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Julie Burchill, a Feminist: “When the sex war is won prostitutes should be shot as collaborators for their terrible betrayal of all women.” I wonder what she has in mind for men after the feminist victory if mere collaborators are shot? Skinning?

accidental_me

January 21, 2022
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Title Julie Burchill, a Feminist: “When the sex war is won prostitutes should be shot as collaborators for their terrible betrayal of all women.” I wonder what she has in mind for men after the feminist victory if mere collaborators are shot? Skinning?
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Date January 21, 2022 4:54 PM UTC
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[–]awsdlefthandbutton 60 points61 points62 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I wonder what she would define as a 'sex war' and what constitutes a win.

She comes across as a sad person who says anything for attention.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, one really has to wonder. It's just plain illogical and/or delusional to push for men to be effeminate because women aren't attracted to that kind of man. They push for control over men, but then are attracted to the man who won't give control to her. I'm really starting to think many women are as clueless about how women work as many men are. The only other explanation is it's a way for them to test men to find one who actually has a backbone. It does seem like a lot of women get very bitter and resentful when they don't find a guy like that who wants them back.

It seems pretty clear that they think winning means women have all the privileges and no responsibilities while men have no privileges and all the responsibilities. They just fail to realize that if they actually got that, there wouldn't be any men they'd be attracted to.

[–]accidental_me[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It does seem like a lot of women get very bitter and resentful when they don't find a guy like that who wants them back

There is a theory: when sex is liberated -> women, as gatekeepers -> decide who fucks whom -> and end up wanting the same men as other women -> which leads to the most attractive men -> getting the upper hand, after all -> and most -non-alpha - women getting betrayed eventually -> which leads to most women "hating" men.

[–]WingsofSky 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's two different types of women.

  1. Some are more down to Earth.
  2. The others don't know what the fuck they want.

[–]MrMagick2104 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

> women aren't attracted to that [effeminate] kind of man.

Either this is a way too broad generalization, or a way too broad use of "effeminate", because surely there are women that are attracted to femine personas.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well sure there's women that will take an unmanly man after they are unable to get a man they're sexually attracted to to commit. Women seem to have a strong desire to get married, which seems to be a lower bar than the bar for a man a woman wants to have sex with. So those marriages usually end up in a dead bedrooms and a frustrated guy.

[–]Rolaid-Tommassi 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A truly terrible human whose own son committed suicide and her response was "it's nice to see that men can at least do something better than women".

[–]Man_of_culture_112 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

[–]trgrngr 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another spec on the pale blue dot. People like this take things far too seriously, including themselves. Luckily it’s still our choice to take them seriously or for that matter, acknowledge their very existence.

[–]ZS_1171 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“When the sex war is won prostitutesshould be shot as collaborators for their terrible betrayal of allwomen.” I wonder what she has in mind for men after the feminist victoryif mere collaborators are shot? Skinning?

Sounds like Nazism, rather than equality. if some need me to elaborate, i will.

[–]SurvivingSociety 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't really need you to, but it could be entertaining if you did. I'm a man of context, after all.

[–]ZS_1171 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This might get me banned but here we go.

The idea of feminists shooting innocent prostitutes as they are "collaborators" sounds much like the way the Nazis shot innocent jews, poles, blacks, asians, slavs, serbs, and russians as Hitler thought they were collaborating against his regime.

God knows what other kind of genocide methods RadFems have in mind...

[–]MGTOW_and_Bitcoin 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow and they look at mgtow as terrorists

[–]MyBlades 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What's with all the female incels having platforms to spread their bullshit? Either we muzzle all incels, male and female or we should let male incels write for The Guardian and appear on TV as well. Let them debate each other, it could be funny.

[–]63daddy 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

One would think feminists would support free choice for women and allowing women to do with their bodies as they wish. The problem with prostitutes for feminism is that it decreases sex as a leverage in male-female dynamics. Women freely choosing to have sex also diminishes the feminist argument that women having sex is only due to men oppressing women. Any woman freely choosing to have sex is therefore an enemy of feminism.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

allowing women to do with their bodies as they wish.

They mostly all seemed to like that arrangement when men still played by the old rules and there were plenty of men around willing to marry her when she was ready to settle down and start a family. They seem to have not anticipated that men would ever adapt. They seemed to think men's sex drive was so vast they could get away with more and more without limit.

It does seem feminism has split. One side recognizes women have lost leverage by sex being more available to men without the commitment of marriage. The other side is the women should be free to do what they want and that promiscuity/onlyfans/etc is somehow empowering.

[–]Broadside_Beers 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

There's a very good reason that (from the outside looking in) there seems to be a lot of hypocrisy (and there is) in feminism around the subject of women's sexuality and promiscuity. I believe we have the emergence of onlyfans existing in stark contrast to all the efforts to crim the "sexual objectification of women" causing a large number of people to experience cognitive dissonance.

This dichotomy in feminism started around the 90s. The feminist ideologues (like Dworkin, Daly, Atkinson, de Beauvoir, Greer, MacKinnon, Bindel, Jeffreys, etc) had been busy describing "Tha Patriarchy" and all the ways in which women suffered under it, supposedly.

Pornography became one of the leading topics by the 90s, and this led to the split which could be essentially described as "sex-positive feminism" vs "anti-porn / sex-negative feminism."

The sex-positive side believes that sexual freedom is an essential component of women's freedom. They oppose legal or social efforts to control sexual activities between consenting adults. And that in doing so deliberately fight against the oppressive control of sexuality by, you guessed it, Tha Patriarchy.

The other side believes that female sexual promiscuity is an extension of male privilege, male dominance, and further promotes misogyny, rape, violence against women, so on and so forth, which is also Tha Patriarchy.

This is actually a great example of showcasing that despite all the different feminist subgroups, the core ideology remains the same.

Both sex-positive and the sex-negative/anti-porn feminists agree on the core tenets of feminism: that women are oppressed, and men are the ones oppressing them. They just have different ideas on what the solution is.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the breakdown, history, and background on it.

[–]Broadside_Beers 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You’re very welcome. It’s something that I had spent some amount of time researching and talking with feminist colleagues about because it was baffling to see only fans being celebrated but “objectification of women” being demonised.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is it two separate camps or is there some level of overlap where a group supports both sides (e.g. the women in onlyfans being celebrated while demonizing the men who are paying those women) and being in denial about the hypocrisy and lack of logic in the position?

[–]Broadside_Beers 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism doesn't really have clearly defined groups because one of the inherent traits of feminism is resistance to definition and a lack of self-awareness.

When this dichotomy first appeared amongst feminists there were individual feminist icons that took a clear side in the debate, but since then there hasn't really been an effort to "separate" the two "sides". You can see how they have done this with TERFs; where a large portion of feminist adherents kind of globally accepted that there needs to be a way to differentiate feminists who are pro-trans and anti-trans, but there hasn't really been the same effort for sex-positive vs sex-negative. Most of the differentiation happens within feminist circles as a way to discuss differences in opinion.

There are certainly ideas that blend the two concepts, and even in the act of that blending, you see different conclusions (as you aptly pointed out with the hypocrisy of celebrating women who profit from onlyfans whilst also demonising the men who pay them).

One example is female prostitutes should be free to do as they wish and their prostitution should be legal and non-stigmatised, however, men who purchase sex from prostitutes should be criminalised. Female promiscuity and female sexuality are sacrosanct, but any man who dares to participate in aspects of it (namely the purchase of it) is a villain. Yes, this baffles me too.

On the other hand, one of the other stunning feats of mental gymnastics is that the difference between onlyfans and "objectification of women" is that onlyfans is an expression of the power of the individual, the woman engaging in it profits from it, and consents to it - whereas other places where the objectification of women occurs is subjugating the individual, etc, etc. So for these people, sexual objectification of women is wrong, unless the woman is directly profiting from it... from which the logical conclusion would be the act of sexual objectification isn't sinful in the first place - so what exactly are women liberating themselves from and how is sexual objectification harming women...? Yes, this also baffles me.

[–]accidental_me[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One strong feminist idea is to blur all lines - except the one between good and evil, men and everybody else. This is probably the main reason why it often impossible - and unbearable - to read or listen to feminists.

[–]Halafax 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s a mistake to assume there is any sort of split. It’s just a matter of convenience, so individual feminists will lean whichever way favors their interests at that moment.

We frequently get told that “feminism is a big umbrella” and there are lots of different kinds of feminists beneath it, but the differences of opinion tend to be temporary depending on situation. Feminists are lot more uniform than they want to admit.

[–]Vegetable_Ad6969 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism as a movement doesn't give a shit about women's individual agency. Just look at how they treat women who don't conform to their beliefs. "Pick me's", "attention whores", all phrases used to marginalise women who don't subscribe to feminism.

[–]DavidByron2 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you think there's only one thing you can do you're not going to want blackleg labor undermining the union rates.

[–]vague_obscenity 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical feminist, she wants to use sex as a tool to control men, she wants to be a gatekeeper. Just Google her picture, she is an absolute toad of a woman, yikes.

[–]aigars2 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds more like extremist fascist. I know fascist is over used but this might be spot on.

[–]ThatOneCrusader1 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same chick who constantly says women are in danger more than men I bet

[–]Comfortable_Ad_574 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tbh, expected nothing less from a feminist.

[–]DanteLivra 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aka sex is bad and you should all feel bad about it.

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[–]DownVotesWrongsOnly 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based. But holy shit is that woman's life a trainwreck.

[–]men_first 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We are not people to Feminists, they do not think of Men and Boys as human beings, we're just "Oppressors"

[–]CryingMadGirl -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow… I have never felt this amount of misogyny. And I use that word very lightly. I hardly even notice it not do I ever care about it, even if it’s towards me. But this… this hurts. Wtf????

[–]Mycroft033 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Curious, why do you use that term?

[–]CryingMadGirl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because that feminist is saying we should kill women who do things she doesn’t like, I just feel like she hates women and men lol

[–]sleepyJoeBidet 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It won't be won till all men are dead. And reproduction is fine it a tube. So there is no plan for men after the victory.

[–]Chudsaviet 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is a troll.

[–]SandmanOrpheus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.

[–]RandomHuman2354 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How are even prostitutes collaborating against men. And they way she is implying that sex is bad and everyone doing that should be killed, she is really dangerous for her biological mom(her biological mom had sex).

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she doesn't sound like a very good lay.

[–]ShiZniT3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is why jesus loved a prostitute?

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A feminist, example one. Also feminists: feminism is good.

Make up your mind, ladies.

[–]Algiz56 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that she is a paranoid schizophrenic, and really needs help. And maybe a truck of drugs to stabilize her state of mind. Or two.

[–]True_Statistician267 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism should be diagnosed as a mental illness.

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