[FR] worst fucking date ever

Waitwhatwtf · 2012-08-11T07:04:02+00:00

The first part you could have salvaged. Despite popular thought here, letting others take the lead of the conversation for a while is okay. It's how you get to know people, by discussing things that interest them. On that topic, you could have stayed IN the conversation by asking questions. Have the confidence to inquire and realize when you need to know more.

The ending, you blew it entirely. You basically said "I really only came out so we could fuck, but we didn't and I feel the night was a waste." now that seed is planted in the back of her mind. Can you fix it? Maybe. But it'd be a long road with hard mode engaged. Is it worth it? Your call, but probably not.

Overall, you should've been having fun with the both of them, not just going out for the punani. Better luck next time.

DeezWalnuts · 2012-08-11T06:47:51+00:00

You had an off night, it happens. But then you texted her out of desperation.... with no teasing, or attempt to regain some control. I cringed when I read: "I wish we could have hooked up."

This was a second date, not a FWB situation. If in doubt about a text, just wait until you can come up with something more clever.

Here you go

Live and Learn.

2012-08-11T07:45:37+00:00

He's not a threat really as he's not into her and they're like best friends

I bet she's into him more than she is into you, then

I texted her saying I wish we could've hooked up and that we should have more alone time next time

Fail

Also, do you not have a car? I would have bailed pretty quick on that scene

KitsBeach · 2012-08-11T08:13:06+00:00

You should have suggested the two of you split from the coffee shop as soon as you felt Jeff take control. You needed to be in control and you weren't, the situation was obviously taking a friendly rather than sexual turn which is where you don't want a date to go, especially since it was just the second.

I'll tell you as a female myself that some girls can't handle the pressure of a date and a mutual friend diffusing the tension like Jeff did can be a relief. Honestly some girls can't handle being "on" like we often feel we need to be, especially during the critical first dates.

EDIT: Removed an unnecessary "first"

YellowBlackbird- · 2012-08-11T09:52:43+00:00

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nycprowl · 2012-08-11T05:50:17+00:00

is he your friend as in good buds with him? Ask him. For women (and men alike) intimacy is all about building a moment. Unfortunately you got a bit AMOGed (not in an attempt to bring you down) and that moment was not built...

You can salvage this, just next time you hang out escalate hard.

DarthBrooks · 2012-08-11T07:45:32+00:00

God damn you're hung up, dude.

Stop, don't let any girl bother you this much... Off nights happen, you were so hung up on what should be/could be happening that everything else you did was a total train wreck. JUST BE IN THE MOMENT. BE THERE WITH HER.

We can give you a play by play of all the things you did wrong... But those wrongs aren't nearly as important as this fact: You aren't independent of the outcome.

Gfresh404 · 2012-08-11T09:01:57+00:00

I texted her saying I wish we could've hooked up

BAD - I think you can figure out why

redditor29198 · 2012-08-11T16:17:24+00:00

If this is your worst date ever, you're in for such a treat! Nothing was wrong with this date except you: your reactions and especially your expectations.

Just wait until a girl accidentally runs you over with her car, or a girl tries to stab you with a knife, or you walk out of the bathroom after a date to a girl unwakeably passed out on your floor after shitting her pants, or a stupid bitch eats your leftover calzone (this is still the worst one.)

Those are bad dates. The one you talked about is completely mundane and will happen all the time.

fragglemook · 2012-08-11T07:14:34+00:00

You got AMOG'd. She wanted to fuck your friend. That's the truth. He was more entertaining than you.

We set up to meet tonight and she comes and picks me up.

What the hell does this all mean? "We set up"? "WE?" NO! It's up to YOU to control the venues and the location of the meeting (don't call it a frickin date - you 'guys' are hanging out). "she comes and picks me up."?? what, like a little lost puppy who peed on the carpet?

Before I continue, allow me to preface that very openly bisexuals are usually F.U.L.L O.F. S.H.I.T and are the most narcissistic cunts you will ever meet. Quite often, and I've known a few, you never see them kissing dudes, they just use the schtick to lure women. BUT that's his game, and for most of his adult life he has learned how to make it work for him to fuck women attracted by androgyny and mystery. So, good for him.

Okay, you should have had a few different venues prearranged as backups in case one place was shit. Two, why did you take the girl to somewhere where there was a high probability you were going to run into friends of yours? Come to think of it, now that I see the girl met you through this guy, she probably had sent him a text about where you two were meeting up in advance.

This is also probably why your AMOG friend was still around when you all went back to Sarah's house, as an escape refuge from you.

Let me ask you something: Was Sarah on the couch with your friend, facing him, laughing at his jokes, her feet ON the couch, body language pretty much closed off from you, arms around her legs or whatever? Did you simply stick around way too long until it got late and she had long since forgotten about any attraction she may have had for you?

So we hang, the four of us, as a group and jeff is leading all the conversation.

Right, well, next time casanova, take the fucking lead with her and tell her quietly and in a personal manner that you want to take her to a different venue. Be polite with your bi-friend and tell them you guys are heading in ten minutes but you'll all catch up in a couple of hours (a false promise!). Of course, you shouldn't really need to do this if you set things up properly next time.

He's not a threat really as he's not into her....

Right. Sure. I absolutely HATE pussy personally, I just fuck women for the insight of their post-coital chatter.

Here's what probably happened with Jeff. Knowing "he is bi-sexual" and suspecting he uses this reputation to intrigue women and enable him to hit on women under the radar ( I once pretended I was gay at a gig, with my gay friend and convinced a chick to show me her tits and let me suck them!?!) then we should also assume that he will continue to maneuver indirectly as in that he will introduce her to you as a potential hook-up so that he can display his attractive 'flamboyance' without looking like he wants anything from her.

Frankly, given that this was a second date, I would have had my arm round the girl as soon as we sat down in this wretched cafe where you met Jeff. Straight away! Touching her upper arm in a comforting manner while I ask her what she wants to drink, telling her sit there, hun, I'll get these.

You said she picked you up. From your house? Well you fucked up right there then didn't you? You should have grabbed her by the hair and stuck you tongue down her throat.

Your mistake has a lot to do with you pretending you don't want to fuck her. What do you think she wanted?

Out of state? That is a load of shit. It's all bullshit. Forget that crap. When you have game DOWN. When you know you should be kinoing straight away, not giving a fuck, having fun saying what YOU want to say WHEN you want to say it even if it is the middle of someone elses sentence INCLUDING hers, you're gonna get laid.

A practical tip could be not to take her on a coffee date until you have fucked her. Coffee for a second date was a shit idea. Cafes are where you pick up. You had already picked her up, now you had to entertain her.

But you turned her off.

Don't worry about it though, remember it in ALL its detailed glory, get out there immediately and pick up someone else. Now compare the two events and note the improvements in your technique. Also do a lot more talking throughout your days, your probably have a problem with that given that you couldn't interrupt your AMOG pal with anything because you hadn't been doing it all day and week. Essentially you need to be socialised. Get a public facing job like working in a bar.

HOLY FUCK I didn't realise I typed so much.

edit: hey I didn't realise you were only 16! Okay so don't worry about most of what I said, you don't have to get this shit right for years, really. However, I fully recommend socialising yourself by taking a job in a busy cafe or a restaurant as a waiter.

mkz212 · 2012-08-11T08:24:20+00:00

first date, never bring someone else with you and if you run into someone who is a friend, explain that its a date and you need to be alone. even if you were going to be the alpha, you dont need other people tagging along for your date, some social proof wouldve been cool but that's it

choc_is_back · 2012-08-11T11:10:46+00:00

lol, woke up, checked reddit on my phone and was confused because my thought was exactly that, about my own date.

For different reasons though: okc date, turned out from the very start I couldn't stand her, wanted to punch her in the face most of the time; but for some stupid reason I stuck it out, like some kind of personal challenge to myself or something, how zen. Kissed her instead of punching her in the face, invited her home, and had the worst sex ever. Meh :-(

I gotta learn to man up with things like this, and kindly tell people with a pretty face but thoroughly incompatible outlook on life that it's not gonna work out sooner.

takemylife · 2012-08-11T12:03:31+00:00

The text was a disaster. Don't be surprised if you cannot recover after this - I wouldn't know how to either.

locotx · 2012-08-11T16:59:11+00:00

Dood, I'll say it . . grow the fuck up . . until you get to the level of "Always be the hunted, never be the hunter" . .your expectations are always gonna disappoint you. Until you get to the level where woman wants to fuck you more than you want to fuck her . .then you aren't at the player level you are expecting to be, that takes years son. Just fucking go out and have fun, relax and enjoy . . . the BEST sex sometimes occurs on those times you don't expect to have sex ! Trust me on that one

NorseGod · 2012-08-11T17:04:47+00:00

I texted her saying I wish we could've hooked up and that we should have more alone time next time.

Woops. You coulda pulled it out of the fire up until this point; you're basically toast. Move on.

Jewbot69 · 2012-08-11T06:31:59+00:00

Its pretty much your fault dude, you played it very beta that night.

When you noticed your friend was being more aggressive than you, you should have taken the initiative to take your date away from the "friendly" threat and isolate her elsewhere. Excuse yourself and take her to see a movie or something. Also when things aren't going your way the worst thing you can do is mope, take charge and if you can't learn from your mistakes and move on... Sarah is a GIRL.. she's not the only one that might fuck you and she's deffinately not the hottest.. if you feel it went that badly just cut off connection from her and move on, she will eventually come back and you will have had time to better yourself

officer_wobbles · 2012-08-11T08:35:16+00:00

I never meet women with any friends of their. Or mine. Doesn't matter. I rarely get an offer like that and I always refuse. It's like - "Hey, I just thought friend of mine can join us or blah blah blah" - "I think it's not a good idea, you can see me, and after that you can meet whoever you want", something like that.

Instead of thinking how to turn crappy situation into your benefit, it's better not to create such situations. When I date a girl, I am interested in her, she is interested in me. So why the fuck do we need anyone else around? Doesn't make any sense to me.

MetalMeltdown · 2012-08-11T09:52:08+00:00

Also, never let it get to you. You are probably a lot cooler than you think, and deserve better than what you get. Eventually you will get the woman you deserve, and it will be so much sweeter since you will have had to filter through all the women who would have just treated you like dirt. And cmon man, you deserve great things!

locotx · 2012-08-11T14:00:54+00:00

A friend of mine once claimed to have had the worst date ever. The girl he told had a much worse one.

She drove to the guy's apartment and from there he drove to dinner. They went to one of the more expensive restaurants in Panama City, FL. The conversation at dinner was boring, causing many awkward silences. There didn't seem to be anything they had in common. And to make matters worse, when it was time to pay for dinner, the guy had "forgotten his wallet."

After paying for her own dinner, they promptly returned to her apartment and she attempted to leave. However, her car wouldn't start, so she was forced to stay at his place until she could get help with her car troubles in the morning. Since the date didn't exactly go well, she decided it would be best if she just crashed on the couch.

Everything was okay. Everything was okay until the following day when she woke up to the man she went on a date with the night before. As she described it, the man was "jerking off on her back."

The most fun part of the story, you ask? This isn't the first time thats happened to her...

She must have been really hot.

fartuckyfartbandit · 2012-08-11T08:17:37+00:00

You were a results, in this case, sex driven bitch, that cried because your dick wasn't sucked because you were a terrible date.

I'm guessing because she was introduced by a friend, you have the respect for your friend to not just hit it and quit it as it would then look bad upon him, so in that case you were open to the possibility of making this more and that's likely what she was testing you for as well; if you could be more, and if you could be a part of her social circle. You just proved, that you were a lousy partner around HER friends, and showed her all you cared about was hooking up and she likely wants nothing to do with you or you severely hurt your chances.

Then again, I don't understand how you are friends with this Jeff guy, when you've described such a terrible report between the two of you. If he's winged with you, conversation should be much easier. So somethings not right there or somethings missing.

Girls, have friends, some of them boys, some of them likely are into her, you have to be able to deal with that like a champ. You don't always have to be alpha, in such situations, you'd look pushy and a bit bossy (and she's going to have your friends review you afterwards, you can bet on that) but you have to be present, and you have to show her you're a charming well adjusted person and from what you described you didn't do that. You were just a dude sitting on an adjacent chair with your dick in your hand, not saying anything, and that's creepy as fuck and no one would want that in their social circle.

If you have a second chance with her, and you like her, stop caring about just the sex. Focus on other parts of the evening, and you'll eventually go to where you want to go.

2012-08-11T08:10:11+00:00

There have been a couple times where I encountered a similar situation. I simply wasn't in state at the moment, the vibe wasn't there, I wasn't having a good time, or someone was getting all the attention from the group and I was sidelined and having a bad time. And finally if I can't isolate someone from the group to have a nice private chat (it doesn't have to be a girl, it could be a guy and he has a hobby I'm interested in). In each of these cases I decided to cut my losses and ejected. And I don't feel ashamed either, there's no reason for me to be there if I'm not having a good time and no one else is enjoying my company. I'll look at my phone, tell my friends I'm leaving to hang out with someone else or off to another party (which in my mind is a slight DHV to save some face after the DLV's earlier). And that's it. Maybe other people can critique me, but this is how I run the game sometimes.

This reminds of The Game whenever Neil Strauss ran into that famous 90's blonde bisexual actor from some popular TV series (I can't believe I forgot his name). Neil went through the same thing you did, but he counterattacked and out amoged the amog. Than again you gotta be careful, Neil was already an accomplished PUA at this moment, there's a fine line between out amoging and turning the social gathering into a dick measuring contest.

locotx · 2012-08-11T14:31:12+00:00

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2012-08-11T16:37:58+00:00

You should of played it cool and escalated more on the next date. As much as your friends with Jeff, in the end it just got in the way of you TWO sharing a night together. The one thing I didn't get was how you said Jeff got you the girl and just ended up being a complete cock block. I understand they are good friends but he could of made small talk for 5 to 10 minutes instead of intruding on your date. I don't know if he had the intentions to cock block but he definitely has the common sense to know that you guys are on a date. To be honest, it was pathetic how he ended up tagging along the whole night.

One piece of advice:

We set up to meet tonight and she comes and picks me up.

This could of been what really hurt you. You have to make the girl know that it's going to be a date and not a meet up, it will change her expectations a bit. Also, if you had a car you could of picked her up and it would have enabled you to lead the date.

2012-08-11T16:40:03+00:00

I have to agree here with what is being said. If you are going at it only for getting some ass, they will sense your game. Seeing that you got jacked off over the entire situation, and her sitting next to your friend, shows you are a tad immature. Why didn't you just have fun with everyone there?

tall_geek · 2012-08-12T00:26:05+00:00

OK. So forget what you didn't do right. Now wait a week or more and see if she forgets your last text. When you resume texting her, act like nothing happened and just say something like "Awesome xxx event is on tomorrow. Wanna come?". If she turns you down, say "I'll be thinking of you while XXX have lost of fun.". Next time invite her some other event/place. Girls forget and forgive you. Just give it some time. Unless she's into Jeff now. In that case more on. Watch "simple pickup" on youtube.

ABadSanta · 2012-08-12T15:01:27+00:00

Hey man. Shit happens. Everyone is going to have times like that. But with each time you learn something you shouldn't do and something you should do.

I don't think you should've texted her that, and i think next time you can try to lead things off more in conversation by asking questions or adding commentary.

ProfessorTesla · 2012-08-11T16:06:53+00:00

The problem is that your playing the game too much. Your a person, these are human beings, not chess pieces. Jeff didn't fuck you over, he hung out with his friend Sarah, you're just too horny to realize this. Stop looking at Sarah as a sexual object you idiot. Your sex crazed not interested in dating. Go to a bar and take some drunk chick home and stop being an asshole. That is far from the worse date ever. If you were a normal human being that would have been a fun time.

MetalMeltdown · 2012-08-11T09:38:49+00:00

You know just this last week I walked out on an hb8 and an hb9, not just like hey I don't feel right but like turn my back and walked the fuuuuuuuuuck out like I was king kong. The 8 (who has a serious bf) won't stop texting me trying to meet up for drinks, and the 9 is going on a legit date with me next week. What I got out of this (and I'm pretty new to the game) is that sometimes disinterest can go a long way. I'll go into detail on the 8 but I'm doing this from my phone so bear with me.

So I've known this girl for a little while, she's been seeing the same guy since I met her and but we just hit it off as great friends before I got into gaming. So I figure "hey she's cute as fuck ill try a little play with her." Well it worked. Got her attracted, talking about how if she wasn't in a serious relationship she would be with me blah blah blah. Well one night she comes over but won't stay, bf is coming to her house and all. So she leaves, we text, she says bf cancelled and I should come by. I get there, kino like a champ, escalated quick and I have this girl jellied in my lap just begging for some love. Her bf texts her. He's changed his mind and will be there in 2 hours (when he gets off work). So she says "two hours is plenty" but I'm just like errrr tell him not to come over. She won't, insists two hours is fine. So I pick her up, move her away and say bye, no kiss, no hug, just bye. I'm gone. I get home (2 minutes away) and I have 2 texts from her asking if I'm mad. I tell her no, just going to bed. Next day she tells me "so my bf is over for the weekend, ill find a way to text you and figure out how to come over on Saturday. I wanna have a few drinks with you." We text a little back and forth and again it escalated quick, got her eating out of my hand.

Now the reason I say this is because of my "cold shoulder" is because when I was afc chode status and being nice to her, she never would talk if her bf was even remotely on her mind. She just blew me off. But when I turned the tables she couldnt get enough. Now she asks me if she can sneak off with me, not the other way around. And the 9 is in a similar position.

Now I can't say for sure that it will work every time, its only two girls I've done this two and both situations were different, but it seems to be that if I feel wronged and blow a girl off, she is going to want me that much more because she suddenly feels like I need to accept her. Also I quit looking at 9s and 8s as these goddesses and just offend they're normal people like myself. Makes it pretty easy to walk away from them without the "look back to see if they're watching" thing.

Title	[FR] worst fucking date ever
Author	vonlenskaa
Upvotes	46
Comments	45
Date	August 11, 2012 5:00 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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