Women are more shallow than men: Men will date women they find neutral in looks; women won't date men they find neutral in looks (unless he has status & money)

Anxious_Adult123 · 2023-06-15T16:05:11+00:00

Devil is always in the details!

they see women as people and consider everything into account

Absolutely true. Provided they are looking for something serious and long term. However, if they are not serious and just want to sleep around under pretext of dating- then don't.

NakedStreets · 2023-06-15T15:07:17+00:00

How do you explain men who have sex with women, but refuse to date or commit to them?

zyex12 · 2023-06-15T15:46:33+00:00

Sorry to spoil this for you man but there’s people on both sides who date off looks and there’s people in both sides who date based off personality stop trying to make this a oh women do this more thing when u just generalized like half the population.

Mobrowncheeks · 2023-06-15T15:12:41+00:00

I think dudes pretending that men are less shallow then women even though we literally get social status by being with beautiful women is where I draw the line between old red pill and new red pill.

Ainsleygz · 2023-06-15T15:20:58+00:00

I wish men would pluck their eyebrows

wtknight · 2023-06-15T15:29:45+00:00

Most men will try to cheat on those neutral looking women if they have the opportunity to, though.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-06-15T18:41:11+00:00

Yes, men will date women who aren't their type... If they prefer gorgeous blondes they might compromise on a gorgeous brunette. Probably try and get her to dye her hair too. But seriously, what extra special totally non-superficial things are men taking into account that women don't?

JNRoberts42 · 2023-06-15T15:37:26+00:00

Which man? Because a wealthy and attractive man will seek and obtain companionship with an attractive woman.

Is the hypothetical man in the OP attractive? Wealthy? Have status? Or the opposite?

Few-Laugh-6508 · 2023-06-15T16:08:30+00:00

This is getting old tbh.

MistyMaisel · 2023-06-15T16:17:03+00:00

Alright, purge week has been fun, but this is just outrageous.

A man will still fuck a woman he feels neutrally and even that she's ugly about. This doesn't mean he's a saint or that he's holistically attracted to a woman. And yes, this means he'll go on a date with her a number of times if that's the requirement to getting that sex. But no, most men are not dating women seriously that they are not attracted to.

And I'm so tired of us pretending wealth says nothing about people or status says nothing about people, it's just some shallow metric. That appearance and attractiveness just fall out of the sky. And that women wanting these things from a man is inherently shallow when we're the ones who have to make ourselves vulnerable by having babies and raising them.

Yeah, you're all such fucking saints for not caring about someone's ability to be a stable partner in good standing with the community. Must be so easy to hold that position knowing there's no need for someone to care for you when you're pregnant and child-rearing. Y'all have the absolute luxury of just seeking someone who is pleasantish to be around. And then this thing about good-looking men. I don't want a neutral looking man dick in me. An ugly man dick is unimaginable.

And finally, let's just say it, the reason a man would take a neutral partner is because he's planning to have one period no further questions. Just please don't be a nightmare, dear. Women aren't. We need a good reason to take on a man. And him being neutral and pleasant doesn't do it. I don't have romantic relationships with my female friends and they're largely neutral to look at and have personalities I get on with great. Why the fuck would any woman take on sex, pregnancy, children, and a romantic relationship for a dude because he's; pleasant and interesting. That's the description of a friend. Not a lover. You want to apply for the position of a lover, us having chemistry is a requirement, so is being attractive, having the status we think appropriate, and the financial future we think appropriate. If you don't wanna do that, let's be friends because I'm not assuming I have to have a man around.

Gr4nd45 · 2023-06-15T15:38:24+00:00

Generalizations, generalizations...

[men] see women as people and consider everything into account

Let's be honest. As a man, I can tell you, that I would refuse to date an obese woman, regardless of how great a person she was.

[women's] primary focus is the superficial - looks, status, money.

Stop listening to RP, go out and socialize with women. You'll notice there's a lot more to attraction, than those things you mentioned. Heard of charisma? It's like magic. Honestly fascinating stuff, human relationships and all their intricacies.

And well... personally, I feel like guilting or shaming people for having standards ultimately makes you look both entitled, and like a beggar - trying to convince women to date you out of pity or "morality" is just pathetic.

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WilliamWyattD · 2023-06-18T08:31:44+00:00

It depends what you mean by shallow. Neither gender's criteria for sufficient raw sexual attraction is particularly 'deep'. But men weight looks almost entirely. Women have a more holistic weighting of various criteria.

So both genders are shallow in this respect, though women are less so. However, men have lower and possibly more fair' standards.

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