Will Smith Megathread - Posts not in this thread will be removed

boringcarpets · 2022-03-29T07:43:05+00:00

Some things I noted

Baldness and equality

"Alopecia" is now the buzz word however, in medical terms, is no different to male pattern baldness. This is now being promoted as being a severe disease that women "suffer" from, such that you can never joke about it. The violence seems to be being justified because of this. Now, we're no strangers to double standards but, baldness in men has been mocked mercilessly for decades and probably even longer. I'm not saying we should get the fainting couch out, but if this is grounds for violence are the avid defenders of baldness going to start sticking up for men who hit their female partners if mocked for being bald? Of course they won't, but how is equality applied? As always, it's different.

Toxic masculinity and benevolent sexism

Toxic masculinity is now an old buzz word, now it seems it's fine to revert to violence, especially when 'defending the honour' of a woman. Amusingly it has shown up the idea, and hopefully it's dropped, but we know it will be dragged out again - bad for bad things, good for good things, good things being where it benefits women. See also Ukraine.

It's also another example where proxy violence is just accepted - men commit the crimes for the women, on their behalf, while the women sit distanced from it with clean hands - this needs to stop, because the only people receiving consequences are the men involved. Ever thus.

Mental health

Clearly WS has unresolved issues and resorted to violence, and it's clearly/widely noted as related to his marriage (but doesn't necessarily have to be). The example he should set is to not be a part of something he doesn't agree with - walk away. Maybe he's being coerced (financially or otherwise), maybe he can't reconcile what many men his age go through - the end of a decades long relationship, and change in family dynamic in which he had put so much stock. Either way, it's not healthy, and men should observe and identify issues in our own lives that require action before an outburst occurs, because after the fact you can see there is no sympathy or help.

Legal consequences

As a Hollywood A-Lister he will face no legal consequences. It should be observed that normal men will not have this privilege - violence even in 'defence' of your spouse will not offer the opportunity to be on stage to a standing ovation. The example set, or lesson to take away is to never be Will Smith, and to avoid having a Jada in your life

TitanicPat · 2022-03-29T09:40:04+00:00

I realized my own unconscious gynocentrism over the Chris Rock joke.

My initial thoughts were that Chris' Joke about Jada's condition crossed a line. I was mulling over the whole debacle after a day when the voice that's always playing devil's advocate chimed in with "Would you care if Rock's joke was aimed at a balding man?" And that really shocked me.

I realized that Gynocentrism is not something that goes away once you're aware of it. You have to be constantly checking for it, in your initial takes.

I was wondering if anybody else in this group has had similar experiences?

mdktun · 2022-03-29T06:32:14+00:00

Will Simp megathread

boringcarpets · 2022-03-29T10:28:10+00:00

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/chris-rock-not-will-smith-is-the-hero-men-need

Greg_W_Allan · 2022-03-30T06:48:16+00:00

The number of women who believe their upset feelings warrant others doing violence on their behalf is quite revealing.

EnIdiot · 2022-03-29T13:46:40+00:00

Society sees nothing wrong with telling jokes about men being bald and having “small dicks.” Yet when a similar standard is applied to women it is somehow “wrong.” How would each of these scenarios play out?

1) “Christina” Rock (female) makes the same joke and Will Smith slaps her.

2) Chris Rock makes fun of “Jason Pinket Smith (M) and Will Smith (M) slaps him.

3) Chris Rock makes fun of Jada Pinket Smith and “Willamina Smith” (F) slaps him.

4) All of them are female.

5) Jada Pinket Smith slaps Chris Rock herself.

6) Jada Pinket Smiths in full view of everyone slaps Will Smith for laughing.

7) The joke is about Will Smith having a small dick and being bald, Jada laughs at him and he slaps her.

I could go on several other iterations, but it is clear that there is a double standard among genders and sexes and orientations that isn’t fair or healthy.

Here is the truth: If you slap someone for something they say that insults you, you are in the wrong.

If you defend yourself against violence with violence, you are in the right.

If you refuse to use violence against an attacker (and you could) you are restrained and acting nobly.

If innocents who cannot defend themselves are being attacked violently and you choose to help them by responding actively, you are doing something heroic.

fuzijo · 2022-03-30T13:27:54+00:00

women support toxic masculinity when they can weaponize it for themselves

mikesteane · 2022-03-29T10:34:48+00:00

And everyone thought it was his wife who was the slapper.

MCAlleycat · 2022-03-30T16:58:58+00:00

All I want to add:

The fact that somebody getting slapped is a controversial and newsworthy story in the first place, shows how little actual prominent events like WW2 mean to the people of today.

Alarming_Draw · 2022-03-30T23:02:19+00:00

Simple straight question for mod-has this megathread utterly killed the MASSIVE momentum that had formed in the wake of the Will Smith incident?

Yes or no?

If no, please explain. If yes, please do not do this next time.

Alarming_Draw · 2022-03-29T02:47:53+00:00

Wait what? You're not SERIOUSLY saying any Will Smith debate NOT posted here will be removed are you? If so that's an OBSCENE abuse of power to DELIBERATELY stifle debate - the event raised a RANGE of issues within mens rights.

If I've misunderstood let me know and I'll apologise and remove my post.....

Icy-Start5536 · 2022-03-29T08:08:42+00:00

What a simp! I bet Chris Rock will be banging Jada Pinkerton-Simp pretty soon.

RunawayGrain · 2022-03-29T12:44:40+00:00

the Oscars are just sliding towards irrelevance. I didn't hear about it until I caught a few articles about it on Monday. Chances are good this was staged to forestall that slide into oblivion just a bit.

elebrin · 2022-03-29T14:58:46+00:00

The one thing I haven't seen or heard and don't understand - WHY did Will Smith slap whoever-it-was?

boringcarpets · 2022-03-29T16:23:46+00:00

These two absolutely nail the whole saga. On point throughout: Aba & Preach - Will Smith Exposed Our Society

Speed_Trapp · 2022-03-30T11:44:42+00:00

Idk I stand with Will. Rock has been on her shit for 6 years now and has been hiding behind comedy to do it. It’s just weird at this point and I feel like this is the straw that broke the camels back. I feel like men should be able to take up for their families and people.

And really he’s not even not being held accountable because of his status, Chris isn’t pressing charges. Chris is a high status man. If he wanted to press charges, will smith would probably be fucked.

As far as mental health goes, mental health shit is stigmatized when it comes to men, even high profile men. Look at Johnny Depp.

You must be reminded that he is being held socially responsible. People are saying that he probably beats his wife. That’s a major blow to his reputation, and with third wave white feminist women, it doesn’t matter if it’s true. Anything to build an oppression narrative for the statistically least oppressed demographic of women in existence.

They always say that all men until no men because “men don’t hold other men accountable”. The only reason they’re going for Wills throat is because he bitch slapped that narrative in the face and they can’t have that, so they have to accuse him of beating women.

At least that’s my take. I really don’t support police intervention in most situations so I’m biased.

This isn’t male pattern baldness. Her immune system attacks her scalp and hair, and women don’t suffer male pattern baldness because they do not have the same hormonal compositions as men, so even if it was the same, I’d still disagree, as it is a different issue for women. Male balding is normal. Female balding to the point of baldness is abnormal.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2022-03-29T02:41:38+00:00

First.

redblue2021 · 2022-03-30T00:11:45+00:00

I remember a guy in high school who was relentlessly bullied for mom being "promiscuous" ever since she got a divorce. Not sure how this particular rumor got started, but kids started joking that the guy and his mom had a incestuous relationship.

One day in freshman english, we had to make a satirical poem for Valentine's day. Bullied kid reads his poem that had nothing to do with his mom, but some teacher makes an innocuous comment on how corny it was he could give it as a gift for mother's day.

Kid ends up cussing out the teacher and flipping his desk over towards the teacher.

There's only so much a man can take mentally. Sometimes unrelated things just trigger a person over their limit.

Title	Will Smith Megathread - Posts not in this thread will be removed
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Date	March 29, 2022 2:13 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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