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Anyone see the preview for the new movie 'Leap Year?' I feel so bad for the female character, because she cheats on her boyfriend and then when he proposes to her, she doesn't know who to chooooooooose!! It's so tragic for her!

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January 18, 2010
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Title Anyone see the preview for the new movie 'Leap Year?' I feel so bad for the female character, because she cheats on her boyfriend and then when he proposes to her, she doesn't know who to chooooooooose!! It's so tragic for her!
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Date January 18, 2010 1:26 AM UTC
(16 years ago)
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[–]waffleninja 5 points6 points7 points 16 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ElyHYh8DTo

I watched the trailer, and I still can't figure out how they were planning to drive across the sea (Wales to Ireland).

edit

and she never cheats on him...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_Year_%282010_film%29

also downvoted.

[–]kalazar 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just to be clear, if my girlfriend kissed another man, I'd consider that cheating. But you know, that's me.

[–]waffleninja 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...did you read the wikipedia article? They had to kiss so they could stay in the hotel. It's murky at best.

[–]InfinitelyThirsting 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So, if you had to choose between her sleeping in a ditch in a foreign country, or kissing another man? Better she sleep in a ditch than safe in a B&B?

[–]kalazar 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Life isn't a video game with only two choices.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I watched the trailer, and I still can't figure out how they were planning to drive across the sea (Wales to Ireland).

You could always walk. Along the ocean. If it's not too deep.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Ocean Walker

[–]InfinitelyThirsting 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She takes a boat from Wales to a wee town in Ireland, and then they drive to Dublin from there. (Yes, I saw it, I went with my mom.)

[–]waffleninja 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The trailer makes it completely clear.

[–]mdoddr 10 points11 points12 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Poor girl, which man will make her as happy as she deserves to be?

Reminds me of this film

[–]Bosniac32 4 points5 points6 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny, it reminds me of this other film. Pretty much the same thing except the genders are switched. Also, this one ends with the guy ditching the new girl and marrying his fiance.

[–]EvilGamerKitty 9 points10 points11 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny, it reminds me of every romantic comedy I've ever heard of.

[–]mdoddr 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

does he sleep with the new girl?

EDIT: Apparently she doesn't sleep with the new guy in "Leap year" so yatta yatta yatta. Not that bad.

[–]Exarch 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I was surprised to learn you speak fluent Cow."

Mmhmm.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow, like in Extract where the protagonist get's to cheat on his wife and get away with it, but is a victim?

[–]Zeroade 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Except his wife cheats around 20 more times than he does.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With a dude he hired. And she actually TELLS him. He doesn't.

[–]Zeroade 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did the dude he hired put a gun to her head and make her cheat? She cheated quite willingly. Twenty or so times.

He cheated once.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quite willingly.

[–]eataqueerfetus4jesus 6 points7 points8 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The chronicles of whoredom

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 16 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

This is actually typical female behavior, don't knock it, because it helps us evolve, here's the basic mating strategy:

Step 1: find a safe, secure, provider guy, who has a good amount of resources and is pretty much guaranteed to stick around to help rear children and take care of her (he gives her the diamond earrings in the trailer, so I assume he as a little money)

Step 2: go fuck an exciting rogueish "player" type, so that her offspring will have a better chance of reproducing, but then have the safe, secure guy raise the children.

This is the ultimate female mating strategy, and I'd like to note that most of this is completely unconscious on the woman's part. It's allowed us as humans to evolve into the current breeding/survival machines that we are today. If you want to know more, read the book "Sperm Wars".

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If think you're to trying to give genetic explanations to a social situation that hasn't been around that long. The nuclear family and choice of marriage partner gained prominence only last century.

If there is a genetic explanation, I think its got more to do with people being less discriminatory about who they fucked in the past, compared to modern times.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You misunderstand, I'm explaining this from an evolutionary psychological perspective, that is, theory based on thousands of years of human evolution.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And I'm saying up until recently human social organisation primarily involved small localised communities and extended families. So, the solitary guy who provides for his nuclear family is an extremely recent development in human history. You're trying to infer an evolutionary explanation for a situation that hasn't existed for more than a century.

[–]omgpro 11 points12 points13 points 16 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Just because it's typical doesn't mean it's good. "Evolution" isn't an excuse for selfishness.

[–]EvolutionTheory 6 points7 points8 points 16 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahhaa. Evolution isn't an excuse for selfishness? SURVIVAL IS! What do you think evolution facilitates? "fairness"?

[–]rmbarnes 19 points20 points21 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Natural selection has no concept of morality. There is no morality in nature. This means if we want to justify everything with, "It's natural" then we completely have to drop all our moral values, or else we're just cherry picking.

If we go down the nature route, all these things should be legal:

  • Rape
  • Physical revenge based on social slight by another
  • Sex with anyone young enough to conceive (varies, but say around 13 years old for a girl)
  • A man killing a single mother's kids when he hooks up with her
  • Women killing their babies
  • So much more...

It's worth noting that all though nature may give us certain instincts, we are able to overcome these impulses with rational thought. Following our instincts (emotions) often leads to short term satisfaction but long term dissatisfaction.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 16 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, only MEN are expected to suppress their "disgusting" primal urges.

Women are indeed encouraged to impulsively embrace their selfish, morally depraved baser instincts in our more fair, female liberated society. Because they're pure and everything they do is good automatically and by default. /sarcasm

[–]MinskP 5 points6 points7 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey, didn't you hear? Vaginas give an instant, distinct raise in moral superiority to whomever possesses them!

[–]AltTab 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, having a vag is like +25 to moral superiority.

[–]Gareth321 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You're placing far too much importance on instinct. A few millennia ago, I could kill you for looking at me funny. It might even be in the best interests of the gene pool, since it would prove I was the stronger. We have rules now because it enables a generally better level of existence for all those who subscribe to the system.

[–]rmbarnes 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You make a very good point, but your example is kind of flawed. It's actually very un-natural for a human to kill another human. If you look at apes when they fight, they often do a lot of damage though rarely is the loser killed (although this could in part be to do with the fact they don't use weapons).

[–]Gareth321 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps. I tend to think humans are quite vicious, and obviously much more intelligent than apes. We can see the benefits of killing a potential sexual or resource rival and plan ahead. Whereas I think animals tend to attack instinctively. As you say, we've also used weapons for a very long time.

Even if my example, instead of "kill", was "beat into submission and banish from the tribe", I think the evolutionary outcome would be similar.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're placing far too much importance on strength and aggression. Evolution simply favours suitability to the environment, and not any specific trait such as intelligence, athleticism or size. Take the success of cockroaches as an example.

Also, a few millenia ago, depending on where you were, you'd probably be living in a tribal village with an established hierarchy, traditions and standards of conduct that wouldn't simply allow you stroll around slaughtering at whim.

[–]Gareth321 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think we're on the same page.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"EvolutionTheory : redditor for 1 year"

Very nice

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Well, morality facilitates group survival, and group survival facilitates personal survival.
You're imposing the present on the past if you assume that human ancestors roamed the plains as individuals seeking to amass wealth.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In biology, evolution is change in the genetic material of a population of organisms through successive generations

[–]mdoddr 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

wouldn't it benefit an entire species?

[–]ymrhawk 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to have to agree with EvolutionTheory. We exist because life is unfair.

[–]faitheist[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

never thought of it that way ... interesting

[–]aliengoods1 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she doesn't know who to choose

Don't be ridiculous. Obviously she would pick the person with the largest bank acc.....er, best sense of humor.

[–]codepoet 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This belongs in /r/misogyny.

[–]RicoX9 4 points5 points6 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Howcome? It appears to be legitimate sarcastic ridicule of a typical Hollywood theme. Turn this story around, and the guy would be a sleazebag. Hold this kind of thing up to ridicule every time. It deserves it.

[–]InfinitelyThirsting 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except that she doesn't cheat on him. They kiss once, because they have to or they're going to be kicked out of the only room around, and only after much protest.

[–]DOGA 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Huh. Not sure what this has to do with MensRights. Does this mean complaints about shitty male fictional characters should go in /r/feminisms or the like?

[–]RedHawk 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Social double standard, pointing out he is. By posting movie link, OP has.

[–]DOGA 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure I agree. There are shitty male characters in movies everywhere, I don't see the distinction here.

[–]mdoddr 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The point is that a film can be based on empathizing with a woman who is cheating on a man who loves her and wants to marry her and society seems to think that the emotional needs of this man can just be shit all over.

To anyone who thinks about it it should be obvious that the male character is being treated very poorly by a selfish woman. Yet it's the woman who we are supposed to care and worry about.

Generally, one of the issues that surfaces on mensrights is that male emotional needs seem to be thought of as irrelevant by society. This is probably most obvious in cases of divorce.

[–]InfinitelyThirsting 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But she doesn't cheat. She and the Irish guy kiss once, after much protest, because they are forced to, or they will be kicked out of the b&b where they're staying.

And the man doesn't love her, he only wants to marry her so they can get into a snazzy apartment building, because it's a blue blood place and they don't accept just boyfriend-girlfriend couples. And then he admits this publicly.

[–]mdoddr 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah, I can't say that this film is actually an example. I've never seen it and know nothing about it. I was just explaining what point people are trying to get at. You have given the clearest explanation of the plot yet. At this point I think it is nothing to be upset about.

A better example would be the film "here on earth".

Again, I just wanted to explain what other people were thinking.

[–]Zeroade 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't see what media portrayals of male/female dynamics have to do with the men's rights movement?

[–]weclock 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lets be monoagmous... hahahhahahahhahah.

[–]smedvek -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't see what's wrong with this.

She's just trying to live her life and be happy. I'm sure the movie rationalizes her cheating somehow, or if nothing else, it's because she genuinely thinks she's in love with some other guy. It's not as if she's stringing him along for his money and out banging dudes off the craig's list, right?

[–]ymrhawk 7 points8 points9 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"She's just trying to live her life and be happy"

God this has to be the most often used excuse women give for cheating or just being a flake. I'm sure Tiger Woods was just trying to cope and be happy as well but that just doesn't fly as an excuse.

[–]mdoddr -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can you guess why?

HINT: the reason is similar to why it was okay for his wife to assault him with a golf club.

[–]Mitchellonfire -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This has so much to do with the rights of men, you guys! There's not a single bit of misogyny in here, no sir....

Anybody looking for a case against men's rights advocates by pointing out their misogyny would have to look no further than all the comments here. Good job for putting the movement back and making us all look bad.

[–]mdoddr 4 points5 points6 points 16 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the real problem is that people who frequent mensrights know what the point is so nobody bothers to explain it.

You see this is a great example of the double standards that men face. It is never okay for men to cheat. But romance films can be based on the premise of a woman cheating.

Take a look at some of the comments here accusing men of being misogynists for saying rude things about the character. Tiger Woods gets assaulted with a golf club and women around the world applaud. Nobody blinks.

But call a girl who cheats on her boyfriend a bad name and you're a misogynist?

I totally get your point though. This subreddit is horrible at forming a cohesive mission statement.

EDIT: just reading what I wrote, I'm horrible at forming cohesive thoughts also. tl;dr: It's about double standards.

[–]InfinitelyThirsting 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, bad choice of movie--she doesn't cheat. She and the Irish guy kiss once, after much protest, because they are forced to, or they will be kicked out of the b&b where they're staying. And, seriously, if you try to tell me men don't get away with a kiss all the time in films? I need to go to bed, or I'd provide a list of counterexamples right now.

[–]curseofthestots -5 points-4 points-3 points 16 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

sadly, this movie will make a nice profit... because every chick wants to have their cake and eat it too, sluts just act on it

[–]spacejewbanker 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not going to see it because the first thing I heard about it was the only time a woman can propose to a man is Feb. 29. Reading the imdb plot, it says it is a 'tradition,' but it still rubbed me the wrong way. He can propose to me when he wants, and I can do the same. Grrr. (Looks like it is sexist in a couple ways. )

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sluts are people, too. They also have dicks, as well.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dick in the mouth, cake in the vagina. They just get everything it seems.

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