The “women can dictate men’s behavior by who she sleeps with” mindset shows so many flaws.

shockingly_bored · 2024-10-11T12:50:38+00:00

just pussy on the mind 24/7/365

Crude, but not wrong. Still doesn't mean men must therefore make every decision based on this. It's constant, but men do disregard this to focus on what they need to do. I mean it may be normal for women to go outside frequently and not be attracted to a man they see for weeks or months. Men will be attracted to a lot of women they see outside on a day to day basis. Men aren't slavishly therefore coming onto every third or fourth women they come across however.

John_Oakman · 2024-10-11T15:04:31+00:00

In terms of ideals and moral virtues you are of course correct, so let's move on from that and start discussing the pragmatic issues: Specifically that most humans (of both genders) react to worldly incentives/disincentives, and generally tend to fall far short of the bare minimum of genuine moral virtues that is expected by many members of this subreddit.

Moving on from that many people (a plurality if not a majority) specifically crave validation from those who are unlikely to give to them in their first place. This subreddit frequently gives examples of that: many of the threads made are made with the purpose of asserting the supremacy of the OP's doctrine and seeking the submission of the opposition (which never happens anyway, but that's beside the point).

Thus to circle back to the original topic: many males (and some men) crave sex to such an unhealthy degree because of the perception that they're not getting what most people are acquiring easily, and that they are lesser for that (and socially, it's true to a certain extent).

As for sex strikes: they tend to have limited effectiveness due to women tend to make exceptions for the men who should have been on the receiving end of the strike while punishing the males who either are on their side or won't seen the difference due to not having any options in the first place.

shadowrangerfs · 2024-10-11T23:01:39+00:00

I'll start with the last thing you mentioned. The reason a sex strike wouldn't work is because women aren't a monolith. There is no issue that all women agree on enough to do one. It would be like if women did a sex strike for abortion rights. It would fail because there are a LOT of pro life women. Those women wouldn't participate. They would continue to fuck their pro life boyfriends and husbands. So, only pro choice men would be sexless. If there was an issue that the overwhelming majority of women agreed on, then a sex strike probably would work.

Women dictating men's behavior through sex is a thing. If a man's behavior results in him getting laid, he's going to repeat the behavior.

While yes, a very small number of men might commit a crime to get laid, most will just find another women who doesn't require that.

But women are the biggest motivator in the world for men. Every boy in high school and college would go home and study three hours a night if the guy with the highest grades had the most girls chasing him.

valerianandthecity · 2024-10-11T13:36:53+00:00

. Its implying that men have no thoughts of their own, just pussy on the mind 24/7/365.

I believe it implies that large numbers of people respond to incentives in regards to modulating their behavior. Extrinsic motivation.

If men enmassed literally refused to date or sleep with fat women that don't go to the gym, then I believe gym memberships would go through the roof because large numbers women want to have relationships and sex with.

It's the same with men, I think a lot of men go down the PUA/game route because they observe men behaving like that (though IMO ignoring other significantly contributing factors) and try to emulate that.

I'm not saying that men cannot change through intrinsic motivation, and I'm not saying that isn't the best motivation for men to change, however I am saying that socially incentivizing and disincentivizing behavior does work. People do respond to social pressure.

However, people who have engaged in violent anti-social behavior (not SA), who never get sex will likely be more likely to SA someone to gratify themselves sexually (which is not theory, it happens regularly in prisons).

So I don't think that it would be a good idea even if enmasse women decided to stop sleep with violent anti-social men. Unless porn consumption, sex dolls, are destigmatized and social encouraged as a substitute. From what I've seen looking into research, when porn was legalized in places like the Czech Republic the rate of sexual violence went down. (It seem the old notion that "SA is about power not pleasure" isn't true for a significant number of people, and is outdate according to research into porn consumption and SA rates.)

So because terrible women want to fuck terrible men, then its ALL women’s fault evil men exists?

Are people actually claiming that?

MongoBobalossus · 2024-10-11T12:35:23+00:00

“If it gets me pussy, I’ll do anything” is the mentality of a simp.

a_minty_fart · 2024-10-11T12:57:36+00:00

I dont understand how guys dont see that as offensive.

It's only offensive if you look at it on the individual level and not the societal one. Dating doesn't exist in a vacuum - it's a market and it's subject to market forces. The rest of your post is mewling so I'll just get to my point:

As women are quick to say "if he won't, someone will" - the sexual market is here for one goal - to fuck. If women, as an aggregate, reward a specific set of behaviors with reproductive opportunities, then those that want to reproduce will conform to those behaviors.

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-10-11T15:01:17+00:00

Ugh, excuse me, but men women don't sleep with don't reproduce and don't imprint their behavioral patterns on their sons to carry further down with history.

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False-Purple3882 · 2024-10-11T17:11:24+00:00

It’s because what men say about women not taking accountability for anything is entirely projection. They always seek to blame women for their negative and even criminal behavior.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2024-10-11T14:03:54+00:00

The women on sex strikes are women nobody wants to sleep with in the first place.

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fuzzymatcher · 2024-10-14T00:46:01+00:00

People respond to incentives news at 11.

If people are positively rewarded for acting a certain way, and aren’t rewarded or possibly even punished for acting in a different way, what do you think the majority of people will do?

ArtifactFan65 · 2024-10-11T18:44:03+00:00

All men are like that.

LillthOfBabylon · 2024-10-12T06:25:30+00:00

Just like terrible men exist, terrible women exist. So because terrible women want to fuck terrible men, then its ALL women’s fault evil men exists?

The bigger issue is that it's not just terrible women that fall for liars, cheats, abusers, criminals and so on; good, kind, intelligent women fall for them as well. I personally don't want to be around the people you deacribe, but good women who have gotten duped by these sort of men are unattractive as well.

Title	The “women can dictate men’s behavior by who she sleeps with” mindset shows so many flaws.
Author	LillthOfBabylon
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Comments	59
Date	October 11, 2024 12:32 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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