Red pill and mgtow dead or dying?

organicchemistry1119 · 2025-05-27T07:09:17+00:00

If that's what you're seeing, maybe it's an algorithm feeding you what you've been looking at, which may not be those things (anymore) or just downright censorship.

ItPutsLotionOnItSkin · 2025-05-27T07:26:14+00:00

Reddit and most social media is trying really hard to kill the movement.

DecisionPlastic9740 · 2025-05-27T07:55:40+00:00

Once you've learned the information there really isn't a reason to keep watching. Take the information and move on so to speak.

Less-Risk-9358 · 2025-05-27T08:23:46+00:00

They have assimilated into popular culture.

organicchemistry1119 · 2025-05-27T07:13:20+00:00

Men need to work together more and not just "go their own way". I know that saying applies to men going their own way, away from women, but men tend to be lone wolfs in general a lot of the time, so it's important that we at least work together to protect our rights.

Red-Pilled-Aussie · 2025-05-27T07:18:46+00:00

Quite the opposite. I’ve noticed the manosphere is actually becoming more mainstream. A lot more men are finally waking up.

aigars2 · 2025-05-27T08:39:34+00:00

One doesn't need "a movement" to realize men are disadvantaged in society intentionally. Every man who had kids knows that. Every man who went to army knows that. Every man who had pension later than spouse knows that. Every average person can look at data and draw conclusions. Trying to implement your attitude in your every day life is more important than those names ever will. Vote with your purchases and acts.

infinitofluxo · 2025-05-27T12:29:57+00:00

What I see is these ideas spreading outside the bubble. They are all over social networks, more and more men are familiar with these ideas and they don't even follow content creators that belong to these categories, their content is spread by algorithms.

So basically they have gone mainstream and will become common sense.

World-Three · 2025-05-27T12:22:43+00:00

I think it's more popular than its ever been.

The worst part about it all has nothing to do with the movement, but the reactions to it. When people make content daily literally reacting to video evidence of women having absolutely no regard for men... You'd think the reaction wouldn't be on the lines of "deal with it or you're an incel"... But that's basically what it is. Do what women want you to do or they'll make you look much worse than you actually are.

People don't want to touch it because of that... Mostly women but some men too have associated agreeing that men are treated or expected to behave a certain way to being an incel, which has been a term women have attributed with much worse behaviors, (like they have with "passive aggressive" decades ago). The attribution to that word often invalidates everything those people say, go through etc.

Think of how many times people exclude men to drive a point. "Especially women and children" they're blazing past men in order to get the feelings of people who only seem to get their neurons active when things they care more about are mentioned, not realizing or caring, that they've thrown down an entire body of people to make that point.

totktonikak · 2025-05-27T07:29:01+00:00

Fewer and fewer? Nope. It's just becoming less edgy and more universally accepted.

WeEatBabies · 2025-05-27T11:37:37+00:00

Mgtow : winning ... Japan has introduced a bachelor tax because low birth rate :)

IndependentBit9249 · 2025-05-27T09:46:53+00:00

Presumably some never truly understood it in the first place.

For me it meant to stop conforming to expectations imposed by women in my life, and start "building my own way, investing time and effort into myself".

Women are more than welcome to JOIN me on this adventure, on my own terms.

nebojssha · 2025-05-27T07:36:07+00:00

I wouldn’t say Red Pill or MGTOW are dead, more like they’re evolving. Most movements are loudest in their early stages when they’re new and provocative. Just because they’re not dominating feeds like they used to doesn’t mean the core concerns have disappeared. A lot of guys still feel lost, confused, or frustrated in today’s social and dating landscape, they’re just exploring different ways to process that now.

Also, realizing uncomfortable truths doesn’t automatically mean you have to become cynical. If a philosophy or movement is making you more bitter or disconnected, maybe it’s not that the ideas are completely wrong, but the way they’re being applied isn’t working for you. Awareness should lead to growth, not hopelessness.

It could be that people are shifting from anger and blame to introspection and self-improvement. You can still be critical of society or gender dynamics without giving up on connection, trust, or optimism. That’s not weakness, it’s maturity. Maybe what you’re seeing isn’t a death, but a transition to something deeper and more constructive.

McHumpin · 2025-05-27T12:57:52+00:00

They aren't dying. It's just becoming more mainstream so there's no point in labeling it

RealStarkey · 2025-05-27T14:18:14+00:00

Just the opposite. Silently rising.

I personally don’t line silence. Men need to speak up. But as a group, they are saying enough!

Dark_Djinn85 · 2025-05-27T10:46:21+00:00

Mgtow and red pill content has been shadow banned from the internet, but in reality, as a philosophy it's stronger than ever.

More and more men refuse to date or engage with women, and while a lot of people would argue that this happens due to their lack of power, it doesn't make a single difference as a real life phenomenon.

NewAgeBS · 2025-05-27T12:00:40+00:00

I miss mgtow on reddit, that was fun to read. I've never been into it or red pill or any pill.

Men nowadays just need a place to criticize women, we are expected to act like they're perfect which is insane.

It was hard to believe until I experienced false accusations myself, then realized how much power they have in society. Reading other people's experiences and advices on mgtow prevented the situation from becoming worse.

Probably a lot more men are waking up, but it gets censored and deleted by feminists.

lordDandas · 2025-05-27T10:33:46+00:00

I see it got replaced by blackpill.

Njaulv · 2025-05-27T10:41:59+00:00

They are banned from a shitload of places due to feminist style censorship. So they go to much smaller platforms that few people see or they try really hard to be "politically correct" for lack of a better term in the things they are saying and much less direct or harsh with criticisms. Even if they are not outright banned there is also shadowbanning, algorithm manipulation, and other dirty tactics used.

stent00 · 2025-05-27T14:03:05+00:00

It's not underground anymore it's all fairly mainstream now. No need to put labels on everything. Many dudes are staying bachelor's for a reason... I know I am.

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2025-05-27T17:54:29+00:00

I'm now seeing it on youtube as a normal reaction to women's picky demands and women having no benefit for men. On youtube look up Emily King and Sara Eaton. When it's women complaining about other women treat men badly, then it's accepted vs when it's men who express their pain and frustration. And hopefully a lot of other male - male advocates will pop up in your feed. I'm quite surprised it's so mainstream now on youtube vs reddit.

Enhanced_Health · 2025-05-27T18:00:02+00:00

Noop.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-05-27T18:42:51+00:00

If anything MGTOW is growing.

mrkpxx · 2025-05-27T07:24:28+00:00

The Red Pill is losing its relevance because feminism is slowly losing ground.

CritiquingFeminism · 2025-05-27T07:16:50+00:00

You say: Plus I don’t think things will ever change or get better for males.

No ideology like feminism has ever lasted for ever. Sooner or later people understand the injustice.

justanother-eboy · 2025-05-27T07:24:34+00:00

Idts. RP and mgtow YouTube videos still seem a pretty popular and to be fair men have to deal with a lot of injustice and unfairness

EpicHajsownik · 2025-05-27T07:30:32+00:00

Mgtow in a principle is imo really cool. Since it makes dating easier for other men which in turn makes simping less common

Vinniikii · 2025-05-27T07:35:12+00:00

After relentless censorship, the truth won: misandry is real and many men are second class citizens in modern society. The movement is not dead, it is stronger than ever.

Despite changing the tone of debate, creating a new conventional wisdom, and empowering many men, this is still an active battle. Misandrists cling to power and continually try to brainwash men. Combined with the censorship, some certain phrases and terms (red pill, mgtow, awalt, many others) have left the discourse because they are automatically removed. In digital society there is no point in clinging to blacklisted terms, male advocacy is too necessary and resilient to be pigeon-holed into a limited vocabulary.

Wpns_Grade · 2025-05-27T13:08:05+00:00

Dude the redpill scene is HUGE. It’s the talk of the town.

Kevin Samuel is still gaining subscribers and gets hundred of thousands of views as a dead man. Lmao.

Mill-Work-Freedom · 2025-05-27T13:21:38+00:00

I think it is an intrinsic movement. Men are just unplugging, and there is not really a need to sit around and gab about it like females do.

Live it, Enjoy your best life and let the chaff fall where it may.

Gen_X_Xoomer · 2025-05-27T14:02:34+00:00

They aren’t dying. They’re getting stronger. It’s becoming mainstream because “surprise” women are affected. They can’t find a dude who makes more than them willing to simp out and marry them. Men aren’t giving them sex when they demand it. Men shun them in the workplace due to fear of HR. Their biological clocks are winding down.

Men are checking out by the millions and women don’t want to pay for welfare kings. They’re working 40-60 hours a week and are exhausted. They want a partner to help without actually loving him. They want all the benefits without the responsibility.

Men should continue down this path of anger and resentment. No one is going to help us or admit we have problems. We should let society fail and baske in the warmth of the ashes. That is true power.

SubstantialMajor2798 · 2025-05-27T15:47:31+00:00

Maybe the algorithm cooled down after elections ?

IWontReturnToReddit · 2025-05-27T15:57:34+00:00

Quite the opposite. Their concepts are now mainstream on the internet.

Proper_Frosting_6693 · 2025-05-27T17:00:51+00:00

I think more men than ever have redpill awareness these days and it’s only growing! Mainstream left media will try to subjugate it definitely but most men are aware.

Yes, the same stories do get tiresome in the Manoswamp. You just need to get your info and get out!

not_the_troll · 2025-05-27T17:50:23+00:00

I'll preface by saying that the following does not portray every man who identifies as red pill or mgtow - I've never been a fan of the hateful rhetorics in there as well as the general hatred towards an entire gender. As such I've found it hard to identify with any of those movements whole heartedly. I subscribe to the ideas and philosophies that highlight the suffering of and injustice towards men in general but I try to avoid being the opposite side of the same coin as the "burn it down" "all men are trash" type feminazis. The pendulum has always swung one way or another and one day I'd like to see it come to the centre and stay there. Unlikely for that to happen but one can dream. In the mean time I'm truly doing my own thing and voicing in my opinion where applicable while staying away from generalized hate as much as possible.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2025-05-27T20:48:26+00:00

Not dying more being censored on a lot of places or removed.

And also after hearing topics over and over people don't really talk about it just living it.

Like people only talk about or complain about things when they still in like the transaction face. Most people that are happy and content dont go online and haveing debates with people that dont care about your talking points and twist everything in bad faith argument and make everything you want or value seem sexist. And everything women want no matter how outrageous be empowering and strong and independent.

Alot of people just also found out its pointless to talk with or debate with people. Its like talking to flat earthers you can slap them with books and books of logic and how equal value. And the why should I give you all those things you want and demand. While I get nothing I want in return.

Endless logic and facts and differences ow wants and needs on each side. Don't matter gets ignored by feelings and I want and I feel and I seen a feminist study thats hela biased.

So all that together make it seems its dying. But most people are just past trying to debate. And past trying to see our side. And just contempt with ignoring or pushing selfish women out of there life and treat them the same they treat men with the same contempt they keep giving.

So makes people talk about it less. But not live it less.

Cause there still plenty of men gotta do more men gotta try harder gotta be better. Story's everyday.

But never a story women gotta do better women gotta try harder. Never that.

What makes men just be like im out. And just meeting the investment of women. So the good one get treated like princess if they treat there men like a king.

And women that treat men like a tool or arms get treated like cum socks. And used like they so quick to use men.

With how feminist spaces and most spaces. Actively try and ban male talking point or even how men feel. But feminist tocking point is like a plague. And kill on men. And hate and villainize all men is so common. Take less then 15 seconds to find a story in any feminist friendly subredits what there are a lot of to see.

That most men feel talking is pointless cause no one care and no one is listening or even try and censor or destroy or ban men's talking spaces.

What again make more men live ot and nkt talking about it. Especially in the UK and a few other countries ben openly a red pill or mgtow can get you in big trouble. Cause censorship in australia and the UK has been specifically brutal the last year and a half or so. People getting pulled in jail or big fines. For there online comments. While everyday there feminist comments 20 times worse and that are fine.

So it pushes people to be more hidden. But also more angry and more extreme pushing a side. Cause there is like a active hunt in some places in the world. That we are seen as dangerous men.

But not just red pill or mgtow. But also black pill and passport bros. Most men focusing on them self and there own happiness first. Or pushing back gets banned. I get like weird banns on here also quite often while im quite calm and respectful in my talks but being in anyway anti feminist or lgbtq gets your removed. Saying gender is not a suit you can just switch like cloths gets you banned. Going against feminist talking point and saying why should anyone do all that and get nothing in return for all that service gets you banned.

So people are more silent but never gone. Im just a person that does not care if I get banned or down voted. I see it as a 2 week vacation. Each time. Think already had like 4 this year so.

But hope that helps answer your question

da_trealest · 2025-05-27T21:25:19+00:00

The red pill and MGTOW are movements that are cutting us all up into groups. Therefore making the proletariat easier to control and manipulate.

I hope it dies completely because this is our equivalent of 3rd wave feminism. I’m sure it will come back in full force once we’re in an other election cycle.

wadiostar · 2025-05-27T23:27:38+00:00

Curious to know why this was removed by mods

GoldenFutureForUs · 2025-05-27T09:28:20+00:00

I think aspects of it are becoming mainstream, whilst other parts aren’t.

Parts that are becoming mainstream: criticism of feminism, criticism of women’s dating patterns (also how to capitalise on this), rejecting the constant misandry in education, the media etc., realising that traditional masculinity has so many healthy benefits for men.

Parts that are being rejected: toxic influencers that try to hijack mensrights. Tate for example will likely be imprisoned in the U.K. for human trafficking. Alex Jones is a nutter that says outlandish things for attention - definitely doesn’t believe a lot of what he says. Out-right hate of women - hating misandry doesn’t mean hating women.

I think certain movements like MGTOW are actually still alive and thriving, but not as a general community. Men have just independently realised in huge numbers that dating apps don’t work for them and many women have hugely inflated egos. Many men will tune out of society and just do what makes them happy, instead of torturing themselves over why women won’t date them. That’s not hateful, it’s just accepting that they won’t get the family life their ancestors had.

4444-uuuu · 2025-05-27T10:45:09+00:00

I don't think red pillers are dying. If anything, MRAs are dying out. MRAs used to dominate the manosphere but now you hardly see MRAs and instead you see more Andrew Tate shit

frodominator · 2025-05-27T11:26:07+00:00

I hope red pill evolves into something intelligent. Red Pill is as stupid as radical feminism.

rrumble · 2025-05-27T07:14:34+00:00

It's maybe dying like all niche movements, when they become mainstream to a certain extent.....

MishimasLantern · 2025-05-27T08:22:26+00:00

Red pill isn't really providing an alternative, and while it's necessary to counteract progressive gaslighting to a point, like a shaman or an initiation, it does jack shit to really help men politically or organizing some coherent movement to influence society, instead focusing on just airing grievances, which is fair but shortlived.

Alternatively a watered down red-pill/gym culture has gone mainstream to fill the void around pandemic time for those not sipping leftoid koolaid.

Rare-Discipline3774 · 2025-05-27T14:32:02+00:00

I hope so, nothing will change if your belief is that nothing can change.

Title	Red pill and mgtow dead or dying?
Author	wadiostar
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Date	May 27, 2025 7:06 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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