Feminist construction company pitched on TV show Dragons Den. Gets rejected, extremely cringeworthy

carbonnanotube · 2013-12-15T00:11:54+00:00

Mike Holmes has done more to get women into the construction industry than they ever could.

How? He just taught his daughter his trade like a normal person.

TunaSammich · 2013-12-15T00:54:02+00:00

Lol this lady is so delusional.

"I get frustrated when you want to change something [...] and the reason you can't is because you're a woman"

I wish I could just slap some sense into her. They rejected her because of her sexist business plan, her inability to listen to anybody's opinion, and also likely due to her misunderstanding of basic mathematical concepts such as percentages.

PennyCapitalist · 2013-12-14T21:22:52+00:00

This is feminism in a nutshell. They propose an idea which is not hard to demonstrate is bad/won't work/not based in reality/whatever. When people point that out, they just get emotional and defensive. When their idea fails, it's never because it was poorly conceived or poorly executed. Nope, just misogyny.

123vasectomy · 2013-12-14T23:32:06+00:00

Nope

Couldnt possibly be her fault for coming to them with a hairbrained idea and delivering it in just about the most awkward and dismissive way possible. Must be the patriarchy..

femdelusion · 2013-12-14T21:14:51+00:00

What was she doing? Trying to shame them into believing that 0.15a + 0.05b = 0.2(a+b)?

I know they edit it to make it seem worse, but still...

Clauderoughly · 2013-12-14T21:02:30+00:00

It would be an illegal business anyway. You cannot employ women in construction only because they are female. A decision is not allowed to be based on gender. Sometimes you have female only taxi companies but they are not allowed to be run as a business that makes a profit. It has to be run as a chairty.

2013-12-14T22:31:42+00:00

you want to change something, and the reason you can't is because you're a woman

Look at that victimhood complex.

The reason she can't change anything is because she's a fool presenting a business based out ideology rather than, you know, business.

It was amusing, how quickly they identified the classic feminist arrogance and dismissal of any possibility that they could be even slightly wrong.

knifpearty · 2013-12-14T23:34:55+00:00

This is so sad. Why do they always play the victim card at the end? I mean, it’s hard out there and it’s no way easier for men. What were they thinking?

pocketknifeMT · 2013-12-15T14:03:27+00:00

There are plenty of far more capable women already in business who don't need to preach female victimhood.

Notice too, how at one stage one of the women moans about men working on building sites prefer men and that is a bad thing, but their pitch was based on the "fact" that people "prefer women in their homes". So sexism is fine when it seems to benefit feminist women, but not when it doesn't...

Jesus_marley · 2013-12-15T03:24:57+00:00

It was mildly satisfying to see the gaze of the Dragons visibly harden when the petitioner said "because we're women" when the dragon offered a simple critique of their flawed math reasoning.

Their automatic donning of the mantle of victimhood was painful to behold. Especially when the critique offered was kept in simple terms, not because they were women, but because it was not at all necessary to use actual numbers instead of low theoreticals. Hence the 100 pounds vs 150,000 pounds.

thegavin · 2013-12-15T11:48:45+00:00

"We have plenty of anecdotal evidence that says people prefer women in their homes".

Anecdotal evidence? You mean no evidence?

Alzael · 2013-12-15T02:17:44+00:00

The full version is even better to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiEOd7Ks8xk

ThatGuyWhoDidAThing · 2013-12-15T15:49:44+00:00

These people though.

"I get frustrated when you want to change something [...] and the reason you can't is because you're a woman"

No, it's because one person does not a social movement make.

Rufert · 2013-12-15T04:20:45+00:00

Oh god the look the female Dragon gave to the woman who was pitching when she dropped the "well we are women" was so stone cold I got chills. But shit, even after that, she was still willing to give her another opportunity to give her pitch again.

2095conash · 2013-12-15T12:57:06+00:00

Dear god I haven't seen percentages that off since I was in high-school.... And even then the students who sorta implied that 2 businesses= 200%, as she thought, were either joking or had a brain fart that they almost immediately corrected.....

And even when the business woman is trying to point out to her refusal to listen to ANYTHING being said, she STILL refused it. I sure as hell hopes no one invests in this woman, businesses need to ADAPT when push comes to shove shaking your head and saying "Nope, no, not happening." Doesn't magically make it rain money, meanwhile WHEN she failed, if she got the money, she wouldn't even learn a lesson, she'd just take her attempts to force women in all jobs to another area, calling consumers sexist and all....

And dear god she came so close to making a prime example for why her company isn't the best idea HERSELF. "When you have 20 men and 1 woman applying...." YOU'VE GOT ONE WOMAN APPLYING, SHE COULD BE SHIT, DOESN'T MATTER IF THAT SINGLE WOMAN ISN'T HIRED BUT YOU NEED TO QUESTION WHY THERE ARE 20 TIMES MORE MALE APPLICANTS.

That said, her...... 'desire' to have more female construction workers is one that I guess I'm for, in that having the opportunity and such is good and all, but if she REALLY wanted to sell this business she'd really benefit from 'knowing' how women magically don't have the opportunity in other companies, even if not to get investors that would be one HELL of a great marketing thing "All my competitors require applicants to have a certain penis length!" or something would really make me not trust her competitors, yet that PRIME 'fact' that she believes exists, she didn't even bother to find a way to bring it to the table......

She's got a huge chip on her shoulder and thinks that when she draws a circle it's a new creative idea that's so revolutionary that it'll make millions, that just because her competitors are drawing cubes it doesn't matter how f-ing detailed or colorful or anything they do because they aren't circles :/

mrwhibbley · 2013-12-16T13:16:23+00:00

So 5 business people worth billions know less than a woman with a failing business model? And the reason they wont listen to her has nothing to do with her attitude, behavior or the fact that she sounds like she just ran a marathon. It has to do with the fact that she is a women. Got it.

2013-12-14T20:56:10+00:00

Jesus Christ.

caxica · 2013-12-15T18:19:18+00:00

dat wheezing

PortalesoONR · 2013-12-15T20:27:22+00:00

This is one of the most crige inducing things I saw this week.

Awuful presentation, awful idea, awaful attitude, awful fucking everything!

2013-12-15T02:29:10+00:00

Without a basic understanding of percentages she has no reason to even try starting a business.

notnotnotfred · 2013-12-15T05:01:17+00:00

op: thanks for introducing me to dragon's den.

CanadaMRA · 2013-12-15T03:44:22+00:00

I almost feel bad for the woman on the left who barely said anything. It seems like her company could have actually had some sort of potential. Then the one on the right opened her mouth... and never shut it.

I could almost see the "why am I partnering with her again?" look on her face.

This is exactly feminism. The dragons tried to explain to them (read: her) that a shitty attitude, a poor business plan (or lack of one altogether), a discriminatory hiring practice, basically everything you can imagine besides sex, were the reasons they dropped out. And what did she do? Closed her eyes, covered her ears, and said "Nope! You hate me cuz I'm a woman and you're dropping out because you hate women!!!!!"

s1500 · 2013-12-14T22:47:28+00:00

Why did she look at the floor after every sentence?

Wiseman79 · 2013-12-15T19:45:07+00:00

'There will be some enviroments men just can't go into' ...how childish

goldmouthdawg · 2013-12-16T02:21:07+00:00

After watching the full vid, that was probably the worst or second worst pitch I've ever seen on shark tank/ dragons den (first pitch I've seen from dragons den). How the hell do you go on that show and not do your research? They had to advise you on your model regarding possible discrimination violations? You should know what you're trying to do before you do it. That "we're women" statement was ridiculous... Man that was bad

p3ngwin · 2013-12-15T12:28:53+00:00

"whether you like it or not men choose to take on [employ] men"

yes, and WHY do you think that is the case in hard labour jobs eh ?

A) because women are most definitely, going to be less physically qualified than a male.

case closed asshole.

p3ngwin · 2013-12-15T12:43:45+00:00

awesome youtube comment:

Rumor has it she's still trying to back out of the studio's parking lot

Title	Feminist construction company pitched on TV show Dragons Den. Gets rejected, extremely cringeworthy
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