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[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome 76 points77 points78 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
You probably don't have a testosterone problem. I think this, like 'genetics' is a bit overrated.
Instead of actually going out with her with the pre-disposition of "Oh well, she's into me, I have to fuck her" just go out with the mentality that she's a person, she's probably interesting and you can perhaps find someone to hang out with a bit. If she doesn't interest you after the first (or perhaps second) time, as a person, then just kind of slowly cut radio contact.
[–]PoliceMachine 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Will those bullet points you've put actually increase testosterone levels? I have a similar problem to OP, I generally can't be bothered playing the game to get a gf or a one night stand and was wondering why that would be
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Yes, to a degree.
Being dominant, winning or generally 'outdoing' somebody in any situation stimulates the production/release of testosterone.
Viewing attractive women stimulates the release of testosterone.
Exercising, strength training and, sports and all this kind of stuff increase the levels.
Diet is essentially the fuel for everything in your body, missing out on some essential nutrients will affect your body chemistry.
Jerking off and watching porn actually damages your (but more watching porn) activity levels as a result of fucking up your pleasure-feedback areas of the brain.
[–]ImNotLysdexic 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Also, Taking cold showers. Power posing.
[–]bendandanben 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just made me go get a cold shower which I know I'll hate. Cheers.
[–]coochchilli1 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Sources? Especially for the first two points
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
ask doctor
[–]coochchilli1 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Unless your doctor is a urologist or endocrinologist I'd be skeptical of that
[–]elipenk91 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There are ted talks about this topic given by doctors. As a person in pursuit of a career in STEM i would say causation=/= corolation but if it works often enough and no one is able to dispute it its called a negative proof just like ( similar to how the second law of thermo was made in to a law). Which is why I would also recommend 21cetury conferences videos ...
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
be skeptical then
[–]PoliceMachine -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks that's really useful! I'm fairly active with sports but eat horrendously. I'll improve my diet and report back! Haha
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spot on advice!
[–]elucubra 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop jerking off, stop watching porn.
Actually, this will do it for the majority of men. There are are some that have abnormally low sex drives, but for the vast majority, not stroking the stick and watching real women outside will do the trick.
The other points a fine also, but less important.
[–]LogicManifesto -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, all of the bullet points 100%
[–]whosewineisthis 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The perfect answer. I would only add accomplishments to that list.
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think that just adds to happiness :D
[–]whosewineisthis 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely! It betters the lifestyle :D
[–]MrCots1 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
My situation is also kinda similar to OP. I'm making great progress on the first four points (Fap/porn, diet, sleep, fitness), but its kinda hard for me to be social at this time. Majority of my close friends are very much into drinking; alcohol is involved pretty much whenever we are hanging out.
I'm currently attending alcoholic anonymous meetings, and I'm trying to quit drinking/cigarettes for at least weeks or months; however long it takes for me to come to the point where I feel comfortable that I've established good habits and I feel like my life is on the right track.
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, breaking habits is hard but it just requires you to break down that whole pleasure feedback system - and that requires neglecting it for significant time while ensuring it's still stimulated by other things.
Stay away from alcohol - keep up that good work.
I think in the situation where your friends go out bar-hopping and to that kind of social event you really need to get another friend circle. Keep the friends, but naturally your own health takes priority over socialising with your mates.
There are so many things to be social. I have a slightly similar problem. I live outside a major city and just moved, my friend circles are pretty small at the moment.
I think really you just gotta keep investing in yourself a bit. Join some clubs, take up hobbies. I know this is a mantra that is repeated over and over. But I started rock climbing, go airsofting, social groups, joined a book club, I've always been into boxing/mma/etc so i joined a new gym and continued to do strongman stuff. You really just gotta put yourself out there and meet people.
I think once you have established youself as a regular to these groups such friendships will begin to flourish and they won't be predicated on meeting where the bad stuff is flowing.
Keep at it, be strong, brother.
[–]a_friendly 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
bro the one night stand culture isn't all its cracked up to be.
I much prefer the solid connection I get from really being with someone. sex is infinitely better for me with emotion attached. maybe you're the same.
don't just fuck to fuck bro. fuck cuz you want to.
[–]nitrologly 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I do both personally. I just live life and take things as they come... lol
[–]xzak 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think thats the best way to live.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
/r/nofap. Lots of outsiders shit on the subreddit, and, at times, rightfully so; there's a ton of nonsense and garbage posted by a lot of nofappers. However, to me, it's about ridding yourself of your destructive masturbation habit, which is most likely why you have a zero sex drive and don't find your colleague attractive.
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
To be honest it's not really that fapping gives you superpowers - it's really that looking at porn and jerking off all the time affects your natural triggers for sexual arousal. You start getting your dopamine highs from turning on your computer or browsing to porn sites rather than seeing some sexy curvy girl who is looking at you with "fuck me" eyes.
"I've been doing nofap for 5 days and feel like super man, have no social anxiety" is all probably psycho somatic... which ironically is the fundamental problem with watching too much porn anyway.
I have noticed actually though that if you don't release for 3 days the next few days you feel like a monster - did i just undo my own point with my own anecdotal bullshit? probably.
One thing is true though, or maybe two: Jerking off and watching porn every day is most definitely not good for your psyche.
Porn, for one, has made it so i'm quite unattracted to most women's breasts. The girl has to be petite or bolted - any kind of hang or similar really kills me - It's one of the reasons i find it very very hard to date bigger girls... you know, aside from the other things.
[–]pacg -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bolted?
[–]Squand 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look like implants. Bolt on.
[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep, fake breasts
[–]maturioni 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think I've been having similiar feelings. I'd say I have a relatively low libido for a male and I'm quite choosy when it comes to dating.
During the last two years or so, I met a good number of girls that showed interest in me and with some of them I even had dates. But with very few exceptions, I turned all of them down. I don't date or have sex with women that I'm not genuinely interested in. And perhaps it's the same with you? I know plenty of other men that behave the same way.
I think it's a popular misconception about male sexuality that men always want sex. Women usually don't have to explain themselves if they turn down a guy and men shouldn't have to either.
[–]baconvader 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you're looking to increase testosterone, here's The Red Pill Guide! https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3nrxyh/the_trp_guide_for_increasing_testosterone/
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Beautiful.
Edit: wish this where higher. I wrote it
[–]supermanshazam 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't want to, don't. Google how to increase libido. Diet, gym, lifestyle all contribute
[–]DontQuixote 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Start r/nofap first.
[–]white_gelt 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can't hurt to have your testosterone checked by a doctor. If it's low then your doc can help you out with that.
Some people are just less motivated by sex than others. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with that. Just do what makes you happy. Consider whether you are happy in other areas of your life though, because maybe you're dealing with some depression.
There's also the possibility that you are subconsciously rationalizing why aren't pursuing girls. You may have some underlying fears or anxiety that you're translating into lack of desire.
[–]nathansweeney 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mate, stop jerking off and watching porn Game changer for me
[–]silver_light 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I haven't for a month. No change
Stop looking at porn/jerking off. Porn includes looking through pictures of attractive women on any site (like TMZ, facebook) etc, even if fully clothed. It's just telling your brain that there's a perfect 10 around every corner, so why bother putting in that effort and emotional risk for a 7?
PS You may just not be into some women too that are considered conventially "not ugly" or "attractive." Happens to everyone.
[–]Bagel90 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One night stands don't do it for me either. The sex gets better and better IMO until around 6-12 months in.
I have issues.
EDIT: Stop watching so much porn, go to the gym and build muscle, eat healthy, sort your sleeping patters -> aim for at least 7 hours. Try to match your sleep pattern to day light hours. Read like you get paid to read.
[–]ScumbagPotato 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude just because you don't want to fuck everything that moves doesn't make you immasculine. In fact it shows that you have self-respect at your core and that sex means something more to you than just getting your Jimmy rustled. You're doing fine, man. Just keep doing you.
Edit: Also I support everyone's suggestions to do nofap. It will change your life.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats a lie. You went here in seduction for a reason, this sexual drive is here, it just hide behind anxiety.
[–]Mehdiway 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feels like the same story happened to me. I forced myself to go on dates with girls just to see what relationships are like. Turns out it's not really that interesting and chose to focus on personal development and my career instead.
[–]mcbobo 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go a week without jerking off, then do it again. Then take another week off sometime.
Go lift some heavy shit.
Realize you're alone.
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[–]TheMinistryOfAwesome 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If he didn't want it then why would he post it here?
[–]faxfinn -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop with the porn and jerking off. In 3 days time you'll feel like a 13 year old who just learnt the pleasures of playing with his dong.
[–]hamfraigaar -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know, you don't have to change your life for us. Nobody says you have to fuck anyone, or hang out with anyone, if you're satisfied. That's the whole point, satisfaction.
Sounds to me like your problem is something completely unrelated. One thing you can't do is perform while you're not in control of your own life. The most important thing starting out is getting your shit together.
[–]joaoluizsn -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
join /nofap (after 8 weeks off, you def gonna see some changes) also, as many have said: working out and cutting sugar can help with your testosterone levels
How much do you masturbate? That can absolutely affect your sex drive.
[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel as if I'm feeling the same way. I had two weeks where I fucked 3 different chicks, and now I don't care anymore. Not sure if abundance mentality or something else, though I'm inclined to believe the latter.
[–]OrangePeel_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You fucked 3 chicks that you don't give a shit about. That's not really the sort of thing that feeds your soul. Find one girl that you can't stop thinking about and your sex drive will come back 10 fold.
[–]amit240 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nofap
[–]Squand -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Op, how often do you watch porn and or masterbate? Is it really a sex drive issue? Or have people guessed correctly that you jerk off every day and that's what's satisfying you?
[–]brasileiro555 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lack of testosterone or DHT or too much estradiol can be a problem but, probably is too much porn and fap ... thousads found the cure to the same problem here https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/
It might be that you're simply not attracted to her. Don't force yourself to do anything that you don't want to, that's the main rule in life. Do what you want (only exceptions are work and school of course unless you enjoy it then even better).
Some people just prefer relationships to one night stands, again nothing wrong with that. Are you able to be attracted to other girls? Do you watch porn? If you can't get tuened on by all girls then you either have a testosterone problem (see a doctor) or you're gay.
[–]Spacemage -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My advice. Go do it anyways. You need the adventure. If you don't think you do, you're not thinking.
[–]itsmevichet -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I really need to boost my testosterone levels I think.
Why? It's not like you get a prize for having lots of sex. It sounds like you don't even want to have a lot of sex.
Unless you're lying to yourself, and by extension, lying to us.
Do you really want to have sex, but are making up circuitous excuses to explain your behavior, which is likely just motivated by fear, like 99 percent of guys who have ever had issues talking to women?
There are two possibilities here:
So, if you want real advice, it has to start with acknowledging that you actually want help in the first place.
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