Court orders woman to pay man $31,000 for 'sperm theft'

MsHurricane09 · 2013-12-03T14:08:13+00:00

Finally, someone got punished for lying about this. I've heard of so many guys getting stuck in this kind of situation.

Tamen_ · 2013-12-03T10:18:42+00:00

I wonder if the gender of the judge had any influence on the outcome...

Czar-Salesman · 2013-12-03T13:33:49+00:00

While I applaud the judgment, the award isn't close to compensating the man.

The cost of one child for the avg. person is around $160-250,000. The award should at least match what a child would cost. That said, the number of sperm taken combined with the cost of raising a child should have been taken into account.

2013-12-03T16:37:45+00:00

This guy trusted her to be infertile, and while that shows he was horribly gullible it also shows malicious intent by the woman. I personally think that the court order, if it was based on proof, was a good thing. No one deserves to be scammed in such a life altering way. Paternity fraud is a big problem which is not currently being addressed in any meaningful way.

So questions. If a man tells a woman he is infertile, and she ends up pregnant, then what happens? I realize the courts can garnish wages, is that enough? Honest question. I am sort of thinking out loud here.

There is a child, which is a result of a lie. I understand that men are forced to pay child support so built in is a system of and compensation, but this still does not address the lie.

I guess I wonder what would be an acceptable outcome in this case which could be translated into most cases?

Should men and women be able to use he said/she said testimony to get out of or decide responsibility? Could men use it to give up parental rights, and what options do women have (maybe payment of abortion costs, maternity care? Obviously women have the benefit of also having child support and women have choices in becoming mothers that men don't have (although they all come with costs)

How do we keep it from being misused. Just as rape is often a he said/she said, private thing, so is this. Do we err on the side of caution? And which side?

For this case, do we err on the side of innocent until proven guilty (father takes responsibility unless he can prove she scammed him)? What about punishment for criminal intent? What about fathers who want custody?

For a mother who was scammed, is there any way to compensate her for what the guy did other than what we do now for all paternity, which is child support? What about criminal intent? Denial of custody to someone who committed fraud?

How do we prove any of this, and how do we protect the rights of the victimized without hurting the child or unfairly denying the right to be a parent?

I am curious because this is a very complex issue and happens on both sides, although it is less addressed for men. But the results are very different between men and women nd I think the solutions may have to be different due to biology. How do we reach equitable but not the same?

I am truly interesting in people's ideas for a solution on this. It is an interesting case.

Sagemanx · 2013-12-03T19:39:58+00:00

I'm kind of shocked, the judge in this case was actually rational and provided equal justice. An amazing concept, I hope catches on in other parts of the world!

iMADEthis2post · 2013-12-04T00:01:10+00:00

I like this and then I don't. In no way does getting a woman pregnant consent to becoming a parent. 2 people agreeing to becoming parents does. It still has a long way to go. Men should legally be able to denounce parenthood as easily as women can. This and nothing else. End of story. This is equality to me.

lifesbrink · 2013-12-04T01:43:26+00:00

I bet the spermjacker losers at SRS are having a conniption over this.

Electroverted · 2013-12-04T00:13:21+00:00

Everytime I get excited and click on these links, only to find that they happened outside of America, I die a little inside.

2013-12-04T00:37:38+00:00

Good to hear something good come out of Israel lately, since this is the same country that's ordering a woman to circumcise her son.

lookierookie · 2013-12-03T18:26:36+00:00

I was told she was on BC/ couldn't get pregnant. Now I have a kid coming at the end of the month. And it was a one-time thing.

notnotnotfred · 2013-12-03T14:07:31+00:00

paywall, so details are at this point unknown.

jmkiii · 2013-12-03T21:54:03+00:00

They should go after her for copyright infringement.

crankypants15 · 2013-12-04T16:15:55+00:00

Finally, one isolated case of equal responsibility. So the man gets $31,000, how much child support does the woman get? In my case, base CS for 18 years is $324,000.

jay212127 · 2013-12-03T16:23:03+00:00

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misingnoglic · 2013-12-03T22:00:30+00:00

lmao, "sperm theft" is an interesting way of wording things.

2013-12-04T01:20:06+00:00

I dunno how I feel about the fine...anytime you stick your dick in there is a risk of pregnancy no matter what precautions you take.

Title	Court orders woman to pay man $31,000 for 'sperm theft'
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Date	December 3, 2013 9:15 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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