you don’t want them, they don’t want to change their bodies so you can want them, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:33 PM
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That’s what you implied though, by saying you’d tell her what was what, then she would exclude herself by dating out. The difference between me and what you’re suggesting is that I started out multidating. My now boyfriend and I both were seeing other people. I just didn’t tell him when I stopped seeing other people because 1. It didn’t matter and 2. I never made a conscious choice to stop seeing others: we just spent so much time together that it was logistically impossible to see other people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:31 PM
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No, you’re misunderstanding. Multi dating yes, but being told flat out “I am going to see other people, but I want you to wait until I figure out if you’re what I want” is not what happens. Women are not sitting around waiting for a guy who they know is wanting to see other people, who also demands the woman doesn’t. It will never happen. And you want this woman to be committed to you for at least a year while you go date others? That’s insane and will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:32 AM
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So why would she be exclusive to you if you’re not exclusive to her? First year!! Wait you want her to date only you for a year while openly telling her you’re seeing other people? That’s ludicrous. Like kinda insane you’d ever think that would work. Only desperate women would be anywhere near agreeable to this set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:01 AM
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Sort of both. We started out both openly seeing other people. He was not aware I was not seeing anyone else until after asking to be exclusive. I see nothing wrong with both parties multidating so long as exclusivity hasn’t been established. I think if it’s meant to be you will naturally gravitate toward one another. We spent the majority of our time together before exclusivity. Enjoying one another’s company was priority for both of us, despite busy schedules and me not being able to be intimat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:01 AM
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So, what’s to stop her from also multidating? Why not just date casually until you find someone who mutually wants to spend time with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:19 AM
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You know rang Gabrielle union has a lot of money right. She can afford nanny’s, childcare and her own finances plus some broke dudes if she wanted to. Plus, if you read what she said, she specifically stated that she felt insecure depending totally on her partner again. She’s choosing to go 50/50. And when you have millions, does it really Fucking matter who is paying? They aren’t looking at those damn bills anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:11 AM
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That’s so weird. Especially for a Jewish guy to have that preference. It just doesn’t sit right with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:06 AM
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Him not going suggest that he lives in the US. That bill about to be 10K easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:04 AM
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He did something about it….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:02 AM
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Your solution to hypergamy is just hypergamy in a different font.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:01 AM
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How would this guard against hypergamy? The woman you want might feel like you’re not giving her the attention she needs and leave for someone she feels is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:58 AM
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I sort of had an experience like this with my recent relationship. We both started out multidating, however. Being demi meant I couldn’t give him a specific timeline for sex. Because I got burned in the past, I had a hard rule that I would not ask for exclusivity unless I felt ready to have sex with them. He was seeing another woman for a while, but it was definitely only for sex. I stopped seeing other men about two month in. Just never told him that I’d stopped. He asked for exclusivity one da…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:57 AM
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They can just tell the kids they are married and that’s they didn’t have a wedding if it matters that much. Get a ring, the whole shebang. I think it’s more important that the parents like one another. My parents weren’t married; but I had friends whose parents were. One couple in particular clearly hated one another. My dad would come in for important events (I spent summers and every holiday with him) they were in awe that my parents weren’t married because they got along so well. Main thing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:31 AM
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It’s just so difficult to put so much on him. Or rather let him have so much. It’s weird for me to be this vulnerable with someone. And he is very good with money. I pay all the necessities and save a bit, but we both did very expensive grad programs. He went for practically free so I have much more debt than him. He’s very focused on helping me get my finances together, I think because I said I wouldn’t move in or anything with him if there was a huge disparity. But he’s being insistent that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:28 AM

Update: he took my texts personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:22 PM

Dating apps are designed to make it easy for women to want to use in order to entice men to pay for them. If the men (who are most likely to pay) have an easy time then they won’t feel the need to buy premium subscriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:21 PM
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I’m just pointing out that the birth certificate is not useless. The acknowledgment of paternity also does not have to be court ordered, you can sign it at the hospital following birth. That is what allows unmarried men to sign birth certificates early on, not the court order. Court order usually come when there is a fight for custody and/or child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:17 PM
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It does not have to be. So long as he is present at the birth, he can just sign the voluntary acknowledgment of paternity at the hospital. Usually they have them on hand and someone from social services will act as a witness. Now, if he’s not on the birth certificate then he has to establish rights. But really, whoever is on the birth certificate as father can get rights to the child. But to sign the birth certificate you have to sign the acknowledgment first. So the birth certificate is not mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:08 PM
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Small, I will ask him to open a jar for me, or ask for help fixing something or putting furniture together. I let him take point (at his request) when planning trips, dates etc. Big, he offered to take on a good chunk of my finances with the stipulation that I use 80% of mine to aggressively pay back my loans. We both like being in control, my challenge was giving it up. Letting him be my safety net, while also spending the bulk of my money and not really having a back up is terrifying. And bigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:26 PM
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I don’t think so. As long as there are pics of parents together. Like what about couples that get married at the justice of the peace and don’t have a huge wedding, are the children of those couples wondering why there aren’t any wedding photos? And if a couple was so inclined, they could always have a party that looked like A wedding, take photos, just don’t get officially married. Marriage means absolutely nothing to kids except for what we tell them it means ,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:52 PM
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That’s not really a bucket list thing, gonna be honest. Having sex with a six foot guy isn’t really seen as something to check off a list. It’s just a nice trait for a guy to have
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:50 PM
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Marriage has little to do with child custody. It’s all about whose names are on the birth certificate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:11 PM
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Kids are bothered by their parents living separately and not being together. They don’t care about marriage as a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:10 PM
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No, they thought they did. Everyone you date don’t going to be perfect for you. And sometimes you don’t realize that until later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:36 PM
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Oh! Mostly because people here seem to treat settling as “not getting exactly what you want”, really I think they mean (but don’t want to say) not getting physically what you want. They see it as, if a woman dated someone hotter in the past, she’s settling automatically if she dates anyone not as hot. They fail to realize that relationships take more than looks. For a lot of guys here that’s all they care about: personality and values don’t matter to them so long as she is willing to do whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:35 PM
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Being over six feet isn’t a magical thing for men. I know you guys want to think it is. But there are a lot of men 6+ that are single because they are ugly and/or have terrible personalities and don’t have anything going for them. There are lots of tall men that struggle to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:22 PM
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What do you mean the connections? I don’t see those people as settling , for instance, they are just making stupid decisions and trying to be “honorable”. They wouldn’t have been with that person under any other circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:21 PM
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No no, no one’s settling with someone they hate unless it’s an arranged marriage. Even in my example, they like one another as people, but if a better option had come along earlier they would have taken it. My bf was not my ideal man physically or emotionally. He’s a cocky, arrogant, kind of an elitist asshole at times, but he’s honestly weirdly perfect for me because he makes me think better about myself in ways I wouldn’t if I’d dated someone else. Physically I thought he was too much of a gym…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:08 PM
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Yes but I’m talking about more why women file for divorce more. Men just don’t have the incentive too. If it was up to him to also file, divorces would be halved and cheating would triple. There would be no outs, no remedies. And the men would bank on that fact while complaining that his wife won’t ALSO sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:07 PM
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It happens very very often. You can see it in the money talks too. How many guys here say they wouldn’t date career woman? She’s going to be too busy. Too something. It all goes back to a woman needing to appear dependent to a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:03 PM
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Are you a woman? It’s super common from older generations. Hell, even now, I was told by my friends to let my bf do things for me from Time to time so he could feel manly. And that I shouldn’t be so independent. And it Fucking worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:59 PM
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That’s not settling at all. You didn’t settle for anything, you made a choice. Settling for a person is this: Let’s say you meet a woman. You both want kids that grow up in a stable home with married and loving parents. You and this woman meet, date but don’t have any spark. You get along fine, there’s nothing special, but neither of you can find anyone else and you decide to get married in order to have kids. There’s like but no love. So you settled for the best you could get.Attraction wise, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:58 PM
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No, women are told that all the time. One common saying back in the day was to “hide your flaws until after the wedding”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:54 PM
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They tell women that too. Don’t act too smart. Don’t be too demanding. Make him feel needed. Don’t be too self-sufficient. I think the issue is we hav extracted personas that the other is supposed to be attracted to and both are fake as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:52 PM
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This is some young people bullshit. You must be like 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:49 PM
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Women divorce more because men will not divorce. Especially if they are in the wrong. Why would they? If they think she will stay then he can have his cake and eat it too. There no incentive for men to divorce unless he is absolutely miserable, but if he had kids, a woman at home that he’s okay with, and a piece or two on the side, why would he ever want to divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:48 PM
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Why do you think it’s settling? Wouldn’t marrying someone that you’re crazy for who might not be a good mother or the best partner also be settling? Why is it only settling in one way? You’re still not getting everything you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:46 PM
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There aren’t enough men over six feet for that to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:41 PM
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No tattoos for me here lol. I don’t think where I am has many tattoo artist they specialize in dark skin. But I’m gonna go to this cool cafe, get some work done and then come back and bug the guy via text until he comes back to the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:33 PM
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Am I going to regret my decision later? Maybe! Will it be worth it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:29 PM
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Oh he’s definitely getting a series of pics from the tub later. I’ll show him what happens when he entertains clients instead of me!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:07 PM
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I know, it’s so rude of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:05 PM
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Haha not today! But we are here for the whole week and I plan on reviving the Thirsty Thursday of my college days. I do have lots of work to do tomorrow though, so I’ll be busy then, I was really just surprised by having almost zero to do today and he’s gone so now I’m bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:38 PM
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Gonna do that too! But when he gets back tonight. I might go to a cafe nearby that looks really good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:36 PM
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Why wouldn’t it? It could help you find people that are in it for a relationship and not quick sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:36 PM
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I did this with my guy. We were not exclusive until bout 4/5 months in. He was seeing other people for a bit, so was I. Eventually I was spending so much time with him that I couldn’t have seen other people even if I wanted to. He was still seeing one other person, though they only hung out in the wee hours of the night. I didn’t mind because he still made me a priority. He was still with me during the day and for dinner; wouldn’t leave my house until maybe midnight at the earlier if he left at …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:02 PM
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I’m on another work trip with my bf. And he had the nerve, the absolute gall, to actually have to work and not be able to spend all day wandering around doing nothing or laying in the room with me. 😤 for real though, I woke up early just to find my meetings canceled because my boss is sick, now I must entertain myself for the day after I do my two hours of work I had left. Im gonna go back to sleep, get my work done, then text him about the hotel tub until he gets to come back. My girlfriend dut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:55 PM
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But it might that’s the point. There’s nothing wrong in trying a new tactic, you should. In this hypothetical we are speaking of, someone he was treated sex casually for probably a while and it’s gotten them nowhere closer to finding a permanent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:32 PM
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You can be okay with casual sex and not need it every time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:49 AM
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What does marriage for kids if the parents would be together anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:48 AM
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But would you be okay with your boss seeing you simply as a thing that’s there to make a profit? Sex just has this negative connotation in that, it should be given freely, (as in without money being exchanged or ulterior motive) but just not to anybody, but it also special and valuable. It’s so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:17 AM
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What if we want to be married? You can have kids and raise them and have the exact same life together without being married too. Children are way more permanent than marriage. If I’m on bc and married then that means I want to have sex without getting pregnant. I don’t know what ask confusing about that. Do you think sex should only be had for procreation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:13 AM
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What if we already had a baby? What if we don’t want to have a baby yet? What if we want to plan our family on a certain schedule? You can be married and not have kids. You’re married because you love one another, if you’re only married for your children then you’re going to be miserable after like 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:04 AM
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What’s the definition of insanity? At some point you have to rework your tactic. And you’re seeing it as withholding sex or holding out on sex, maybe they are genuinely wanting to see what sex is like when you actually connect with someone on a deep level first. And good partners do. The beliefs vary, but a good partner for me wouldn’t be a guy that needs to get laid on the first, second, third date or on any schedule. I waiting to have sex with my bf because I’m Demi and my sexual satisfaction …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:01 AM
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Omg I’m stealing this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:58 AM
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If there was a harem of hot rich men trying to collect women y’all would really be angry. Where are these harems?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:57 AM
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What if I don’t want a baby while married?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:56 AM
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The dumbest reason to get married is because you got someone pregnant. You’re asking for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:55 AM
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Not a woman or not women, “a women” is not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:55 AM
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Why not. If the other behavior didn’t work in finding a good partner, or they feel it’s not conducive to finding a good partner why not change tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:52 AM
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The entire convo was about high body count women as if it was a special occurrence. I am saying it’s not a gendered behavior it’s just something that happens to some people that like causal sex. And I am simply trying to point out that the behavior goes both ways. Either they meet someone that values sex the same as them and they start dating. Or they reform and have to do a waiting period to prove their views/needs for sex changed. Hoes of both genders might do it. Some are happy being hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:36 AM

No no. It’s the same reasoning I’m saying. If someone that engaged in causal sex turns around one day and says “No more causal sex” and I’m one of the first people they are dating I would be skeptical. If it’s two or three years down the line and they’ve shown they were serious about their dating habits it would be different. I’m saying that people that enjoy causal sex probably have better luck dating other people that also enjoy causal sex. I’m not sure where you got the idea that I preferred …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:30 AM

Not they are saying they would just find someone who values sex the same as them. There are plenty of men who aren’t hurting for sex and haven’t ever been who just want a partner they are compatible with. These couples prob hook up on the first date and go from there. Playing games isn’t something they want to do. Fuck boys don’t just want to randomly settle down one day. They lose out on someone they liked and it makes them change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:15 AM

The women who get pumped and dumped are the good women these guys are trying to find. The ones that give a guy a chance. It’s those women who they exact this weird revenge on when the opportunity strikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:12 AM

Most legal shows are trash at portraying actual judicial process and how it works in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:22 PM

How? Preme2s argument was that women don’t want to sleep with someone no one else wants. You stated that often times the woman who a guys with is the first person that showed him interest. Both those things can’t be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:19 PM
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Not everyone in an open relationship is in the scene. A lot of vanilla couples that go enm do end up like that. Kink is way more forgiving in the looks department.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:03 PM
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Well not everyone is just trading partners all the time, most people just have one or two extra play partner. A bunch of the women are bi: every single guy I know on the scene that wanted a threesome got at least one. A good dom with a main partner can usually easily find another girl through his partner who wants to explore. There are some guys that get no extra play, but they still have their main partner: and tbh those guys are usually into some wild stuff or very rough play. On the other end…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:56 PM

Haha let me rephrase, it’s every day we are together. He travels a lot and some days I sleep at my place. I’m demi and sex is still kinda weird to me, so it started out as a way to get me more comfortable so I’d be able to get out of my head and have an orgasm. Before my bf id only had like three EVER. Then it just became kind of our thing. Sometimes its just touching, mind you. And the goal isn’t to finish or anything, ifs to just be together. Lol we are both pretty early risers. The kink helps…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:50 PM

To me this sounds like it’s written by someone that can’t attract women, so they blame their lack of romantic interest on women being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:43 PM

My bf and I start each morning with some sort of intimate act. Whether it be me going down on him, him going down on me, or penetrative sex. I don’t want to say my sex drive is low, because it’s not. But it’s definitely responsive a lot of the time. But, knowing that he gets turned on seeing me initiate motivates me to try more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:41 PM
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I mean kink doesn’t always involved penetrative sex. Usually if there’s sharing involved it’s both ways. The guy can also get other partners because he has someone that will vouch for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:35 PM

Didn’t you say that some women wouldn’t care earlier? And there a reason why women care about their man’s infidelity too. If he’s off Fucking other women he has ample time to form an emotional bond or have kids that will take away his time and resources from his main chick. Plus, it’s disrespectful to her. By your argument so long as the woman doesn’t get pregnant by another man, he has nothing to be upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:28 PM

Then she didn’t need preselection to be interested in him in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:19 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:10 PM
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So that’s good! I know plenty of people with open relationships that work both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:09 PM

It’s actually bizzare to think about. Men can attach no emotion to the sex they have so they can have as much sex as they want, but attach lots of importance on the sex another person has. Then, women attach a lot of emotion to sex, yet y’all claim she won’t care about the sex her partner is having without her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:09 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:05 PM
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I just repeated what you said, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:05 PM

How’d it impact the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:04 PM

And how did that work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:59 PM
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So, again, if he wants his main chick he has to stay faithful to the main chick if she cares. He can’t do whatever he wants in this case, he can only do what he can get away with. And very few women would be okay with their man Fucking someone else and then coming home and trying to fuck them. Because it would then cheapen the sex. It’s just sex, there’s no emotion involved. Why would sex with his main chick be this different and special thing? I think having sex like that actually ruins mens ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:58 PM
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You’re saying he can do it because he has leverage. We started with why a woman should be able to be open if her man is also open. Now I am saying this, in terms of a committed relationship, he has to want something from this woman to stay in it. If he wants (and can get) variety, why wouldn’t he just leave and have all the variety he wants? What’s the point of the open relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:51 PM

Also, very few of the men actually getting women are worried about being “cucked”. The ones that complain about it are the ones fighting for their lives in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:45 PM
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Yeah and pay for it if he does. They have kids and probably a prenup with a infidelity clause. Plus if he wanted to get rid of her he would have. That’s also a point men here overlook. You want this woman to yourself, or else you’d have just divorced and or left her. Either you are stuck because you’ll end up paying for the divorce (in which case she has all the leverage) or you actually want this woman in your life (she has leverage again). Either way, she can and will leave the second she gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:43 PM

They aren’t married or in LTRs. I’m not talking about the sharing of an eligible bachelor, those women are fighting to be the only one. I’m talking about in a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:37 PM

What’s the point? For me specifically, if I have no desire for sex that means I’ve become fully asexual. And i don’t think there would be a fair division of time if I stayed in a marriage and let him have sex with other women. I’d want my partner to have a full relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:36 PM
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He didn’t have any leverage with Beyoncé, she just loved him. She has her own money and can literally go get another billionaire if she wanted to. She forgave him because she wanted to. She doesn’t need him to fund her life like to basketball wives do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:31 PM

If they are married or in an LTR she shouldn’t need preselecting, he got selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:29 PM

I dunno, sex drive is weird as fuck. If I had no desire for sex, I’d prob just get a divorce because I don’t see a reason in keeping him from having sex or trying the open thing, it would just get frustrating for both of us. Sex is important but I feel like couples are afraid to talk about it if one person isn’t satisfied. Like, really they just need to have that discussion regularly to make sure everyone is getting what they need. It seems tedious but it helps. My bf and I have like biweekly ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:29 PM
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Those men aren’t openly doing it. They are cheating and their partner didn’t stay. There’s a difference between cheating and being open. If your partner knows exactly what’s going on and doesn’t care, I’m all for it. But if she is hurt by it and/or also wants that option, it’s hypocritical for you not to give it to her. And then of course, cheating is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:22 PM

Nah, some woman can just get built. Look at gymnasts arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:20 PM

I find it funny how men here are obsessive with not being “cucked” because it’s so disrespectful yet some men don’t understand why a woman would be equally disrespected if her man slept with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:18 PM
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Women did it because they had to. In these modern times, women don’t have any incentive to share their man. Unless you’re top 1% rich, which then you probably wouldn’t be getting married or going it o an LTR. There’s zero reason for women to be disrespected by a man who doesn’t think she’s enough, unless of course, she is free to behave like her man isn’t enough as well. Or else she is opening herself up to being replaced by whatever floozy he’s with. In the past, that woman got nothing by sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:08 PM
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Yes it is. You said women only have sex with men they like and respect. How is he getting her to sleep with him if he’s not earning one of those things from him. Either women only sleep with guys who offer something and provide in some way that will induce them to respect, or women will sleep with men so long as he’s attractive enough. The men that want to do this have to be able to earn the respect of the women somehow. He’s not just walking out getting pussy thrown at him, because according to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:04 PM

Not really, the people there aren’t generally looking for hot guys that are just hot. The are looking for partners that are willing to explore and fulfill a need. My bf and I are kinky and apparently we don’t “look the part”. My bf is extremely popular in the scene because he’s attractive and is so different from the other guys. He doesn’t play with other women though, so his popularity faltered a bit when we started dating because neither of us play with others. It’s a weird dynamic honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:01 PM
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Her having sex doesn’t diminish her ability to have children. Or care for a home. A man spending his money and time on other women directly correlates to an immediate loss of resources for his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:58 PM
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Im not taking it personally at all. Women want commitment from a man, if he’s not providing that AND he’s expending resources on other women, then what good is he? Now, I think men don’t like the idea of sharing so they made these fake moral issues around women’s sexuality. But I think if women weren’t judged for having multiple sexual partners, they would do it. And, they then wouldn’t have an issue with men doing it, because it would mitigate the risk to their own resources because they could …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:04 PM
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Yes. Because they are allowed to put on a persona and exist in a world with lots of rules that are easily defined and easy to follow. They can also be weird: it’s not a bad thing there to be weird. Sharing your partner isn’t seen as a bad thing because sharing is common. Maybe someone can do something that you can’t and you want to learn, so you and your partner can experience it together or your partner can do it on their own. There is a defined line between romantic affection and play in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:00 PM
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Penises are literally designed to scoop out competitor sperm. It wouldn’t have done that unless there was a reason. Men are meant to compete for women, part of that, is sexual competition. If you want me to be pregnant for 9 months you gotta earn it. And if you want me to be sexually beholden to you, you also gotta prove your worth it. Women orgasm simply for pleasure. If that wasn’t a sign that women should be orgasming left right and center I don’t know what is. Pregnancy doesn’t negate sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:54 PM

The higher tier men thing is not common knowledge. It’s actually less common to see conventionally attractive people in the scene. Especially conventionally attractive men. In my experience, the vast majority of scene participants have some level of social anxiety, depression or social ineptitude that the scene helps alleviate. some guys switch it up, but I know multiple sub men that have play partners other than their primary partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:48 PM

If sex drive reduced that much wouldn’t affairs involving women in relationships in general not happen? I think, if allowed to still go have sex with hot men without judgment or risk, women would. We still appreciate good sex. And wanting to have sex with someone doesn’t mean you should get to. You could want to have sex all day long, it’s not conducive to anything for you to do so. Having sex with one woman isn’t going to kill you, and if you need a variety that much then there’s literally zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:39 PM

Y’all and the word cucking, I swear obsessed with it here. Yes being submissive to women in this case gets men a lot of extra interest. They don’t have to include pegging or being watched/watching another man. Some guys just don’t want to lead the sexual action and like being told what to do. Its pretty safe to look up, they use it mainstream now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:36 PM

Maybe that’s why the sex drive “gets lower” maybe she’s actually bored of sleeping with the same dude, doing the same thing And if it’s disrepcful for her to sleep with other people then it’s disrespectful for him to sleep with other people. Why should she let someone else have access to her husband and have to share time that should rightfully be all hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:25 PM

It’s just they have experience in a kink skill or are subs/bottoms. I know of one guy, ugly as fuck, did firecupping and some weird hypno shit. He had a long -term partner and at least two play partners at all time .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:23 PM

Why should it only be open on the man’s end? He’s equally as likely to get an unwanted child, sti, or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:17 PM

Wrong. The scene is filled with mid and lower guys who are absolutely swimming in women because they offer some sort of kink skill and come with reviews from other partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:15 PM
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In a way, all work objectifies you though. You monetize your usefulness and make yourself valuable, marketable and hope to have a good string of reviews so your next will be more tempted to provide money for your services.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:15 PM

Yes but the majority of the issues with unwanted pregnancies stem from a lack of resources. Both before and after : contraception and family planning services and therapy should be cheap, safe and free. Hormonal BC options should include way more care while taking in, in order to help with the side effects that can and do often happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:13 PM

Yup. And until there’s a way to transfer pregnancies to a woman that wants to carry a baby to term she should get to. How about we make maternity benefits match those in other countries. A friend of mine who doesn’t work a corporate job like most of my friends gave birth and had to be back at work in two weeks, or take FMLA leave for 12 week unpaid. She and her husband and children cannot afford to have her not work for 12 weeks, or even really 4 week. But she only took off three weeks then went…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:43 PM

Child support is mandatory all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:40 PM
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The issue I have is that the women you used for your initial examples, the twitch lady and wiggly butt lady, have not complained about being looked at. So why did you start with them? Why did you use their images when you, supposedly, have examples readily available if women doing things just as extreme? It’s because you know it’s not the same thing even remotely. Workout clothes are not suggestive, just revealing, skin can be shown. No one cares that you look, I shouldn’t be able to tell that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:31 PM
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You have not. The two examples you initially have are a woman sitting with her legs spread wide open on twitch and another woman who is wiggling her butt for the camera. If bikinis don’t get the exact same reaction, I don’t see how workout clothes that cover way more skin are somehow wild. Men workout with their shirts off, grunting in tight shorts all the damn time: No one staring at them. That is not a suggestive outfit, she had a shirt on first then removed it, prob to check her form: which ,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:22 PM
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Show me a real life example? You haven’t yet. Even in the Fernandez video she isn’t wearing anything extreme or suggestive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:14 PM
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That’s just it: the men are not glancing. The men are staring openly. People don’t stare like that at the beach or in pools as often as they stare at a woman whose working out or just walking. Dude. No woman who is wearing camel toe pants is complaining about you looking at her. You are transposing the actions of the women you look at, onto the thoughts and actions do the women you only hear about. I bet most guys have very few examples of this actually happening in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:06 PM
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Make a post about it. No one is using the term objectification, in this context, in the psychological sense. You are taking a oddly literal and concrete view of this. No one thinks that’s what the word means in this context, no one neurotypical at least. I’ve never, ever heard a guy be confused about why someone is mad at being objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:04 PM
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Mine too! We are watching the Puss in Boots movie. The new one. It’s trippy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:50 AM
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He’s my boyfriend, he doesn’t need to get me gifts in order for me to want to have sex with him. Lol. But he did get a little something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:39 AM
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I’ve come across more that men don’t see what’s wrong with being treated like a sex object. Not them being confused as to what women mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:08 AM
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Make this a thread and see what they say. The first definition for objectification is essentially lowering someone to the same status as an object. Most people do NOT think of objectifying in the sense you are speaking of. Hell, I bet the average person doesn’t even know that objectifying can mean something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:32 AM
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You linked two videos: one was off woman, initially wearing a light colored t shirt over a black/blue workout set. She doing a standing set. She is facing the camera the entire time. That man is staring at her for a solid amount of time. The Fernandez video, the one in your second reply to my queustion, was already dismissed at ridiculously overblown. No one really gave her the platform to legitimately complain, she was shut down. There is no issue with you looking, but the store would have a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:28 AM
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Again, you can’t see the others girls butt. The one who was in the gym lifting and caught a trainer staring at her when she was recording her set. There is nothing to suggest that the woman in that video wanted to share her workout or her outfit. We don’t know if her pants were butt enhancing. It’s not a thong btw. Thongs don’t make your butt look big, they are to make it so that you don’t have panty lines. The pants you are referring too just have a ruching and a more defined crease so that it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:11 AM
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Delicious too!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:04 AM
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The outfits aren’t the same. The other woman’s not showing her whole ass to the camera and making it jiggle. She’s in the gym working out. You used two women who are wanting to be looked at and tried to say that women that don’t want to be sexualized constantly by strangers do the same thing. It’s simple not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:02 AM
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Jessica Fernandez was ridiculed up and down the internet for this. Everyone said she was being extra.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:58 AM
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This is not even the same woman as either video you posted. And this woman is wearing a literal workout set, normal and wasn’t posting what she was doing at the time. She’s wearing more than what some women wear to the beach. She’s at a gym and she didn’t have her but pushed into the camera like the other woman. Neither of the women you originally posted complained about being looked at. Both those women’s livelihoods come from being looked at or oogled. They did not complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:56 AM
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It’s not prostitution. It’s pornography. There’s a difference for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:52 AM
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Are you forced to subscribe?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:50 AM
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Came home to a snack from my favorite bakery today! Babe had a meeting in the state I’m from and took a Lyft an hour and a half to get me dessert. He’s so amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:50 AM
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Did either of those particular women complain about being stared at?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:48 AM
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Did the women that posted those videos say not to look or stare?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:48 AM
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If we have different morals it won’t work. The people that don’t care about their partners core beliefs tend to be the ones in the most damaging relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:44 AM
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This is not what most people mean when they hear the term “objectify”. Most people, when they say someone is onbjectifying them, it means they are putting aside the fact that the person is living, breathing being and inserting only their own will and wants onto that person. A man would objectify a woman by reducing her to only the parts he values, equating her worth to himself only in the use he gets from those parts. She’s not even valuable, she is useful. That’s a bit of an extreme example. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:39 AM
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this stat is misconstrued so much. While men vary more than women in terms of extreme or low intellect, it’s important to point out that having the high end is rare. If the stat is true then most of the men would fall on the average or below average areas, while only a rare few would get high.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:37 AM
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Meh, I’ve seen some blah ass men with beautiful smart women. Most of them did me through friends though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:13 PM
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But the woman is never considered an idiot in that scenario. She’s always the one getting her husband out of his little spats, fixing the issues he causes behind the scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:24 PM
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I don’t think that’s true at all. I do think the tests may have been designed to test things that most smart men show they have. So take pattern recognition in numbers and shapes, there are other ways to test patterns, like with morphology in linguistics, for instance, that’s not generally tested in IQ test. Also, Iook at he the Flynn effect. Women are now scoring slightly higher than men are, think it’s been slowly increasing since the 80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:23 PM
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It’s not necessarily objectification. When my boyfriend and I are in the headspace, we are both seeking to gain something from it. He enjoys curating experiences, giving someone exactly what they need and not what the want all the time. He likes to make things memorable and a little heavy. He’s told me that it’s weird feeling of responsibility and freedom: because I have told him the things I like and don’t like. And the lines I want to cross, and it’s his job to guide me through it all. He can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:58 PM
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Okay, and to my next point. Most of those men died of old age. With the exception of Alexander the Great, (who died at 32). Alexander and George Washington were fighting for power. They were not paragons of greatness. Both fought for power and influence, not necessarily equality. We see these men as great leaders because the victors write the narrative of history. Now, they were good strategist. But, on the scheme of things, comparing those men to todays men is not the same. Most of todays men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:49 PM
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Isn’t he a character from until dawn though? Did you mean George Washington?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:35 PM
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Who the hell is Josh Washington?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:33 PM
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That’s my issue with a lot of these standards: they were created by men with the intention of measuring only men. So, women can’t even get fair assessments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:31 PM
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So do you think women want men that are superior to them in every single facet? Or are just a few areas important? Because there’s is an entire tripe around the “my husband is a loveable idiot” relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:29 PM
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It’s only parasitic when she wants to leave. Did he not know she made less money did him? Or that he’d have to support her if she didn’t work at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:56 AM
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Because the men are marrying women that don’t work, giving them lifestyles that the women wouldn’t be able to afford otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:39 AM
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Can you show me proof that the sleep around during a serious relationship? Especially if they have not engaged in causal sex in a long time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:38 PM
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19 year old girls are no different from 19 year old boys: stupid and inexperienced. There are a few who have some level of maturity to recognize the eons of differences that should be present between a 19 yo and a 40 yo. There are some that have certain expectations: those 19 year olds are not chasing after some pencil pusher at an office. They are going after men with actual money and clout. Now, those girls are still stupid to a point: they are trading their youth for access to money and mater…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:48 PM
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You make women believe you care about them and date them because you can. They are grown, fully grown adults that have the ability to reason and look at your behaviors. For the sugar dating you pay for the ability to be able to have access to a young woman because you can afford it. Now, a man in his 40s comes across a fresh-faced 19 year old with little experience. She’s easily impressed, he can put in almost no effort in order to sleep with her because “wow you have your own apartment that’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:38 PM

Listen, as a woman that gained and lost weight, it’s not easy to lose it. It takes mounds of self control and discipline, especially if you’re older. And losing weight just shows you how intensely shallow people, especially men can be. I’m the exact same woman I was before, just in a smaller body. I can say some stupid shit now and men will laugh and agree with me. They try to get on my good side. It’s idiotic. ETA: why do some men let themselves not be fit. It’s not like all men are keeping the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:27 PM
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Don’t you currently date fat women you don’t really like because it’s all you think you can get? Not to be rude, but I’m genuinely asking. And don’t you sugar date younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:24 PM
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You’re telling me, your daughter who is 18, could bring home a man the same age as you, and you wouldn’t bat an eye. You wouldn’t think “why is this man interested in a teenager?” Especially as a man, you wouldn’t be worried he was using her at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:14 PM
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If it was that straight forward with a will then there wouldn’t be a section of law dedicated to litigating disputed estates. It’s not always black and white. People get petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:01 PM
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Nah, if your daughter whose 19 brings home a 40 year old man one day, I guarantee you’re probably going to be weirded out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:45 PM
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I meant the men here in general. The once saying women don’t give them chances and that they will be single forever. By your logic, they just need to wait it out for someone to come along. The forever girlfriend is just a stop on that guys lifeplan, someone better will come..eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:43 PM
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Then those lawyers are being unethical. If the best thing for the client is wrapping up quickly that’s what they should be advising.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:42 PM
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So, your idea of a successful marriage is just…not getting divorced? You don’t care about infidelity or anything? This is literally no difference than being regular married now. There’s no law that says a husband has to take care of his spouse or vice Versa. The only thing it controls is how properly passes and who makes medical/financial decisions if one party is unable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:33 PM
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If that’s the case wouldn’t it mean guys here are complaining for no reason? It’s not that they can’t meet anyone, it’s just that they haven’t gotten to the end of the singleness yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:31 PM
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If he was going to get someone better he would have found someone better. He doesn’t want anyone better: men don’t stay in relationships they are unhappy in if they can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:59 PM
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On the will they did, but the kids are still trying to contest saying that he wouldn’t have left so much to her. It’s mostly because he’d been sick, naturally she took care of him. He changed the will like days before he died or else I don’t think they’d be able to contest it as easily. It’s actually pretty fucked up what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:50 PM
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I’m replying specifically to the comment made above. Most divorces in US settle without court and the majority of jurisdictions have each party pay their own fees. The main time it gets iffy is when one party literally cannot afford to pay for legal representation. Childcare is a cost you’d pay even if you were still married. It’s why I say you should only have kids with people that will be good parents first. You need to be amicable for your kids: you don’t need to live with your partner to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:47 PM
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I’m in the US so I was talking about US law. I don’t know anything about Canadian law, but I do know that it still isn’t gender specific. Anyone can get that spousal support and it’s based off of who has the most resources. So, the solution is to Mary someone of a similar economic status to you. If she wants to stop working when she becomes pregnant, figure out expectations, write them down, at minimum stick to those.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:37 PM
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He had kids and they accused her of influencing him into changing the will. It’s still ongoing so who knows how it’ll end up. But she’s super stressed out because she now has to share ownership of a home (they purchased it together) but he thought because they purchased it together it would go to her if he died first and vice versa. Well somehow it went to his kids, and now she has to either buy them out or deal with them basically forever. It’s just so messy. Marriage would have made it simpler…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:24 PM
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Oh I do. But I’m not talking about that case. Im specifically talking about your comment that something better might come along. Why didn’t it before?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:20 PM
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Not how divorce works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:19 PM
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If there was a better prospect he would have found her by the point someone reaches “forever gf” status.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:18 PM
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He had one, it was contested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:17 PM
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You can still ask the same questions then: why doesn’t the guy marry the woman that’s desperate for him and obviously not going anywhere? This situation seems ideal for marriage in the eyes of those men that see it as a risk: this woman stayed with you, by you and is there for you without any commitment from you. She probably dismissing friends and family worrying about her, all in favor of “I love him” sounds like a safe bet for marriage even if she did let herself go a bit. In fact I bet the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:16 PM
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Unfortunately those labels have legal implications that, while some can be overcome by some paperwork, others are much more difficult to get. Especially if something happens to one partner. My aunt was a “long-time girlfriend”, her bf died, and she got almost none of the property he had promised would be theirs. Some stuff had both their names on it, but she then had to share ownership with other people because of how they set it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:14 PM
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I always wondered about this: either they are desperate for that specific man. In which case, maybe the man should consider wifing the woman that is lowering herself for him in order to keep him. Or they are desperate for a relationship. Then one has to wonder why those women just don’t go pair with a guy that will actually be happy to be with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:12 PM
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Alimony is granted like 10% of the time if that. It only used to be given so much because women would literally get married, have babies and have no other skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:10 PM
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News flash. Most people in the west are entitled, greedy and spoiled. Men included. Even you sound a bit entitled as if thinking you’re owed a certain type of woman in order to maintain a world view that might not be true anymore. Also, it seems you might either be dealing with people on a very surface level. Or you need to start considering that maybe the people you are meeting are representative of those you allow into your life. You can definitely find a woman whose not into clubbing. I see e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:09 PM
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Did you say women are rarely creative? Uhh again, I disagree. Almost half of the most popular book series and franchises are by women. 42% of business owners are women, 43% of all scientist are women. And that’s with the gender gap closing only in the last 50 years. Imagine what it will look like in another 50? People are quick to forget that women literally could not innovate or do anything serious for most of human history: their contributions were laughed off or stolen by a man. Now their wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:57 PM
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I still feel like we can’t get a true measure of who is more logical or rational because the standards of what is considered logical or rational was created by men. Even when women act more like men, their actions are turned into negative traits. She’s too aggressive, too masculine, too assertive, too opinionated. Even when women mirror the same behaviors as men, those behaviors are still seen as irrational, illogical or extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:48 PM
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Men do not face an issue and then dredge up anger in order to solve a problem. Anger is a reaction: pure and simple. Anger is often irrational by nature. There is a reason seeing someone angry makes people anxious: it can often preceded violence. Women also tend to experience longer periods of anger than men, because they do not immediately lash out as men do. They hold on to it and think through their anger. Men are the ones calling women irrational and over emotional: it’s flawed to have the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:42 PM
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Men are not more rational. If women are irrational because they are emotional then men can be considered equally irrational because they are equally emotional. Anger is an emotion. Men don’t get angry to fix things. They get angry, do something, and call that action a reasonable solution. When in reality, they did the same thing you’re claiming women do. They got angry and did something in order to gain some semblance of control of the outcome: the result may not be the ideal or even a good outc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:00 PM
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What’s the point of being separated and not divorced? Are you going to let that man have access to his kids if he’s abusive? Is infidelity punishable or something? What’s to stop them from being married in name only?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:57 PM
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What if someone starts abusing their partner after they are super married? What if their partner starts abusing their children, other people’s children? Or it is found that a partner had been hiding some super violent acts? Can they not get a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:26 PM
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No it’s so awkward and I always feel so bad. I’m usually flattered if the guy is polite about it. The only times I have a negative reaction is when the guy just won’t take “no” for an answer. Like when I say I have a boyfriend and he says something like “why does he have to find out” and just keeps pestering me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:14 PM
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I still think that the mean girl mentality, while definitely true, is the result of having to fight for men. And being told, almost constantly, that if you don’t make yourself the best option for your man he will leave you. As an adult, now with a successful and attractive partner, my mother has told me several times that I need to put my happiness and personal wands aside in order to make sure I keep my boyfriend happy enough to want to marry me. She wants me to focus solely on his wants, liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:13 PM
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Yeah beside anger is still an emotion. Rage is still an emotion, but men often dismiss anger as a different kind of emotion that somehow makes them more “rational”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:06 PM

Again. If you meet a woman, who had say. 25 sexual partners, she’s not currently sleeping around, hasn’t been ff at least a couple of years, has never had an accidental pregnancy and has never cheated. How is she a loss to the man to date because of her n count? They date, form a serious relationship, and get married and have babies. Where is the higher risk the the child is not his?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:00 PM

Why is it a loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:22 PM
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So are those things better than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:28 PM
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Are you purposefully dismissing that fact that women were barred from learning a lot of those things because men in power felt like it wasn’t needed? I think, this society forgets how much it values power. And it’s easy to call women weak, or followers, when prior to the invention of guns or weapons that allowed for distance, women would have had to fight men for power, physically. And yes, women are not going to have the same muscle mass as men. But in modern war, your testosterone doesn’t make…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:16 PM
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So. You’re saying men are better at social settings than women? Or society values men more?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:58 PM
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Are you saying men are better people than women? Better at what? Exactly? Do they have more value than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:56 PM
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So are men inferior to, say tigers? Elephants?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:50 PM

How? If all things are equal and a woman knows she can use her low n to go out and grab a richer, taller man, then how does her low n make her a better option? It’s not really her low n, it’s her beliefs on sex that matter more. You could have a low n woman that’s just saving her virginity so that she can lure in the richest man possible and then divorce him. You can also have a woman that dated around, had sex and now knows exactly the kind of partner she wants. Low n isn’t really the thing tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:50 PM

So..,it doesn’t make her more loyal. At all. What does n-count prove if it doesn’t equate to loyalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:45 PM
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Very few couples in America can afford to have an adult dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:44 PM

Neither can the man. What if the low n woman you selected finds a guy taller and richer and decides to take the risk since she hasn’t done much risk faking in the past. And the new taller, richer, funnier guy is a better option. Plus, her low n-count would make her an option for him. So why would she stay with you in that case? What’s to stop your low n women from going to men that are better options after they’ve gotten you? If n-count is that much of a deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:41 PM
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Well then I think people need to recognize that they accepted the risk by marrying a partner who, without help, would otherwise be poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:21 PM
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Why? You have a contract for literally everything else you do, basically. Why not for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:54 PM
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If an attorney writes your prenup and parts of ir get thrown out you could prob sue for malpractice. Most prenups they get thrown out are done so because the couple wrote them themselves without advice from an attorney. But if you have an attorney write the entire thing, they can advise you on what to include. Most judges are not just giving people houses and money. Especially with property, the person getting full control of it can only do so if they buy the other party out. Funds that are spli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:54 PM
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Why not just get a prenup! Pay for her to get a lawyer separate from yours, get a nice, attorney written prenup that details what you get to keep. Child care is different because that’s not hers or yours, so you can’t do anything to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:48 PM

When I’m saying good guy I mean his a good match for her. I’m not sure what part you’re not understanding. I’m saying that she is removing people that may be compatible with her. For no reason other than…the penis isn’t aesthetically pleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:58 PM
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Home duties such as what? I personally feel like if both people are working and high earners, home duties shouldn’t matter. Hire someone. If it’s more on the average income side for both, then split the chores evenly or equitably. Personally, I don’t necessarily like the idea of one partner not doing house work simply because they make more money and take on more of the bills. Especially if the lower earning partner is working anywhere over 25 hours a week. Now if one partner contributes nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:24 PM
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Usually when guys say that though, they dated a woman with those traits from the get-go. It only becomes problematic when she gets raises and promotions, starts making even more money and he is left where he started. Or. When she steps away from her career a bit, turns down the promotion in favor of spending her time at home, with the promise that her partner will pick up the financial slack she put down. But he doesn’t. Then she gets angry and resentful because she put aside her career for a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:00 PM
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Even when marriage was “permanent” people were finding a way to get around it. “She hasn’t given me a son” “she is infertile” “she won’t sleep with me” “she’s a witch” (last ones kind of a joke). Marriage has never been permanent, it’s always lasted until one party wanted out. The vows don’t keep you loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:54 PM
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What if she had a lower income and worked more hours just because of her job? Like she was in the service industry? Or worked at a hospital? What if she had a higher income and worked less?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:50 PM
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Again, everyone is glossing over the question. What if she already has money. Got a trust fund, won the lottery, etc. and isn’t working crazy hours? No one finds another person being belligerent and egotistical attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:50 PM
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That didn’t answer my question at all. If she won the lottery she wouldn’t be worried about work. Is the issue her having more money than you? Or just her working more or as much as you? And if it’s the latter, what if she made less but still put in the same hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 02:42 PM
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Is it that you don’t want to compete with her job or you don’t want to feel like you’re the lesser partner? For instance, what if she didn’t work but had a lot of money? Like she won the lottery or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:35 PM
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Good luck! Checkout the menu before hand and maybe have a suggestion on what sounds good. It’ll look like you’re decisive!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:12 PM
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Can y’all please just use paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:17 AM
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This is it. The leadership in relationships is a given role. Not one that is forced. You’re the leader because the other party is letting you be. The second you breach the trust needed for that role in some way, it should be gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:48 PM
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Women want the same or better or barring that, they want someone whose drive matches there’s. Many high earning women (who don’t want to date men from their field) realize that it’s next to impossible to date a guy that’s going to make more than she does. Instead of looking for someone with more, they look for someone complimentary with the mindset that they want. But on the other end, if I’m a cashier making min wage, why would I, as an adult woman, want to date someone that made less? We’d jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:46 PM

But isn’t her sister, who is hot, also disproving redpill ideals? She’s dating a short man, who cares if her sister is making fun of him in secret. It obviously didn’t since her sister married the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:22 PM
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Would her sexual market value impact her ability to have sex in the first place? Esprit’s if the argument is that women are hypergamous. Who would she be cheating with if women become sexually unattractive with age:?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:11 PM
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I thought women lose SMV with age though. Especially the more children they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:49 PM
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That’s the point. These men that want these are saying they’d even request it from their wives. At what point do you stop asking? I completely understand asking for one from a woman who maybe you were serious with, or hell, even not married to. But the issue of paternity not being a 100% certainty never goes away. So when does it stop? If you ask for the first baby, are you going to ask for the second? The men here aren’t asking for paternity only in the context of outside of a marriage. The men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:54 PM
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A friend of mine dated a guy for like two months before they had sex, they got “exclusive”, had sex and he ghosted immediately after. I had a situation where I met a guy, we started talking, and im Demi so I made it clear sex would have to wait. He seemed okay with it and one day he asked to be exclusive, despite the fact that I told him exclusivity would not make me sleep with him any faster. He said he understood, then immediately got mad and went out and fucked someone else when I still hadn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:27 PM
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What irks me is the men that want them after every single child. Like this woman has had four babies for you, do you think baby #5 is going to be the one that’s not yours? I’d be so offended if after, hell, the second baby my partner kept asking me for paternity test. How about this, pay for a surrogate, take my egg, your sperm, then you know 100% that it’s yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:16 PM
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Early in dating yeah. It’s different. And it shouldn’t be. However, women also shouldn’t face stigma for having consensual sex with a man they are getting to know…yet here we are. I would love for the early stages of dating to be more equitable. But I do think, in order to make everyone happy, then sex would have to wait until time and exclusivity. That way, if something goes awry, the woman won’t be called stupid for “giving it up to a man that clearly didn’t like her”. In reality, a man that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:04 PM
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His woman was hungry. He procured sustenance. And made a joke at the same time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:13 AM
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I was supposed to have a hot girl summer! Now I’m up here being domestic for a goofy doofus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:48 AM
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My boyfriend brought me a sandwich because I hadn’t eaten all day, ate me out then went on a work trip in the spans of two hours. My heads spinning and I am now folding his laundry for when he gets back Saturday. Who am I? How’d I get here. I don’t even fold my own laundry. When I said I wanted to get that bread, that head and for him to leave this is not what I envisioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:20 AM
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Im not living with a man that im not engaged to. (Not officially at least) but at the engagement, if he wants to budget we aren’t going 50/50 unless we make exactly the same. Otherwise we split equitably, with the partner that wants extra (if ideals don’t align) paying for the extras. Once married I don’t care. I’ll have a joint account where 80% of my money goes and all of that is free use. The 30% I’ll put away, most likely for college or something for kids. We will split utilities 50/50 thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 10:30 PM

It’s not how it works. Don’t bother looking. Edit: oh wait you’re the attorney, you also know it’s bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:46 PM

That’s not how affirmative action works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:46 PM

She wants to spend time with you. Especially if she’s the type that likes her solitude. If she works a lot and changes her schedule to see you, she likes you. My bf and I didn’t have sex for a long time! But I did other things after a few weeks that showed him I was interested: I cooked for him, if there was a show or something I wanted to see I got two tickets and invited him. Weirdly the biggest one was FaceTiming. When we first met I told him point blank that I hated FaceTiming and talking on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:44 PM

I know for a fact that you’re not new here. Why are you acting silly like this? You know that a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:41 PM

No they cannot. This is only for a certain kind of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:15 PM
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Has anyone in this sub actually experienced it? When I ask a guy what goes into planning a date, they usually give me two things: Picking a time Picking a place When I follow up and ask if they just pick and time and place and tell their date just to show up, usually the answer is no. They ask for her input and discuss it from there. That’s what a lot of men consider as planning the date all by themselves. I don’t think the reality that men have to plan it completely exists. For that first date,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:50 PM
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Here’s the issue, the women that do this in real life get men that are okay with it. And usually those men are terrible. I’ve never met a good man that was happily being walked over and commanded all in the name of possibly getting some. Again, has this happened to you in real life? Have you experienced a woman that actually liked you, maybe three dates in, dump to because you didn’t pay or did you dump her because she never offered?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 PM
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Then leave! The issue is you guys are bending to the ridiculous demands from people that are trying to use you, then they have sex with you and you think that makes it worth it. The issue is that a woman that likes you, won’t care if you don’t pay for every single date. You might have to pay for the first, but even you can mitigate that by picking someplace inexpensive. Go to a happy hour. If she says no, do you really want a woman that’s not going to go out with you because a stranger didn’t ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:35 PM
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Hell even people you just start to date. Like if she doesn’t offer to buy you a drink on the third date you should leave. But that’s also why I think men should invest in happy hour first dates and blatantly refuse to do first dinner dates: If she’s upset she is not for you. My bf is well off. We started dating casually by meeting up for a quick lunch drink between clients. He asked to meet for our first “date” and suggested we go to this bar that was in between both our offices so we could meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:26 PM
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Nah, if he’d have only hung out with me if I had sex with him that would make me feel pretty crappy. I’m sure just ducking him really worked out for that other woman, right? Not to say that your shouldn’t have sex if you want to. But someone choosing to wait, or jump into bed fast isn’t necessarily a determining factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:15 PM
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I disagree. I do think a lot of the women on Kevin samuels and the dating pods as a whole are there for entertainment. They say things just because they know it’ll get a certain reaction. I don’t know if any women, barring a few that are dating legitimately wealthy men, that expect to NEVER pay for anything. Now, most of the couples I know are in serious relationships, with joint accounts so they just pay from that, but I have never seen anyone not offer after a few dates. Have you had that expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:13 PM
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He was having sex with other people. I didn’t mind because he never made me feel like the lesser option. Despite us not being physical he spent most nights with me, we got dinners together. Even early on, when we were casually dating, he be texting or FaceTiming me often so I knew he was still thinking about me. When we got more serious, I could tell he was making time just for me. What did I care if he left at 1am? We were still having lunch and dinner together the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:04 PM
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Same with not offering input on a place to go. Now first dates I’ve heard women want guys to plan, or at least take initiative and ask her for some ideas. But I’ve never heard of anyone expecting their partner to solo plan every single date. Hell, I’ve never even been on a second date where a guy didn’t ask me if I had any ideas about the next date as a move for showing he was still interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:58 PM
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Difference in sexual shame growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:54 PM
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If you date a woman that won’t offer to even buy a round of drinks once, you need to leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:54 PM
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My bf waited six months. I wasn’t having sex with anyone else, just needed time. We weren’t exclusive until about 4 months in, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:53 PM
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Has Billy ever bought a girl he really liked a nice gift before it got serious? Paid a bill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:35 PM
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So why are you still complaining about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:24 PM
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So leave? I don’t know why this is such a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:10 PM

Purity means nothing. A guy won’t value you more because you’re pure, unless it’s something he saved for himself too. If a guy is out there Fucking left and right, no matter what mental gymnastics he does to convince himself otherwise, he’s not gonna be content settling down with a woman just because she’s a virgin. Dicks don’t make people dirty, but intent sure does. The samples don’t really matter. Honestly, if a nice guy decides he doesn’t want to date you because you’re not a virgin, and he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:04 PM

Lots of my issues are solved with money too, but it’s doesn’t make them all magically go away. It just makes dealing with them, at one level, easy. And my family used to be poor poor. Like I thought a toaster was luxury poor. All that happened was we stopped having financial worries and started seeing where the problems were stemming from. It was the people around us that actually did a lot of make life more miserable. Money is a huge advantage, because then finances becomes one thing you can th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:41 PM

Having money won’t make you happier in an emotional sense. It does make life easier in other ways. Being tall may reduce the barriers of entry for interest, but at the end of the day, it doesn’t gurantee interest. You can be tall and still be blatantly undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:36 PM

I just feel like it’s really dumb when almost everyone that has casual sex says that it’s not that great, the novelty wears off quick. The only people that actually enjoy it are ones that don’t want relationships anyway, and even then, those people still need human connection and validation in some form. We are telling you, casual sex isn’t going to change your life or fix all of your problems. You’re just going to reframe them and internalize them more when you realize that your life is still e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:16 PM

This is what women here have been trying to say. Casual sex isn’t special, no one thinks is special. It’s only special to people that can’t have causal sex but want to because they have FOMO. What you want is commitment and someone to make you feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:14 PM
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I don’t understand what he said and how it applies to my statement. What doesn’t anybody believe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:14 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:48 PM
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Yeah. Why would it matter. She’s not with any of those guys so having sex with them, at whatever pace, obviously didn’t get her a lasting relationship with them. No woman is making a guy wait three months because she doesn’t want to he viewed a slut, the three week mark already proves that. Maybe she wants to get some idea of whether the guy is in it ONLY for sex. And even then, most women aren’t making guys wait months like that. It’s really the expectation that the put out early that they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:17 PM
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There is no way a 50 yo man is meeting an 18 year old girl and thinking that they have a lot in common and she will be difficult. I’ve heard guys talk about this, I’ve had this happen. Though he wasn’t 50. They are manipulating these girls, they know it. Everyone knows it. Why would an 18 yo settle with a 50 accountant? Again, these are never rich men. They are always these looser guys, going after girls that come from average to below average backgrounds. Why aren’t 50 yo going after rich 18 yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:07 PM
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Even the expectation that someone put out on the third date is wrong. But again, this is why I suggest multi dating for those that can do it. You can have an honest conversation and if you don’t align you can move on. If you can’t multidate, I would then just date women that also don’t. But realistically, you just have to believe her or leave. If you ask her if she’s sleeping with someone else, and she says yes, that a convo y’all need to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:01 PM
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That’s never what happens. He’s with her because she’s easily impressed. Rich men get sugar babies or hot 22 year olds they can actually take places. Still gross, but the aren’t going for girls that just had their felony-possibility status dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:56 PM
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No. There’s always going to be manipulation involved. There is zero chance a 50 year old looks at an 18 yo and thinks “she’s going to make me work so hard and be a better man in this relationship.” He’s thinking “she’s young, dumb and desperate for attention. I can get her easy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:54 PM
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I mean if it’s sex on the first date or early in the dating phase i agree. If she has sex with him on the first day he is likely to think “does she do this on all her dates” .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:39 PM
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No one said that someone having sex with a lot of people are doing it because it’s a good match. The 50 yos that are mediocre getting 18 year olds are making promises and expectations they don’t intend to keep. It’s the lower middle class loser who takes the 18 yo to applebees and tells her weird shit about relationships that’s more problematic. Notice, it’s rare for these creepy relationships to happen (outside of celebrities) with a 18 yo there’s wealthy. A rich guy doing the same thing will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:38 PM
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Why is it an illusion of chastity? If I say “I’m not ready to have sex with you” that doesn’t mean I’m virginal. Now I do think it’s questionable when someone says they are waiting then has sex with someone else. But, that’s why I think multidating should be the norm. He can have his person he has sex with and we can just not be exclusive until we are ready for that. That’s what my bf and I did, except we became exclusive before we’d had sex. I wasn’t sleeping with anyone else though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:33 PM
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These two things don’t necessarily correlate. A grown man having sex with a fresh, shiny, 18 year old is a fucking creep. He’s not doing it because he’s the best match for her, he’s doing it because she’s young and he knows he can do very little and still impress her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:30 PM
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No it’s not…not at all. It does prove that he’s irresponsible though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:23 PM
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This has zero to do with what I said. However, I don’t think that number is correct. Especially when you look to the fact that for a long time, women couldn’t even introduce ideas as their own. Innovation from women is often left out entirely or the credit is taken by a man. It’s also doesn’t match with the idea that men are “simple creatures” that don’t need much and would be happy with just basic comforts. If men are indeed so simple then someone must be inspiring these innovations or doing so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:57 PM
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So our sex style varies. We definitely have sex almost every day. But we consider sex anytime there’s some sort of intimate contact with a nether region. So oral, etc. And sometimes the goal isn’t to get off, it’s just to be close to one another or exist in a certain headspace. I can’t tell if it’s too much because my expectations for sex go beyond “did one of us orgasm”. But if it’s too much for you, it’s too much and that’s fair. Also, the main issue would be who the fuck has time to have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:26 PM
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We are in our 30s!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:50 PM
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We are in our 30s lol! Both of us were multi-dating, I guess it’s called. But I hadn’t slept with anyone in almost 3 years before my guy. So, I wasn’t having sex with any of the men I was seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:40 PM
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Not necessarily. The package has to have the option for sex. I didn’t have sex with my bf for six months: coincidentally just after we became exclusive. He asked for exclusivity from me, not the other way around. He was also free to talk to whoever else he wanted to while we weren’t exclusive and not being intimate, he still chose to hangout and spend time with me because he enjoyed my company despite us not having sex. I feel like even if we hadn’t been romantically compatible we would have sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:36 PM
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I think…I think this is the first time a guy here complained about a woman initiating sex and her wanting too much sex. Have you thought maybe your sex drives don’t match and that’s why you’re more annoyed about the kimchi thing? You don’t actually want to have sex then anyway and that makes it worse. My bf has and will kiss me with full-on spicy garlic breath. I’m making him pop a tums for the heartburn and jumping his bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:30 PM
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Kimchi and pickled garlic and everything lol. My boyfriend will kiss me all the time after we’ve had dinner or something. But again, is she initiating sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:23 PM
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Kimchi is so good though! I have some at home. Where else would you keep kimchi? Wait, so you’ve got a woman initiating sex with you and you’re complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:20 PM
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How does this relate at all to what she said?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:06 PM
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You’ll find some at work! I was working mostly remote, then in an office were only like 20% of the staff came into it with any regularity. Now, my office is going back to normal a bit. Everyone comes in 2-3 days a week. And I think other offices are doing the same. And there are so many attractive guys in the building. My boyfriend came in to get me for lunch and even he noticed. He looked around and went “yeah you can’t come back here”. I swear, the men are putting in work to be seen in this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:04 PM
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Maybe if my boyfriend didn’t initiate sex right after we got back from Korean bbq we wouldn’t have this problem!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:54 AM
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…this is not how this works at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:53 AM
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More men also have very low iqs…men tend to occupy the extremes in terms of measured IQ: which also isn’t a good or accurate tool for measuring human intelligence. It mostly measure how fast you’re able to learn, and how much you’re able to retain. Whereas if doesn’t measure creativity or social intelligence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:48 AM
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I’m confused, did you mean to message this to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:20 AM
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A good guy as in he’s a good match for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:02 AM
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Ahhh okay, so small town person. You’ve known her for a while? Were y’all friends before or just knew of one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:54 AM
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Did she know you? Why would she ask a stranger for a ride?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:43 AM
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So…for you. Being in a relationship…with just anyone…makes you feel okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:07 AM
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Have you ever been cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:02 AM
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Is it romantic if one of you is just going through t motions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:55 PM
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But that doesn’t match with what you said just a bit ago. You said it would make you not suicidal if your partner only gave you basic relationship needs. That doesn’t necessitate exclusivity. Why exclusivity? What if you had a female friend that was willing to be your confidant and be intimate but not he exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:50 PM
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So then why can’t a companion or a really good friend serve the same purpose? If they are equally long-term and invested in your happiness? Or more so, because they actually like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:44 PM

I do find it weird that you have to be controlling someone in order to be happy. If your partner wanted complete control over your life, while only giving you the basic relationship needs, would that make you equally happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:40 PM
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That used to be mostly due to exposure and bias against it. In the modern world, if your partner isn’t willing to examine your cultural norms it probably wouldn’t work. However, dismissing a group because you assume they won’t agree with your cultural differences is very limiting. Also specifically, most white people in the US aren’t not interracial dating because of cultural differences…..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:44 PM
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A person that’s against racism wouldn’t use the phrase “own kind” because they wouldn’t see others as a different kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:40 PM

So…are you watching for the sports or because there are women running around?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:49 AM
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Nature didn’t decide shit. It’s happenstance and chance buddy. You’re not controlled by nature. And society makes laws, but that doesn’t mean they are right. You are not in a society that pushes for preteens to push out kids. In America, people live softer lives, which allows them to grow up a bit slower. There’s no reason, in todays age, that a teenager should be having a baby and be presumed responsible enough to care for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:33 AM
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Please show me the science that says that. A period is literally a signifier that pregnancy has not occurred. And again, a 12 year old is not mature enough to be another. Neither is a 13, 14, or hell most American 18 year olds aren’t mature enough to be responsible parents. People had children going because they HAD TO. with short life expectancy and low mortality rates, having kids early helped genes continue on. As we moved past that into a more sophisticated era, the age of first motherhood g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:31 AM
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Find someone that likes similar things as you. Not every woman likes fancy dates or nice restaurants. There are plenty of women that would be thrilled with a dive bar margarita and some air-hockey for a date. However, if the women you’re attracted to seem to all like the finer things in life, then you need to be realistic about expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:01 AM
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Also boys can technically father children super young too, you don’t see history forcing them to have kids the second they can….
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:56 PM
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Okay, the average age for girls to get their period is 12. Are those girls mature enough to be mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:55 PM
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This is a real story, the youngest mother on record was five years old when she gave birth. The man who impregnated her was definitely a vile, disgusting predator .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:42 PM
2

I got my period at 9…was I mature enough for motherhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:40 PM
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My boyfriend and I will both look, respectfully, of course. I’m not going to get offended because he find another woman to be attractive. If he acts on it then it’s a different story. Anyone that just needs to see an attractive person and can be incentivized to cheat by their body was going to cheat anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:33 PM
1

Dude, it’s literally on topic. Although yea, I did want to gush a little. But it really saddens to me to see guys thinking like this and assuming it’s all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:55 PM
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I don’t need to speak for all women. I speak for me, a woman that hasn’t lost a single bit of attraction for her boyfriend because he’s kind and affectionate. My point is, if the person is right for you, it’ll take a lot to make you lose attraction. Not everyone is for you: dating is one of those things you only have to get right once. If the women you’re dating are losing interest in you for showing affection to them, maybe choose a different type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:54 PM
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Not really. My boyfriend showers me with attention and affection: I love it. I love him. I give him attention and affection back. Really, if the person you’re with isn’t right for you, no amount of affection will make it work. And I’ve noticed in the past where a guy was treating me right, but there was just no spark after a while. My boyfriend giving me attention definitely doesn’t make me less sexually interested in him. We waited a long time to have sex and are making up every single one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:27 PM
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That’s so weird to me. I remember when I first saw one that wasn’t circumcised I was a bit confused, I didn’t know they looked different. But after watching videos on female circumcision and hearing women talk about their experiences, I can’t stand by doing that to babies. Especially if you’re already in bed with him and it’s something you “may” notice. I dunno, seems like an easy way to miss out on a good guy. Unless of course there’s religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:24 PM
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Why would him being uncircumcised matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:14 PM
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I’m saying that with some guys I do, or did, worry about being sued for sex. They put out certain vibes, ultimately, I just decided to never have sex with them and end things. With my bf, I knew he wasn’t the type to pump and dump, but had other reasons to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:03 PM
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You’re being dense and assuming that everyone wants “healthy sexual relationships”. Some people just want to use others and it’s a genuine issue. To dismiss it as “a non-adult” issue isn’t right. Adults, sadly do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:48 PM
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Well no, I just knew I wasn’t sleeping with him right away lol. And he wasn’t the type to d it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:39 PM
1

Yes they do. It’s a big issue sometimes. While I wasn’t worried about being pumpd and dumped, I had to wait 6 months to have sex with my bf. I have an issue where I can’t enjoy it and I refused to ruin the relationship early by associating him with bad sex. But people, adults, do worry about being used for their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:08 PM
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The issue is I’m not friendlier to them. I’m still the exact same at work lol. And I’m not really nicer, I simply just laugh and smile without adding anything if we are at my bfs social events. Also wanted to add, I was never mean. I treated them exactly the same as they would treat everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:51 PM
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Kind of related to my reply in an earlier post. But I think it’s interesting how differently men treat you when they think you’re a certain type of woman. My bf and I are in the same field. Sometimes our professional circles overlap. When we first started going out, he told me that some of his colleagues called me aggressive and said that I was likely to be a “ball-buster”. Obviously my bf didn’t listen, or maybe he did, but we recently went to a bday party for one of his work friends and afterw…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:59 PM
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Yeah, all those women also are more likely to find some stability in those felons, at least where they are from. A lot of those women grew up in extreme poverty. The only people able to take care of their families “properly” were people that were in gangs and committing crimes for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:04 PM
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Omg! I would simply pass away from embarrassment. My boyfriend is a dirty minded gentleman though. But the things he lets slip out of his mouth in front of our friends…my grandma would not be okay. I wonder if he can check himself in front of my parents. Dad might get a little upset. My mom, however, would be like “it’s about damn time, no returns”. When I tell you, she called me about once week before my guy and I got serious, just to tell me that she didn’t care where her grand babies came fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:56 PM
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Sometimes I’ll iron my jeans and shirts, but perm press and a steam cycle work wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:48 PM
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If I’m really mad I’ll tighten it a lot, pretend or struggle with it, then loosen it a little after he tries. It’s important to let him know that you can do something’s on your own. But when he’s annoyed at me, he puts things just out of my reach so I can’t grab them. He’s only about 5 inches taller than me, but he has super long arms and knows that I don’t look up for things. We love each other but we are petty lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:38 PM
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Sometimes I’ll just give my boyfriend a jar to open….as a treat. It makes him feel big and strong. If I’m annoyed at him I’ll tighten the jar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:31 PM
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Nope. If something I have needs to be ironed, if can most likely be dry cleaned and they’ll press it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:30 PM
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Half of the shit on this list, for me, are skills that while I acknowledge are useful, my man doesn’t need to have them because we can pay someone to do it. The risk to either of our body outweighs the cost of paying someone to do it. Hell, most of the time it’s just that we simply don’t want to do it ourselves. I’ll provide some examples, won’t go through your entire list: We both live in apartments, so we don’t do our own home maintenance. If we did, we’d just pay someone to do this. 2.Again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:13 PM
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I’ve 100% stopped talking to men because their families are racist. Granted, this would only be an issue if the man in question still had a good relationship with his family. There is zero chance he didn’t know his family was racist, and if he’s still talking to them, that means it’s not a big deal to him that they are. If it’s someone I’m considering being serious with, I do not want to make him choose between his family and me, because that I is what it will eventually come down too. Plus, I’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:41 AM
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My brothers already know, if something happens and they need to be picked up, call me first. Don’t freak mom out if it’s something not super serious. I might be upset at them, but I’m gonna come get them first, without embarrassing them, then I’m gonna yell at them in private lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:24 PM
1

That’s so uncannily similar to my brother and I. He wants to go to An art school in my city and is already playing the “it’ll save money if I live with big sis” game with our mom. Though I’m trying to convince him to dorm when the time comes, at least for a year so he can get the experience. But he is doing a summer program in my city in a couple of months and he’s so excited. Lol he offered to do all the chores for the summer because boarding for two weeks at the camp is the same price as my re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:14 PM
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Awww yeah! It’s funny talking to them. They insult me by reminding me that I was “born in the 1900s” then I threaten to tell mom to take their phone, it’s hilarious. They are good kids. They even gave my boyfriend a “shovel talk” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:38 PM
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He’s 14!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:29 PM
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Not a parent but my little brothers who I’m 17 years older than call me all the time to tell me about their drama. It’s adorable and cringe at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:28 PM

You cannot say that you’d be okay. And I’m talking about you as a man, would not be saying that if another man forced himself on you. Because a woman is unlikely to be able to force herself on a man. And it seems the only way to make some men here realize how bad sexual assault is, is by making them imagine a stronger and bigger man deciding that he want to have sexual with you, no matter what you say. Being assaulted is traumatizing. Being “okay” means you survive it. But so many people are dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:06 PM

For the love of god use paragraphs. You’re wrong. Not everyone who is deprived of sec will go through and take it from someone. Sex is not a need. You can go your entire life without sex. Women have been told to ignore their sexual urges for ages. It didn’t kill them. forcing yourself on someone is wrong!! It’s one of the most traumatic things someone can go through. It’s humiliating, it hurts, it’s violent and it’s terrifying. Someone has decided that you and your body have no agency. It’s a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:43 PM
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Accountings aren’t useless if she isn’t using the funds for the child. You can then get a modification on what you’re supposed to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:41 PM
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I mean, it’s not a man problem anymore. Most men don’t have money or assets for people to take. In fact, it’s actually more logical for men to marry now, because it’s highly unlikely that he has anything of value. Most divorces settle and both parties walk away with nothing more than hurt feelings and maybe a bruised ego. It’s not risky for the vast majority of people to marry. Child support would be the same no matter what. It’s more risky for men to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:40 PM
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No fault divorce is a killer. It doesn’t matter the reason. But it’s funny because one reason NF backs a thing is because men wanted to be able to marry their mistresses. Reagan introduced No fault divorce just before the start of the 70s and there was still a lot of stigma that came from divorcing. where men in the 50s had to sneak around, they now could just throw the idea of divorce in women’s faces as a threat, however in the 70s, women just started calling their bluffs. Without fault based …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:30 PM
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The salary is what defines the lifestyle. They don’t just take a number willynilly. It was likely that his funds were going towards her bills as well. They take the spouses income, housing expectations, and any other expenses and get the number from there. It just keeps both parties, reasonably, where they were during the marriage. She’s most likely not getting anywhere near the 40% per month max. And again they most likely settled on a number, if he had a good argument to go to court and get no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:16 PM
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That was to stop men from marrying women then divorcing her once he took her virginity. Women’s bodies have always been seen as burdens and useless if another man has gotten there first. Alimony is to protect women from being used and thrown away without regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:06 PM
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Yes, but you can ask for an accounting and in some states child support is paid to the state, then to the receiving parent. I have a guy friend that gets child support because he got full custody. Because he moved in with a new gf, the mom is now asking for accountings to see where that money is going. It’s a petty tactic, but I feel like most men don’t take the time. If you feel like your child’s mother is squandering your money, you every right to request an accounting from the courts. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:04 PM
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Because she spent ten years living a life with access to a half mill a year in finances. And the law states that they try to get the spouses a similar life post divorce, as they had pre-divorce. They also probably settled on an amount because most divorces are decided out of court. Also you know they had good attorneys from the amount of money they make. I’m actually surprised she got alimony at all, but they may have had a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:00 PM
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It’s literally shorter than the nonsense you wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:55 AM
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You have to look at how much money that is. He is making more than most people will. He basically makes a million every three years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:49 AM
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Child support is not awarded to women it’s awarded to the child. Men that fight for custody usually get part time custody and less child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:48 AM
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Less than that now. Maybe like 10% of all divorces which is a tiny part of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:48 AM

I don’t think they are usually taken either though. I think there are lots of single women that do some of these things that maybe the guys aren’t physically attracted to. At least the groups I was in were full of single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:28 PM
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Was he??? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:04 PM
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What??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:01 PM

Oh nah. They weren’t your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:59 PM

Women do all of those things. So many women genuinely love sports and there gym. And video games are getting way more mainstream. Nothing you do as a hobby is going to be that freaking gendered. I go to board game groups, went to hackathons and the like that were full of women. Hell, my friends regularly drag me to sports bars for football and basket ball events. And do all your friends literally like doing to exact same things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:13 PM

What hobbies do you have where there are no women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:05 PM

This confuses me. Did they ever try to initiate hanging out with you? Or were you the only one pushing to hangout? So when you stopped the communication died. In my experience, people tend to be two kinds of “friends”. One person has lots of friends. They can hangout with any of them, but only give real, genuine concern and friendship to a select few. But they like having variety in their social groups. These people don’t care if you reach out to them all the time, but will still come to hangout…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:55 PM

This may sound weird, but do guys here not have female friends? I know some don’t think having non-male friends is valuable. But I really think you guys would get way more compliments from women if you approached them as people. I compliment my guy friends all the time. Hell, I tell my boyfriends friends if their outfit is nice or their haircut is nice or if I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:05 PM
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Nah, in the US the general rule is that everyone pays their own attorneys fees. That’s why so many men (I believe rightfully in some cases) complain about there being way more free/low-cost family law services that are aimed at women than there are for men. But even that gap is closing now as “mens law firms” start opening up to counter. Plus lots of states are looking into getting mandatory public defenders/public representation for all family court and landlord/tenant issues. But really, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:27 PM
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Even if she dragged the process out, most divorces both sides cover their own attorneys fees. Because there is no fault divorce. Dragging it out with only hurt her, especially if she’s the one with no money. Even then, if she’s the one being difficult, then the courts see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:58 PM
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I really need men in this sub to learn how divorce works. You will not get reamed because the average couple hardly has any assets. No judge is giving a woman full ownership of a house without her having to buy her husband out, at a reasonable, current market rate. Most divorces don’t end in alimony. And most “marital assets” that are split half and half are bank accounts and savings accounts, future earning only matter until the divorce is finalized, and even then, most settle for lump sum amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:19 PM
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Sorry, I meant you asked about it in marriage. Which is what I answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:15 PM
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You asked about it in dating. I don’t think it exists at all because, especially for partners, if you’re sane there’s always something your partner can do to make you not love them. For children it’s a bit different. You may not support your child if they do something monstrous, but you’ll probably still love them as your child because you have memories of them before, and I think parents feel responsible for their children’s behavior, no matter how old they are, at least a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:16 PM
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Yes:! My point is men largely pay the same bills in ltrs and in general as women. Most people are not buying new homes. Most people are paying rent, food, utilities and leisure items.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:09 PM
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He’s in his thanos era.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:44 PM
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Do you realize the irony in saying women just use the internet to complain when you’re using the internet to complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:41 PM
1

Why is it in his nature to love?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:37 PM
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I thought it was obvious that I was talking about women with families, supporting their families. But okay. Let me rephrase, most women in the us that are in relationships pay bills. Most women in the us pay bills in general. What the fuck do men buy with their money when they are single and or married? Home, clothes and healthcare? There are very few women in the US that have the luxury of paying for nothing in a relationship. Very few. Most women who are dating someone in an LTR are paying for…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:26 PM
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Oh no religious unconditional love is only one way. Humans are supposed to love god no matter what he does. God doesn’t have to love you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:23 PM
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How many men would continue to stay with their wives if she gained a bunch of weight, stopped having sex with him and belittled him? Unconditional love doesn’t exist between anyone I feel except parents and their children. And even then, some parents don’t love their children unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:21 PM
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If you beat someone senseless every night while married should beg continue to love you and think that you love them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:19 PM
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Most women in the US pay bills and support their families also with their income. It’s a fantasy that it’s not true. Most parents in the US do not have the money to live on one income. Hell, most single couples don’t have the money to live on own income. Women pay bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:33 PM
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This is not how this works in the US. The government is not allowing a woman to keep a house if it’s marital property
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:45 AM
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Is it “marrying down” if men claim that women’s finances and education don’t benefit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:44 AM
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No. If it’s determined that the husband is not the father he should not have to pay for it. But even if she points to the guy that got her pregnant and he can’t afford her child, she will be given government money anyway. Cheaters will cheat. Nothing will stop them from cheating. I understand wanting an assurance, but nothing is going to convince me that men that want the paternity test for every child his wife has actually trusts her. That’s just like someone coming home one day and asking thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:53 AM
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No we should not, our planet is going to be barreling towards uninhabitable in 100 years. Focus on creating a better , safer world, then I will feel better about bringing an innocent child into that world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:47 AM
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Uh no. Who is saying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:46 AM
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Why would she hide who the father is? Usually the women that lie about that shit do it because the real father is unavailable for some reason, or he wouldn’t be able to pay for childcare anyway. Also, why are you taking resources away from the child for something the mother did?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:40 AM
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How does pulling funding make sure the child is supported?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:03 AM
2

If your gf asked for an std test in the middle of horn relationship after never asking for one, what would you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:03 AM
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At what point can you stop paternity testing and just trust her? If she Carrie’s four kids for you, are you going to ask for a paternity test every single time? I would start to resent him asking after a while. Dude, shut up and take care of your damn kids that I’ve been dutifully popping out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:02 AM
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How? If he watches the child at all he an easily get snark he’d a sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:56 AM
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OP, when people phrase things this way, if automatically makes me think m “why should a woman want someone that thinks of her as lesser?” I know it’s not what you intended, but this just sounds like you feel there are certain women you should be able to get, just for the fact that you think they are less beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:33 AM
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Why not? If mens horniness reduced, we’d already have the tools in place to start having babies, especially since marriage for commitment and children would prob not matter as much. Why would the human race end? If men aren’t interested in sex we have ways to make babies. The issue is now that they are expensive. If they were cheaper more women would use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:30 PM
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That’s basically what women were dealing with for years, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:11 PM
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Not really. Reproduction services would be priced reasonably since natural reproduction would be lower. Better sperm available at banks, women could still have just as many babies. There would just almost no accidental pregnancies. Which is what religious people want right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:09 PM
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Not really. Reproduction services would be priced reasonably since natural reproduction would be lower. Better sperm available at banks, women could still have just as many babies. There would just almost no accidental pregnancies. Which is what religious people want right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:09 PM
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This. Most women that want the be seen as having a certain kind of lifestyle don’t care where the money comes from or how much the guy makes. It only matters what he’s willing to spend. That’s why some of the blue collar gfs are constantly only showing off their new stuff: their man has money and very little debt. They can afford to do a bunch of stuff because of that, despite him more likely not making six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:30 PM
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