Do things become easier when you are a high-value man?

AlmostKindaGreat · 2024-01-25T01:41:46+00:00

I did a major glow up. I lost weight, got fit, got my hair and grooming dialed in, increased my charisma, learned how to flirt and be sexual in a way women respond to, started dressing well, got cool hobbies, and increased my social status. I realistically went from around top 40% to the top 10%.

Everything is easier. All women treat me completely differently, whether it's an explicitly romantic interaction or not.

Listing the positives would take forever. The only negative is that sometimes women ask me if I'm a catfish on dating apps.

I can expand if you want, but yeah, the answer is yes.

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2024-01-25T01:10:41+00:00

I mean look at any male celebrity. I'd say the vast majority of them have some story about how suddenly when they gained fame women started finding them attractive and wanting to spend time with them.

I think thats the evidence right there

SeveralLiterature980 · 2024-01-25T00:53:19+00:00

I mean, I've always had a fairly easy time with women. However...

I can tell you right now there are huge misconceptions.

First, in normal life (unless you skyrocket to hundreds millions $$) your looks, race, and height are all. And really, unless you're capable at least of being in the top 5% facially, you shouldn't even care much about facial appearance as a guy (because that's when the returns to facial attractiveness start happening). Race and height dominate everything.

Second, if you are the correct race and height + decent face = options forever.

Third, you will also always have options despite fucking up the first two if your face gets into that top 5% range.

Fourth, the level at which a man has to be to get women just throwing themselves at him (like you hear about) = celebrity status + very GL.

Usually a lot of the anecdotes you rack up over the years of this stuff tend to be isolated incidents. Now, in a social circle where you're GL, then you'll see a lot of crazy shit happen with women with boyfriends indirectly hinting at this or that etc.

You'll also find it easier to warm approach strangers.

Beyond that ^ you still will put up with all the same bullshit everyone else does. The girls who do it will just be hotter.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2024-01-25T07:04:02+00:00

Define HVM (which you sort of did) and define "easier."

So if you mean >6' tall, six figure income, and not a troll, then I meet the mark. Not quite sure about the troll bit, but otherwise, yes, by a wide margin.

What People Think This Means

Once you hit 6 figure income and 7 figures in assets, that your life will become parties on yachts, banging Brazilian or Russian supermodels, driving a super car, etc. You will suddenly know the right people/have the right friends/whatever.

For those that think this, I can assure you, it's not like you cross 6' and 6 figures and become a millionaire and then two lingerie models appear, lock up your arms in theirs and say "Congrats, big fella, we're gonna takes you to where the rainbow ends," and then you wind up at sex parties with impossibly beautiful women who gaze longingly at your rippling muscles, and beg you to impregnate them, which sounds like a good idea after you do a couple of fat rails but then you unroll the $100 and Ben Franklin looks at you with a tight-lipped expression of paternal disappointment.

What It Actually Means

Assuming your work doesn't suck the life out of you nor take up too much of your time you have a lot of optionality. I have zero interest in most yacht parties, but if I want to go to Europe for a week, I do it, usually a few times a year. If I want to eat in a Michelin-starred restaurant, I do it. That said, you will be a lot better off being happy with what you have, rather than chasing "things". Better to be happy with what you have, and spending time with people who are meaningful to you. That is much better than spending it at a trendy spot with people you don't know. Have experiences, not possessions. If the worst happens, they can't take the former away from you.

Short guys will claim I have a way easier time because I am 6'2". That just means that I tick one box out of 100. There are plenty of other off-ramps. So instead of running the 110M hurdles, I'm running the 100M hurdles. Because women select for height, it makes it easier because I meet the height requirement. Tall women will forgive a lot of sins for this. OTOH, it's not like I'm 6'5 either. I guess guys all wish we were about 3 inches taller than we are, up to a certain point, anyway.

It's Really In-Between

What do I mean by this? So if you think money buys happiness, it does not. But it does buy peace of mind. If that makes you happy, then I guess money does buy happiness. I'm never going to put a "B" in front of my -illions and I'm perfectly fine with that.

Does a combination of height/money/game make things easier? Yep. But it will not make them "easy", necessarily. From a work perspective, my shit is wired tight - I close deals. I am good at it - sorry, not sorry, it's true - but as I have had to explain to co-workers from time to time, what I do is not "easy" I just make it look easy.

When it comes to women, I could not do what I do without being able to run tight, on-point game, and even then there is only a small % of women willing to date with a significant age gap, and a smaller % of hot ones. Yet I am able to find them and bed them, and often enough enjoy relationships with them. Tight game allows me to do that. Without it, I'd be living the middle-aged hell of dating age-appropriate women. Again, sorry, not sorry.

So if you're a guy, you have two best friends: Game and the gym.

wtknight · 2024-01-25T00:36:09+00:00

I don't really know anyone who has gone from low value to high value. Are there many people like this? Most of the people who I know of, including myself, have stayed at a fairly steady value. So I'm not really sure how many people can answer this question.

boom-wham-slam · 2024-01-26T05:45:59+00:00

I mean i have two girlfriends and two fwb and zero drama... yeah it gets better.

BootyMessiah · 2024-01-25T07:02:38+00:00

No, if you were a loser before you became high value and you don’t change your mindset, you’re just a high value loser

So many men who struggle with women will hit the gym, improve their looks and focus on their career only to still struggle with women (or become unprepared to deal with surface level women) because they still lack experience and aren’t focusing on improving their mindset/worldview.

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SecondEldenLord · 2024-01-25T01:19:35+00:00

100% they do. I met so many men that went from bottom to the top and their options increased tenfold. It's incredible what some money, good clothes, a car and status can bring you. If you are physically unattractive, basically becoming gihsgh status with money is your only option to get women.

Leaving-trunk2 · 2024-01-26T17:14:57+00:00

Im not some rich movie star but I think I’ve gotten laid just because I’m a strong 8/10 with an impressive sounding job. This is in SPITE of having a dorky, midwestern gentleman personality.

Title	Do things become easier when you are a high-value man?
Author	UVIV
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Date	January 24, 2024 9:25 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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