“Our boys need strong, positive male role models to look up to.” "since 2010 the number of teachers in our schools has increased by 28,000 – but just 533 of those are men."

Spicy1 · 2025-04-03T12:00:40+00:00

How is it that this unbalance is never addressed?

Angryasfk · 2025-04-03T12:42:06+00:00

It shows how the show Adolescence isn’t as clued into reality as they claim. Most of the teachers in that school were male. And that’s the opposite of reality even in secondary school.

flowerofhighrank · 2025-04-03T13:11:02+00:00

Being a teacher is hard, no matter the gender.

However...

Male teachers face a definite bias because of the image of teaching as a man. 'Why would he want to be around kids all day?' 'All he does is sit and talk and hand out tests!' and etc. I was one of the last male English teachers at my last school before I retired. I was successful and I loved my job - but if I had a behavior or attendance problem, it was perceived to be different from how it would have been perceived in a female teacher's classroom.

The problem isn't going to be solved until teachers are respected as professionals and their impact on their students' futures is valued. And I am not saying that teachers don't have a lot of work to do to make that happen! But unless and until that's done, a lot of men who would be great teachers and who want to be teachers are going to go elsewhere.

jack_avram · 2025-04-03T12:10:43+00:00

Males didn't evolve in this style of rite of passage. In many tribes and then communities, men raised the boys, women raised the girls. Male psychology requires males to truly hone and tame it.

So you're saying women can't do it too? Not entirely their business, when speaking of genuine human nature. These are forces of human nature don't play along with today's political correctness games. The society has grown gravely naive in such matters. To call such offense is an offense to the species. Many things are today, in the name of narratives to exploit it.

Cuntbag42 · 2025-04-03T16:26:20+00:00

Why would a man want to risk, or otherwise do, any of the following:

Enter a profession where a simple accusation of impropriety can end his career (and maybe even his life), regardless of truth

Enter a profession that makes 50%-100% less, on average, than careers with similar non-education degrees

Deal with the constant suspicion of coworkers, and have to otherwise correct their behavior, towards boys

And as a general problem that affects all teachers, work 7-4 and then come home and lesson plan and grade for another 3 hours, for an average 12 hour work day.

There's effectively no incentives drawing male teachers in, and just about every incentive you could think of to push them out.

SecTeff · 2025-04-03T14:16:28+00:00

More men in education would be very good for boys and it would help to address the anti-male bias that many female teachers have.

We should support attempts to make fields more equal for men.

I’m glad government is now realising that having any field dominated by one gender can cause problems

adam-l · 2025-04-03T13:59:27+00:00

They like it when female teachers flood education, they don't like it when they produce hysteric boys. Hello!

criolle · 2025-04-03T19:23:17+00:00

As a male teacher, I have taught in public schools.
It's a hostile work environment.
You are regarded as "Taking a Woman's Job!"

HandsomeJack44 · 2025-04-03T17:00:50+00:00

Most teachers are women

Most of these women are leftists

Most leftists viciously hate men

Why wouldn't education have a strong anti-male bias?

motosandguns · 2025-04-03T13:01:11+00:00

Role models do jack shit when they end up turning against society after around 18-24. Why? because the idea of working for a low income for a society as a single individual where everyone is partnered or has better partners isn't much of a marketable idea as people think.

Nymanator · 2025-04-03T16:19:21+00:00

Something I've come to hypothesize more recently is that the benefits of a presence of a positive male figure in a boy's life (and the more serious consequences for the absence of one for boys than for girls) isn't about role modeling at all. Rather, I think that it comes from this person being a mature, compassionate, authoritative figure who actually understands their experiences as boys and treats them accordingly. I believe the power is more in the consequent increased relative effectiveness of their mentorship (active guidance) from these figures rather than role modeling (passively exemplifying). Propping up your token man and pointing to him as an example of how you want a boy to behave isn't going to be as effective as that man actively demonstrating an interest in the boys' well-being and success - which naturally fathers, male community figures, and teachers generally would (and this is actually how the toxic influencers get their hooks in to begin with in the absence of quality mentorship, because they actually speak to how the boys feel and what they want).

aren3141 · 2025-04-03T13:24:37+00:00

I wonder what the ratio of applications is

Acousmetre78 · 2025-04-03T17:42:52+00:00

When I was at an elite graduate school they were only open to hiring female teachers.

ICheckPostHistory · 2025-04-03T22:22:58+00:00

Males are still expected to be breadwinners, and a teacher's salary just is not enough.

2025-04-03T15:36:45+00:00

Oh now they are so concerned? 🤣

To my fellow British guys, don't even bother joining instead start your own classes at home.

The parents who care about their sons? They will send their kids to you.

This seems like a good opportunity for guys to mentor boys embrace their masculinity instead of suppression them for some stupid feminist agendas.

jjj2576 · 2025-04-04T18:40:09+00:00

I tend to get crotchety when folks who have never taught talk about the educational system, but I’ll share a tale.

I interviewed during my last semester studying to teach Secondary English with a “decent” school in AZ. Showed up on time, and talked about how my cooperating teacher was going through Chemo, and that I took up the mantle of ensuring her classes were still engaging & helping students. At the time, I essentially took over the class for the cooperating teacher, which just shouldn’t happen fully with student teachers— it was the embodiment of a baptism by fire.

During the interview the fellow changes his tone, asking me why I am bragging so much about myself, becoming antagonistic. I left it at, “Buddy, it’s an interview. You ask me about teaching, and I tell you about how I do it well. I’m not going to say I’m bad at this in an interview.” The whole interaction was odd.

Two teachers that I was studying with interviewed after me— both showed up late, hungover, interviewed together instead of separate, and got the job. Both were female. I’m glad I didn’t get that teaching job— I found out the school had a lot of administrative issues later.

RomeTotalWar2004Fan · 2025-04-04T18:53:08+00:00

I'm not saying that we should become teachers but we, each of us, can be these role models for our boys.

World-Three · 2025-04-08T14:34:52+00:00

I think the worst problem is that most authoritative women don't problem solve the same way men do.

Zero tolerance isn't enforced properly. Bullying is bullying. And how you feel can affect how you act. The phrase "Sticks and stones" really doesn't amount to anything if you can't leave the place that's giving you grief.

I've had the luxury of living a little before that policy. And there were a lot of people I've crossed fists with that I ended up being fine with after a mutual understanding that we were both willing to defend ourselves. I've also had male teachers address these issues without disciplinary action because they must have known that all a bully needs is a heavy graphing calculator planted square in the face to understand that the next step is the textbook. It's not really something I expect children or even some adults to be able to articulate in words alone, and that lack of ability to communicate is probably doing them just as much of a disservice as learning by hands on activities being ignored in the classroom.

What's worse now is that instead of just being a loser, broke, gay, or simply ugly like before, insults like Incel, or misogynist are much more layered than anything I've ever had to deal with in my childhood. If you're surrounded by mostly the same peers all day, those words are going to be in their minds in the same way the class looks back at black people when slavery gets discussed. There are situations and terms that need to be addressed.

Finlander95 · 2025-04-04T18:29:03+00:00

In my school single moms wanted to put their kids in the class with male teacher. The classes with male teachers had disproportionate amount of fatherless boys. I could notice the issues these guys had growing up. Some getting arrested by the cops.

PenetrationT3ster · 2025-04-05T12:37:31+00:00

Is there a source for that stat?

Spirited_Ad_2063 · 2025-04-07T12:08:07+00:00

People in female-dominated fields are paid less overall. So if men want to make more money, they should opt out of teaching and join a male dominated field.

Lurk-Prowl · 2025-04-08T03:42:24+00:00

Male teacher here: school has become a left-wing echo chamber. Only some of the oldies (50+) are moderate or conservative in my experience

No_Promotion_2533 · 2025-04-08T15:09:13+00:00

Maybe stop telling them they're toxic for being male and blaming everything on them. Maybe stop discrimination against them in every level of society, maybe teach girls to respect men and boys. Also stop trying to control them. My boys will not be influenced by any government bullshit. I'll pull them out of school if anything like that happens and they are free to watch Tate all they want.

You do not control or tell boys what they can and can't do. How about FUCK. OFF. They're just trying to control them. And make them behave how they want them too, so they don't disrupt they're vile agenda they're trying to push on everyone

Expensive-Plantain86 · 2025-04-11T00:08:50+00:00

There are more female fighter pilots in the military than there are male kindergarten teachers.

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