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Any of you ever been the "Alpha Fucks" part of "Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks?" How did it start, where did it go, did the BB find out? Were you a homewrecker? I'd love to hear about your experiences.

pjewa

June 5, 2014
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Title Any of you ever been the "Alpha Fucks" part of "Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks?" How did it start, where did it go, did the BB find out? Were you a homewrecker? I'd love to hear about your experiences.
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[–]nataliieportman 38 points39 points40 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

After my ex left me in November I started hanging out with new people from class. Turns out this one girl liked me and knew I was always great to my ex (sorority sister of hers.) 18y/o Brown hair/eyes 5'8 C cup/southern girl. We started texting and one night at 3AM she asks if I want to come over. I (still fresh in that beta relationship mindset) was feeling unconfident and told myself no. My roommate looked at my phone and told me, "dude she wants the dick." I had no idea (serious) so I just said screw it, why not. I texted, "Yea, sure I'll come by." I made myself a drink or 2 and went over to her place. When I got there she was just wearing panties and a t shirt with long socks. I, still unconfident, just told myself she's just like this because it's late. (I was AWFUL with signs...) When she told me she had a boyfriend something came over me. It was anger at my ex so I told myself, "fuck it, I'm done letting this bitch control my happiness." I grabbed the girl and and made out with her on the table then we banged like 6 times that day. She had a very nice ring on. I ended up getting some information about it out of her after a month of hooking up. She has a husband that works back home and they married right after high school. Husband knew she played around a bit but the rule was no fucking. He found out, she got mad at me and told me to never see her again. She was my fast course out of the relationship mindset into the harsh "real world" where cheating is real and women can be devious mother fuckers. That first bang post breakup is the best... So, I fucked her best friend to get back at her and now she blows up my phone asking to hang out. Kicker is, she now has a betabucks BF. I never spent a dime on the chick. I just treated her like a piece of ass and clearly she enjoyed it.

[–]pleasedontknowme30 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so she said she had a BF, then it was a husband...and then mad at you for fucking her. LOL, what a bitch.

[–]nataliieportman 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly; she had to pass the blame onto me to make herself feel better.

[–]highstats 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeeeee buddy

[–]TaylorWolf 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She was 18 and already married? Jesus, that is the south for you.

[–]nataliieportman -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I found a stereotypical small town girl. Population was under 1000. Shit is like incest there.

[–]DrGmorkian 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Working in a restaurant while abroad. One of the waitresses was showing interest in me, flirting over the pass, complements and that sort of shit. She had a boyfriend so I didn't even consider it an option. A couple of weeks before the staff xmas party she says she has broken up with him.

The entire staff a great time and the restaurant owners and managers are are drinking like its the end of the world. The restaurant is closed for the evening and that's our starting point for the night. The patron bathrooms are all being used so I go out back to use the staff bathrooms. I exit and shes standing outside. She grabs me and we start kissing, I amp it up a bit, pick her up and put her against the wall. Make out for a bit and get back to the party before the wrong people notice we're missing (non fraternization policy).

Next shift I get here to drive me home, make out some more and tell her I'm not looking for anything serious or permanent. She tells me shes down with casual, we fuck and that goes on for a couple of weeks.

In the 3rd week she invites me to her parents for dinner and I laugh. She drops hints at a bf/gf situation for a few days, I tell her that's not an option, make bang, she goes home, repeat.

She gets a bit crazy at work asking the other chefs how she can "keep me". I tell her she is getting a bit too possessive and we should end it. She responds "Yeah, I was getting a little bored with it anyway"(Hamstering? Don't know, don't care)

The day after she is back with her ex. Never really broke up with him, just told him she needed to be alone for a while. Things only become slightly awkward when the ex gets a job in the bar.

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[–]DrGmorkian 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

That's pretty much what I figured. Bored or not, I didn't care. Sticking your dick in crazy can be fun, but it's a dangerous past time.

As for her boyfriend starting work in the bar, could have been worse. He was a good bloke. Very submissive and needy but good at his job, book smart and kind.

She was a vindictive bitch though. They had a fight after she quit and she gave him the ol' "DrGmorkian's got a pierced dick and fucked me better than you do". He went to the other barmen for advice, they came to me for the rest of the story.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just love the 'I'm bored' hamstering bullshit. Since ingesting TRP and realizing what it really means (I"m horny and my SO is a BP beta bitch) I seem to hear it a lot now. I'm sure I heard it as much as when I was BP, but I just took it at face value then, and, of course, it made no impact. Now, I hear 'I'm bored' as 'I'm DTF.'

[–]dallz_beep 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She gets a bit crazy at work asking the other chefs how she can "keep me"... The day after she is back with her ex. Never really broke up with him, just told him she needed to be alone for a while.

Damn dirty branch swingers.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Upvote for the Heston paraphrase.

[–]bertstare10 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  • I've banged my ex from many years ago busting loads up her ass while she was getting wined and dined by some other guy she began a 2 year relationship with. I didn't know at the time that she was "seeing" this guy while fucking me but I found out when 3 days after she told me it had to end she was in a relationship with him. (must have fucked him and felt too guilty going back to me)

  • I was fucking this girl (actually she was on top if we're being honest) with her phone on the bed next to me. All of a sudden it starts to ring, it was her boyfriend. She started crying and answered the phone. Hilarious that I fucked her again on a different date without her crying.

  • Been fucking this girl who I admittedly haven't been making much of an effort with. She told me tonight she was going out to "eat with a friend" but wanted to hangout later. She texted me around 10 and was getting mad at me for flaking on her (I was at the gym LOL) tonight and sent me like 4 texts about it, so I just replied "were you at least pretending it was me when you were on your dinner date tonight?" ... she lmao'ed.

I've also been "beta-bux" I suppose. 2 Years ago with my ex, she made me wait for sex. I later found out that about 5 days before we met she had had a ONS with another guy and yet made me wait 2 weeks. (the horror). In all fairness I probably cock-blocked myself the first night we met as we were walking back to her room - but that's another story for another time.

Typing this out I'm realizing I'm getting to the point where I can't even remember some of the girls I fucked and I never thought that would ever happen in my entire life. Fuck.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not like I ever sought out girls that were attached but it happened and it has happened a lot more than 20 times easy.

I met this girl randomly as one night in the bar she came up and just sat on my lap and said pretend to be bf and girlfriend. She was decent looking and so just kissed her and got chatting. Went back to her place and nothing at all happened.

The next day we went out with a group of her friends and well me and her friend hit it off and started making out in front of her and we caught a cab to my place and screwed. Well anyway this friend of hers I was banging had a husband and child at home which I didn't know at the time. That girl was pissed off as anything though and whenever she saw my friends she always had a massive rant about what an asshole I was.

Another time my ex had a friend which I was screwing and I found out she had a boyfriend after the fact when she brought him around to my unit to hang. The crazy thing about that was she cut me off in the bathroom/laundry I had and gave me a quick bj (I mean a few sucks). I was kinda gobsmacked. This wasn't a massive place but a 2 bedroom unit. Was fucking disgusting when she gave her bf a kiss on the cheek.

Another girl that was really cute I banged as well and only found out after the fact and they were long broken up. When I was at a friends house and the guy was there and my friend said how it was crazy we had both shagged the same girl and we both had the same name. The guy had only just broken up with her and found out from my friend I shagged her 6 months ago and he was going out with her for 6 years.

Oh man and there have been many more I may type some more out if people care but I have to go now.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Woman was engaged to a man in the military who seemed from a distance like a really nice guy, was working hard and sending her money every month. Neglected to tell me she wasn't single. I told her there was no chance for a relationship, but she kept coming back. After I found out I told her no more, and now she's married and still texting me that she misses me, that I was the best thing to ever happen to her. There have not been too many other occasions as I try to not fuck women who are not single, but one other does stand out where when I was younger and in college I went to the room of someone in my class as she invited me to study and I'm all about that. She first tells me that her boyfriend moved to follow her, that he's paying for all of her college costs, and then propositions me for sex with a straight face.

Tangent ahead

It used to disgust me, but now I'm apathetic. Surprised if anyone is loyal. Cheating is extremely common in part to easy access between men and women everywhere. Men and women both are likely to cheat if given the right chance to. Most men do not get as many chances as most women do. Your husband makes your friends tingle, he's super power? Your wife is hot, and she works with guys who are more powerful than you? You're getting cheated on eventually. Things will just happen. And there were no good old days where this wasn't true it just happened less in the same ways it does now because of more segregation of the genders. Still, if you get cheated on it is your fault, you are to blame. If you are female and you are not being the best wife ever, and your guy is a real catch good luck, because if he's a high value guy and he's around other women they are going to try to poach him. If you are male and your wife doesn't adore you, doesn't love you for all of your worth, and isn't jumping you every chance she can get? She's going to get propositioned anyway by a ton of guys and eventually someone is going to give her a chance. Things will happen, and she will think she wasn't that kind of person. It's a game and if you don't play to win then you are putting your fate in the hands of others. Life is raw, and it goes both ways.

Attractive Male Fucks - She chases you because you make her primal, women throw their bodies at you until someone makes you into a nice guy or you ever show any real weakness. Or avoid that and stay powerful until your 50s+ thanks to male privilege. Quite often married women will think nothing of getting you to fuck them if you've made them tingle for the first time in a while and they are ready for something to just happen.

Resource Male Bucks - You give her your time, your money, your support, and she takes it all while fucking the guys who actually turn her on, but she'll divorce you given the chance and take half of your net worth, and if you ever have any bad luck don't expect any loyalty or thanks for your years of being a resource whore. Having resources is nothing without actual attraction.

Sexy Female Love - Guys chase you because they want to fuck you, men throw their resources at you, you drown in a sea of men until you lose your looks. Once you lose your looks nothing will ever allow you regain the ability to draw male attention. Or say fuck it all, marry rich and powerful, get divorced, and use your paychack to do some sex tourism like all of the other celebrating divorcees. You know all of those women (Homely Female Maid) who find out their husband has been cheating on another woman? That's you. You are the other woman.

Homely Female Maid - Stay home and raise the kids while he fucks the just 18 year olds all over town while you don't get any younger. Eventually he'll upgrade to wife 2.0 when you get bitchy about it all, but who is the one who married the guy everyone wanted?

Decent human beings who rise up above these generalizations? Hahaha. People who try and don't know the rules of the game often get burned. People who know the rules of the game know not to be stupid, but it's easy to forget for everyone.

[–]AgentSmith27 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That outlook is a little too bleak. Its true loyalty is hard to come by, but its not non-existent. I'd say 20% of the people out there are good and loyal people. The odds of two random people being loyal to each other is considerably low, but I think a lot of people end up understanding that they should seek out other loyal people.

[–]busior 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A couple of times. Nothing seriously fucked up really - just typical I meet a girl, ignore her BS along the lines of 'I am not that kind of girl, you know', then a couple of shit tests and they are sucking me off, coitus and so on. Then they confess at some point that they have an ongoing relationship but of course it's typical beta bucks and either it's not sexual yet (because the guy bought that 'I am not that kind of girl BS') or they really limit themselves to standard sex, no oral and swallowing, while I introduce A2M to the girls.

[–]pjewa[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I've been a staunch believer in if I meet a girl somewhere who has a boyfriend (who isn't there), even if she's showing me interest, that I won't do anything. I just don't want to be "that guy."

But I'm starting to see this a little differently, as I've been on TRP for a month now. It's entirely possible these girls still feel whatever emotional/societal devotion to these boyfriends, but they just want a little bit of strange D. And if they are going to get it from someone, why not me?

I haven't acted on this yet, but it's possible that I will. Hence my posting of this discussion.

[–]rpkarma 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As long as you're not shitting where you eat, then yeah you're starting to get the right mindset dude. Our current culture means this is accepted, and only white knight bros will look down on you. You won't even feel guilty, as long as they're strangers.

[–]pjewa[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's honestly blowing my mind. I guess that's why they call it the Red Pill.

It's incredible how many girls do this without even batting an eye. And they are right - their boyfriend may never no, or will never know, and from their perspective the relationship is just fine.

If these girls are going to be doing it with someone, maybe I could be that guy.

I'm not in a relationship now, but eventually if I'm in one, this sort of stuff does make me a little weird. Looks like the best way to keep her around is to be AF and BB.

[–]pleasedontknowme30 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would actually like to hear stories where alpha guys have no problem fucking a girl who is married/taken or has a bf, and the guy actually ends up feeling bad about it (maybe the beta husband hurts himself, or is dying of cancer, or some fact comes to light AFTER the sex that made you regret the decision. I know military people are just people like everyone else. We hold them to a higher status because they put their lives on the line..despite whether they are actually good or bad character (lots of dumb fucks in the military). That being said, I always cringe at stories where someone is fucking a woman whose husband or bf is overseas fighting a war.

[–]bleh321 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Day gamed a girl on a train.

She gave number.

Tell her to come over and bring food/movies.

Bang ensued.

Then mentions her mother is coming down around from overseas for her marriage in 3 days time.

Tells me this is a secret between us and that even when I have a proper gf that we are to continue this secret.

Bang one more time and suddenly goes ghost on me after honeymoon. Oh well - didn't want to deal with a married woman. I legit had a nightmare of the guy trying to hunt me down LOL

[–]pjewa[S] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Then mentions her mother is coming down around from overseas for her marriage in 3 days time.

My mouth actually dropped open agape at this line.

I was about to say I can't believe a woman would fuck someone 3 days before her WEDDING, but now that I've taken TRP I think I CAN believe it.

They can get away with this stuff as long as no one ever knows. I wonder if it happens more than we even know.

[–]Iupvoteforknowledge 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You've obviously never read some of the male strippers AMA's on reddit.

[–]ilovemyself101 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you link one Iupvote? One of my best mates is a male stripper, hes more "reserved" in our respect but the stories he tells of people, bride, bridesmaids, mother in law, etc throwing them selves at him with numbers and "meetup times/places" has my JAW DROPPED.

[–]ilovemyself101 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

don't be too surprised, an old FB wanted to "meet-up" a few days before her wedding because she was getting cold feet. Told me to go over when there was no one at her house.. The experiences you get when you see and recognize this shit is just... mind blowing. It completly changes your perspective on EVERYTHING with relationships.

[–]pleasedontknowme30 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

people might make fun of beta males...but I bet it's those beta males who fly off the handle, get their gun, and kills the wife / fiance and her lover. Shit happens.

One depressing aspect of TRP that I am finding, is its a game. I get its a way of life, but along the lines of PUA, etc.. its a giant game. and when it is all said and done regarding dealing with someone who is in a relationship...it's simply fucking with peoples lives..despite whether they are beta or not. The "well she is a cheater..if she doesn't cheat with me, she will cheat with someone else" is just an excuse to get the dick wet. People talk about women hamstering and rationalizing...that right there is a perfect male rationalization.

[–]maderail 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole "women control the supply of sex; men control the supply of commitment"? Yeah, that still applies. The game goes on whether you want to "opt out" or not.

[–]I3luee 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have my +1 for the moral aspect that you present. Yes, your given scenario may happen, but as "maderail" says below me: it will happen with you or with someone else. TRP doesn't teach you how to rape women; it teaches you how to be a better male and it points out some of the major parts that help in getting women along the way.

Ultimately women have the choice; men can only work hard to be one of the ones she chooses.

Blaming her infidelity on your ability to have game is like saying: it's "Jack Daniel's" fault for making such a nice ad for their whiskey and that's why I can't stop drinking it.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I've had 3 attached girls so far.

They'd contact me and arrange coming to my house. BB would give them money for the cinema tickets which would get spent on a take away. I'd then send her home, totally full, and tell her to text me in a week.

I split up with my ex less than 3 months ago and have a pregnant girl coming over every week already.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A pregnant girl? What?

[–]Nieben 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A pregnant girl can't get pregnant because she already is pregnant.

You can raw dog it, assuming you're open to risking getting STD's.

Oh, and I hear they're quite frequently horny without end.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fucked up yo

[–]Nieben 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh, that's a matter of opinion.

I haven't done it, personally, but I might be open to it if she's sexy enough. Also depends on how far along she is.

[–]1raceAround126 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm banging a fiance right now. She told me it had to stop after bb proposed but if anything its gotten mote adventurous.

She calls me, I never call her. Sometimes I get the impression she's created a big excuse as to why she's "out of town" to the bb when she wants to come over and spend a dirty weekend with me. A few times I've messed up her plans on purpose by telling her on busy. It makes her far more hungry for a next time. She's booked a hotel on the coast this weekend for me and her to fuck in. I floated the idea of a threesome with another girl, since then its all she can talk about.

On the one hand I feel bad for bb. She admitted she won't do the nasty depraved shit we do with bb as she doesn't "feel she can". The worst part is the sex is great and she's expert at it, I bet he'd sell a kidney to have her do this stuff with him.

It started by merely me going to a club one night. I did t know she had a boyfriend until months later when she told me he proposed. That wad right when she got far more kinky. Anal and so forth.

My guess is that, when they are finally married, this will stop. Until then, happy for the no fuss easy sex.

[–]loin_fruit 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm currently fucking a fiance right now as well. Got her number when she was a vendor at a store I worked at two years ago, she was just taken at the time. Somehow my attitude and my games led to me getting my dick sucked a lot.

Eventually we would have beer and we would fuck. It would help her conscious out by doing so. Well she got attached and I'll admit I didn't have much going on for me at the time so I was getting a little attached to. She calls it off.

Couple months later she comes back to me and the same shit happens. Well third time comes around now and she still misses me. Except this time shes providing food for me and shes buying me shit and shes holding my hand in car rides and shes being more flirty and doing cuddly shit.

Well they're actually engaged now and weirdly enough we just fucked twice in the past couple of weeks. Which wouldn't have happened before.

While fucking her I pulled her hair, she tells me to cum on her ass. A bunch of shit that her boyfriend or nobody else does. She loves it, she loves how I tell her no when I don't want to do something. She loves the games and the mystery behind what I do.

They've been engaged for a bit over a year now. I don't know what's taking them so long to finally get married but my guess is that once they are this will stop too.

[–]pleasedontknowme30 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

jesus..both of those stories above make me sad. I get BF stuff...but engagements and marriages and knowingly doing this shit...makes me cringe. Especially when they reserve vanilla sex for their SO, yet porn star sex for you guys.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of 'Saving the Best' on therationalmale.com

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's probably cause their men aren't assertive enough to initiate porn star stuff

[–]loin_fruit 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or to put them in their spot when they need to be. Or that they kiss their ass always.

[–]phx-au 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd turned 30 and met a 20 yr old tiny asian nursing student. She wasn't a bad girl, was looking for the marriage / picket fence / babies deal. Claimed to have had one boyfriend before me, but he must have held master classes in sucking dick.

Had a slow start, I don't lie to people I see, so she knew I wasn't looking for anything down that whole marriage spectrum. I was busy with a hot bio science major, so took a bit of time for her to realise I wasn't going to play the usual game with her.

Ended up seeing her casually for around six months until she got a boyfriend. Happy facebook relationship that I could see, expensive dinners, jewellery. Text out of the blue a few months in wanting to catch up for coffee. Met up, fucked in my office a couple of times.

"So, what happened with your boy?"

"Oh I'm still seeing him.... we're fine..."

"Fucking me is better than fine."

"... we're saving it for marriage"

Guilt seems to go in waves. Was seeing her off and on for a while after that until I met my current LTR. She wants to see me more, but tries to frame it in a way that's disrespectful to my girl (who is ok with me seeing other people), but... I'm not seeing anyone who thinks they're getting one over her.

[–]ManowaR1488 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

New years Eve 2012. Grande Prairie, Alberta

I was well into my /r/seduction education, me and 4 friends(two couples) goto a nightclub in the next town over. I am the 5th wheel, but its fine because I have 4 wingmen/women.

Skipping the FR details, This really hot slut kept walking past me making me notice her, and there was always this skinny 18-19 year old kid following her around. After me and her had a couple silent eye contact conversations, she really drops the bomb and walks past me while holding this kids hand, and staring at me.

This immediately made me smile and chuckle at her, because I knew exactly what she was doing, and she knew that I knew. So we fast forward and she drops the kid and is with me and my friends back at our hotel. We have drinks and all that and then I take her to my room and we do the dirty.

After we were done and she is ready to leave, she calls that same beta orbiter kid from the club and makes up a bullshit story what happened, saying things like "I'm at a friends", "no that's not what happened", and best of all "Can you come pick me up at Western Budget Hotel?"

The kid obviously hamsters and picks her up while I'm laughing to myself while simultaneously feeling sorry for the poor friend zoned bastard.

I'm 25 now, but when I was 17 I was that kid doing the same thing, and now I felt I earned my right to be on the other side of this whole function.

[–]N3vertheless 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another Albertan, makes me happy to see my brothers on here.

[–]1theoctopuss 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I've been in this situation many times. I'll give you one example.

About a year ago, there was a friend I knew. I stayed on his couch a few nights, so we were pretty good friends. Unfortunately, he was a huge beta. Physically, he was about 5'7 and 150 pounds, a little over weight. He was a part time pot dealer as well, so he had extra spending money in college.

The only reason this guy had any girls interested in him was because of his little business venture. There was one girl in particular, we'll call her M. At first, there was no interest between me and M. I just happened to be there. She was also my friend's girlfriend, so I already saw her as off limits. There were also several other girls that I did this with around this time, but that's another story.

Eventually I get into an argument with friend. During this time, I started to get a little bit closer to M. She even ordered me a pair of expensive boxers, so she was quite attracted to me. Physically, I'm leagues away from M's boyfriend. 6', 180 lbs, and pretty boy looks.

So I stop hanging out with friend all together. This is where AFBB starts. M and I had several nights where she would ditch friend to come fuck me. We would fuck all night, several times. She said my dick is way bigger than her boyfriend's, which isn't surprising. For a good 3 months, M would suck my dick and then get picked up by friend. The entire time, she would actually spend his money on me, which was hilarious. This actually happened with every girl that friend would have come over, which is why probably why he started to dislike me.

At the same time, there was another guy in the house that had an extremely hot girlfriend, we'll call her K. As soon as I met K, I could see the desire. About a week later, I was banging her in the other guy's bed.

[–]pjewa[S] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the stories!

Do you not feel guilty about doing this, especially to your friends?

Or is it a "doesn't matter, had sex" mindset?

[–]1theoctopuss 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The AFBB only started after I ended the friendship.

[–]highstats 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Banging a friends girl is completely off limits to me. The ensuing drama could wreck everything. Bros before hoes my nigga

[–]1theoctopuss 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The situation played out much different. He made some threats against me, so I terminated the friendship.

[–]highstats 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd do the same then.

[–]pjewa[S] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely. I'll never do it. Especially not one of my best friends. If she ever indicated something like that to me I'd go to him an have a frank conversation.

[–]rpkarma 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Look, I get it and feel that way too. But if your friends are thirsty betas, they'll never stick to it if the sitch was reversed, so meh. I mean, I wouldn't do it anyway cause fuck drama, but I can get why a lot of guys do. Loyalty only matters to those who earn it, and only my brothers from other mothers have earned it.

[–]highstats 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If my friends are thirsty betas, they wouldn't have a fucking chance with my girl though. The only people that'd have a chance with my girls are the men that are more alpha then me. Usually these type of alpha men follow bro code. If you are so desperate to get laid that you fuck your fellow alphamales women, you're not that alpha to begin with.

It's a giant paradox

[–]chimpichanga 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so we were pretty good friends.

M would suck my dick and then get picked up by friend. The entire time, she would actually spend his money on me, which was hilarious.

wat

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a bro. Pays women to sleep with him.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]1theoctopuss 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it really that confusing? He was chubby.

[–]CaballeroRojo 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. It's not my fault their boyfriends decided to be a boyfriend in the first place (it's almost like being married expect she doesn't clean, cook or wash for you) and it is neither my fault their boyfriends don't know how to keep them coming back for more instead of going out looking for better dick. Because chicks will only cheat with someone with higher value than their LTR.

I don't have any stories really. Just normal "I have a BF" shit testing. The closes I've been to feeling guilty was fuck in my best friend ex only a couple days after they broke up. In my defense he gave me permission lol I think he thought it would never happen since he, until this day, thinks she's the one who got away hahaha I never told him I actually did it. He doesn't need to know. I took time out of my life to teach him how to be more manly so yeah I paid off my moral debt lol we were only 18 or so. I gave that batch blow job lessons in my old beat up Altima '93. You could tell she craved alpha dick. She confessed the reason she dumped him was his vanilla ways. Dude was average looking and at 18 was making 40k and driving a brand new Camaro but apparently he was (is? Married a butt-ugly woman) unable to give good dick.

[–]retsage 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Many times. Until I found TRP, I didn't realize how or why.

Almost every longterm relationship I've had started with already taken girls who were looking to be fucked by someone they perceived to be a player.

Unfortunately, like a little bitch, I would start to quickly emotionally invest, developing oneitis, and then being shocked when they either chose their boyfriends over me or we ended up in a disastrous relationship where they treated me with no respect.

Problem? I go from fun, mysterious, and ridiculously confident, to a sappy, emotionally available bitch. Trp helped me realize my pattern in the last week or so.

Never again.

[–]loin_fruit 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm right there with you. There's another post about how you should always have more than one plate spinning. When having two, you aren't getting oneitis, you end up focusing on having fun and fucking. But when you have only one your mind tells you to like the girl more than you should and that she is "the one".

Currently I am right there with a plate. The two other plates dropped out of spinning and now I'm left with one and she has a boyfriend.

Oneitis is hitting.

[–]retsage 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just remember: as soon as she discovers, it's over. Best bet, be more distant to avoid developing feelings.

[–]AlmostRP 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

21 year old on her birthday. Her boyfriend stayed home because he had to work. We had sex in their spare bedroom while he slept.

Don't let a girl you want to keep go out by herself to "get fucked up with friends and have a good time." That means she's going out to flirt and her friends will encourage it.

[–]pleasedontknowme30 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup...GNO's. Has caused me more stress/panic then I care to share.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

GNO = 'I want attention from men other than you.'

[–]AlmostRP 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I guess it depends. My wife went to see that stars in her eyes movie with a group of her friends, and then last weekend went to dinner with a few. I told her I wanted to do my own thing that night and she called up her friends. None of her friends are or ever were sluts, so I don't mind them doing things as a group.

[–]kempff 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, my most recent ex saw how I ordered her son around (my tutoring student, age 10 at the time), and apparently she had never seen a real man in action. Nor had the boy made so much academic progress in so short a time, even while on his focus pills.

I stupidly broke my own policy of one-person-one-relationship and allowed something to get started between us, and within a year the fit hit the shan and she was openly pulling stunts with the other men in our church bible study, in particular with a recovering alkie who had a tendency to whip out his guitar to entertain the ladies after dinner.

As if I needed to know why she was twice divorced.

Which I didn't stand for, I dumped her live over the phone, ignored her dozen back-to-back voicemails the next morning; she fired me saying the boy really needs to be more in touch with his father, whom she had months earlier described as an abusive narcissist with an immigrant wife that resents the boy's existence.

I deliberately stuck with the bible study just to stick it to her good; I waited until the topic cycle ended and I disappeared into thin air over Easter.

I almost went full Harper Valley PTA on that group, but I figured that what happened to me, was pretty much what was always happening among them.

That's the short version.

[–]maderail 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do continue with the longer version. That sounds entertaining as fuck.

[–]kempff 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Entertaining? Then I am being downvoted for not actually riding that old saddle.

This whole story coincided with my coming to RedPill; I had independently discovered the principles in a piecemeal way, but this was the shove I needed over the cliff edge.

The bible study session that followed the breakup conversation/voicemail siege, she literally ran and hid in one of the bedrooms of the house we were meeting in, pretending to talk with one of the teenage sons of the hostess. I knew something was up and I looked forward to the fallout. We talked over the phone later that week; her excuse for acting like a child was she was emotionally distraught over what I did to her, she tried to extort "closure" from me, I laughed her off and reminded her we're not in middle school.

The following session when we were winding down to go home Mr Limpwrist whipped out his Fender and blatantly played over me while I was talking to her and another lady, and this blatant disrespect was the sign that she had been badmouthing behind my back me to the rest of the group and they had taken her side and closed ranks against me.

When it was time for me to go she made a big show of escorting me to the door as if nothing happened or as if she wanted to look like the Bigger Person, and gave me a nearly-full-body-hug in the foyer and made some Duck Dynasty comment about my beard which I had been growing out. I didn't even care to craft a witty rejoinder.

The group invited me for Easter barbecue; I didn't respond.

[–]Junkis 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just for one semester in college. She had a boyfriend back home she "knew she would spend the rest of her life with". I didn't want to date this girl so I just told her not to talk about her boyfriend cuz it was boring.

This girl was a different pickup because I just didn't spit game at her, she seemed so closed to any interaction and was like 8-9/10. I'll admit I was intimidated. I was sitting next to her on a couch while all these other conversations are going on so I did the polite thing. All of a sudden she spent the night in my bed. Didn't bang her and then she came right back the next night and it was the best FWB experience ever. This girl would just text me "ready to fuck tonight?". Shit was awesome.

Edit extra story she was the NBA lockout for halloween whatever year that was at my frats party... totally chained her up with her costume. She was into that shit.

[–]1NV0K3R 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a friend that has two sisters. One of them is super hot, skinny, blonde, etc, the other one is more comely, bigger breasts, more pear shaped. The super hot one, my group of friends and I thought, was probably incredibly promiscuous, while the other girl was the epitome of innocent good girl.

Oh how wrong we were.

The blonde one is now getting married to her long time boyfriend out of like 2 or 3. The other one...well that's where the story begins.

I've always known she had some sort of crush on me, but I was never really interested, because I assumed I would have to date her and see her parents and all that nonsense. Well a few years pass and she ends up meeting some chump and they date for a another few years.

She comes back to town one summer to take classes at our local university, I can't really remember how it all started exactly, but in the end we were hanging out a lot just us two. I decided why the fuck not, lets see if she'll go for it.

Oh, she went for it.

The first night I even attempted to get physical we fucked. The second night was a Friday and I was already in the mind set of "welp I hit it once, lets go find something new" so I got drunk downtown. All the while she was telling me to come over. Now remember, she's only had one other guy, seen only one other penis, had only one other boyfriend. It's getting to be like 2:30-3am when I finally text her back "I'll come over but you have to answer the door naked."

She answered the door naked. She also made the most noise out of any girl I have ever had sex with.

We fuck anytime she comes back into town. As far as I know she's still with the guy and he buys her plane tickets and jewelry and goes skiing and shit with her. Yup.

[–]1Jaereth 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had sex with a co-worker one time who was in a committed relationship. I did it once and that was that. Kinda made me think though. That was back in my blue-pill days so I was deep in the scarcity mentality and wouldn't pass up pussy for next to anything.

Now i'll just typically flirt and flirt and flirt, pass every shit test with flying colors, but never initiate the going somewhere and actually fucking part. Confuses the living fuck out of most women, although a few older ones at bars have laughed at me for doing this, like they knew what I was up to.

I'm in a relationship, but no hurt in building crazy attraction all around town. Keeps my abundance mentality up and if I ever need to walk, i'll still be pretty set.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The guys in the IRC channel have heard this story before:

Before redpill was prominent on the internet and when I was a very young man I fell into the situation once. I was at a college football game out of town, it was an away game that I won tickets and travel for over the radio. I had been flirting with lots of girls online, thinking nothing of it and realized one of them was in the town that the game took me into. I went to the town and met the girl and didn't watch the game. We skipped out during the first quarter and hit the beach. I spent the day riding around in her car, drinking and groping, then we banged in the hotel room. In those days girls were all on yahoo messenger and seemed eager to show me their tits and stuff, so it was just a hobby I thought nothing of, I was much cooler on the internet than I had ever been in person.

It turned out she lived with a man who collected money off a medical settlement and paid all of her expenses. She liked me a lot from our internet conversations. (We first met when I pretend raped her in a video game called Second Life). I knew she wasn't fucking him because I took her virginity that day, it was probably only the third time I had been with a woman myself. I went home and we continued to be close over the internet. One day the man she lived with was sick of footing the bill and tried to get grabby with her so she moved out. What she didn't understand was that the car she took was in his name and he was paying for it, so the cops eventually took it back from her. She bounced from state to state by collecting favors from the men she met and became a cam whore, then later got into making porn. Years later, after she washed out of the porn industry (nobody was willing to book her any longer) she got back in touch with me and wanted me to take care of her. I refused and she threw a tantrum and called me a child for not manning up and being her replacement daddy. The tantrum did a good amount of damage to my internet shenanigans and I lost my place in a lot of the circles I enjoyed.

Many men would give me high 5's for bagging a porn star, but I assure you it is nothing special. That woman was 21 different flavors of crazy. But it was a beta bucks situation for the poor dude that she was living with and she tried to put me into it next. I can only assume that between me and that other dude there were several others as well.

If I had to be honest with you' I've probably been the beta bucks of the situation with a few other girls too.

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[–]pleasedontknowme30 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Anyway, we were at a party. I have a few drinks and others have mostly left the party. I put the moves on this girl. She put several barriers "I have a boyfriend", "We're getting married", "I'm leaving town soon".

Ok, this is where I find it interesting. Nobody is off limits, even if they put up the signs up front they aren't interesting. Clearly "We are getting married" is a sign she wasn't up for it. Now I completely get you broke her, and she caved..but is that what game is all about...chipping away at someone's forcefield until it completely gives? If I take a hammer to a 5ft thick wall...I won't break it with a few strikes...or hell a 100 strikes. But after 1000 strikes, I might see the sunlight in the hole poking back at me. EVERYONE is going to cave after enough pressure...but my question is more about "why" continue striking if you know that wall is not only thick, but someone else (a SO) is holding that wall up? At what point do you say "eh, this won't be worth it, and I have my choice of anyone else in this room". Just curious.

[–]highgrav 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it's a sexy, sexy wall.

[–]CSMastermind 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the time. It teaches you to really distrust women. Some examples:

Taiwanese masters student who I'll call Sara. I go through the normal game with her, she's clearly dtf, we end up back at her place and start getting into it. My hand is in her pants, we're making out and she stops me and says, "You should know I'm married". Obviously I give her the wtf look and she sees this and says, "and I have two cats". As if having two cats was clearly the same as having a husband. She goes on to explain that it's okay because he's still in Taiwan, other side of the world, so not a big deal if we fuck. I actually got kind of mad and left. The next day she texted me apologizing and saying that sometimes her English isn't very good. I ended up deciding that I didn't care and we've hooked up 7 times since. She's back in Taiwan with her husband for the summer right now, doubt she's told him.

Hooking up with Sara lead to a similar situation with a different girl. Sara had never been to an American sporting event and wanted to go, so we made plans. She asked if she could bring a friend and I said okay. Her "friend" was a Chinese PhD student, I'll call her Jessica. Jessica flirted with my throughout the game and Sara was pissed (she already didn't like her very much because she's Chinese) afterwards I suggested we get drinks but Sara said to just take her home. I did then I went out with Jessica. We actually ran into one of my ex's at the bar and she was hating on Jessica as well. Afterwards we went back to my place and hooked up. I continued having sex with her on and off for the next two months until one day she asked me to help her mail a package. I say sure, we go to the post office and I help her box up these DVDs and before I close the box she slips a card inside. I go to look at it and she freaks out. "That's private". And I'm like ... okay that's weird. So I show her where to write the address and I note some guys name as the recipient. So I'm putting it together and I look at her and say, "Do you have a boyfriend?" I was already suspicious because she had said things like, "All women cheat" to me before. So when I call her out she gets nervous. And I think it's funny because I obviously just had sex with her, and then helped her send a care package to her boyfriend. Anyway I remember the dude's name and Facebook him afterwards. Here's the fucking kicker: He goes to Harvard. The dude is straight up in Harvard Medical School and his girlfriend is banging me.

And yeah, tons of others. Those two always got to me in particular though. Sara because she equated having a husband to having a cat and Jessica because her boyfriend is studying to be a doctor at Harvard and she's cheating on him. Maybe because they're asian they're just more blatant about cheating?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just broke up with a chick and after reading this thread I'm sure she was cheating. I'm swearing off relationships for now lol. It seems most women cheat, this is a tough pill to swallow

[–]everyone_wins 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure if there were "beta bucks" involved, but I've definitely been the alpha that she wanted for sex while she allowed more beta men to orbit and court her in their pathetic little ways.

This has happened to me several times since beautiful women almost always have a plethora of beta orbiters willing to give them anything they want.

I have more morals than to fuck a married woman though. Separated is fine, but if they're still living together I won't get involved.

[–]ilovemyself101 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Had this a couple of times to be honest. But ill start with the most recent.

  • Met a girl who was travelling through the city with her boyfriend, they were both staying at the same hostel and I have a friend there that I see quite regularly and so later on in the night. I pull her back to my house not far for a couple of hours and bed her while her boyfriend is back at the hostel. Cold.

  • Also a girl lets call S, now S was a very beautiful girl with a great body, she should would show me the guys that are taking her out on dates to restaurants and romantic nights, they were attractive physically, own their own homes but have 0 game. They were all too needy and she told me that she usually goes on 3 dates before she would consider having sex with them. I didn't even take her on a date.

  • Another girl I met, had a boyfriend back home in Germany. She "didn't normally do this" but told me she "needed to break loose and have fun" I asked her if she would tell her boyfriend. He "doesn't need to know"

  • Finally the Russian girl, we went back to her place where her wall was covered in photos of her and her BF, she grabbed some stuff quickly before coming to mine...

These the most recent AFBF of mine.

Im reading all the replies to this thread and laughing my ass off! Keep the good work going lads!

[–]Nieben 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucked a girl my friend was fucking.

She was just that kind of girl, though.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wild 23 year old Asian party girl, loved to do the whole drinking/clubbing thing. Met her through friends of friends. Turns out she was in a 4-year relationship with a mechanical engineer, guy was your stereotypical Chinese nerd who stayed at home playing online games while his girl went out.

I got to talking to her, found out she was unhappy in her relationship, but because of a super shitty unstable upbringing she couldn't leave him because he brought stability. She claimed she was never unfaithful to him (I didn't believe this for a second). She had a smoking tight body, but I didn't really make much of an effort for her. Seemed like way too much trouble/crazy.

Fast-forward to a Christmas party that we were both at. Boyfriend was at home or at work or some shit. Drinks were poured, social games were played, everyone was having a good time. I duck away to the washroom to take a piss, she's already in there. She comes out and I catch her for some one-on-one conversation. She's super-flirty, all kinds of IOI's. I'm not stupid. I tell her to meet me in the spare bedroom once a few people have left.

Fast forward an hour and I'm chilling in the bedroom because I need to sober up before driving home. Chick shows up, I know exactly why she's there, so I immediately initiate by locking the door and pressing her body against the wall. Was a good night.

She's still with the mech engie, as far as I know.

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