What's with this double standard of hot girls wanting to be treated as normal people while acting like dating less attractive guys is below them?

2020-12-15T15:47:13+00:00

This post/comment has been removed because it violates Rule #5: The topic is too broad, has been covered a lot already, or involves the assumption overly limited by race, age, physical limitations/appearance, and/or other inborn external qualities.

Put in some reading & work before asking questions that have been addressed, like: * How do I approach? * How do I get a number? * How do I talk to girls at college? * How/When do I kiss a girl? * Does this really work?

As for the last one, it is an answered question. There have been many posts on physical limitations over the years, including this one. No need to re-ask it.

thesalz03 · 2020-12-15T12:13:32+00:00

What woman are really saying is they don’t like needy men.

Stay away if they think less attractive men are below them.

KingRemu · 2020-12-15T09:10:36+00:00

Just ignore these kinds of women. Let them live in their fantasy land and focus on yourself.

Fabulous-Walrus-7443 · 2020-12-15T14:16:43+00:00

So you’re mad that these woman that you find attractive want to be treated like people but you think it’s unreasonable that they don’t want to date people they don’t find attractive? Wtf is wrong with this sub?

Tractor-92 · 2020-12-15T10:39:18+00:00

-Man, this thing happens because of those beta guys who put women on pedestal and offer the free attention.

-In our days, quality does not matter. If a girl has enough folowers, in her mind she will be a 9 or a 10 while she is fucked up emotionaly and so on, and in reality the looks it all she has and she is a 7 at max.

-I had your toughts> You can t change what i wrote up. But you can play the game by your rules. That means sometimes be ok with beeing single. Develop yourself and you can date the girls you wish and control the outcome.

Pixie-G · 2020-12-15T13:31:47+00:00

This post sounds very project-y. Idk what happened bud, but there are plenty of fish in the sea.

_its_only_forever · 2020-12-15T09:31:19+00:00

Some people who are stupid and shallow, not just women, think they deserve someone who has superficial qualities that to be fair, they absolutely deserve because people who have and value those superficial qualities often are attracted to people who, like them, are stupid and shallow. Thus they can be happily miserable together. And they often are.

Not sure why you seem to have FOMO here if you're so enlightened yourself, OP. Nor what discussion is needed to understand that there are shallow people in the world and not everyone is a model of kindness and introspection on the finer points of inner beauty. Or why it is you want to call out beautiful women in particular.

impressmain7 · 2020-12-15T12:48:58+00:00

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pua_max · 2020-12-15T09:11:51+00:00

There’s no double standard. They want men who are high value enough that they genuinely don’t see the hot girl as special.

Robo_dogo · 2020-12-15T13:43:15+00:00

Wanting to be treated like a normal person and having dating standards are not conflicting values and should not be juxtaposed with each other to point out a hypocrisy.

lovesports19942020 · 2020-12-15T14:02:05+00:00

I disagree with you, I see that most women date average looking guys, and I have seen many attractive guys that have no girlfriends. it's all about confidence. Actually, it's funny when women say that they prefer romantic men but the date players the most times.

Hi_Panda · 2020-12-15T11:36:17+00:00

there's no double standard, just don't date these hot girls if that bothers you enough.

djdante · 2020-12-15T13:20:37+00:00

Firstly - plenty of attractive women date less attractive men - unless you are focused on the kind of women who are obsessed with how they look, women who are slightly narcissistic and superficial. because then yes those particular women will focus on superficial traits in their partners as well but that certainly is not the majority of attractive women.

Secondly, try re writing this in another way....

"What's up with all these Intelligent girls wanting to be treated like anyone else but not wanting to date men who are a lot less intelligent than they are?"

Can you see the logic flaw yet?

We want to maximise our options get the best we can with the assets we possess.

Attractive women have more options in men - they're just maximising - men do it too.

But women who are attractive and that is all they have going for them quickly find that the only men who will date them are incredibly flawed and those women end up in horrible relationships. The women who focus on far less superficial aspects end up in higher quality relationships. most women learn this in time.

2020-12-15T14:04:14+00:00

This is some beta-cuck shit right here

lavenderstrawberries · 2020-12-15T09:54:42+00:00

Sometimes those women are under a lot of pressure. This may sound really whiny, but I guess I’m conventionally attractive and my current boyfriend and my ex boyfriend are not. They are wonderful men, kind, intelligent, loyal, compassionate - but every single person, honestly, EVERY single person who met me and my boyfriend commented on how far I’m out of his league, if I didn’t want Someone attractive, how I could even have sex with him because they were so “below me”. I stood my ground with those people, but some women care a lot about the opinions of their friends (and most attractive women are friends with other attractive women) and it can be really hard and stressful to constantly have people make fun of the person you love.

khloebaboey · 2020-12-15T11:53:07+00:00

Imo girls usually choose a guy based on personality and ambition/success. A lot of average looking guys look better cause they gym all the time and do self care and have confidence. Attractive girls (for the most part) aren’t attracted to someone who doesn’t care about their appearance or is insecure.

2020-12-15T11:57:31+00:00

They sometimes also have the complex of "I gave an ugly guy a chance a few times" so I'm officially a good person.

madame_imane · 2020-12-15T12:04:48+00:00

They probably say it publicly so they don't attract jealousy & catty behaviour from other women who envy beautiful women.

whyinaughta · 2020-12-15T13:45:55+00:00

It seems like if you were a hot guy you’d do the same thing... this is just the standard. Sure not everyone is a complete dick about it to the other persons face ... but behind closed doors people love to spew garbage from their mouth. Also “you always hear attractive girls yata yata” makes me feel like this is just conjecture and you’re bored or something. This isn’t even really a question more like old news and you’re wasting your time thinking about shit like this when you can be bettering yourself in other ways

gammaJinx · 2020-12-15T13:46:02+00:00

Bruh this is a dangerous mentality to have. I know this because I used to have it. You honestly just treat girls like humans being. Of course there's a range of attractiveness which is subjecting depending on who you are but you shouldn't it stop you from trying or putting attractive girls on pedestal. If you're not getting the girls you want just work on improving yourself and that's all you have to worry about.

2020-12-15T14:39:36+00:00

Yeah I don’t “always” hear attractive girls doing any of the things you mentioned. I was in a sorority and a cheerleader through college, constantly surrounded by hot girls, and we never had those conversations about looks. It was usually more like “I don’t know if he’s my type physically but we really hit it off so I’m going”. If a girl thinks she’s above someone based on looks it’s not because she’s attractive it’s because she’s a bitch and extremely insecure. I can probably count on one hand the number of ‘so hot it’s unreal” girls with the kind of attitude you’re describing and they’re all on the trophy wife with a cabana boy career path. The vast majority of them are secure enough to date whoever they want, regardless of looks, as long as they treat them well. Maybe if it’s obvious you just don’t care about yourself, always wearing stained clothing or never brushing your hair - but that’s less about the appearance and more about an inability to put any effort into existing.

If girls are repeatedly telling you they don’t like being sexualized and they don’t date guys like you, there’s a good chance they’re talking about you specifically and it means you’re inappropriately forward, probably a little creepy and she doesn’t like it. They’re talking about you - not your looks. Saying you wouldn’t be with “a guy like that” is almost never about looks in my experience. I’ve never heard a guy that’s actually nice or respectful or fun to be around say women don’t like them for their looks. I have heard a lot of egotistical creeps who can’t comprehend that a woman wouldn’t like them because they’re an egotistical creep. Datable guys don’t reduce a woman’s entire opinion about one of the most important decisions you make in life (who you’ll marry and be with forever) to a shallow glance at someone’s looks. They have thoughts and feelings and a lot of reasons they decided to date someone. Plenty of really ugly guys have gorgeous wives, hot girls aren’t all the same and they all go for different things in a guy. It’s not about them, it’s you

lastkiss · 2020-12-15T15:16:19+00:00

Get over yourself. Girls don’t owe you shit, including their attention or time.

JuneBerryBug94 · 2020-12-15T15:39:09+00:00

Lmao if your argument starts with, “if that group of people want to be treated like NORMAL people, they should do xyz...” you’re a fucking idiot. Replace the term hot girl with any other group of people and ask yourself how that sentence reads. All people should be treated like normal people.

It sounds like you’ve been rejected by someone you find attractive and your salty about it, or you are very into the “hot girl doesn’t want nice guy” trope. Either way I have to ask, where are you getting your information from? From women you find attractive? How in the world do you know if someone who rejected you has a “I wouldn’t be caught dead with that guy mentality”? What does a women have to do to have this double standard as you say, other than just not want to date you?

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

2020-12-15T12:22:11+00:00

Ignore it. There’s nothing deep to discuss here really, just that most people are binary thinkers are unaware of their own double standards. Don’t make this “a type” in your head, because you generally shouldn’t want to surround yourself with someone so bitter and shallow if you want an insightful, pleasant experience with someone else.

cochino20 · 2020-12-15T13:09:11+00:00

Just cause you want certain things to happen doesn’t mean you throw your standards away

revente · 2020-12-15T13:11:01+00:00

But they are normal. Mediocre or even ugly girls, also won't date guys less attractive than them.

mandoa_sky · 2020-12-15T14:39:55+00:00

attraction is as attraction does.

why do you WANT to date someone who doesn't think you are attractive?

ImJustSo · 2020-12-15T15:39:22+00:00

Dating someone you find unattractive is literally below every person on the planet. If you want to have a legitimate discussion, then ask questions relating to value judgements.

As your question stands, it doesn't have any logical answer, because it's not a logical question. There's multiple logical fallacies in your premises, so your question becomes logically flawed.

You could ask other questions like, "Why do women find money attractive? They'll date ugly men with money because they find that attractive! Isn't that gross? Yucky."

But asking why someone won't date someone they find unattractive? Why the fuck would they? No money? No car? No good looks? No good conversation? They just spread their legs for no reason? To that unattractive man? The fuck?

"A woman wants to be treated like a normal person, not judged entirely on their looks, so why won't they date men based entirely not on their looks?!"

You think that's normal? That makes no sense at all.

2020-12-15T12:53:29+00:00

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tylerden · 2020-12-15T13:14:59+00:00

They want their cake and eat it. They just want something they can't have.

Nighthaven- · 2020-12-15T13:26:45+00:00

In our species, in the dating pool: since there's always more available men than women - (young & fertile) women have by default more value than you.
As a woman why would you ever 'mate' with someone equal to you (some random exceptions) when you can always have someone better? (-and with an equal society even more men are 'disqualified').
(80% of men are competing for bottom 20% of women and 80% of women are competing for top 20% men)

and that's why men put up with more dysfunctional relationships: you either have 'that' or you'll have none.

As a man you are essentially a war resource (less relevant with technology) or a modern slave: existing to create demand for supply and goods.

Loser men are alone their whole life. Cold 'comfort' is that other species have it worse - yet they are not in pressure society.

Now here's your happy pill to be a good slave, or there's suicide.

BigboyGutz · 2020-12-15T13:41:11+00:00

You're wasting your time by logically reasoning with females. Know the facts, Exploit the flaws, Play the game

PsychologicalChart9 · 2020-12-15T13:35:19+00:00

Ask yourself this: why would she need to settle? She's attractive enough to get more than several offers each day, likely both solicited and unsolicited ones.

We can definitely agree on that, some people could use being taken down a peg or two, when it comes to their attitudes. Though, that itself usually stems from self-worth issues. A person who acts "toxic", generally feel like they only have few qualities to offer, so they put so much emphasis on those qualities, in order to not feel so bad about themselves, while still having their self-hatred projected back to them, via making you dislike them. It's an ego snack, the opposite side of the compulsive pleaser coin.

Taking that into consideration, makes you kinda feel bad for them. Or pitiful. Maybe, you realize that acting surprised, then bursting out with laughter when they jab at you, responding with "okay then, lovely meeting you", then walking away without turning back, maybe still having trouble holding back your chuckle, is an effective way of ridding yourself of their toxic, while simultaneously fucking with their psychological make-up. If you're feeling particularly sadistic, join your group of friends, say something to them, look over at them, and laugh again really loudly. If they aren't truly narcissistic, you've ruined their evening, as a thanks for trying to ruin yours, and maybe, just maybe, they're now morbidly curious about who you are, but probably too embarrassed and afraid to do anything about it.

veeeerain · 2020-12-15T13:40:32+00:00

If your referencing the attitude of the girls in your post OP, some of these girls date less attractive dudes because most of the time they are a beta male provider, whether it’s financially, emotionally etc. These kind of men don’t have an abundance mindset. And treat these kind of girls as some kind of goddess. The women ur referring to they go after are guys who don’t really make the girl feel any special, because the men themselves have an abundance mindset and give the girl an implicit insecurity of “I could be replaced by another girl”. However this mindset doesn’t have to come from the extremely attractive male, it can be any guy really you just have to apply the mindset and be high value yourself first, that’s the key, being high value YOURSELF first.

Mustang9512 · 2020-12-15T14:26:23+00:00

!RemindMe 8 hours

Dogpower2007 · 2020-12-15T14:40:24+00:00

They don't want to lose their precious populair status. Patheticcaly as they are, popularity stands above love for them. You see them as a happy person, standing above the rest, dumping and dating people left and right, BUT, they are dying inside, just because they want to get popularity, that is why they want to not date 'less attrective guys'. In short: If girls date a 'less attrective guys', they lose their status. But they also want to be normal, but that means losing their status, that is what makes them dying inside... wise advise: don't become popular...

causeNo · 2020-12-15T14:45:09+00:00

From experience, having banged my head against a ton of "unsolvable" riddles like that myself I can tell you the surprisingly simple answer: People lie. A lot! To everyone, including themselves.

They want to be valued for more than their looks by a guy who ticks all their boxes. And frankly, that is not very different for men.

robertfordphd · 2020-12-15T14:52:05+00:00

Related perhaps? https://youtu.be/IWOn0X_sAg8

impressmain7 · 2020-12-15T14:53:01+00:00

We have to remember that not all attractive women are the same or think the same. Some attractive women are very humble and some of them are very narcissistic.

I think they are fed up with men being cowards and not approaching them/talking to them. I think what they’re really saying is “men have to grow a pair so that I have a better chance of finding a guy that I like”.

It’s ironic that most beautiful women I come across have boyfriends that don’t look as good as them. Women aren’t attracted to that, they like personality and status x10 more.

Sakura-is-useless · 2020-12-15T15:13:07+00:00

It’s life man. Humans are illogical people. Our reasonings always contradict each other. What can u do about it? It’s easier to change yourself than to change society as a whole. That’s always a losing battle

EE__Student · 2020-12-15T15:16:28+00:00

That's just people for you

Title	What's with this double standard of hot girls wanting to be treated as normal people while acting like dating less attractive guys is below them?
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Date	December 15, 2020 9:08 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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