Does anyone else think sex is a very gender guarded topic right now?

local_meme_dealer45 · 2021-11-01T22:20:16+00:00

Ah yes, women using their bodies/sex to exploit and get what they want from men.

A tail as old as time.

AirSailer · 2021-11-01T17:20:09+00:00

Watch the second season of The Island and you'll hear women make fun of small penises and joke about eating testicles and other terrible behavior. Go to a Chippendale show and compare the behavior of women to the behavior of men at a strip club. Either example shows how women view and treat men as subhuman.

OpinionatedDad · 2021-11-01T19:17:13+00:00

I find that no one wants equality they say they do but they don't truly want it because true equality will remove benefits.

No one wants to be treated like a cog in a giant wheel they want to be treated like they need something they want to be treated like they are unique and different.

But I'm sorry to say every single person is replaceable and every single person should be treated the same as such.

That's not to say that experience and knowledge is at the table it's more like just because you are a different form of a human being doesn't mean that I treat you like a different human being.

Everyone is equal so treat everyone equal that includes the benefits. Either remove all benefits of being a different kind of human being then another or everyone gets the exact same benefits.

The more we entertain that people are different the more they'll want to be treated differently

falante788 · 2021-11-01T17:43:53+00:00

Oh, boy you don’t know about the potency trials do you, feminists are evil and have rewritten history to depict men as evil oppressors and women as innocent victims

McFeely_Smackup · 2021-11-01T23:22:44+00:00

this is really not new, it's been this way for 20+ years.

Female sexuality is celebrated and held up as beautiful in every form it takes. Like a lot of sex, good for her! Masturbate all day, she's taking charge of her sexuality. Toys, absolutely!

Male sexuality though is recognized as base, gross, disgusting, and something to be ridiculed. a man masturbating is pathetic, god help him if anyone finds out he uses a toy to do it.

nikQXOdZSPL0BIh · 2021-11-01T19:10:59+00:00

Women feel like they have "social pressure" to have "pretty" labia and genitals = the greatest crime ever committed

Men have half the skin of their penis and most of the sensory nerves non consensually amputated the day they're born = normal and good

ImportantResults · 2021-11-02T01:03:14+00:00

That's the gamma bias, a cognitive distortion where certain traits are highlighted depending on the sex of the doer or receiver of an action.

A representation inspired by a table I saw somewhere:

Γ	Good	Harm
Doer	Specially celebrated when done by a female, generally ignored if done by a male	Specially just repudiated if done by a male, generally given a justification if done by a female
Receiver	Considered part of a privilege if received by a male, considered positive if received by a female	Extra outrageous and victimized if received by a female, dismissed or given a justification if received by a male

What you mentioned can be expressed in a table.

Γ	Male	Female
Asks for sex	Pervert / Primitive	Brave / Liberated
Suggests having sex	Predatory / Disgusting	Generous / Modern
Has aesthetic standards	Shallow / Misogynist	Her Choice / Tells the truth
Has other standards	Entitled / Shamer	Her choice again

Society will highlight anything positive about women, which is gynocentrism, and highlight anything negative about men, which is misandry.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2021-11-01T18:04:03+00:00

Incel for men = Slut for women
Both sexual shaming, women for having too much sex, men for not having enough sex.

sleepyJoeBidet · 2021-11-01T21:46:29+00:00

Hell yeah my wife's friend divulge their sex lives with their husbands all the time.

My friends would never talk about their sex lives with their wives, it's considered disrespectful and perverted.

SpanishM · 2021-11-01T18:17:19+00:00

I think this is because they see themselves as weak and delicate flowers.

Despite the "women power", the "strong women" and all that, they are always claiming they are victims of everything and hurt by everything.

If that's not emotional weakness I don't know what it is.

kvakerok · 2021-11-01T17:59:46+00:00

Man wants to fuck woman = he sounds like a creep

No, it's heavily appearance-based. If you're attractive, like 8+ out of 10, nobody will say a word, even some heavy faux pas will be forgiven. If you're not that attractive of a male this world is just a nightmare to live in. The lower you go on the attractiveness scale the more you'll be treated as a creep.

Man asks for sex = predatory

It's not that it's predatory, it's that it's a massive faux pas. For comparison, I got directly asked for sex by a female only 4-5 times in my life, only one of those in public by a stranger, completely wasted teen. It's a massive vulnerability exposure for them, and a big cultural no-no. On the other side, I've never in my life asked any girl for sex, I just made a move (for example went for a kiss, 80/20 rule) and they were either DTF or they weren't and I ended my advances right there.

Realistically, an unattractive man won't even end up in a situation where they could make a move. You see that in some YouTube clips of talk shows. An attractive female star shows up to do a movie plug and one of the co-hosts gets a full hug and a cheek peck, while the other, unattractive and overweight goes for it too and gets a handshake instead.

Harry_Teak · 2021-11-02T02:40:16+00:00

The only thing being more rapidly demonized these days than male existence is male sexuality.

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2021-11-02T03:07:16+00:00

That's not exactly new. It's a double standard that's been around a long time.

The irony is that the reason it seems perpetually new is precisely because of the prior existence of the double standard.

When a woman is called a sl#t, people are shocked, dismayed, and offended. Not at her behavior, but at the fact someone chose to use that word. For this reason, the word is not used nearly as often as it would be if was considered bland and descriptive. Sl#tty behavior is simply not described at all to avoid "sl#t shaming".

By contrast, you can call a man a "horndog", "sleaze", or even "dick" or "asshole" and nobody bats an eye at the language you have employed. Nobody raises an eyebrow and says "hey, that's a very offensive and not nice thing to say about that man". Nobody says you are wrong for "asshole shaming". They just take note of whatever the man did that led to his being labeled.

Over time, people notice that a lot of men are "sleazy", but very few women are "sl#tty". Of course, that is not true, sex is equal between the sexes. It is just that female sexuality is not spoken of. Or it is spoken of only in terms of how men reacted to it.

Take a strip club. How would someone who doesn't view "sl#t" as a dirty word - someone who is simply interested in observing and is actually non-judgmental- describe what is happening at a strip club?

They would say a woman gets up on stage and acts as sl#tty as possible in an attempt to attract men's attention. The men actually play an extremely passive role in this. All they are doing is watching and occasionally tipping. Often, not even that. Most are just there for their buddies bachelor party or whatever and are embarassed and bashful so they don't really watch much. Still tip, though, because you do not want the bouncers to hurt you.

But most people cannot bring themselves to say or even think the verb in that sentence. Calling even a stripper "sl#tty" would be offensive.

So instead, how do we describe what is happening? We say the men are lusting after the women. We make the women the object of the sentence rather than the subject. We describe it as though the men are the main character, rather than the woman who is actually center stage. It ends up sounding like the men are making this happen with their eyeballs.

Then we blame the sleazy men for "objectifying" the woman with their "male gaze". Because they are all just "assholes". And saying that does not make you a terrible, judgmental person.

So, people grow up hearing about how all of the sleazy asshole men were out lusting after the objectified women again. And occasionally someone describes what is happening accurately and is taken to task for "sl#t shaming".

And the cycle continues.

BrotherhoodofMen01 · 2021-11-01T20:20:35+00:00

I think things only change for the better when we \Men change them. Remember, Men made this World, but femanists have systemataclly been destroying what we built. They haven't replaced it with anything better, just destroyed what was aready built. Like a toddler kicking down a sand castle, just for the hell of it. The family unit, destroyed. Relationships, destroyed. Gender norms, Destroyed and on and on.

This has only been allowed to happen because we Men have been asleep at the wheel, and some deluded Men have sided with the destroyers. Now the dragon is awaking, and Men are starting to call out the B.S. We have stopped entertaining their nonsense. Calling out, and pointing out the lies told by femanists,

We let women know that their bad behaviour is unacceptable, and we won't entertain it. We won't have a meaningful relationship with them, or marry them. Now their crying into their wine and asking where have all the good Men gone? Well you drove us away with your bad behaviour.

To answer your question of what we can do, it's simple, don't back down. Don't accept lies and stop trying to be a good guy. Don't be afraid to call a spade a shovel. A women wears a very low cut top, and catches you looking at her boobs, then chastises you for it. answer with, "Yeah right! You wore that so Men would check out your shoes. Grow up! You know what your doing."

Throughout history, things have only changed, because Men changed them, so let's change things.

Girl_Dukat_ · 2021-11-01T19:38:25+00:00

Men with tits phenomenon. Women act aggro the way they think a guy would act and call it empowering.

It speaks to a few things, namely:

1) the unacknowledged dichotomous differences in sex/mating strategies that each sex excels at implementing;

2) women thinking men want strong women or are intimidated by them so, moar stronk women behavior equals more sex;

3) false thinking that women can “reclaim” spaces by being hyper masculine

4) women cannot read a room and assume men are fungible (this is probably most important point)

Men fail at this too. Assuming a weak position so the AggroCu*t gets her way and sees you as the WK she can dominate never works as a mating strategy.

It’s not fair but it IS the situation. Women have been taught to hate femininity and female duty, all while ignoring, overlooking, fundamentally misunderstanding, under appreciating masculinity and male duty.

Occasionally (/sarc) you’ll get a “why can’t I have it all” lament from some bint who wants to know why single-mommery is so hard. It should serve to underline why sexual dimorphism and “gender roles” work so well, but it doesn’t, and instead pushes for more feminism to combat…natural law.

kapriece · 2021-11-02T04:13:15+00:00

let me add if you leave them alone altogether them you're labeled the same. certain reddit subbed have been banned for encouraging men to stop dating, avoid marriage, and not participate in society. Doing this is a lifestyle choice but was labeled as a heated group. you can't even protect yourself without being labeled.

cascadett · 2021-11-02T04:48:13+00:00

It's not bad to ask for sex, you have to be careful about the way you do it. Stop pinning the blame on feminism all the time. Feminism is women trying to live like humans, learn the definition.

And this: "And that's another one. It's worse to shame a fat girl than a guy with a small dick... Even though one of them is completely out of their control." This isn't all of the women, if you find a woman who does this, obviously don't do anything with her. There are way more women who don't care about that than you think. Blaming feminism just widens the rift between feminism and men's rights.

Believe me, I care about men's rights as well, but these types of posts really hurt everything. You don't see us bash men's rights?

OneWithItAll8 · 2021-11-01T17:50:58+00:00

As soon as you start saying what women are like these days, you get labeled a misogynist incel. Insulting women is taboo in our society and telling people how women suck will get you ostracized immediately.

DouglasWallace · 2021-11-01T19:36:23+00:00

I think the only change is feminist hogwash.

I'm too old to bother chatting up women any more but I think if I did, I'd start with "Are you a feminist?" If they answer 'yes' or even hesitate, I'd turn away (run!). So long as they give an emphatic 'no', I could behave like a normal human being with them.

3gm22 · 2021-11-01T20:50:03+00:00

Yea that is what post modernism and marxism combined with athiesm will get you. The biggest whiners get preferrential treatment and justice goes out the window. This is exactly what the "modernists" did before their inheritors killed all opposition and began the century of murder in france, which eventually led to the bolsheviks and the deadly secular state led by stalin which killed the most humans in history.

This is nothing new. It started with no fault divorce where it was implied that the rights(needs) of parents are more important than the rights of kids, which deatroyed our families. Then we saw alimony (entitlement is implied, at the expense of the bread winner). Then with abortion (it implied that dysfunctional people are disposeable and can be killed which now applies to elderly). Then with homosexual marriage (implied that nuclear families are not priority in society, even though thats the primary way we make moral people). Then homosexual adoption (implies that we dont need mothers and fathers). Every time they legislate something secular or post modernist, it makes implications that are destructive to us all. This destruction destroys society and a tyrant takes advantage by coming in and "normalizing" the situation with government applied tyranny (authoritarianism, usually dictatorship or communism).

It has and will only get worse until we all push back against their idiotic ideas, including secularism. Sorry secularists, its the truth. Secularism champions post modernism and moral relativism, which causes chaos, and becomes the fertile ground for authoritarianism, which makes the state God and persecutes dissenters.

Thats why dems and canadian libs now ignore constitutions and bills of rights btw, they reject teuth and order with moral relativism.

Tigarana · 2021-11-01T23:11:35+00:00

I definitely agree that there is a trend of applauding women behavior, that would be frowned upon when it would be men showing the behavior (e.g. being sexually assertive). I however still have the impression that slut shaming is still waaaaaay more common then applauding assertive behavior.

What is your impression there?

Low-Pace-7553 · 2021-11-02T02:54:27+00:00

Yeah there shouldn’t be anything bad with women wanting/ asking to have sex with men/women and men wanting to have sex with men/ women. I’d say as long as everyone is consenting, it’s a good time had by all. Anyone who thinks it’s creepy to be sure the other person is on board, is an asshole. Just my opinion.

skepticalbob · 2021-11-02T00:19:51+00:00

Bruh, you sound like these aren't your real problems at all.

Title	Does anyone else think sex is a very gender guarded topic right now?
Author	MMAjambo
Upvotes	284
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Date	November 1, 2021 5:06 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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