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[–]eszibit 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's funny how so many people have it backwards. Hell yes or no is actually from your point of view and i find it to be really true. It's to honestly measure your interest and if it's not at peak then you should not pursue the woman, you'll both just waste time and it's all about making your life as optimal as possible and only doing hell yes activities and hell yes people, meaning the ones you really want to spend time together.
It's meant to make your life easier.
[–]helpMeOut9999 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
I fully disagree - it's the girls that I ho hummed about at the beginning to turn into the most fulfilling relationships I've ever had.
The hell yes's ruined me. You cannot trust fully what you are immensely attracted to. It is a very poor gauge.
True love is built and it's hard to build something stable without a partner that is grounded. But grounded individuals are a slow burn. That saying is so fucking stupid.... like all cliche seductive sayings/slogans are.
[–]eszibit 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Again, you misunderstand. It's not a " omg, she is so fine, hell yes i want to fuck her " it's a more abstract thing like getting to know someone and if you're not 100% you want to have something with that person you'd best move on. So hell yes i want to fuck her because i'm so attracted to her instead of " yeah, ill fuck her, one more notch on my belt " and the same is with relationships too.
[–]helpMeOut9999 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh i understand it very well and in most cases that HELL YES is just you with a fantasy I your mind about what that person is. It distorts and misleads you as you overlook all the red flags.
The reality is a hell yes should ve an emergent property. The right person will blindside you. I assume you are in your 20s
[–]eszibit 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm 34 and had my fair share of women, sadly i didn't listen to my gut and lot of maybe's just wasted my time, sure, i was attracted physically to them but they had no substance, but i kept saying to myself to not judge too much and really get to know them, big mistake. Only met a handful of hell yes women, quality is rare these days, but when you see it that's when hell yes applies. Anyway, i won't change your mind and you seem condescending so i'm done with this conversation, have a good day.
[–]helpMeOut9999 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have a good day 👍
[–]sidbunch6 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think the 'if it's not a hell yes then move on' thing is more to do with a cold approach. Like, any of us who have been at this for a while and also watched lots of premium infields etc know that nobody can 'turn' a girl from 'no' to 'yes'. Like if you open her and she's basically ignoring you, making it clear you're not her type or maybe even telling you she's not interested etc, then no amount of 'game' in the world will help. It's a number game and a game that is played on the attracted girls
However, i think if it's someone who's agreed to go on a date with you (already had 1 date), then she was clearly attracted enough and maybe it's more of a 'game' issue. And thus maybe it's worth playing the game with her a little more to see if it's salvageable
[–]LatterRow 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok thx for the reply
[–]revente 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Like, any of us who have been at this for a while and also watched lots of premium infields etc know that nobody can 'turn' a girl from 'no' to 'yes'.
Many girls do change from no to yes tho. But there are no 'tricks' that can force this change.
Maybe she was anxious and needed 1 more drink. Maybe she needed some more time to observe that you're not a weirdo. etc.
[–]helpMeOut9999 38 points39 points40 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
That hell yes/hell no crap is such bullshit.
A girl will ALWAYS be like "hell I doubt it" at the beginning. Unless you are some Brad Pitt look alike with the charm of Thor - which we all are not.
A man should only do 20% of the chasing. You make the offer, you create the opportunity for sex to happen and that's it.
You don't over text, you don't ask twice, you don't put up with maybe and ho hums.
If a girl says "maybe" you say "no problem, why don't you figure out your schedule and get in touch with me when you want to get together - would be great to see you again."
And 👏 THAT 👏 IS 👏 IT.
[–]spacemangoes 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
This guy read the book 10-15 times
[–]WickedBiscuit 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
C’mon man
[–]helpMeOut9999 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No drama zone!
[–]PieSakuraTea 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What book 👀
[–]THE_PENILE_TITAN 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Pook?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Buk?
[–]spacemangoes 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How to be a 3 man
[–]PieSakuraTea 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you 😼
[–]AdriaN_46 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What book is that?
[–]LatterRow 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah thats pretty much what I did
[–]Lit-Up 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe is a no. You wasted your breath even replying. Like a girl is going to randomly contact you when she wants to get together. She will already have another option at that point.
Ya a maybe means you are choice number 7
[–]literallyou 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree
[–]koseabjitt 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The thing about the times we face "no/hell no girls" is when we get rejected , we can never convince ourselves that no amount of game or physical/financial improvement could turn it into a yes situation & it's impossible for us to accept rejection . e.g the girl on the street doesn't stop to talk to you & you always feel it has something to do with you . "maybe if i was taller or more handsome..." "maybe if i was wearing designer clothes..."
& when we turn a "no girl" into a yes ( getting laid with a girl who showed no interest at first ) we NEVER know it was our sharp game & skills that made the girl fuck or we could do it anyway by just pushing and asking .
how can i know the girl who refused to meet me on sunday but came to my home & swallowed my cum 2 days later did it because of the amount of game i applied or it was just she felt like fucking a guy that day? i never know.
[–]cobraCL 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Move on if her uncertainty becomes a pattern. Sometimes people are genuinely busy or have personal things to deal with, so be lenient but cut her off if her tone in the next few interactions is wishy-washy.
[–]Environmental_Cress2 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
no this isn’t always true. and it’s stupid to think the girl should be “hell yes” when she just met you.
it’s more likely that the hoes are “hell yes”. And the loyal girls just take time to warm up.
It’s kinda dangerous if she’s “hell yes” at first cause she’ll probably be easily seduced by other men
[–]LatterRow 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes sense
[–]Contango6969 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The goal is to have enough abundance that you aren’t worried about her fickleness. Like you should try to not be in a position where you are speculating and trying to understand what’s impossible to know
[–]LatterRow 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Abundance puts stress and indecisiveness on me. When I tried dating multiple girls at a time and had other girls lines up during a date, I had trouble with escalation because I had fear of missing out about the other girls if I entered a relationship with one. Like I it was a “choose wisely” situation
[–]Contango6969 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That doesn’t make any sense to me lol
[–]BlancheCorbeau 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope. My best relationship ever started out as a mutual hard maybe that built into a hell yes over a lot of time.
[–]Visualize_ 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well "hell maybes" are going to matter more if you have a low volume of leads. In a perfect world where you have like an abundance of women in your life, you really only need to pay attention to the hell yes girls. In a practical standpoint or I guess based on your situation, you obviously shouldn't just jump the gun and move on right away just because of a maybe. You leave it as an option but keep searching for the women who will give you the time of day
[–]Environmental_Lie561 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes 💯
[–]incognito3107 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It may be not an absolute rule, but girls are frequently making some cheap and safe excuses that many guys would not ever consider as polite "no". That being said, to avoid emotional struggle and waste of time, it is better to assume that she is not convinced to get into relation with you. You can still back out and maybe a situation will change some day, but pushing her will definitely turn her off more.
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