how to get our message out there like feminism did?

63daddy · 2022-06-13T17:04:08+00:00

It’s difficult when society is gynocentric and when media and academia have already aligned with feminism.

I think one tactic is to focus on an issue and use targeted information where it has impact and it has to be an issue with broad appeal. For example, if most parents understood how biased education is against their sons, the MRM wouldn’t have to fight this battle, parents would be fighting it.

Similarly target areas that will have impact for example targeting states that are still considering whether or not to adopt an equal presumption of joint custody or not.

I think the MRM has to break the cycle of woke indoctrination occurring in education. Once people adopt woke and feminist agenda, it’s very hard to turn around later, it needs to be attacked at the source with more accurate information. I think this will be extremely challenging, but needs to happen.

John_Savage69 · 2022-06-13T19:07:44+00:00

People do not understand the decades' long march of institutionalized radical feminism. They started by taking over academia. Through an initial message of inclusion and tolerance they were brought on, then shifting to parity/quotes, led them to dominate. Now they have enough institutional power to dominate and control/regulate academic thought. Allowable speech in academic institutions is increasingly narrow---and that ideology gets "taught" to students and then brought out into the workplace and broader society.

You CAN'T change the paradigm/increase the message unless you control higher education. And there is no way to do that currently, because dissent from "the narrative" is not allowed.

mikekh9 · 2022-06-13T17:13:07+00:00

We face this problem all over the world. In my place of residence, we have the same problem of not having the media. Freedom of expression is just a slogan. They eat bones. It does not matter I continue.

ISmellLikeBlackTea · 2022-06-13T19:37:13+00:00

It’s literally impossible, due to the obstacle of craving. It would be very easy for men to stop the world in its tracks, if we came together and stopped indulging women. This will not be possible so long men are ready to place their ideals and gender as second for the possibility to sleep with a woman, impress them, or present themselves as macho, and “not like those pussies”. The situation changes in times if war, and countries where there’s a larger ratio of women.

oafsalot · 2022-06-13T20:26:34+00:00

No matter how loud you are there is always some feminists present to shut you down and silence you.

I've seen this in college, in university, in work, in my social life. They just never stop blaming men for everything and trying to hurt men as much as they can in every way they can.

Forsaken_Mode_2173 · 2022-06-13T17:21:17+00:00

First we have to organize a rational perception of our situation, like feminism did. Until there, we can't get too far.

Pepperclue_55 · 2022-06-14T02:50:02+00:00

Start adovcating for specific things, centralize the GOALS. Do we want both sexes drafted? Etc

Having actual achievable demands is the first step imho. What convinced me to listen to my male friends about MRA stuff was first when they said they wanted a simple thing: presumption of 50/50 childcare nationally. I said, well duh isnt that a thing?!

It was a common ground, achievable goal.

RoubandoMerdina · 2022-06-13T22:43:01+00:00

You can't. Women don't care about weak men. Weak men talk about their issues. Men care more about women than about other men. Most of them because they seriously believe that it maximizes their chances at getting laid or a girlfriend.

Do you see where this is going? Weak women crying about their problems? You get the women showing same-sex solidarity. You get the men who want to be their crying shoulder to, hopefully, get some of the coochie. Then you add some other men who'd actually find their cause unfortunate and sympathize with them.

Weak men crying about their problems? Most women are repelled by that, so they won't care. Most men won't care because they get nothing out of it. Only a small part of the population, the empathetic people, who find their cause unfortunate and sympathize with them will actually listen and care about it.

Do you want the tables to turn? It will take time. Wait until all the simps realise they get nothing over being the crying shoulder. Wait until they understand they'd be much better off working with similar individuals to directly address their issues, rather than praying some woman will take pity on them. If you want to make it happen faster, be harsh with the simps. One thing is for sure. True feminists will never be a part of any equality movement, especially if it means only helping men. Check out Erin Pizzeys life story and you will know exactly what I'm talking about. The ones who are femminist and also support men, they actually think feminism is about equality just the thay it is propagandized. Those didn't investigate further and probably don't care much about it, they just want to be part of the herd before the herd turns on them for whatever reason.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2022-06-13T20:52:34+00:00

I haven’t kept up with what’s happening in South Korea but I’ve heard they’ve been getting more active and vocal there.

SecondEldenLord · 2022-06-13T22:21:48+00:00

It;s very hard when most of the culture now is left leaning and anti-men. We are few while they are many. Feminists enjoy their power way way too much to just let it go just like that. Woke culture destroyed men a lot, we became so unpriviliged and so miserable in thsi day and age, it is not even funny.

3DemocracyActivist · 2022-06-14T03:15:38+00:00

By promoting direct democracy as well as raising awareness about the laws and about how these laws are dictatorial. I'm pretty sure the majority of women are not misandrists and would not vote for discrimination against men. 99% of men and women, did not write the misandrist laws that we live under, nor did they vote for them. They were never asked to vote directly for or against them. Misandry has been dictated onto society by the government, but if you put a piece of paper in front of your average man or woman, that said on it "should men face harsher punishments than women yes or no" I'm pretty sure the majority of men and women would tick the no box.

I think a lot of people have got the chicken and the egg the wrong way around. Why blame the public opinion, when the public didn't write these discriminatory laws? Blame the government opinion, and the system that gives the government pretty much dictatorial authority, that's the root of the problem. Problem = "representative" "democracy", potential solution = direct democracy. I can't guarantee direct democracy would solve this problem but it certainly isn't going to make it any worse. So I think it really could be much more simple than a lot of people realise.

So my advice is to do what I do, which is to raise awareness, but also to promote direct democracy, because without direct democracy, even if you can manage to raise awareness, and get people to agree that misandrist laws are wrong, you'd still be living under misandrist laws anyway, so direct democracy is important for the next step in actually getting rid of these laws and replacing them with equality laws.

DavidByron2 · 2022-06-14T03:27:23+00:00

Feminism got it’s message out because it has academics and a stream of articles in media outlets

Feminism got it's message out by working for the US imperial government to undermine the Left as a fifth column. FBI type of thing. You know, like Gloria Steinem. The imperial government pays them billions and promotes their bigoted ideology.

It seems journalism is just relaying the news

Journalism in the USA is a propaganda job. It's the opposite of relaying the news.

how do we get our message out and loud like feminism did?

Start hating men and aiding the 1%

pacsatonifil · 2022-06-13T21:24:24+00:00

With female allies, our sons if we have them, and being open with our friends and families. It is hard, and it is scary, but we can do it.

papabherd · 2022-06-14T00:20:29+00:00

You can't. At this point in time, the best you can do is look after yourself and those around you. That may sound selfish, but know that whatever argument you make - no matter how cogent - will be dismissed and invalidated because their default position is to undermine yours. And any man who backs them up gets a pat in the back for smugly doing so. Communication and reason only works when the other party is willing to cooperate in good faith.

Al_Modir · 2022-06-13T18:59:40+00:00

Go to uni. Develop a these. Research and write it.

gamerlololdude · 2022-06-14T01:15:34+00:00

What would you like to get out there?

Maybe it’s possible to do advocacy work for your cause with organizations directly.

Frosty-Gate-8094 · 2022-06-14T07:38:34+00:00

Feminism was apty supported by simp politicians and religious leaders.

Although a lot of women support MRM, they aren't in high enough positions to affect a political change...
We will have to wait and watch..

Or just withdraw from the society and let the welfare system collapse without taxpayers..

Either ways, feminism loses.
Whether humanity wins or loses, depends on how the scenario plays out.

orione16 · 2022-06-14T15:47:10+00:00

Unfortunately I don't think becoming a journalist will help. I worked as a journalist and you don't get to decide what you write about, unless you are self-publishing. It sounds like you're talking more about a mainstream blog. The issue with most blogs is that they just don't get seen.

I really feel where you're coming from but I don't feel it's possible to do what feminism has achieved in the same way. I believe it is important to get the truth out there. I'm just not sure of the best way to do it.

Title	how to get our message out there like feminism did?
Author	rochesterslim
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Date	June 13, 2022 4:43 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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