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A woman who stabbed her partner to death with a steak knife has been convicted of his murder for a second time following a retrial

JohnKimble111

March 6, 2021
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/r/MensRights
https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/05/birmingham-emma-jayne-magson-found-guilty-of-murder-in-retrial-14195903/
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Title A woman who stabbed her partner to death with a steak knife has been convicted of his murder for a second time following a retrial
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 1627
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Date March 6, 2021 5:52 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]Vidar34 347 points348 points349 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

"Justice for Women" doesn't understand that this sentence IS justice. You do bad shit, you get punished, regardless what gender you are. "Justice for Women" seems to think that all women are innocent, even when they do horrifying shit. That's not justice.

[–]karmaman12345 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, but you still have the people from #free her or some other group claiming that women should just not be in prison ever

[–]W0NdERSTrUM 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s why the pledge of allegiance says “justice for all”

Anyone who thinks women need justice moreso than men hasn’t been paying attention.

[–][deleted] 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]__pulsar 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

all evidence must be considered

That sounds reasonable at first, but there are many legitimate reasons to disallow evidence.

[–]InvestingBig 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder what is Justice for Women's official stance of laws in Canada and other countries where a rape accuser's sexual history, history of false accusations, phone messages, etc, are denied as evidence in the court.

Do you think they are against the withholding of this evidence to ensure that women get equal justice?

[–]anon517 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was never about justice. It's always been about power.

[–]Fr33kSh0w2012 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Damn right, You know what it is it's a gynocentric group that thinks women should get off scot free, NO WAY, Women should have harsher sentencing then men they are likely to cut all the shit out they do - Considering they are supposed to be the fairer sex considering female prisons are like a 3 star hotel rooms!

[–]Rockbottom503 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's not due to be sentenced until March 29 but at least with this one the judge doesn't have much scope to be lenient! Automatic life in prison for murder

[–]SamaelET 150 points151 points152 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

https://www.justiceforwomen.org.uk/

"Justice for Women was established in 1990 as a feminist campaigning organisation that supports, and advocates on behalf of, women who have fought back against or killed violent men."

Yeah looks a feminist organization about helping women to not be punished after domestic murders ! How surprising.

[–]Alistair_TheAlvarian 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men murdered, women most effected.

[–][deleted] 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]locks_are_paranoid 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

All phones can be used to contact the police, including deactivated cell phones. Unless this woman was physically blocked from leaving the house, she was not justified in killing him.

[–]IANVS 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Too afraid to call the police, brave enough to murder" - female victimhood paradox.

[–]mountainmamabh-3 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

yeah and do you know what the statistics are on domestic violence calls? the police barely do anything (especially depending on the region, down south they do nothing) and then your partner has even more of a reason to beat the shit out of you. my aunt had to stab her fiancé in self defense because he was beating the shit out of her, broke her ribs ripped her hair out, and when she called the police they didn’t do anything the first time and he just got worse. so one day he went to go beat her and she stabbed him. he didn’t die but she got locked up for 2 years even though it was self defense.

you can’t expect people to call the police for domestic violence everytime something happens because a lot of the time calling the police just makes your situation more dangerous for you because the police either won’t or can’t do anything to help you.

i didn’t read the article posted so i’m not talking about that woman specifically, just replying to your idiotic comment about self defense.

[–]goooseontheloose 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Speaking from personal experience, domestic violence calls go nowhere because the victim rarely wants to push charges. For most calls the victim wants the police to separate the aggressor but doesn't actually want their partner arrested or charged.

In the case referenced in the article, not only did the murderer have previous charges of violence, she also had a history violence against her partner.

[–]locks_are_paranoid 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she wasn't being blocked from leaving, then there's no self defense claim.

[–]Fr33kSh0w2012 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Says it all, Fucking sick of these satanic groups.

[–]connzerjeeass 260 points261 points262 points 5 years ago (95 children) | Copy Link

Man: is murdered

Random people: justice for women!!!

[–]CyclopeWarrior 114 points115 points116 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women most affected!

[–]connzerjeeass 51 points52 points53 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality

[+]Bttali0nxx -136 points-135 points-134 points 5 years ago (92 children) | Copy Link

Woman: imprisoned

r/MensRights: woohoo! A person I don't know is in prison for killing somebody I don't know!

Seriously. We should be working on bringing up men, not bringing down women because that's basically what Feminists do.

[–]SamaelET 106 points107 points108 points 5 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link

This is bringing up men. Women who kill their partner are often let easy. This we want these women punished.

[+]Bttali0nxx -78 points-77 points-76 points 5 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link

I've heard the same with the death penalty. You probably want more women to be executed to make it fair. While I think less men should be executed to make it fair.

If MRA is about brining down women, how are you any better than feminists?

[–]SamaelET 60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

If a country see death penalty as acceptable, men should not be the only ones executed.

Do you mean that women should not be punished for killing their partners ?

[–]Fr33kSh0w2012 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think women should be EXECUTED for FALSE RAPE ALLEGATIONS BY THE MAN SHE FALSELY ACCUSED OF RAPING HER then we'll start to see SOME REAL JUSTICE!

[+]Bttali0nxx -62 points-61 points-60 points 5 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

No. This hasn't got anything to do with the woman being imprisoned. It's to do with r/MensRights obsessing over it.

The Men's Rights movement is supposed to be about highlighting men's issues, and delighting over women going to jail has nothing to do with men's issues. It's just resentment towards women

[–]Goldenwolf0101 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Since when did a woman being punished and sent to prison for killing her partner = resentment to women?

Nobody is obsessing over a woman in prison. They are happy that she has faced the course of justice like anyone else would. Moreover, the fact that she got convicted then went for a retrial and got convicted again, which shows that she tried to appeal with a second trial but it didn't work. I don't understand why you're obsessing over the "woman" part. Everybody in this sub mainly cares that she has received appropriate sentencing for her crime. If you ask any person in public, no matter their affiliation, they would agree that this is a good thing.

TL;DR people are happy that she has been sentenced not because she is a woman, but because she has committed a heinous crime.

[–]Bttali0nxx -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

people are happy that she has been sentenced not because she is a woman, but because she has committed a heinous crime.

That is an outright lie. If this sub celebrated people being rightly imprisoned, there would be posts of evil men being imprisoned too.

[–]SquirmyBurrito 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is a sub about men's rights, NOT a sub about people getting sentenced for doing bad shit. Your whataboutism makes zero sense because you're clearly not arguing in good faith.

[–]Bttali0nxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If this a sub about men's rights, why is

A woman who stabbed her partner to death with a steak knife has been convicted of his murder for a second time following a retrial

Getting posted here? It's clearly not a Men Rights issue.

And the guy I replied to tried to say it was posted "not because she is a woman, but because she has committed a heinous crime" which is bullshit

[–]Banditjack 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

sigh

Because it's painfully obvious to the world that men get convicted all the time for violent crimes..women don't.

You need to let go of this delusion that women are incabale of violent crimes and/or shouldn't be punished for them.

Celebrating a woman being charged what a man isn't celebrating the woman being jailed.

It's celebrating that justice is being applied equally...

[–]Bttali0nxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Okay, I don't think women are incapable of violence or shouldn't be punished or any of that rubbish.

I think the MR movement is misplacing its focus by being concerned with a woman's conviction. There are much more important issues facing men than women getting lighter sentences, mostly because women being lightly sentenced does not directly affect men at all.

[–]Goldenwolf0101 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This sub isn't about sending people to prison. The only reason her case was included is because she got the same sentencing a man would've received.

A prominent issue men's rights activists focus on is the treatment of men and women in the criminal justice system. People in this sub are happy that she received equal treatment under the law because it's an example of court focusing on the crime committed rather than the perpetrator's sex.

If you ask anybody in this sub they will also Condemned a man to the same punishment because the crime was serious.

P.S. I'm not hating on you, man. I'm just disagreeing with your stance on the matter.

[–]Fr33kSh0w2012 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's about FUCKING TIME! if this isn't introduced in Australia SOON It'll be on!

[–]Nobleone11 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If this sub celebrated people being rightly imprisoned, there would be posts of evil men being imprisoned too.

I could say the same thing for feminist sites celebrating the incarceration of men.

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Celebrating people being imprisoned is weird

[–]Bad_Routes 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They ARE bringing up mens issues, sadly being imprisoned and given longer sentences because we are men is an issue. Being perceived as violent and guilty makes decisions to send us to jail at a higher rate and for longer sentences because we are men is an issue. We are not taking delight in a woman being jailed, we are delighted about her getting the correct treatment.

Say its a staunch rule that murders will result in 10 years base sentence but frequently when a women is caught for murder they either find her guilty from minor charges instead of the glaring murder or when they find her guilty on that charge they give her a pass and make excuses. That is a mens issue to be determined guilty because people perceive you as more dangerous.

No one would care to much if people did their jobs the way they were meant but we don't live in a perfect world so this stuff has to be brought up. We take delight in fairness and giving the correct sentences to the guilty.

[–]SamaelET 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So feminists being hapoy that Weinstein was jailed were only happy because they hate men ?

[–]Bttali0nxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, because he was a high profile case, not some random, but it certainly wasn't a feminist issue

[–]MostlyPeacefulReddit 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Lmfaoooo oh god people hate you IRL AND on the internet lmaooo

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wtf afe you saying lol

[–]MostlyPeacefulReddit 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which language would you prefer?

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

English, preferably.

Seriously though what does your comment mean, it makes no sense in any context

[–]Bttali0nxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't want less men executed, i want no one to be executed, ban death penalty wordwide.

[–]Bttali0nxx 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you, but some people would rather execute more women to make it equal which is barbaric

[–]luckytron 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Or saying that is just a way to highlight how it is considered less barbaric or more moral to keep a death penalty but only if it affects men only.

And saying that it should apply to women is a way to remind people, "Hey, the death penalty isn't really cool innit? Why is it still around for us men then?"

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

us men

Well, only really murderers. I don't want to be included with them

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You mean female murderers, most people constantly make excuses when women commit crimes.

[–]Bttali0nxx 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

?

[–]luckytron 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, only really murderers.

Oh, its almost as if people can be wrongfully convicted of something and no one should be a victim of this

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I suppose. I was being naive with the "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" attitude

[–]Fr33kSh0w2012 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's the matter Bttali0nxx feeling guilty of something?

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No? Grow the fuck up.

The death penalty does not and will not apply to me because I'm not a murderer

[–]Shuaibvr 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link

Your comment doesn't make sense

[+]Bttali0nxx -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link

It does. This sub is obsessed with stories of women being punished, rather than stories of men doing well. It's literally what Feminists do

[–]Shuaibvr 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link

This woman did bad here,and she deserves something more serious

[–]Bttali0nxx -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link

I get an aura of incel-like bitterness from this sub and resentment towards women. How is a woman being imprisoned good for the Men's Rights movement in any way? It's constant negativity

[–]goawayion 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Because it sets precedent and decreases the sentencing gap between men and women. Either by holding women accountable on the same level as men are or by allowing judges to reduce sentencing for men for similar crimes. The only one negative in this thread is you.

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Okay let me say this: if a woman is sentenced to a shorter sentence than a man would typically get, how does it affect Men and their Rights?

It's literally like the meme: woman sentenced to short imprisonment, men most affected

[–]goawayion 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Because she killed a dude. Brutally. She will be off the streets unable to kill more. How is that not a win?

[–]Bttali0nxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

A win for society, but irrelevant to Men's Rights

[–]rahsoft 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

there it is

a rule 8 special

ffs MODS ban this person

[–]Bttali0nxx 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally just read rule 8, how could I have broken it?

[+]Shuaibvr -14 points-13 points-12 points 5 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is FBI funded.its main purpose is breaking children away from families,so they can start brainwashing them at a younger age.most women in US have enough freedom,but feminism is on the wrong way

[–]rahsoft 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is FBI funded

Put the Tinfoil ..down....

[–]Shuaibvr 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It's unbelievable,but one of the famous feminist admitted she got help from FBI for the movement

[–]rahsoft 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

can you provide a source please because people would be interested

it maybe she got support for something other than her feminism

[–]rahsoft 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

as pointed out bye bufedad its the CIA not the FBI.( FBI is usually internal)

its financed a feminist group not feminism.

i would be curious as to why the CIA funded them, because normally they work overseas and this could have been a way for them to achieve whatever objectives they had overseas( Im guessing left wing/socialist/communist counter intelligence)

regardless of this outcome I still consider feminism to be a corrupted ideology

[–]Bttali0nxx -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, feminism is bad, isn't it?

But, judging from its subreddit, the Men's Rights Movement appears to be about imprisoning women and delighting over stories of women doing poorly. It's not any better than feminism if this is what it's about

[–]Bad_Routes 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

How long have you been on this sub because a couple days ago I saw some improvement posts and support posts

[–]Bttali0nxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I've been here a while but those positive posts are few and far between. This sub shows many incel tendencies

[–]voltran1987 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s about being seen as equals and worthy of justice. A lot of men feel like society treats them as disposable, and a murderer walking free, or people seeing to set them free because of gender reinforces that.

Basically, it feels nice being told you’re worthy of justice.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My god always a concern troll.

[–]ExistentialCrisis515 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Intellectually dishonest as always.

Study conducted by woman shows uexplained gender gap disparity in federal criminal cases.

https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx

[–]LegendaryEmu1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you see celebrations? No, a man died, thats serious.

Women are rarely held accountable for things like this, so justice was actually done, that is good, not a cause for celebration.

She deserves to go to prison, as does any man who just stabs his girlfriend or wife, murder bad. She even got a fucking retrial from the appeals court, good luck getting that as a man with 'diminished capacity' after hiding evidence.

[–]baggedmilkenjoyer 100 points101 points102 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

campaign group ‘justice for women’

what?

[–]Metrack14 34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

After reading the article, what is the objective of this "JuZtIc for Wahman" group? Send her from prison to a psychiatric ward with one of those jackets that doesn't let you move your arms?

The woman have a history of violence, and is not a small one.

[–]rahsoft 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think maybe the best bet is to release this murderer into the care of "justice for women" with the rule that she has to live in the home of the leader of the"justice for women " group for a year and make the leader fully liable for anything this murderer does.

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lets see her chant justice after a few weeks ...

[–]Ok-Improvement7543 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mike dyson

[–]jonny-p 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The implication of diminished responsibility for women is that when men commit murder they’re in sound mind, loving life and know exactly what they’re doing. The reality is most men and women who commit murder have some kind of mental illness or past trauma, sadly no one cares about that when it comes to men.

[–]ManofGod1000 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am guessing that in the first trial, they tried to find out what he did that caused her to do that, am I right?

[–]SonOfHibernia 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He must have been wearing a short skirt, she couldn’t help herself.

[–]Jani3D 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

3rd time's a charm

[–]Glennus626 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Could they have found a more menacing photo of the guy?

[–]SonOfHibernia 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The media do this all the time. And the exact opposite when it comes to women. Especially pedophilic rapist teachers.

[–]fkreddititsuxass 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Omg her face tho now it's quite understandable

[–]bluesydragon 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Justice for women is the same group that freed a woman who separated from her husband, and she DROVE all the way to his house months later and killed him with a hammer.....because "she was emotionally abused by him" seeing other women....fuck em

[–]dukunt 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She has a violent and criminal history. She is also socially inept to a dangerous degree. She committed murder and tried to cover it up.

She's should not be allowed to interact with people in regular society. She has proven herself to be very, very dangerous and been given numerous warnings about her violent behaviour from the court system. Ending in a man's death.

Prison is the best place for her.

[–]rahsoft 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

justice for women shouldnt complain.

women already get lenient sentencing or were they expecting that she get off scot free like sally challen???

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Her min 17 years means nothing because I bet she will be out in 5 years time..

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Equality for women includes equal responsibility for your action

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im sorry but 28 years old you should be long over getting bullied in school what a joke of an excuse. Ironically she was most likely bullied by other girls.

[–]RedditTogetherStrong 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This bitch is insane, she WANTED to murder him, she stabbed him multiple times near his heart and they say she is INNOCENT,

[–]russwriter67 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I thought someone couldn’t be convicted for the same crime twice. Am I missing something?

[–]oofmyguy128 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It’s not America where we have double jeopardy. She was retried cause the lawyers said she was bullied as a kid and had a traumatic childhood. Funny enough looking more into it, texts before from her boyfriend said “I’m not here to be talked shit to and hit” she kicked him in the head recently, and stabbed her ex with a fork before this ever happened.

[–]PacoBedejo 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

bullied as a kid and had a traumatic childhood

Oh, shit! Did this just become the next "I get to do what I want" group? I might actually make the cut on this one!

[–]pyropup55 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We should start a club!!

[–]Fr33kSh0w2012 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah Fucking tell me about it I got raped at 6 in a womens refuge by women who would of thunk it!

I was bullied relentlessly (Literally MAULED in High school) and taken advantage of all the time.

These days I have a parent with SchizoAffective disorder and an Autistic/schizophrenic sibling to contend with (who takes up ALL my free time both of them) when does it ever end for me!

[–]lesbefriendly 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was convicted two times, not twice.

Her lawyers successfully had the original trial nullified, claiming that the jury didn't know they could use the lesser charge of manslaughter due to her 'rough' life.

The second conviction was just the first being done again, but with the jury knowing all their options, they just determined it was murder again. That's not being convicted for the same crime twice.

[–]Metrack14 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It was a retrial, because she seems to have a mental problem. Which, supposedly, was expected to male her sentence from "Murder" to "Manslaughter", what's the difference? No idea, I'm no lawyer.

[–]russwriter67 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Murder usually implies there was an intent to kill the victim while manslaughter is usually killing someone without intent.

[–]rahsoft 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what's the difference?

mens rea

must prove intent as well as the act( the act already proven)

if no intent then manslaugther

example

someone forgets to turn off the frying pan in kitchen of a care home

it catches fire and kills people- that manslaughter because of negligence, but not murder because there was no intent to kill

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here's the thing though if they argue mental illness then she will be effectively sectioned for life, and if they attempt to release her then someone will be legally liable if she commits any crime again...

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mental illness is not necessarily a get out of jail card, because it can become a lifetime sentence of DOLs( deprivation of liberties)

[–]cattypat 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The difference between the maximum conviction duration is massive. Manslaughter is seen as "causing accidental death" in the eyes of the law, equivalent to killing someone by running them over by accident. This is like 20-30 year maximum sentence, which in reality is 10-15 years on good behavior. Murder has no limit since it is seen as personally motivated attack to violently kill someone, it's usually sentenced to life imprisonment, which in reality is 30-40 years on good behavior. Of course the most common way to reduce a murder charge is to get someone labelled medically "insane" in the eyes of the law, meaning they had no control over their actions, meaning their killing was an accident, even though many of these are just lawyers getting them off to a lighter sentence or even avoiding imprisonment in prison instead on a psychiatric ward.

[–]JamesOldie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol ok 'Mike Dyson' is fucking hilarious.

[–]DashCammington 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her lawyers told three senior judges she was suffering from emotionally unstable personality disorder (EUPD), having endured a childhood which was characterised by exposure to domestic violence and after being bullied at school.

Join the club? However, last I checked only 007 has a license to kill. If she's a violent individual that murders someone she needs to be removed from society for OUR safety. "I'm this way because people were mean to me" sucks for her, but if people aren't safe from her then the needs of society outweigh her desire for a pity party. You can try to rehabilitate her, but she's still a murderer and she still needs removed from society until it can be proven she's no longer a threat. My understanding is that she has a background of violent behavior, this wasn't just a good person snapped for an understandable reason, she's a dangerous person.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Justice for women" LOL.

[–]frankie925gm 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's a women get over it they have more rights than us

[–]Shustnovik_Boyo 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what we're trying to point out. (And hopefully change)

[–]DougDante 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Tweet with me to seek justice:

Woman who stabbed partner with steak knife guilty of murder for SECOND time. Avoid the appearance of preferential treatment for women murderers of men. Look @10DowningStreet @UKSupremeCourt @UKParliament @Conservatives #GenderEquity https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/05/birmingham-emma-jayne-magson-found-guilty-of-murder-in-retrial-14195903/

And in reply:

"As the verdict was read out, Magson, wearing a pink top and dark trousers" Do you provide humanizing fashion reports for men who are convicted of murder? Do you ignore the anguish of their victim's families? Avoid the appearance of bias! @MetroUK https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/05/birmingham-emma-jayne-magson-found-guilty-of-murder-in-retrial-14195903/?ito=cbshare

End.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You didn't link to the tweet. Would happily retweet if you did.

[–]DougDante 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not allowed here. My handle is @DougDante1

[–]LegendaryEmu1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So the correct decision was made, diminished capacity my arse, ONE stab, to the heart, steak knife or not, its not so easy to do that. And she deliberately hid the evidence, changed her clothes and the like, yeah, shes guilty as fuck.

Sounds like they were both shitty people, but only one stabbed the other to death. 17 years is pretty light too, for something so unequivocal.

[–]charcoalblueaviator 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When her emotional instability puts those around her at immediate risk.THEY MUST CONFINE HER.

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[–]SamaelET 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Wanting accountability for women who kill their partner is nit "bringing down women".

[+]Alistair_TheAlvarian -13 points-12 points-11 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

It's about bringing women down.

Edit: God fucking dammit, I meant murderers, not women, it's about bringing down sick fucks and murderers who think they can have special treatment because women are oppressed.

I made a typo, I was thinking it's not about bringing women down, it's about bringing murderers down, but then I mushed them together in my head and write that garbage.

[–]jameson71 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No its about equal treatment under the law

[–]Alistair_TheAlvarian -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is, I whole heartedly agree. Also people who take it personally when a murderer is convicted probably should get a therapist.

I made a typo, I was thinking it's not about bringing women down, it's about bringing murderers down, but then I mushed them together in my head and write that garbage.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao you really think that a woman getting what she deserves after murdering someone is about bringing women down? Jfc people are so delusional.

Edit: honest mistake my guy, I thought you were one of those dummy people.

[–]Alistair_TheAlvarian 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I messed up writing it, people who take it personally when a murderer is prosecuted definitely have some issues. I made an edit you can read.

[–]rahsoft 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i do think we should focus more on men's issues

how is this not a mens issue?

justice for men who are murdered by their female partners. This is domestic violence in the extreme.

lenient sentencing for women for the same crime committed by men

is that not a mens issue?

[–]Tmomp -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She deserved due process.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She got due process... twice

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[–]HenryCGk 34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

26-year-old man James Knight is needlessly dead /r/mensrights wants justice for him

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s almost as if most of men’s problems stem from women nowadays...

[–][deleted] 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]john35093509 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What men say that domestic violence is not an example of oppression?

[–]cattypat 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The oppressed talking about their oppressors, I'm sure that'll help you understand.

[–]furay10 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny how little women care for mens rights or even equality.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it’s interesting to me how r/mensrights spends so much time talking about women and feminism

Because feminism spends so much time demonising men and trying to secure special treatment for women.

This story literally involves a feminist group trying to get a violent murderer's conviction squashed.

It's interesting how r/TwoXChromosomes and r/feminism spends so much time ragging on men.

[–]Bad_Routes 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmmmm why is that interesting

[–]DistributionLow4463 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I thought that in the U.S. that if you were tried for murder and not convicted that you could not be tried again ( double jeopardy )

[–]Secretspoon 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can if New evidence is brought to the court. Like say, a complete confession.

[–]DistributionLow4463 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

why would anyone who went to trial was not convicted confess

[–]Secretspoon 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People are dumb.

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