To the people that claim mra's are just as bad as feminists:

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-05-23T20:24:30+00:00

For a movement purportedly fighting for equality, they really do hate anyone and anything trying to help men with their legitimate issues and complaints. During those protests, they were acting like retards.

63daddy · 2023-05-23T15:13:06+00:00

Feminism has lobbied for and won many laws that advantage women and discriminate against men. The MRA in contrast is focused on achieving equality and has not been lobbying for men to be legally advantaged. That’s the big difference between the two movements in my opinion.

Greg_W_Allan · 2023-05-24T03:43:25+00:00

Find me an instance where mra's protested against gender neutral laws...

https://www.jpost.com/israel/womens-groups-cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms

CobraLahey · 2023-05-24T05:18:10+00:00

Ive encountered way more toxic feminists than I have with toxic MRAS.

sgt_oddball_17 · 2023-05-23T14:04:21+00:00

Those examples do not exist.

Feminism - come for the equality, stay for the special privileges.

ALiteralAngryMoose · 2023-05-23T16:25:34+00:00

Quite. There absolutely are some men who genuinely hate women, etc etc et al. Those men are fucking bonkers. The immense majority of MRAs, wish to have our problems taken seriously.

crippledhermit · 2023-05-24T00:09:59+00:00

Feminism: masculinity's enemy

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2023-05-24T07:42:22+00:00

I think we need to take a step back here: individuals can be just as bad.

But the entire movement isn't

Za__guy · 2023-05-24T06:39:46+00:00

I did say that

But to be more accurate I was saying they will become like feminist where they start good. Achieve equallity, keep marching for more rights for the next 40-100 years

tomowudi · 2023-05-23T18:59:21+00:00

I think there is a bit missing from your analysis.

Feminism is a bigger movement than MRA's. As a result, if 20% of ANY and EVERY group are shitty extremists, there will be more shitty extremists under feminism than MRA's. That doesn't make MRA membership "better" - it just means that smaller groups have smaller numbers of shitty extremists.

There is also the nature of bad actors - MRA extremists are also closely associated with white nationalism and right wing extremism. These groups will engage in "leaderless resistance" or "lone wolf terrorism" more frequently. https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/248691.pdf

So you are more likely to see these acts not necessarily directly affiliated with a coordinated attack so much as initiated by an individual who is affiliated with those groups.

Withnail-is-life · 2023-05-23T14:40:03+00:00

I mean people claiming to be for "mens rights" have murdered people.

Edit: so a few horrible feminists represent the movement, but a few mens rights activists who are evil don't? I see.

AndyesIdumb · 2023-05-24T10:02:22+00:00

A MRA killed two men to get back at a feminist judge . He also made a lawsuit attacking the" Violence Against Women’s Act".

A group that seems to be affiliated with Men's Rights Activism hosted ""discrimination" lawsuits against organizations that have hosted networking events marketed to women, and lawsuits against universities for offering scholarships and affirmative action programs to women. "

tw Hannah Clark was mentally, physically and sexually abused by her husband. When she tried get away from him, he burned her and their children to death. A Men's Rights Activist decided to paint her as abusive without evidence. Abuse against men is important, but he shouldn't have slandered a murder women by calling her the "perpetrator" of this abuse. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10404951/Hannah-Clarke-Mens-rights-activist-claims-mother-extorted-partner-burned.html

I don't doubt that some feminists, especially radical feminists and terfs, who are attacking men. In factlike some violent men's rights activists, these feminists have ties to the alt right. But I also don't doubt that some men's rights activists are attacking women.

There are intersectional feminists who are fighting for men's liberation. https://medium.com/@jencoates/i-am-a-transwoman-i-am-in-the-closet-i-am-not-coming-out-4c2dd1907e42

There are men's liberationists who are fighting for women's liberation.

Horrible activists aren't a reason to give up on civil rights. Maybe we need to form different groups, give ourselves different names and ideas. But the point remains, men deserve rights and women deserve rights. And right now, we don't have them.

Title	To the people that claim mra's are just as bad as feminists:
Author	mrauser347
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Date	May 23, 2023 1:19 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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