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Two 25 year old women to be sentenced for sexually harassing 17 year old pizza courier (article in Dutch)

chriszon

October 20, 2021
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https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1819044531/25-jarige-vrouwen-voor-de-rechter-na-aanranding-pizzakoerier-17
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Title Two 25 year old women to be sentenced for sexually harassing 17 year old pizza courier (article in Dutch)
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chriszon

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Date October 20, 2021 7:25 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
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[–]Griz_zy 1439 points1440 points1441 points 4 years ago (155 children) | Copy Link

Translation/summary

One of the defendants opened the door in a bathrobe, thong and no bra and tried to seduce the boy inside. The boy felt intimidated by the two women in “SM-like clothing” and as there were other people who were having sex in the apartment, he thought they were shooting porn. After the boy was inside, because the women still had to pay, one of the women grabbed him by his crotch and said to him things like “This is the ultimate dream for pizza delivery boys. It’s our dream, let’s make it real.”. As the boy is a minor, the prosecution sees this as acquiring/making (not sure what the best translation is) child porn. The defendants said the boy looked 18 or more years old.

Out of resignation the boy touched one of the women but left the apartment shortly after with the message he needed to work. This incident triggered a panic attack with the boy, partially because he has been abused in the past. When his employer called the women for an explanation, they said “He did not want to fuck, you should fire him”. The boy still has panic attacks from the trauma’s they made him recall.

The prosecutor added the comment: ” How huge would the outrage be if the perpetrators were two adult men and the victim a 17 year old girl. For me there is no difference. The victim was overwhelmed and a minor. That is why this involves child porn. They are both responsible for sexual assault and the making of the pornographic video.”

[–]PatientPersonality46 444 points445 points446 points 4 years ago (122 children) | Copy Link

Alright good reasoning, but how long did they actually get? Words mean nothing when action doesn't back them up.

[–]WilliamOrOrange21 325 points326 points327 points 4 years ago* (79 children) | Copy Link

I haven’t read the article yet, but I’m Dutch. I’ll read it right after I write this, but Dutch sentences are relatively short, especially compared to America.

Edit: the final verdict isn’t until November 2nd. So gonna have to wait a couple of weeks longer until we know.

Edit #2: As expected the sentence was extremely light. 1 day in jail and x amount of community service.

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It's okay, femaledatingstrategy is just a really long way of saying /r/femcel

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2nd Edit:

120 hours of community service and must pay compensation of 750 euros.

Well that slap on the wrist was very unexpected...surprised Pikachu face

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[–]Ryju_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, that’s some bullshit

[–]JD26943 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

How does the Dutch legal system work? In America once you have a sentencing date you have already been found guilty. Any word on what charges stuck?

[–]Chojen 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The bottom of the article reads:

The court will rule on the case on November 2.

So it's not sentencing, it's the final judgement on the 2nd.

[–]WilliamOrOrange21 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like the other guy said it’s a ruling date, not a sentencing date. Not an expert on Dutch law though, just know from experience of a host of cases that sentences are very light comparatively.

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[–]genemaxwell4 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm confused, the AoC in the Netherlands is 16. So he's over AoC. How was this an assault of a minor? Or are they focusing on them attempting to make child porn? That I can understand and agree with.

[–]WilliamOrOrange21 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The age of consent is 16 for minors, when you’re over 18 you still can’t sleep with a minor, even if they’re 16 or 17.

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Ahh. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarity!!

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It's November 2nd, update?

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Not seeing anything in the article or on the news website as of now. It’s still only 12 pm so perhaps the case is this afternoon, but i’ll make sure to check this evening.

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Googled an update haven’t been able to find one yet

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So what was the final verdict? Can you update us please? Thanks in advance!

[–]totallynotaniceguy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's been 15 days. What's the verdict

[–]WilliamOrOrange21 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

1 day in jail and x amount of community service, absolutely ridiculous.

[–]totallynotaniceguy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WHAT THE FUCK?!

I mean, I think I heard that Dutch punishment is much less severe than in the US, but how in God's name is that going to do its job?!

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[–]Griz_zy 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link

It's still in progress afaik, but the prosecutor asked for 3 months prison. Which isn't much but it's The Netherlands, so I'm not actually sure how much of a pussypass that is or just lenient in general.

[–]kilaude 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

3 months prison

wtf is this serious? Not even 3 years would be enough for these predators.

[–]Gxl4 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

99% chanse that they will walk if it doesnt blow up in the media.. - pRiSonS ArE oVerFulL - so they will do community work for 14 hours like cleaning public toilets or trim some state-gardens and bye-bye. laws in Europe are a joke.

[–]staabalo 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the Netherlands. Prisons are so empty they have to be closed.

[–]DashboardNight 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We actually focus on rehabilitation here. It’s not our fault the US legal system focuses on getting as many people in jail as possible. It’s the only way privatized prisons can make money.

[–]staabalo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, prisons and the justice system are a hundred times better here than in the US. Just saying his argument of prisons being full didn't apply.

[–]Dirtypantomime 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Laws in America are a joke. We put 17 year olds in prison for a decade over 50 dollars of drugs. You are upset that somewhere there's someone not getting punished harshly enough. Talk about brainwashed! They say our media is Liberal 🤣😂🤣. Every legal post is full of Americans concerned someone needs more punishment. This country is a Fascist's wet dream.

[–]QEIIs_ghost -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

We put 17 year olds in prison for a decade over 50 dollars of drugs.

No we don’t

[–]Dirtypantomime 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

You aren't serious are you? In Cameron Tx the DA was bragging in her campaign about getting a 1st time offender ( 17 years old at offense) 99 years for selling crack to an undercover officer. Growing a single Marijuana plant in Texas is 5-99 years and you are an adult at 17.

We absolutely give teenagers 10 year sentences for less than a hundred dollars of drugs daily. So does Alabama. So do Florida and Louisiana.

https://www.nealdavislaw.com/criminal-defense-guides/texas-drug-possession-penalties.html

See for yourself possession of 1 gram of meth or cocaine, 40 to 80 bucks worth is up to 10 years in prison. If that's a delivery or intent to deliver the sentence increases exponentially.

https://lagniappemobile.com/banned-in-alabama-kratom-leading-to-local-arrests-stiff-criminal-charges/

In Alabama you can get LIFE IN PRISON for Kratom , which happens to be legal in 44 states, including the states on either side of Alabama. There is a 25 year old, with no priors, facing a 10 year mandatory minimum for a bag of Kratom he bought in a gas states 30 miles before driving through Alabama. Look it up. USA is crazy repressive with our laws.

[–]SolveDidentity 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You are so very very right. There are literal minimum drug sentences that place American children in jail monthly.

That "person" is a disgrace. Did you see how he doubled down on his false bullshit and cried like a baby?

Well I made a statement replying to his literal stupidity.

[–]QEIIs_ghost 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are 17 year olds really children?

Yes if you’re 17 year old drug dealer you can go to prison. We don’t however put people of any age in prison just for having a little bit of weed on them or whatever he said in his top comment.

[–]QEIIs_ghost -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Like we all expected, there were some links to possibilities. Kinda like in some cities it’s illegal to spit on sidewalks because they used to be made of wood in the 1800’s. OP above can’t win this argument with modern examples because they do not exist.

[–]SolveDidentity 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

WRONG. He proved you WRONG.

There are literal minimum drug sentences that land children in prison in America.

You should have just recanted your shit and retired. You should be ashamed. But like many "republicans" you chose to double down on your faults and lies. That's: fucking, psychopathy.

(Preface: being antivaxx is being a factual moron. Its not even an insult, it is a fact. It is 99% more a fact than an insult by a ratio of evidence; so don't be a inept creep by banning me for using a word that accounts an evidential factual definition. Which takes a minor amount of critical thinking to correctly analyse, and make a statement regarding such a equivocation.)

Your so basely blind and ignorant it's so fucking embarassing--it's s.t.u.p.i.d.. he literally proved you WRONG with facts and you deny it like a child, like an antivaxx moron does about the COVID vaccine on the daily.

You proved yourself a disgrace here. America is a proven disgrace as well.

[–]Dirtypantomime 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not possibilities, statutes. I don't know if you have a dismally low intellectual capacity, poor reading comprehension, or you just can't stand being wrong. Maybe a little of each.

[–]Bayonethics 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Ha, European prison, they might as well get them reservations at the Ritz for all the good that's gonna do

[–]QuintusVS 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Our prisons are focused around reintegrating people into society so they don't reoffend. It works much better than the cruel prison industrial complex the USA is running.

[+]Bayonethics -29 points-28 points-27 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

No it doesn't

[–]Dirtypantomime 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes, it does. Judging by your pathetic comments a French prison would be to rough for you, but they would appreciate your soft hands .

[–]FreedomFromIgnorance 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

French prisons are actually pretty damn shitty.

[+]Bayonethics -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh so I guess you've been in French prison before, huh? I guess the inmates got some good use out of your soft hands

[–]FourthBar_NorthStar 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yikes.

[–]QuestionVisible 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read Frank Abagnale’s book, Catch me if you can. They did a movie about him as well with Leonardo DiCaprio. In the book at least he described his time in a French prison. It was worse than anything I’ve heard before.

[–]QuintusVS 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

our crime statistics show something different but ok.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Say that to Anders Breivik that it works.

[–]QuintusVS 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow, you're an idiot. How many mass shootings have you had this year? Oh I just checked, it's 470. There's 365 days in a year.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And yeylt non have ever reached 77 dead and hundreds wounded.

And let the man basically walk as he can't be in prison more than 20 years.

[–]porkin4what 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

gun good, vaccine bad, and getting pegged good thats the only 3 things you know.

[–]Bayonethics -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's wrong with getting pegged? Are you actually kinkshaming?

[–]QuestionVisible 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So what do you do to your Charles Manson’s and Ted Bundy’s? Pretty sure nobody would want to reintegrate a serial killer.

[–]QuintusVS 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we give them life sentences in either prison or a mental asylum.

[–]AdKey102 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're asking 3 months prison.

[–]Im_Talking 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The defendants said the boy looked 18 or more years old

My goodness, the number of men that have been charged with statutory rape and not allowed to use that defence. There was one case where the guy met a girl in a 18+ nightclub and she even had fake ID and he still was charged.

[–]Khaocracy 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck can you charge someone for sleeping with a girl from a nightclub, in possession of a fake ID for being underage?

Was he supposed to saw her femur in half and count the rings?

[–]Soulless_conner 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He did not want to fuck, you should fire him?

What the fuck?

[–]gotbeefpudding 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm gonna say this to my coworkers lol.

"You don't want to fuck?! Fired."

Lmaooo what a weird thing to say after committing a heinous crime

[–]Smacky_Da_FrogIm owed back jack wages bitch 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The defendants said the boy looked 18 or more years old.

Not a defense that has proven reliable for any men that have faced the same charges in the past.

[–]saman65 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to buy that prosecutor a beer.

[–]7TageHatDieWoche 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Okay wow. At first glance I was like NICE! I mean, when I was 17, I would've loved this to happen.

But he was forced and grabbed without consent and the fact that he has been victim of sexual assaults in his life before, makes this an even more dramatic and horrible experience.

I mean, if the girls asked him without touching or anything and he replied yes, it would be okay, I guess.

When I was 17, I already had quite a proper beard at that age, not this kind of pubic-hair fluff teenage "beard", but an actual man-beard. So a 17yo can definitely look 18+ and with 25 you don't look that much older, necessarily.

But hey, doesn't matter who you are, don't touch people without them agreeing, BEFORE! Don't assume consent! Use your mouth, form a question with it and then you're fine. Just because it might be a fantasy of many delivery guys to stumble into a threesome, doesn't mean all of them want to

[–]BiggusDickus- 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea it doesn't matter how "old" the person appears. If two men came to the door like that and did that to a female delivery driver they would deserve to be in jail and nobody would think twice about it, and it would not matter if she looked like a middle aged woman.

This is exactly why women are so scared to take up jobs like this. They are afraid of being attacked and assaulted.

[–]Nesayas1234 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If the kid had been OK with that, alright, cool, whatever, let him have the fun. Granted he's 17, but that's another issue, and depending on the state/country might not even be an issue.

But once the kid says no, that's when you full stop. Sure they didn't know immediately, but once the kid said no, they should have said "oh my gosh, I am so sorry honey", paid him, and let him go.

[–]7TageHatDieWoche 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, 100% agree. I didn't say anything else ;)

[–]BiggusDickus- 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

If the kid had been OK with that, alright, cool, whatever, let him have the fun.

Sorry man, but NO. Absolutely not. It is never ok to sexually proposition delivery people, at all, ever. It does not matter if they are male or female. It does not matter how old they look, or if they appear attractive or not.

When people come to your door to deliver something you need to treat them with respect, and that means you answer the door fully dressed, and you act like a normal person.

Yea, I understand the jokes, or the idea that some young men would like to see this happen, but the reality is that a delivery person is only there to drop off the goods and then leave.

Do not do anything else to them, or make any other propositions to them, EVER.

[–]AlexanderGlasco 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The hell is this being downboated for?

[–]midnighfox696 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Simps and people who assume everyone shares their fantasies

[–]Connect-Profile-4164 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most teen boys would jump at the chance. They just got unlucky enough to find the one who didn’t want to. Or it was a regular thing they did. I think he’s nuts.

[–]BILLYRAYVIRUS4U -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He would have still complained. The situation would be no different. He's a pussy.

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[–]7TageHatDieWoche 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn... it's terrible, they did this... If they were just a little smarter to ask for consent, I'd love to be that Pizza delivery guy... Unfortunately they're criminals and beauty cannot and should not save you from a fair punishment

[–]MyFeetLookLikeHands 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

17 year old me would have handled that situation waaaaaaayyyy differently 😅

[–]undercoverbrova-8 points 4 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

Gat damn, I wish I could go back in time and be a pizza boy....😍

[–]Agorbs6 points 4 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

lol downvotes because dude feels like he’d be happy with a situation that (I would argue) most straight 17 year old boys would be stoked outta their mind. I remember being 17, this was literally the kind of thing teenage boys fantasized about. he’s not saying anything about the kid from the article, just something about himself. y’all gotta chill

[–]staabalo 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, fuck you and that guy. This is exactly why male rape isn't taken seriously. Keep it to yourself.

[–]Agorbs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it isn’t. The reason is because most people think men are absolute animals that only think of getting laid. Would I be agreeable to some models propositioning me for sex when I was 17? Probably. Would every 17 year old boy? No.

[–]Narrow-Adagio6762 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The thing is that boy was sexually abuse before, and definitely left some marks.

[–]Agorbs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, of course I wish this dudes lack of consent was respected. But it wasn’t, which is why it’s in this sub

[–]BasedCelestia -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit

[–]RevolutionRose -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm low-key upset that these girls overall seem fun and made the mistake of not taking consent..but they would have made a lifetime fantasy true for some other 18yr old

[–]Agorbs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, like literally the line between “fun sexually free women” and “sexual predators” is consent here (no clue what the age of consent in Belgium is). IF they…propositioned…in a different manner, and respected the guy saying no, then it would be a different story. Unfortunately, “no” only seems to matter when it comes from women.

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[–]utopista114 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good that they're prosecuted, but that dude is definitively gay. C'mon.

[–]Syvaren_uk 87 points88 points89 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

Fantasy to many men or not, if the person wasn’t into it then they should have just let him be. Coercion to get involved before he would get his money or be allowed to leave or whatever, is quite clearly crossing the line. If it were a bunch of super wealthy bankers with gold bars and heaps of drugs all over the place all offering to change the life of a 17 year old girl if she just got involved is suspect…but then coercing her to get involved then massively crosses the line. IMO it’s sexual harassment in both counts once it’s moved beyond an offer and into coercion…irrespective of gender

[–]Agorbs 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Right. Would I have been stoked as fuck if this happened to me when I was 17? Hell yeah!

Am I stoked that this kid got assaulted and likely given some trauma because these women assumed he wanted it? Not at all.

[–]ctsgre 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All they really had to do was order another pizza and the next dude would've been into it.

[–]staabalo 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or not harass working people and get someone off Tinder

[–]BiggusDickus- 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Fantasy to many men or not, if the person wasn’t into it then they should have just let him be.

They should have never put him in that situation to begin with! Delivery people deserve to be treated with respect. You aren't supposed to come to the door half naked and sexually proposition the delivery people, under any circumstances, ever.

[–]Gypiz 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

I mean you can certainly ask? Nothing wrong with that

[–]staabalo 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Men should be able to ask 17yr old delivery girls if they want to fuck too? While opening the door in their underwear? Good take my man

[–]Gypiz -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They're wearing underwear in their own home it's not like they're naked that's another story. And asking "hey we're having an orgy wanna join?" ??

[–]staabalo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sure, tell me when that happens to your daughter or something

[–]Gypiz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Bro that they basically tried to extort him should be prosecuted as attempted rape in my book. But asking is completely ok how fucking prune can you be?? At 17 you can fuck people that are roughly the same age wtf is wrong with that?

[–]staabalo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you do that at your place of work as well? I don't think HR would agree with you

[–]Gypiz 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes as long as theres no unbalanced power dynamic that's completely fine as well. Dating between coworkers is completely fine here and it's even illegal when your company tries to prevent that. May I ask in what backwards country you live?

[–]13speed 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You got dropped on your head by your mom quite a bit, didn't you?

Its NEVER acceptable to solicit minors for sex you bellend, and where I live can get you put into prison.

[–]Gypiz -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was talking about delivery people in general so did the comment I replied to... Also in most of Europe 17 - 25 would be completely legal

[–]BigPaws-WowterHeaven -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are other countries outside US? Crazy how nature do that

[–]BiggusDickus- -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

No, you can't. That is harassment, and when someone is alone and at a stranger's house it can be interpreted as very threatening and dangerous. Please tell me that you are joking.

[–]work4food 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

"Do you wanna have sex with us?" is harassment? Wow this is indeed the age of snowflakes.

[–]Agorbs 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, flip the genders around. It’s sexual harassment, the difference is that a lot of people think they’d be fine with it if they were in the same situation. I can’t think of any professions where it would be okay if a customer asked me if I wanted to fuck.

[–]Gypiz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Prostitution and escort?

[–]BiggusDickus- 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

When it comes to a delivery person that doesn't know you, that just comes to your door to drop something off? That is absolutely harassment and completely unacceptable. Someone is not a snowflake for not wanting to have to put up with that type of shit.

And it doesn't take much imagination for a woman to see that as a pretty dangerous situation if she is alone and shows up at a house where a bunch of men hit her up like that. And since it is pizza, maybe they have been drinking or getting high.

Seriously man, think about it. You don't do that shit to random people who are just doing their job and come to your do to drop something off.

Propositioning some stranger who is just trying to do their job is the very definition of harassment, especially when it is somewhere that may not be entirely safe for them.

[–]BCE407 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

You can ask someone anything. It's not rude to ask a adult if they want to do adult things. The problem here is it's a minor who isn't mature enough to make those decisions.

[–]BiggusDickus- 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It’s a matter of context. If you went around your workplace asking your coworkers to fuck you on a regular basis you would be fired in a week. Your coworkers are “adults” and it is absolutely rude to just go around asking them to do “adult” things.

Random people that you don’t even know? Yea it is rude as shit to just ask them out of the blue to do “adult” things. Get real. That is the very definition of harassment.

Delivery people are doing their jobs. They are not their to be propositioned sexually, and there are plenty of situations where something like that could absolutely make someone feel threatened. It doesn’t take much thought to think of a few.

If you can’t figure out why doing that kind of shit to delivery people absolutely crosses lines then you really need to think a bit harder bro.

Him being a minor has nothing to do with it.

[–]BCE407 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

You think people don't ask to hook up at work? Tell me you've never worked in the food industry without telling me. They are humans not slave robots. Humans have wants and needs. No harm done by asking someone if they want to partake. Sex, drugs, drink, food. No one is crossing a line simply asking. Granted there are asshole ways of going about it but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the idea that simply asking someone if they want to hook up is somehow offensive

Edit: I posted the same comment twice so I deleted the first one

[–]BiggusDickus- 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Granted there are asshole ways of going about it but that's not what I'm talking about.

Yea, well that's context. Propositioning a delivery person that you don't even know is not cool. That is being an asshole. Life is not an Austin Powers movie.

Look man, there was a time when delivery people were basically young adults that brought pizza and were down for anything. And full disclosure, I used to be one in high school. I also was a traveling pool boy in college. And yea, I was always game.

Today things are different. Everything is delivered. All sorts of "regular" people deliver stuff as part of their real jobs. Door Dash, Amazon, Uber Eats, you name it. These are not young stoners like I was. This is 2021, not the 70s/80s when we could drop off a couple of pizzas and then come back after work to party. These are people of all ages that just want to do their job and go home to their families.

So yea I get your point, but you need to understand that things don't swing that way with delivery people any more. That sort of stuff is offensive to them. People used to hit on secretaries too, but do it today and your ass will be fired in a heartbeat. Same deal.

[–]staabalo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not a fucking adult

[–]BCE407 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly I pointed that out in my original comment to the other person

[–]Gypiz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

17 25 is legal in Europe

[–]staabalo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a reason the court used the term "child porn"

[–]thermadontil 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

It gets better: "The two women appeared last year in the FHM500, the list of 500 most beautiful woman of the Netherlands. One of them reappeared this years edition."

They applied for the platinum pussy pass, but alas..

(source: NOS broadcaster site yesterday, translated)

[–]CazRaX 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus, this 17 year old beast drop kicked their ego into a new dimension. Top 500 most beautiful yet turned down by a teenager, that's gotta hurt.

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 254 points255 points256 points 4 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

I checked the translation. Apparently they lured him in and while one of the women grabbed him by the genitals, the other one was filming him. They were apparently just wearing thongs and bathrobes and didn't allow him to leave untill he touched one of them in return.

When his boss called the women to clear up what happened, they apparently said: "He didn't want to f*ck. You should fire him!"

The first part doesn't suprise me. I was sexually assaulted by women several times too, though I was lucky to be older than 17. The second part makes my stomach turn. The complete gall of these women ... disgusting ..

[–]robanthonydon 146 points147 points148 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It goes to show how women harassing men isn’t taken seriously in general. They were brazen enough to complain that he didn’t hang around to “fuck them”.

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 80 points81 points82 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Astounding, isn't it?

For how hysterical a lot of women are about perceived harassment, they sure don't give a flying f*ck about making us uncomfortable.

It's almost like women are above men for a lot of them. This is the actual disease: Sexist entitlement. Things like in the post are mere symptoms.

[–]robanthonydon 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean at least in this case his boss and the judge weren’t going to stand for it which gives me some hope for humanity

[–]JasePearson 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Problem is, I don't think we're all that good at seeing the perspective of others as a whole.

Women don't understand what it's like to be a man. They get fed bullshit like we're always up for it, that no man would refuse sex etc. Like some men, there's women who have no compassion for the other gender.

Being completely honest, a man being raped or abused is something I can "understand" and somewhat feel but as I'm not a woman I don't have that same understanding as to how they feel. I can have empathy but I won't understand their fear or perspective, just like women won't understand ours.

I think it's important to recognise that women aren't wonderful and men aren't monsters, it's completely in our capacity as humans to be good and absolutely evil no matter what's between their legs.

[–]HumaDracobane 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, when they had the audacity to call the employer complaining about himnot accepting to participate that says a lot about the topic.

[–]HiStupidAdmin 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their reply can be translated to "he didn't do what I want so he should be ruined". These are the type of women that have 0 consideration for anyone who is male.

[+]Cmon_You_Know_LGx-80 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (26 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Bowlnk 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its assholes like you, that we aren't taken seriously

[–]BloodRedCobra 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's assholes thirsty 40 y/o virgins who can't figure out how to go abroad and find a brothel like you, that are why we aren't taken seriously

FTFY

[–]DerButtMeister 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit its one of those pro-rapists! I always assumed most people were anti-rapist by default but here's one out in the wild! Tell me sir, how does it feel to go against 95% of the population?

[–]BloodRedCobra 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

The thirst is strong with this one

[+]Cmon_You_Know_LGx -48 points-47 points-46 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Thinking that it would be great to be greeted at the door by 2 blondes wearing nothing but thongs and open bathrobes and then invite you to touch them is thirsty?

Mate I think you might just be gay as that’s a dream scenario for 99% of straight men.

[–]BloodRedCobra 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

"You might be gay" or monogamous, in a committed relationship, not fond of STDs, not fond of getting pornographically recorded, not cool having sex with strangers, not okay being touched without invitation, just trying to do my job and get paid and have other shit to deliver... Shit i might be a long list of things and gay is pretty low on that list. But you wouldn't know that, because when you've never had anyone love you or be intimate with you in any form, the desperation for something is all you can think about isn't it? Find yourself a brothel mate, may as well lose your virginity before you crack and do something uncouth.

[+]Cmon_You_Know_LGx -36 points-35 points-34 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Nah I think you're just gay. Nothing wrong with that though, each to their own I guess.

[–]BloodRedCobra 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spoken like a true thirsty boy

[–]RedCrayonMuncher 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

U need help man, go to a therapist. Your thought process is warped af...

[+]Cmon_You_Know_LGx -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You need to go get your testosterone levels checked mate, don’t worry about me.

[–]SerjoHlaaluDramBero 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You need to go get your testosterone levels checked mate

You play League of Legends and you openly admit that you are desperate for any ounce of female attention.

Your testosterone levels are no mystery.

[–]BloodRedCobra 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh he armchairs competitive eSports we already know his testosterone would make a 90 year old look 13 on a lab result

[–]Cmon_You_Know_LGx -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah yes PC games good one little guy.

[–]TheChowder000 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you trolling or unironically an animal that is purely driven by his sex drive?

[–]Cmon_You_Know_LGx 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this trolling? In what world would it not be a great day if you knock on someone’s door to be greeted by 2 scantily clad blondes who pull you in and try to hit on you?

That’s quite literally a dream scenario for 99% of guys but people on this sub are just complete fucking weirdos claiming that they wouldn’t want it.

[–]ItsCold_ItsCold -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair that’s most people.

Edit: why are you boo’ing me? I’m right

[–]staabalo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They were both models. Doesn't matter though, not everyone is horny 24/7 and not everyone wants to join some random sm party

[–]Alarmed_Mechanic_403 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes and no. If something like that happened to me age 25 and older, it would be a fond memory, sure.

However: It's all a matter of timing. That boy was probably too shy to approach a girl his age. Two women eight years his elder molesting him won't help with that, probably push him even further away from a healthy relationship with the other sex.

There is a reason doing this to underage boys is illegal. He can't handle it, so women will just frighten him further, adding trauma to his insecurity and lack of experience. Terrible incident and complete recklessness and perversion on the women's part.

[–]VaccineNeutral 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's working like cmon he doesn't want to get fired.

[–]makeadolfgreatagain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go jerk off bud, we can smell the desparation through the screen.

[+]Primus_the_Knave -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean I see the defendant’s point: this is literally a porno.

I’m looking at this as they just got the wrong dude: (1) dude was under age, 17 versus 18 + working so fair assumption in my eyes, and (2) they probably just thought he was nervous rather than scared.

This literally could have been an amazing story had he been any other dude.

[+]Cmon_You_Know_LGx -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t think the age of consent is 18 anywhere in Europe, it’s 15-16 for most countries so he was of age. Either way he just walked into every mans dream of having a real life porno play out for them but bottled it.

[+]Primus_the_Knave -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone said they were charged with child pornography for filming the incident.

If the kid said “I was pretty sure they were planning on selling my organs” I would have said fair play, but nope dude just got lucky… I mean really lucky, and was traumatized.

(This is all assuming these women are at LEAST a 6, if not I’d be traumatized too.)

[–]AdderallAllTheTime3 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They'll get a few weeks at most.

[–]Bowlnk 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Depends if the child pornography charge sticks.

[–]AdderallAllTheTime3 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Few months, then

[–]MoistCheddar 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They will probably get away with community service . Th Dutch legal system is shit

[–]Bowlnk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1 day in the cell and community service, fuck me i know my country was lenient but this is rediculous. Fuck male minors i gues, the justice system doesn't care if the purp is female.

[–]shura30 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

were they trying a /r/pizzadare ??

[–]QuintusVS 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's disgusting.

[–]karateema 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't they know that porn is fake?

[–]Twerkatronic 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their defence was that they were drunk and high on NOx

If this guy DID consent, they could have gone after him for them being unable to give consent.

[–]Cliff-Gamer 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol they’re women. The justice system will give them a few weeks of jail time. If it was a man he’d be in jail for life

[–]anon691337 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

women only want one thing and its disgusting

[–]greentshirtman 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Pineapple on pizza is delicious!

[–]Reggae4Triceratops 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now is not the time!

[–]undercoverbrova 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not pizza that's Hawaiian cheese pie

[–]Skibo1219 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

not anchovies?

[–]degeneratedetox 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love anchovies

[–]JubzAlmighty 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

bUt MeN cAnT bE sExUaLlY aSsAuLtEd

[–]Thiccboi_joe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The woman got charged with child porn so the sentence will be higher. But yeah if this was a man it would be looked on more seriously.

[–]Nefarious_Donut 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They will be sentenced next to nothing. They will still get their pussy pass

[–]staabalo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We have no juries so I'm not so sure about that

[–]Suck-Less 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Reverse the genders and it would have been considered an attempted rape. Just saying

[–]El_Baasje 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Luckily that's exactly what the prosecutor said: 'imagine the genders being reversed'.

[–]Hyrtz 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Disgusting... I am moving to Netherlands ....to prevent this from happening to anyone

[–]obispook 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

These seem to be the ladies from te story: https://i.redd.it/sfua8klylfu71.jpg

Edit: nsfw of course.

[–]gordgeouss 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No fucking way

[–]utopista114 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I live in the Netherlands, yep, these are everywhere.

[–]Rock555666 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus fucking christ lol now I understand why my international college buddies from Europe were so picky and also nonplussed when an interested hot chick came their way

[–]Imcoleyourenot 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow

[–]staabalo 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am so fucking glad we have no juries here. The judge is almost cerrainly going to treat this similarly to how it would be treated if two men sexually abused an underage girl.

[–]GaryOldmanrules 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

” How huge would the outrage be if the perpetrators were two adult men and the victim a 17 year old girl. For me there is no difference. The victim was overwhelmed and a minor. That is why this involves child porn. They are both responsible for sexual assault and the making of the pornographic video.”

This is the meat of the story, and its good that the public prosecutor understands this.

Its attempted rape and child pornography.

Its quite sad that they will pay very little for this thanks to pozzed laws...

[–]Dankhu3hu3 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I don't get is that they could easily have found a guy interested in playing the role to the end... Why?!?! That would be my dream come true but they choose to abuse the kid.

[–]JadedLitigant 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

>according to men's site FHM, they are among the 500 sexiest women in the Netherlands, but if it is up to the Public Prosecution Service, Amsterdam's Cato van der K. (25) and Michelle de K. (25) from Alkmaar will both go to jail for three months. charged with assaulting a 17-year-old pizza delivery boy.

Sexually assaults a minor, films it and thus creates an abusive image of a child....

Gets 3 months.

How in the fuck is this PPD?

[–]staabalo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact thay they got prosecuted AT ALL is pussy pass denied

[–]ntkwwwm 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Guys who aren't fucking will say that he should have gone with it.

Guys who are fucking understand that he might be in a relationship with someone not worth lying to everyday.

[–]Trophallaxia 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Guys who know boundaries understand that he does not need a reason for not wanting any sexual acts with strangers.

[–]Agorbs 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ah fuck I just said the same thing but you said it better. wild that this has to be said

[–]Agorbs 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Relationship status aside, it sounds like he made it clear he wasn’t interested. That alone is enough.

[–]eshinn 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good on the manager for not replying: “You right! He’s a stupida boi. I maka yu pizza no charge. I deliver it myselfa. See you inna twenty menuts.”

[–]GyaradosDance 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The boy/girl looked 18 or more"

Is the most common excuse. Benefit of the doubt, I'm sure it's very true considering let's face some facts, there's no way to tell the difference between a 17.5 year old and an 18.1 year old.

I'm not defending child rapists. I'm just saying that we as a society shouldn't feel afraid to ask someone their age, or insulted to be asked that question. Over communication can help deter these kinds of stories. Yeah, I know it's not that sexy to be soo blunt/forthright, but if they look like they could be high school or college age, better to ask.

Side note: if you find someone drinking at a bar, that doesn't mean that's proof they're over 21. The bar/restaurant/club is not held responsible.

[–]Benjamin-Doverman 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf

[–]walkertxstranger 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

!remind 15 days

[–]STAAAAAAALE 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]Manjeric0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Update:

They got THREE MONTHS in jail for assaulting a minor and trying to produce CP. I'd say the pass was very much granted.

https://www.archytele.com/three-months-in-prison-demanded-for-two-suspects-assaulting-17-year-old-pizza-delivery/

[–]Newkker 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why couldn't it be me :(

[–]Charlie71_2 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope they get punished as if a man because it so very wrong either way.

[–]lookiecookie_1001 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ffs, 3 months is way too low for this. I know the Netherlands is lenient for some reason to pedophiles but still. This isn’t ppd. It’s said way too often but what if the sexes were reversed? If this were 2 men “proclaimed my some women’s magazine to be in the top 500 hottest men” doing exactly this to a 17 year old girl, they would be ostracized from society. These girls are probably being seen as heroes by toxic people (both men and women of all ages) and will learn nothing in those 3 months. They should talk with actual sexual abuse survivors and be forced to learn what it’s like to be in such a situation. These women are predators. They are sick. The Netherlands is sick for only demanding 3 months.

[–]TehBoneRanger 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At first I was like - that lucky SOB. But it looks like he had some trauma in the past, that's freaking terrible now.

Them girls better get some jail time for this.

[–]Reggae4Triceratops 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even my wife doesn't grab my junk without consent (though tbh sometimes I wish she would). Can't imagine doing that to a complete stranger and thinking that would be okay.

[–]Optimal_Wendigo_4333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Because the boy is a minor, the pervert women are facing justice. If this were a normal man who happened to be an adult, the cucked up system of Europe would spit out his case and he'd get arrested.

Dont marry/date Western women.

Edit: there haven been an amazing number of whiny bitches commenting on my post. Listen up, dumbasses. I'm American. I have the right to comment on western women!

[–]Dmyers23 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck off you nonce

[–]Optimal_Wendigo_4333 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No thanks. I'm busy fucking your mom. LOL.

WTF is your problem anyway?

[–]Twerkatronic 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How did this become a generalized issue for all of western women?

[–]Optimal_Wendigo_4333 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Because western women have the higest rate of cheating (80%) and initiating divorce. And they have the highest rate of getting amimony and custody (90%). In other cultures not so much. Thats why.

[–]thebiggesttroller1 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Marry/date western men instead.

[–]Optimal_Wendigo_4333 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You first.

[–]empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Check out /r/pizzadare to see this type of shit regularly

[–]Samurai_1990 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok not going to DV but link in a google (puke) translation as it has a popup I have no idea what I'm agreeing to other than its cookies...

[+]Spamsational -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Terrible, absolutely terrible...

Does anyone have the video?

[–]detektiv_Saucaki 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A time and place dude, a time and place-

[–]maxman162 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like this.

[–]StummyHurt3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its fucked but im bricked up rn . Time to slang some pizza

[–]wittekat -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think the boy is gay

[–]staabalo 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or not a degenerate

[+]Dad-man -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Niiiiccceee

[–]_redditor_in_chief 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hot Girls Seducing A Pizza Boy is only an €18 Euro fine. You can just mail that in or pay it online.

[+]juan_cena99 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree rape is rape, the kid obv didnt want it. However I also feel like these 2 girls are kinda unlucky as a significant portion of the male delivery population would def be willing to engage in sexual acts with these two women. Its just that they happened to run into a guy who didnt want it and they should have left him alone.

[–]seriously269 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.vkmag.com/magazine/modellen-voor-de-rechter-voor-het-betasten-van-17-jarige-pizzabezorger

A photo of one of them is at the bottom of this page. I can say, as a pizza boy, I would have been a two pump chump.

[–]Idesmi-2 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I doubt it. You are working, and for a job that pays very little. You want to avoid any possible risk to lose it.

You wouldn't be up for it, even if you claim otherwise.

[–]juan_cena99 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a low paying job so even if you lose it, it wont matter as much. You can also call your boss beforehand and tell him you have some matters and will be gone for an hour or so. Unless you've been a deadbeat employee it should be fine with your boss if you give advance notice.

I'd def be up for it, did you see the pic? They're pretty hot. Lots of men would be up for casual hookup.

[–]Washboard-Parker -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[+]Cuntofaman -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Was he gay

[–]RowdyRoddyRhyming -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol what a goofball. Bang the shit out of those women. God bless their souls.

[–]LarryLongBoob -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel bad for the kid but this is also most men’s dream. Unfortunate they didn’t get an adult.

[–]jeanking -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That kid is a Pansy lol

[–]staabalo 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking rape apologist

[–]MiteeThoR 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe this was in Penthouse Letters 30 years ago

[–]Dotty345 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

!remind 15 days

[–]TheAphander 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

!remindme 15 days

[–]Oweeo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SMH

[–]league359 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mooi

[–]Jaydak54 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

!RemindMe 15 days

[–]WildKing2G 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Geh

[–]tsj96 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1920637139/een-dag-cel-en-taakstraf-voor-aanranders-minderjarige-pizzabezorger

[–]Ohnonotmethemanwho 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would just be afraid they were trying to take my organs it would just seem too good to be true unless of course they were land Whales or something

[+]PunctuationsOptional -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol.

[+]Wrath7heFurious -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Unpopular opinion, I'm not a fan of this kind of reasoning for a sexual assault charge. I think grabbing his crotch was a tad too far but making advances because they thought he was of age seems ok.

[–]iWorkAtRedbox 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

imagine if a man grabbed the crotch of an underage girl. is that okay if he thought she was of age?

[–]lllooolllp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just downvoted your thread.

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[+]who_that_guy227 -17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have seen this one before.

[–]Immediate_Designer33 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Wow 😣😳 it's sad

[–]Maelarion 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Fuck off you karma farming bot.

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Maelarion 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Definitely trying to farm karma as quickly as possible.

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Maelarion 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The person I originally replied to, duh. Does that really need explaining?

[–]Maelarion 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is that relevant lmao, u/ovariesdevourer

[–]OldeSmeller -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What kind of pizza was it?

[–]Squidkiller12 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Not like the simulations

Edit: for clarification not talking about guy talking about women being sentenced

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